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I have a question about Possible bigfoot sounds and wolves. Have their been any reports of Wolf packs starting to howl when a possible bigfoot sound is heard?

The reason I ask is that I heard something strange last week. I was at Patricia Lake, which is a few miles north of Jasper, in Jasper National Park, Alberta, Canada.

I was staying in a cabin (part of a rental group of cabins on the south shore of the lake). It was just after dawn. I got up to go outside and have a walk. The air was cold and still, and the silence was pervasive. I walked down to the lake (about 80 feet away) and as I walked I heard something weird. It was distant, coming from the mountains north of the lake and a bit to the west. If I had to guess a range, I'd guess two miles. It's hard to describe. It was sort of a roaring howl. It lasted a long time, about 20 seconds, changing in volume a bit, up and down, then fading out. I'd previously played a few recordings from this site, and to be honest when I heard this, it took me a couple of seconds to click that it sounded a little like one (I was not thinking "bigfoot" at the time) and I stopped in my tracks to listen. It sounded a little like some one or two recordings I recall (No idea which; haven't listened to compare yet and I wasn't paying that much attention when I first played them). When I say a little, it was certainly no match. More on that later.

After this call, the silence returned. Silence is not unusual there, so that means nothing. I sat down to listen. About two seconds passed, when a sound started up again. Or, I thought it had, at first. But this time, it was different. It was wolves. I've heard recordings of wolves, but to hear them in the wild is quite different, and something I highly recommend. The direction was similar but the angle seemed a little off, and a little closer too. Several wolves were involved, and this carreyed on for a few seconds, diminished, and then resumed. Then, silence returned, and nothing more happened even though I kept an ear out all day.

Could the first sound be wolves too? I don't know. I have heard recordings of wolf sounds (that's how I recognized the second noise so easily) but the first one wasn't like wolf sounds I'd heard. Has anyone ever heard of wolves sounding off in "reposnse" to a bigfoot howl? Or for that matter, the howl of any other creature?

BTW, hearing a wolf pack in person was so different from hearing recordings. I'll always treasure that experiance, but I mention this regarding Bigfoot recordings; I suspect that they, like wolf recordings and coyote recordings I've heard (I hear Coyotes almost nightly where I live) are poor in comparison to the real thing. Also, I ought to mention that my hearing is odd; I'm in the process of recovering it after a two year bout of deafness. I can hear again (about 70% of normal), BUT, I have tinnitus (a constant ringing in my hears) and tonal loss in some high ranges (but not others). So, if on the off chance I did witness something last week, I'm afraid I'm a lousy witness.

The cabins are called the Patricia Lake Bungalows (there are about 30 cabins there). It's the only thing around Patricia lake, but the area isn't total wilderness. There is the town of Jasper just a few miles south, and also another resort at Pyramid Lake a few miles to the east. As far as I know, this is NOT prime BF country.

Any insights, guesses, or flames? As for the latte,r I'm fairly new to this board and have seen the responses to newbies with "claims", so I'm expecting skepticisms etc. and won't be offended. All I can say is this wasn't a hoax by me: I heard whatever it was, as I described it, and I'm at least 99% certain on the wolves. It is, I suppose, possible that that someone may have been "call blasting" for research or hoax purposes, but it didn't sound that way to me. It's also very possible that the first sound has some far more conventional explanation than a BF, and if so I'd love to know what.

So, I am really curious if any of the "call Blasters" here were doing there thing at Patricia Lake last week? Also, has any "call Blaster" ever evoked a reply from Wolves?

Thanks!

Thank's for posting your experience ArizonaTJ. I am a reseacher in Alberta and I am not aware of anyone call blasting in the area recently.

Actually, Jasper is a prime sasquatch area.

http://www.freewebs.com/casr/alberta.htm

scroll down to Jasper for some reports

Wolves do vocalize at other sounds. The wolves here go nuts when they hear an ambulance siren. It doesn't take much to set them off. lol

I've heard the wolves howl here in the yard (calling me home) while I was out in the woods and the sound is much different than being here in the yard hearing them.

Wasn't there some recordings from Canada posted on the SRI site a couple of years back of possible BFs but it turned out to be of wolves I believe??? Maybe you can check them out and rule out that it was not wolves.

Don't know about the blasters, but bigfoot call recordings frequently have coyote/canid followup from what I've heard. Also, an echoing call from a squatch could result
in a delayed response from canids. I would say it is entirely possible. I have done wolf calls myself in Canada and gotten responses from wolfpacks so they will respond to
things that are close but not authentic. Sounds like quite a treat you had.

A big THANK YOU to ya'll.

Thanks for the links on Jasper... I'd been discussing the area with someone before my trip, and had mis-set the BF sightings layer on google earth, so saw nothing. My bad. There indeed have been some in the area. Quite a few!

I have been listening to purported BF recordings, and I flat out cannot come up with a good match to what I heard. The BF "howls" seem to be warbling and shorter. What I heard was two long (maybe seven seconds or so) vocalizations, sort of like a meld between a howler monkey and.. I don't know what. But, one long, deep, loud, multi tonal howl (roar?), that I do not personally believe a human vocal tract could manage. In this case, it was not massively dissimilar to the wolf vocalizations I heard seconds later. If you mixed a wolf howl with a elephant's trumpet, you wouldn't be far off what I heard. (and yes, I know that sounds nuts).

I said in my first post that I thought I'd heard a similar BF recording in the past, but I'm now thinking I was mistaken. The one I had in mind was, I think, the klammath one, but it's not what I recall, and it's not a match.

Whatever it was, hearing it, and the wolf calls that followed, in the wild, was an experience I will always treasure.

A Follow up:
I've now listened to a slew of BF recordings, plus a host of owl, coyote, and wolf recordings, and nothing is a good fit for the first sound I heard. I have no clue what the heck it was, but at this point I'm highly doubtful it was a BF. Sorry for any false alarm here.

On a lighter note, to other news of my trip: I do have crystal clear photos of a hairy biped on Mount St. Helens. It's no blobsquatch!: perfect clear photos, and it's definitely standing on two legs. It's clearly about seven inches tall (there's a trail sign for size reference), and has a bushy tail. It's eating a pine cone. I'm absolutely sure it's not a man in a squirrel suit, too. I did, also, get a photo of a bigfoot in the area. It's huge, and made of pine or some other soft wood. (there's a Bigfoot-themed tourist pull-in on the way to the observatory).

Thank's for the follow ups ArizonaTJ.

Bigfoot "made of pine or some other soft wood"....explains how they seem to be able to just vanish in the trees...LOL