GreenRogue
Nov 4 2003, 02:08 PM
Just thought Id let everyone know that I was going to be on the artistfirst.com radio program tonight I am going to play the call that the woman recorded from her bedroom window just recently I am still trying to get the calls from the time we were out with RB and hairyman from my camcorder to a clean copy a friend of mine is working on it in a production studio so we should have those real soon. Sean
StacyInMI
Nov 4 2003, 02:16 PM
That's just an online station, right? So you'd have to listen to it through the computer?
SgtFang
Nov 4 2003, 03:01 PM
Rats! I've got to go do some fiberglassing tonight- is there a way to save the broadcast to listen to later?
Thanks
-Sarge
Quake
Nov 4 2003, 04:55 PM
http://www.artistfirst.com/morgan.htmI think this is what he means. I am there!
BenThere_2
Nov 4 2003, 07:10 PM
Spork77
Nov 4 2003, 08:26 PM
I'm there....play the recordings already!!!
Lee Murphy
Nov 4 2003, 10:59 PM
I'll be on Thursday, November 6 @ 8:00 pm eastern time yakking about my books.
Good luck on there, Lee...
I mean... don't freeze up in front of all those people listening or anything...
Don't even think about how many people are hanging on your every word...
Just relax and have fun!
Lee Murphy
Nov 5 2003, 12:03 AM
Thanks (I mean for the diarrhea cramps!)
jimf
Nov 5 2003, 06:58 AM
Ok listened to this again last night.The first time was only about 20 minutes when ecwool was on.And once again all I'm left with is a feeling of "WTF?" afterwards...Between some of the email questions that Morgan addressed and some of his own perspectives on BF and the amount of time spent talking to the interviewee (when they actually get a chance to speak with Morgan running his yap) its more of a why bother sort of thing ?Sometimes (from what I've read elsewhere) I can't help but wonder if if its a fabrication of the facts of past events or just the addition of his own take on it that makes it seem so far out there.
GreenRogue
Nov 5 2003, 09:26 AM
I have to agree with you jimf Robert W. Morgan does talk alot and it kinda pissed me off that he would just discount the latest scientific methods of research such as pheramones and the fact that we had a well known and respected scientist as Kathy Moscowitz along with us ( as a matter of fact she was the one in charge of the whole thing) held little merit to Mr. Morgan I was a little disappointed by the whole show in as that I had alot more things to talk about that I didnt get to but maybe next time or maybe on the Art Bell show as I am trying to work out a date to do that show now. well I sent the scream we recorded to bipto and he says he will post it here on the site for you guys to hear. Sean
bipto
Nov 5 2003, 10:08 AM
I don't know Morgan or what his credentials are, every time I listen to his show I wonder why he has it. It seems to be nothing more than an ego-building exercise...
BowlingBigfoot
Nov 5 2003, 12:44 PM
I have a copy of the show from last night if any wants it. It's almost 9Mb and requires Windows Media Player v9. I'll burn it for you, or if you don't have a computer, I could tape it. Just can't promise much if alot of people want it. Pretty much a couple shot deal.
As for the show. Yah, I was very disappointed that Sean couldn't get a word in edgewise. Why have him on as a guest if you just want to answer email questions. Also, Robert seemed pretty hung up on the fact that there 'were females' on the trip and that 'the men had to protect them', basically how he didn't agree with that. That's all fine, but the problem is, I don't remember Sean saying anything refering to that at all. He just mentioned something about having females on the trip too, but didn't seem to get in a word about his theory's.
I don't want to knock Robert Morgan. He has put alot of time into the research, but you need to take his comments for where they come from. He uses alot of Indian Tribal beliefs. On the other hand. You may not agree with the Pheramone chip use, or the recorded screems usage. Heck, I don't know the screams are saying, BUT it seems that some people are having success with it. Or at least they are getting responses from it. Can't knock them for that.
Juergen
Hairy Man
Nov 5 2003, 01:16 PM
I just finished listening to the show. I am very disappointed. I don't know Mr. Morgan, but it doesn't seem to me that he is truly interested in other people's research methods or accomplishments. I for one would avoid being on his show in the future.
As for his comments about pheromones, the recordings, and females, what can I say? Since I was one of the women there, along with Montra DuMond, BFRO Investigator, I can assure you..NO ONE was protecting us. Montra and I have logged hundreds of hours of research...heard dozens of vocalizations, seen prints, trees, evidence galore...and have had our own encounters. We have never carried weapons, ever, nor have felt the need to. We were in charge of that expedition, and the gentlemen with us were more than welcome to arm themselves however they saw fit. They however, were armed for their own benefit, not for ours, and would have carried the same gear whether we were there or not. They may choose to reply to Mr. Morgan's comments to verify this information, as several of them are on this board.
Secondly, very few people have access to the pheromones. They are a mix of female gorilla and human sex attractants. They are not related to the human female menstrual cycle. They have been very successful in the past, the skookum cast being an example. Mr. Morgan may not be familiar with them, hence his comments. I, for one, am a firm believer in their ability to attract activity.
As for the recordings, well, Mr. Morgan acted like Sean didn't know what a coyote sounded like, which is fine. He was trying to be objective and scientific, which we should all appreciate; it just didn't give Sean enough time to really explain what was going on. Had Sean had enough time to talk, I think the show would have been more professional.
Oh well, you live and learn!
Arkansan
Nov 5 2003, 01:29 PM
You tell 'em Hairy Man. I've been around a few men in the woods that I was worried I would have to protect...
And with assistance of a fine Bigfoot researcher, I also had the opportunity to listen to the show today. I thought Sean did a good job during what little time he was given to speak, although I’m not certain it serves any useful purpose to name any landmarks what so ever during interviews such as these… seems it could only contaminate a research area… but hey, that’s just my opinion.
And I can attest to the fact that, not only were the females involved in that expedition in
complete charge of every aspect of the operation, short of the movements of the individual field teams, of which one female was an unarmed member... No females were armed, but 4 of the 5 males
were armed with firearms, totally at our own choosing, certainly not by request.
On the night I went into the field with Sean, there weren’t even any weapons left in camp with the four females and one male that were there. I don’t believe that issue was even discussed there then, so it shouldn’t be an issue anywhere else...
I might even go so far as to say there may have been some male members of the group who could have learned something from how calm the females were during the entire expedition...
But I'm not surprised
that kook tried to spin something off of nothing, however… Isn’t that what that entire show is? Just an opportunity to watch some guy paddle a little rowboat wayyyy out in the middle of
Lake Me?
A spin-off of nothing produces nothing…
That’s Fig-Newton’s third law of uncertainty… otherwise known as the
air-biscuit principle…
BenThere_2
Nov 5 2003, 06:20 PM
Robert W. "buy my tapes" Morgan......
"get on your hands and knees lifting your hands to the sky ....releasing yourself to the forrest giant." don't quote me on that.
RWM has a bad habit of "selling" himself and his past experiences being close to alot of reknown Bigfooters.
SEAN did good to get what he said inbetween "I remember" comments :rolleyes:
ohhh wait he did ask for forgiveness of his forgetfulness.
QUOTE
Arkansan Posted on Nov 5 2003, 01:29 PM
You tell 'em Hairy Man. I've been around a few men in the woods that I was worried I would have to protect...
ARKANSAS I told you not to talk about me like that!
MonkeyMan
Nov 5 2003, 06:45 PM
I'm sad to say that I missed Sean, but in listening several other times I've found the show to be a joke, and a bad one. The guests are often, if not usually worth listening to, but the interviewers/hosts are atrocious. I don't think I've ever ranted and raved so much at innocent little computer speakers in my life.
On one show, we were 22 minutes in before the guy quit babbling about non-BF related things. I thought John Madden had taken the studio over or something. ACK!
BowlingBigfoot
Nov 5 2003, 07:59 PM
Although I find the show ENTERTAINING, I have to agree. I don't now if it's just been the last few shows or what. For example, the "Holloween Show". I believe I fell asleep listening to that one. I'll keep listening to the show, but if it keeps up with 80% blah-blah-blah and 20% some BF talk, I may stop.
I also noticed that Artist First listed the show this week as The Robert Morgan Show, not Bigfoot Central. Probably just reading too much into that one, but.....
BB
pegleg52
Nov 5 2003, 08:01 PM
QUOTE(BenThere_2 @ Nov 5 2003, 06:20 PM)
Robert W. "buy my tapes" Morgan......
"get on your hands and knees lifting your hands to the sky ....releasing yourself to the forrest giant." don't quote me on that.
RWM has a bad habit of "selling" himself and his past experiences being close to alot of reknown Bigfooters.
SEAN did good to get what he said inbetween "I remember" comments :rolleyes:
ohhh wait he did ask for forgiveness of his forgetfulness.
QUOTE
Arkansan Posted on Nov 5 2003, 01:29 PM
You tell 'em Hairy Man. I've been around a few men in the woods that I was worried I would have to protect...
ARKANSAS I told you not to talk about me like that!
Just like Robet to think he is important enough for the Bigfoot Godess to talk about him

Quite the big head eh. Everybody know it was me she was talkin about
Peg
ranshirl
Nov 6 2003, 12:27 PM

@ Robert and Peglegs
GreenRogue
Nov 6 2003, 04:19 PM
I think that the whole Bigfoot Central radio program is a great Idea but they need to seriously lose Robert W Morgan. He is a self serving know it all and for all of his claims of bigfoot incounters can he produce one credible photo or recording? I seriously doubt it. I heard a tape of him on the Art Bell show once and he had some recording of a Sasquqatch growling and saying "your not welcome". I think if they could get someone like Kathy Moscowitz to host the program it would be both entertaining and informative I know the guy who is the boss at artist first and he did alot better job than robert morgan does so maybe if enough people contact Artistfirst.com and request that they drop Robert Morgan than we will all be able to listen to and enjoy the program.
bipto
Nov 6 2003, 04:29 PM
QUOTE(GreenRogue @ Nov 6 2003, 04:19 PM)
I think if they could get someone like Kathy Moscowitz to host the program it would be both entertaining and informative...
Hey Sean...you got a little something on your nose there...
BenThere_2
Nov 6 2003, 04:36 PM
Howlingmad
Nov 6 2003, 05:03 PM
LMAO @ Bipto
BowlingBigfoot
Nov 6 2003, 05:33 PM
Sean is just making sure that when he's on his next recon that Kathy has his back!
Sorry guys, still hung up about Roberts little tangent on Tuesday night.
BB
Hairy Man
Nov 6 2003, 07:04 PM
bipto wrote:
QUOTE
Hey Sean...you got a little something on your nose there...
Hey now...we
all need a fan club. Just because there is only one member in
mine makes no difference.
BowlingBigfoot wrote:
QUOTE
Sean is just making sure that when he's on his next recon that Kathy has his back!
And I will...gotta take care of my hommey!
Fishbone35
Nov 6 2003, 07:11 PM
Oh bull, Kathy. You've got two members in your fan club. You forgot to count me.
(Like I'm just tied up to a tree in the middle of nowhere or something.)
pegleg52
Nov 6 2003, 07:15 PM
(edit)......never mind
Peg
BenThere_2
Nov 6 2003, 07:26 PM

??
QUOTE
Sorry guys, still hung up about Roberts little tangent on Tuesday night. BB
Tell me ya mean RWM ?
LOL
Robert
GreenRogue
Nov 6 2003, 08:54 PM
LMAO @ Bipto, but seriously they need a host who is knowledgable on the subject is qualified and can make it entertaining as well and if you have never had the opertunity to speak with Cathy she is funny and knowledgable at the same time and really easy to talk with but there has got to be someone other than RWM that can do that show Im sorry but he really is a jackass I have not heard one positive response to his involvement with the show, I could do a way better job than he does although as I am not as qualified as someone like Cathy or maybe Matt Moneymaker or DDA I would rather they get the spot light I have not earned the right to be considered as being the same level of field investigator as those people but I am working at it and am clawing and scratching my way to being a respected member of the active field workers community.
Fishbone35
Nov 6 2003, 09:01 PM
DUDE!!! That's Kathy with a
K!
Well Kathy, now we know who your # 1 fan is. 
Just razzin' ya', Sean. But...you better fix that before she kicks your butt!
bipto
Nov 6 2003, 09:12 PM
QUOTE(GreenRogue @ Nov 6 2003, 08:54 PM)
...but seriously they need a host who is knowledgable on the subject is qualified and can make it entertaining as well...
Dat's the fact, Jack.
RabidMonkey
Nov 6 2003, 09:25 PM
QUOTE(GreenRogue @ Nov 6 2003, 04:19 PM)
I think that the whole Bigfoot Central radio program is a great Idea but they need to seriously lose Robert W Morgan. He is a self serving know it all and for all of his claims of bigfoot incounters can he produce one credible photo or recording? I seriously doubt it. I heard a tape of him on the Art Bell show once and he had some recording of a Sasquqatch growling and saying "your not welcome". I think if they could get someone like Kathy Moscowitz to host the program it would be both entertaining and informative I know the guy who is the boss at artist first and he did alot better job than robert morgan does so maybe if enough people contact Artistfirst.com and request that they drop Robert Morgan than we will all be able to listen to and enjoy the program.
My sentiments exactly GreenRogue. I am just curious as to if the "guy who is the boss" is the other person on Robert Morgan's show who brings up the viewers email questions? Because I have only been listening to the show for a short while, and the guy who covers the emails now, used to be hosting the show when I first started listening. When Robert Morgan came back on, I became very dissatisfied with the show. The show does have great potential.
SkunkHunter
Nov 6 2003, 10:35 PM
RWM is all about RWM and loves to talk about RWM and the only reason he interviews anyone is so he can hear RWM tell yet another story. Sorry to any of his fans, thats just the way he seems.
BowlingBigfoot
Nov 7 2003, 12:02 AM
ArtistFirst and RWM aside.... How do you think a website would do to have maybe an interview a week, where you could go to the site and listen to the interview at anytime during that week. Then at the end of the week, a new interview can be listened to.
I'm taking this from a bowling website, where the person basically does a 20 minute phone interview with a "mover and shaker" in the industry. His focus is to spread knowledge. He does sell the previous interviews on CD for I think $6 to help pay for the site upkeep, but I would think a BF show could either sell a CD or offer the older interviews for free in an archive section. My angle would be simply out of a hobby/researcher interest. If I want to get rich, I won't peddle BF stuff. I think it would be cool to have something like this.
BB
BowlingBigfoot
Nov 7 2003, 12:06 AM
Didn't mean to sound like there was a limit. Maybe a phone interview might last shorter or longer. It would be cool to have a 1,2,3 hour interview to playback. If interest is there, maybe a new one a day....OK, I'm dreaming. I could do that and keep my job, but just trying to spur ideas to add to the BF Radio Shows out there.
BB
bipto
Nov 7 2003, 07:09 AM
First of all, there are movers and shakers in the bowling industry!?! There's a bowling industry?!?

Second, I've actually had that thought! There's an internet radio show called
Your Mac Life where movers and shakers in the Mac industry (admittedly, nothing compared to those bowling guys!) get interviewed. They distribute thier show as a QuickTime stream. This is highly economical since QT Streaming Server is free for unlimited connections. Basically, all you need is the computer and the bandwidth. Maybe some odds and ends to allow you to record the show and edit it, but that's all.
Really good idea, I think...
GreenRogue
Nov 7 2003, 08:56 AM
yeah the guy who did the show while RWM was gone was scott or Z-man as he is called on the show, maybe we could get bipto to make a petition form here on the BFF and ask for RWM to be removed from the show as he takes away from it so much and bipto could forward that to artistfirst.com. what do you think bipto?
BowlingBigfoot
Nov 7 2003, 10:33 AM
Watch it Bipto! There IS a bowling industry. As Homer Simpson correctfully quotes, "It is the number one participant sport in America..." Remember, people probably say similar things about bigfoot researchers...
Actually, if you surveyed the bowling centers in the Sierra foothills, I'd bet one of their biggest customers in the winter are the Bowling Bigfoot that come down from the blistery mountains to do some occassional extreme bowling....

You have to look out for those 'Rogue Males' though, they seem to have a tendancy of taking the size 18 bowling shoes with them. They think it's hip.
As for artistfirst. It might be a good time for someone else to step in, so that RWM can focus more on his Universe show and his neural feedback 'research'. That way he won't have to rush through the BF show(like he did on Tuesday) so fast and someone that has the time for the BF show can give it the time it deserves.
Still think that there might be something in having another option for an internet radio show.
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