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Bobby Orangeboom
Hi Guys & Girls, just wondered what people's way of thinking is behind Rock Pile's that are alleged to sometimes be made by the Big Guy & Friends..I remember reading abotu a Guy named Glen Thomas who viewed a Family of BF digging for Ground Squirrels in OR back in teh 70's ( or 60's ) that left Rock Piles after their little Feast..

I've also read about other Rock Pile finds that have been attributed to BF & wondered if anyone had any experience of their own with them ??

Could they be used as Markers for other BF ( as some suggest actual Footprints are ) ??

I also found this link regarding the East Coast which make s a little interesting reading & it even mentiones the possibility of the Big Guy too..wink.gif

http://rockpiles.blogspot.com/2006_08_27_archive.html

Thanks in advance for any info.. thumbup.gif
CrimsonGoblin
I place rock piles in with tree breaks. Until somebody documents a sasquatch doing the activity they are pretty much meaningless. I have a case involving a hunter who stumbled across a large hole dug out of the rock. The rocks were claimed to have been stacked on top of each other and being much larger than anything a human could lift. But as for little piles of rocks I would say human.
Fullybird
In certain areas of the country, a rockpile in the woods could have a simple explaination. The area could have been cleared of trees and rocks removed for the ground to be used for farming, say, over a hundred years ago or more. The settlers consolidated the rocks in piles aside from the farming plots. Once that area was abandoned for farming, the forest reclaimed it and it became overgrown. No longer showing any evidence of it once being farmland, other than the rock piles in the woods.
AlbertaSasquatch
That's crazy, I was just thinking about this last night when I was reading the report mentioned above, anyways it was believed that they were after rock rabbits(pikas). So I was thinking about if someone was able to ask some of the rangers that work in the national parks if they ever stumble upon these sorts of holes and depressions and rock stacks around pika and marmot habitats. Just a thought.
bigfootnis
I actually did a little field work last week. I did discovery a pile of tree branches with two large brances stacked up against a tree. The stacked up sticks and brances would have made a perfect blind. The site was about 200 to 300 yards up a hill from a lake. Just good old imagination and speculation. The most simplist explanatioin would have been boyscouts since this was close to a local boy scout camp. Might be a good place to put a camara trap.
Redwolf
Scouts are taught to make rock piles and markers for trails.
nightscream
Yeah I think that this has been discussed before. It is thought that it is pretty common for humans to do this. I have heard of hikers doing it to mark where they have been etc. It could be the remnants of where someone made camp and made a fire.
AlbertaSasquatch
What if the rocks are much to large for a human to move and also in a remote place where the boyscouts don't go? scratchhead.gif
RedRatSnake
Hi

There are many threads on the rock topic in general, I know the last time i got into one it was about using the rock pile as a food source, A few members had some ideas that BF is using the rocks as places for rodents and reptiles to live in and be a food source, Lots of Speculation, Tons of ideas

Peace
Tim smile.gif
Bobby Orangeboom
QUOTE(CrimsonGoblin @ Oct 1 2008, 12:37 PM) *
I place rock piles in with tree breaks. Until somebody documents a sasquatch doing the activity they are pretty much meaningless. I have a case involving a hunter who stumbled across a large hole dug out of the rock. The rocks were claimed to have been stacked on top of each other and being much larger than anything a human could lift. But as for little piles of rocks I would say human.


Somebody did, see the OP & that's part of the reason why i was wondering about if anyone had any other BF related info..
CrimsonGoblin
Sorry Bobby Orangeboom, I was unaware that documented proof exists of a sasquatch stacking or piling rocks. Please direct me to the documentation. I assume photos and possibly video are available for scrutiny.

Thank's
Bobby Orangeboom
QUOTE(CrimsonGoblin @ Oct 1 2008, 10:18 PM) *
Sorry Bobby Orangeboom, I was unaware that documented proof exists of a sasquatch stacking or piling rocks. Please direct me to the documentation. I assume photos and possibly video are available for scrutiny.

Thank's


Well it's not documented proof, it was a " Sighting Report " of BF's stacking Rocks whilst searching for Rock Rabbits/Ground Squirrels back in the 60's or 70's & i read it in John Bindernagle's Book & have seen varuious References to Rock Piles being attributed to BF over the years..

I'll post the link to the Report & possibly Pics ( i doubt Video though, 60's or 70's ) a little bit later when i have some time to look for it..wink.gif
AlbertaSasquatch
There are no pics or video. John Green documented the case as did numerous others such as Dahinden, but it was all based on human observation. So it is only anecdotal evidence. Someone claimed to see them digging up and stacking the rocks and eating rodents, presumed to be pikas. I lied though, there is a picture of John Green's son standing in one of the holes and I think there is another picture of just the holes. IMHO I could see a Sasquatch possibly doing this but until there is actual evidence, who knows. scratchhead.gif
CrimsonGoblin
I am familiar with the reports. I was just being an ass.

It's the small decorative rock piles that are often found, which I am skeptical of. Just like noises in the woods at night and tree breaks. Unless there is multiple, credible witness to the activity taking place, they are just speculation.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
AlbertaSasquatch
Have to totally agree with you Crims! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
Bobby Orangeboom
QUOTE(AlbertaSasquatch @ Oct 1 2008, 10:39 PM) *
Have to totally agree with you Crims! new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif


& i agree with you too Crims, however i was just " trying " to find out people's experiences with them & maybe try to establish if " maybe " within this thread, we could get any informative information on anyone's experiences that DO " possibly " BF tie with them..wink.gif

No biggie, just having testing the water Crims..wink.gif
art bowshier
Sometimes old property markers or claims were marked with stone cairns. Places were fences would be difficult. I have seen stone mile markers in the woods were roads once were and are no longer there.
vilnoori
What deliberate stone piles do is they indicate that something with thumbs made it, for whatever reason (I think playfulness is as good a reason as any). If it is occurring somewhere that is remote or not easily accessible by people, such as a mountain top or the middle of a creek far from a path (both places that people are not likely to stop and play) then you have to wonder how it got there, and who made it. If it is made of rocks that are not easily moved about by people then you have to wonder about whether there is some deep significance to finding something like that, such as could it have been done by people communally for a religious reason or to mark a significant event? Or was it done by some unknown creature that has thumbs and the strength, will and ability to do it?

Of course you need to eliminate the possibility of humans making them before you say it could be sasquatch! Does it have to be stated, even?
nightscream
The thing is, with things like rock piles, is that they are too easily dismissable as being caused by other circumstances. Their discussion should only go so far as being a tool in the field. But as any type of evidence or for certainty attributing them to bf will never happen.
vilnoori
The ones I found this last weekend were in the middle of a creek on a flat rock, there were two of them next to each other. The first was a round rock surrounded by small round rocks, and right next to it was a pile of about 6 or 7 flat pancake-like stones piled straight up. No way could it be chance or an animal, either human or bf.
CrimsonGoblin
Vilnoori, if the rock piles you found were not created by "chance or an animal, either human or bf" then how did they get there??
EastonGarden
QUOTE(vilnoori @ Oct 3 2008, 12:36 PM) *
The ones I found this last weekend were in the middle of a creek on a flat rock, there were two of them next to each other. The first was a round rock surrounded by small round rocks, and right next to it was a pile of about 6 or 7 flat pancake-like stones piled straight up. No way could it be chance or an animal, either human or bf.


I understand what you mean, it's an either/or statement--you just forgot the "it was" part of the sentence. Although since we can't prove there is any such thing as a bigfoot, I would leave the "bf" part out of it.

Anyway. if you were there, chances are someone else was too.

There are 301 million people in this country, odds are good that if you can access it, other people can too---there are virtually no areas of the U.S. that people have not been, whether it be to explore, exploit or otherwise. It's just that as individuals our concept of the free movements of other individuals, i.e. not large groups of population, is skewed. It's the variable that we can't account for, and is rarely borne out by statistics.
vilnoori
Yeah, except that this was an adults-only private property. AND I was hearing weird tuneless child-like singing sounds coming from downstream. And there were some odd tree and branch breaks, AND there were some very large and fresh footprints in the mud. About size 17. It sort of began to make more sense that these were BF creations than people. But hey, I'm not sure, can anyone, unless they see a BF building one?
RB
QUOTE(AlbertaSasquatch @ Oct 1 2008, 07:34 PM) *
There are no pics or video. John Green documented the case as did numerous others such as Dahinden, but it was all based on human observation. So it is only anecdotal evidence. Someone claimed to see them digging up and stacking the rocks and eating rodents, presumed to be pikas. I lied though, there is a picture of John Green's son standing in one of the holes and I think there is another picture of just the holes. IMHO I could see a Sasquatch possibly doing this but until there is actual evidence, who knows. scratchhead.gif


Yeah... my thoughts exactly... rock piles may be used for some sort of "trap"...

Rodent sets up housekeeping... has a bunch of yummy babies...

Un-stack... munch... burp... re-stack...

Rinse and repeat...
Drew
A couple of likely explanations. I think the first two are pretty reasonable

http://www.rock-on-rock-on.com/cairns.html

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The most basic cairns are often a single stack of rocks intended to mark a path, a territory, or a specific site. The intent is utility and meaning, rather than art. Those who place them are thinking of those who will come after. Those who find and follow them are trusting travelers who went before. Many experienced hikers fondly call them "trail ducks" when the top rock is larger and points the way at a turn. In Hawai'i such a cairn is referred to as an ahu.

Acadia National Park has an extensive system of cairns and rules about their construction.


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Simple cairns and similar assemblages have recently been adopted by the Deep Ecology movement. Stacked or balanced, these offer places and moments for reflection at spiritual-environmental retreats such as Earth Sanctuary center on Whidbey Island, Washington. Visitors to the lush grounds will find the paths punctuated with what its founder describes as "balanced stones designed to stand for a long time without falling," as well as contemporary megaliths and stone circles. A recent guest installation, however, entitled "Sticks and Stones", emphasized the reciprocal trend of impermanence and complex flux.

RB
Nice of them skinny humans to make them squirrel traps for Sas... huh?
bipedalist
QUOTE(RB @ Dec 12 2008, 01:01 AM) *
Yeah... my thoughts exactly... rock piles may be used for some sort of "trap"...

Rodent sets up housekeeping... has a bunch of yummy babies...

Un-stack... munch... burp... re-stack...

Rinse and repeat...



Yep, just like the ronco rock-a-matic! scratchhead.gif

QUOTE(CrimsonGoblin @ Oct 3 2008, 11:41 AM) *
Vilnoori, if the rock piles you found were not created by "chance or an animal, either human or bf" then how did they get there??



Flooding events in steep mtn streams can pancake stack flat rocks in odd assemblages, were these perfectly balanced in a symmetrical way or
was there randomness to the flap jack stack?
Dudlow
QUOTE(vilnoori @ Oct 4 2008, 01:25 AM) *
... hearing weird tuneless child-like singing sounds coming from downstream... odd tree and branch breaks... some very large and fresh footprints in the mud. About size 17.


cool.gif Along with the possible rock stacking in the creek, 'vilnoori', these are interesting and encouraging indications. Is this anywhere near the flats of the Fraser or farther out by Aldergrove; or off HWY#99 near Squamish, by any chance? Just curious. Thanks.
Dudlow
julio12
Has anyone found rock stacks like these before.I have more I just have not down loaded them from my camera yet.
AlbertaSasquatch
Just a quick question Julio, how come the picture on the left shows one lone rock on the big one but the picture on the right shows the same lone rock on the rock pile? Just wondering is all.
boogerbottom
QUOTE(Fullybird @ Oct 1 2008, 01:28 PM) *
In certain areas of the country, a rockpile in the woods could have a simple explaination. The area could have been cleared of trees and rocks removed for the ground to be used for farming, say, over a hundred years ago or more. The settlers consolidated the rocks in piles aside from the farming plots. Once that area was abandoned for farming, the forest reclaimed it and it became overgrown. No longer showing any evidence of it once being farmland, other than the rock piles in the woods.



Wow did anyone see that? Some of ya'll are gonna get hit if your not careful and dunk the next time the truth comes flyibg by. Some of these same posters have debated this exact topic to some extent in several other places on this forum. I think red ratty or something like that is the only one that admitted it. But the one thing that is a constant in all these threads is that, and I have a read a load of these, is that the truth or the most plausible explanation is alway posted somewhere in the thread and everyone dunks down and lets it fly over their heads. The friends of BF around some of these threads are experts at either totaling ignoring any sort of common sense suggestions or even worse start harassing the only individual on the thread thinking logically.

I am not arguing about thumbs, and ground squirrels and all that. But I will state that 99.99% of rock piles found are the result of human actions. There is are entire archeoligical libraries of the available around the country and on the internet that offer documented (that means evidence exists in some 'real' form or another like an authenticated diary from DeSoto's trek into North America or some ancient village excavations yeilding the sort of clues and finds that make it possible for someone inclined to evaluate the evidence and form a theory in his analysis that has a ring of truth to it.

Instead of ignoring evidence and shying away from logical thinking all together, the bf believers should embrace it and accept it's value in finding this creature. Instead of sitting at your computer desk arguing with another BF lover over how big a rock they can lift, or propped up at your monitor thinking about your next sarcastic remark or cute little reply. Why not get out and try some analytical thinking of your own or try and find some of this "reported evidence of your own to straighten everyone out on here. Can a new member start a thread? Would I get in trouble for pointing out really logical answers to some of the extreme claims and ridiculous conclusion are made on this sight. Some BF believers do I think have an almost supernatural ability to do things like call up BF to eat corn out of feeders, look at blurry photos and see dozens of BF staring right back or walk up on BF nests and stick formations everytime they walk into the woods. They also have supernatural radar built in to aviid truth and logic as well.

If you got 1000's of years of hard evidence of man's interaction and manipulation of stone and stone formations. Why suddenly is it now a BF piling up rocks, what does it take to make one ignore all aspects of scientific data and study, and then even post it on what is called a science based forum with a slant that supposed to be rooted in some facts? Read a book or a scientific evaluatuion on something else every once and awhile, a break and some fresh atmosphere is a good thing this time of day for anyone. BF obsessing is tough work obviously?

A road between here (my home) and a small town, I noticed for the first time had been paved this morning. Now common sense and logic tells me some men or perhaps even a woman or two for flagging has left some equipment and trucks parked here close tp the end of the work and without supervision. Well I would automatically assume a crew of humans brought some equipent in, done the jub at a time I was either in transit between home and work or asleep. I have read a couple of stories about BF being near roads and highways a few times in the past, if I was in my BF obsessing mode I could probably jump to somewhere on this forum and convince a couple of more obsessorst join my side in arguing that it is possible if not probable, that some BF did this pavement I asked her neighbor clearly if we hang around until these men in hardhats leave we wiill see them come back and finish this bit for ro the school
Rod
Boogerbottom, you said it better that I could....rock piles no matter how remote the place is, is more than likely done by humans....and until we know otherwise....rock piles and Bigfoot is a waste of time to discuss........I feel the same way about stick structures...........Last year when I was out collecting Hairy Man stories, this one guy told me of a 'nest' he found up in a tree, about 20feet up. It was about 6feet in diameter, to big it seemed to be made by a bird of prey. He had found it a few months earlier in the bush behind his place. Each morning he would follow this thin narrow track to walk his dog, and each time he would wonder who built that nest. He was aware of the stories of the Hairy Man, so he decided that this could well be made by a Hairy Man......anyway, when he called me, I asked him to go give it a good look, climb up if you can...see if there are any feathers or bird crap in and around the nest etc etc.......A week later he called back to tell me after closer inspection it was just a collection of branches and tangled up vines that had accumulated. (we had a big Cyclone come through over 2 and a half years ago, which had ripped the tops of the rainforest)....So in the end, despite the bloke telling friends and me, "I have a Hairy Man nest" back of my place, all it was, was a tangled mass of sticks and vines.......there is most likely a rational explanation to most stories, if investigated closer...

Now in saying that, I have come across many a story that cannot be explained rationally away...no matter how hard people try.
boogerbottom
Rod, im trying to go back and read some of your older posts on other threads and keep up with you here at the same time. Well it wore me out but we are on the same page on the rocks and sticks. I see several pictures posted around this forum of "tree formations' and different individuals arguing about whether BF is marking territory, leaving trail signals, or leaving signs for interpretation by other BF. I wander if anyone ever took the time to argue about whether or not these are BF related or natural phenomenom, as I have the wood around home filled with these structures after a good windstorm snaps the tops out of some of the more spindly pines and partly dead beech trees around here. I don't know how you can skip right into the meaning and intelligence exhibited by a behaviour without first finding some sort of evidence that the BF had anything to do with it to start with. Especially when common sense, and anyone that has ever spend anytime at all in the forest or woodlands around here, would point out that these "stick formations" are everywhere and without any sort of order or pattern. Furthermore, and hold on this is kinda creepy, the things seem to multiply after a storm!!!!! Maybe this brings up a whole 'nother thread all it's own....if they can assume that BF runs around and makes them, well it's only fair then that I have just discovered a new crypto that looks like a pile of dead sticks, breeds during the wet months and follows BF around to help confuse all the pesky BF trackers. This might need it's own forum.
RB
QUOTE(boogerbottom @ Dec 12 2008, 10:39 PM) *
... But I will state that 99.99% of rock piles found are the result of human actions....


Nice numbers... I quite certain you have the evidence to back it up... please post... in 5000 words or less would be nice... rolleyes2.gif
bipedalist
Well somewhere in this thread someone thinks logic is only owned by one person per thread, that being said, I say that rock piles are markers
that something or someone moved them there. Any takers? scratchhead.gif
boogerbottom
QUOTE(bipedalist @ Dec 13 2008, 09:39 AM) *
Well somewhere in this thread someone thinks logic is only owned by one person per thread, that being said, I say that rock piles are markers
that something or someone moved them there. Any takers? scratchhead.gif


I thought logic was free and for all takers. Maybe that is where the problem lies, some are afraid if they use logic to look at some of the so-called 'evidence' being discussed here it undoubtly cast a dark shadow on their BF plays with rocks theories. And now if they also think that someone is going to send them a bill for using it then BF research might be in trouble!

I have to agree with the part that someone moved the rockpiles there simply because historically it is common knowledge that man has moved stone and/or utilized stone in all sorts of ways. We know that Native Americans used it to create effigies, as protective barriers against other NAs and to keep animals out of their cultivations. They made fish traps in creeks and rivers with rocks, used rock mounds in ceremonies and some burial rituals, and in places like where the town of Talking Rock, Georgia is currently located, early Europeans observed the local tribes haul and place stones as a form of markers to communicate such things of each others direction of travel, to point the way to the latest hunting encampment or a cache of food or weapons, and to alert a passer thru to unfriendlies who may have been spotted in the area.

Once the continent began to be populated by whites, the protective rock walls became larger and more elaborate as the widespread practice of cultivated the land and enclosing livestock grew from small clearings to hundreds of acres. Farm owners of all acreages, small to large, regularly removed stones from their fields and placed them into piles or fence rows to clear more soil for the crop and to prevent damage to equipment this practice continues today and some really large mechanical rock pickers moves tons of rocks a day to facilitate construction and agricultural practices.

I am just curious as to how someone can stroll out into woods and point out a pile of rocks and assume that anything other a human had a hand in it? What would lead to any other conclusion. I am trying to be delicate here, as the tone of this discussion is trying to turn south for some reason? But just because someone considers themselve a BF researcher to some to degree or a person is out in a rural area specifically to inspect for BF evidence, it appears that for some reason they expect the rest of us to totally disregard any logical explanations for most of their reported findings and conclusions? You can believe in BF, but I don't think you have to believe every pile of rocks, fallen tree top or broken branch you run across is the result of a BF trying to leave you a special message or is the gravesite of a dead grandaddy sasquatch.

Why does the pursuit of this creature so cloud everyone's judgement? A bit of logic and common sense applied before reporting "that you just found a BF rock pile" and subjecting yourself to the ridicule of explaining why you determined it to be a BF pile and not just one of the millions of man made rock heaps laying around might keep some people from getting their feelings hurt on this forum. Unless you watched BF toting the rocks and building it, and maybe got some vid or a pic or two, I would be embaressed to even bring up the fact that for some strange reason you have officially declared this particular pile of rocks to "Officially, maybe put there by BF or something"....
RB
We might as well just stop visiting the BFF it seems… no use in discussing anything until bigfoot is proven to everyone to be real… please…

Logic employs reasoning… which means other options must be considered… if we do not employ reasoning… we cannot be logical…

Now… that’s logic! thumbup.gif
norcal logger
I think rockpiles are BF Masonic temples and if memory serves me the BF that built them were referred to as "the stoners".
boogerbottom
QUOTE(RB @ Dec 13 2008, 04:50 AM) *
Nice numbers... I quite certain you have the evidence to back it up... please post... in 5000 words or less would be nice... rolleyes2.gif



Come on RB? Yes I have evidence, the history books and any account of humans on earth! Most all cultures piled up rocks for one reason or another. You can easily prove me wrong with just one example of something other than man using or moving stone for any other reason whatsoever other than instinctually, for example searching for food or nesting. One example of some creature building a mound of stones for purposes? With an intent?
I would love to be proven wrong, trust me here, I am not a skeptic against any believe in this creature. But some avenues of BF claims and suggested evidence I just can't accept without even the most improbable of evidence. Basically what I am now being asked is this....There is millioms of man-made mounds and piles of stones all over the world along with eyewitness accounts, historical material in several forms and lately pictures of people piling up rocks, now someone has found a pile of rocks and stated that they might be by a bf. I agree they might be BF's, heck it might be made by unicorns, but all I am saying is it is manmade until you present evidence otherwise. That is simply how life is, is this forum different, facts and history are not suddenly of lesser value in a BF debate are they. Don't get mad or get your feelings hurt, heck just post me some data on a possible BF rock structure and we'll work on it together?
julio12
boogerbottom
Sure we can post Rock formations and tree formations photo's all day,Yes you are right that they could have been done by human intervention.But because of this forum I have learned not say that the the photos i posted were made by a bigfoot or by whatever.Rather those photos be judge by who ever see'e them and have that person decide whether it is bigfoot related or human related.As for my investigation of what i find I try to evaluate whether this could have been done by a human?why was it done by a human?What purpose does it serve if it was done by a human ?.Now you have to remember I have already have been hoaxed So I am very suspicous of everything I find .I already know that these creatures are real because i have already had actual visual sightings of these creatures.So some of the things I find I am very settle and some other things that i say is because i have either expieranced it or have heard about it and have proven to be true.

If you say that you are writing a book on this subject well then my suggestion to you would be to put as much to time in the field in a active turf of these creatures and find the truth on your own.That is the the key to this door to this mystery.Go have your very own sighting and when you do come back here on this forum and tell us about it.I am sure we would all like to hear about it.More people get weeded out here then any place else and thats what make this forum great because it has a mixture.I think I am off topic so i will get back on topic

Those two pictures i posted the rock the left was changed from one night to the next night when i was bow hunting with my friend in an area that i know.I had showed the rock to my friend that morning but I did not have the camera until the evening and thats when i took the photo.The next morning when we were walking to our stands the rocks were changed to the one in the right.So idid not take a photo until the evening again after we bow hunted .That whole day the woods were silent and nothing was moving.There other things we found and stuff that i do not believe a Bigfoot would do untill this year.All though I cannot prove ,I just cannot see how the weather could play a part on how trees could be fashioned in such a way.It had to take something with hands to create this and i am not a believer in tree formations but the tree formation i found was impressive.Now whether these creatures created or humans did that remains to be investigated and proven some how.I just do not have the resources to do so .Maybe later.I have ideas on how I might be able to move these guys from one spot to another .If i could do this I can them maybe be able to setup something to capture a photo of who it might be playing the mind games.So I have more pictures that i will post .any suggestion could help
Saaz
As someone who has spent a fair amount of time hiking and backpacking in backcountry, I can say that it is not uncommon to see rock piles (cairns). They are used as trail markers because the trail isn't always obvious. Even if it is at the moment, chances are it wasn't at a certain time of year. Not saying rock formations are always made by people, just noting, as others have, a reason for the rock piles one sees in the woods.
AlbertaSasquatch
Thanks for the reply Julio! That is creepy. One thing I would like to point out, yes humans are probably responsible for most rock piles that are found. Are some thought to be made by Sasquatch....maybe. I know if I find a rock pile from a 100 years ago or even 20 years ago it is going to look much different than a rock pile made an hour ago. Rock piles made by homesteaders and whatnot will be extremely overgrown with weeds and probably are almost invisible until you are standing on top of them, and they usually aren't precisely stacked, they are usually thrown into a pile. I highly doubt that any of these "old" rock piles are being categorized as Sasquatch made rock piles by anyone. "Fresh" rock piles are a different story. If you found one on a hiking trail or just off of it, it is still highly likely that a person made it. If you are in the middle of an old growth forest that hardly anyone ever visits and you find a rock pile on a rarely used game trail and it looks fresh, and by fresh I mean no weeds growing around it and through the cracks, or maybe you can see where the rocks were lifted from, then you have to start wondering what made this. JMHO.
georgerm

Here is a good report of BFs moving large boulders leaving definate rock structures.




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Here is the rockpile story witnessed by Glen Thomas:


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The Glen Thomas Sighting
http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/...-with-a-shovel/

I have spent only one day out in the brush in Oregon as compared to months in California and British Columbia, but I rate that day as the most productive I have ever spent. The man who made it possible refuses to let his name be made public (note: the man was later publicly identified as Glen Thomas), but he did put his story on tape, as follows:

"I was supposed to be watching a catskinner as he was fire trailing, but it was awful cold, and I walked a mile or so down the trail, because he had no need of anyone at that time, and I thought I’d warm up and see the country. Up where he was, it was a cold east wind blowing; a little further down it was a west wind coming in. It was late fall, the last weekend in deer season I think, in 1967.

"It was a mountain trail - they have several of them up there - footpaths, and for horses. The elevation was about between four and five thousand feet. I came out lower down, into the fog, before I saw anything, and the fog was freezing on the trees because it was so cold, but if the wind would blow, the fog would break, and fall off. That made it kind of noisy, it sounded like walking.

"I came around a bend - well, first I noticed some rocks that were turned over. All the other rocks were wet, because of the fog, but these rocks were dry. Then I looked up, about forty or fifty feet, up on a ridge of rock, and I saw these animals there - looked like human or just about. Large male; the female wasn’t so large; and a small baby - well, not really small. It was moving with them. It was standing up, mostly. The two older ones were squatting down and sort of bending, as they picked up rocks and smelled them. They were kind of careful. They moved on for a few minutes, and then finally the male found possibly what he was looking for and dug real fast down into the rocks, which were large boulders - not the round-type of rocks, but the flat, sharp kind.

"I could not explain why these rocks were there; there hadn’t been a slide or anything. They were on top of the ridge, so they wouldn’t have come down from anywhere. They are loose, quite a few holes underneath them, and they are as if they had been broken up - definitely not the round river-type rock. But they (the animals) would pick them up, and, after they smelled them, they would lay them down, on top of each other. They didn’t just lay them back where they had picked them up, they stacked them up, in piles. And when the male found what he was looking for, he really made the rocks fly. The big rocks weighed 50, 60, or even possible 100 pounds; he just jerked them out with his hand. He didn’t seem to take any precautions for his safety. Later on I looked, and there was some rock there that could have fallen on him, but he wasn’t concerned.

"He brought out what appeared to be a grass nest. Possibly some stored hay that small rodents had stored there. He dug through that, and brought out the rodents. It seems they ate them. The rodents appeared to be in hibernation, or asleep, or something. There were about 6 or 8 rodents. The small animal, I noticed, only got one, but the others got 2 or 3 apiece.

"But about that time they became aware of my presence. And well, just became alert. I was along side of this trail that follows the ridge. I didn’t remember getting there, but I was squatting down beside a small tree when I became aware of where I was. As soon as they realized I was there, they suddenly began to move. Real quiet, behind some low-hanging limbs on a tree there. I didn’t see them again after that.

"I tried to follow their tracks in the direction I thought they would have to go, but I couldn’t find any, although there was frost there. But the next day I found 2 tracks, I heel print, and the front part of the foot, the toes, but they were in a different direction - the direction from which I had come - and I never did get to connect them up with exactly which direction they had gone or know anything about them.


BF rocks!
RB
QUOTE(boogerbottom @ Dec 14 2008, 09:40 AM) *
...Don't get mad or get your feelings hurt...


It’s cool man… there are no hard feelings on my part… I totally accept your apology…

I admire a man who can admit he was wrong…

TLM
i haven't read any of the responses in this thread, cause i was in a hurry, but i can tell you this about rock formations. they go way back wh

contd......sorry, hit the wrong button, but i'm from washington state and the rock formations here are to guide people on the trails of hikes and lookouts and people have been dong these according to my father, for a very long time. i can't believe some people are shocked and mystified by them when they them, i guess it depends on where you're from? jmo
damndirtyape
Bigfoot must be of asian descent and so culturally would be at home with Zen gardening.
RedRatSnake
QUOTE(georgerm @ Dec 14 2008, 03:26 PM) *
Here is a good report of BFs moving large boulders leaving definate rock structures.
BF rocks!


Hi

When i think of Bigfoot and rocks that story always comes to mind,

Peace
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julio12
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i haven't read any of the responses in this thread, cause i was in a hurry, but i can tell you this about rock formations. they go way back wh

contd......sorry, hit the wrong button, but i'm from washington state and the rock formations here are to guide people on the trails of hikes and lookouts and people have been dong these according to my father, for a very long time. i can't believe some people are shocked and mystified by them when they them, i guess it depends on where you're from? jmo


True! But when it is done from one night to the next day in the morning one has to wonder why?Trail marking I have no problem with, but my problem comes into the mix is when you have a combination of rock formations mixed with unusual large tree formations as well as wood knocking all thrown into the mix.But there is more to this,but going into this is just conterversy and not worth the effort in arguing the point.I would rather keep that aspect out and just stick to what can be proven to be either human or not.
bluforMD
I have found Inukshuks miles away from any civilization. Julio12 posted a good example of a very simple one. They are used predominantly as markers, but more commonly people made them just for the sake of making them. I often see them on top of rock formations that have been blasted to create roadways. Whether or not some are not made by humans is up for debate. They are a cultural aspect of Natives, often attributed to Inuit people as the land up North can be barren and directional guides are helpful.
TLM
julio12~ yes! i would agree w/ that also and when you throw all those things in the mix......well, i would have to say i wouldn't want to encounter all of those at once, by myself! aaahh that would lift the hairs for sure!!!
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