bf2004
Aug 25 2008, 10:38 PM
I received a copy of this today, along with a map of Northern California sightings and footprint finds. This is just book one; there is a second part coming out next year. From what I understand, Paulides' talk in Felton, California was very well-received, and that the book is excellent from what I have heard from those who have read it.
RogerKni
Aug 25 2008, 11:14 PM
It's not available on Amazon. Who's the publisher?
bf2004
Aug 25 2008, 11:51 PM
Hancock House is the publisher, but North America Bigfoot Search has some copies available at
http://www.nabigfootsearch.com Hancock House will release it sometime next month.
http://www.hancockhouse.com
billgreen2005bigfoot
Aug 26 2008, 04:10 AM
hey henry (bf2004) good morning im glad you liked the new book but i hope i get copy of it soon when i save money of course. but i guess ill be very patient indeed. thanks bill green. p.s. the book cover looks awesome indeed.
damndirtyape
Aug 26 2008, 07:13 AM
Picked this book up in Santa Cruz and been reading it. Found a few typos and misplaced directions to pictures and so far nothing really earth shattering about Paul’s research that hasn’t been done before. From Paul's presentation I thought he implied that the majority of his work with Bigfoot witnesses was covered with affidavits but that does not seem to be the case presented in the book. I am more than half way through it and maybe a dozen or so witnesses of one ilk or another and only a couple so far used the affidavit process.
The artist used in the book is good but I still prefer Pete Travers drawings. Pete is really the first person I know of who went to the effort to work with witnesses and draw the creature of their encounter… doing what they were doing when the witness saw them. Some of the drawings in the book actually look a little like human transients that have seen better days. Some even look like the witnesses themselves. I wonder if people like drawings more if they see something in them that reminds them a little bit of themselves. Odd.
Paul’s book, so far, and on more than a few times, has deviled into the “I know someone who knows someone who thinks they saw Bigfoot 30 years ago” type of reporting. We all know how that goes. First time I have seen it in a book though.
I would have gone for Kathy’s book instead but I was on my Harley and room was at a premium. Kathy’s book is of a larger format and I didn’t want to mess up the cover.
I hope that Paul’s next book will be on more recent events or some actual field work. I know he is out doing that kind of stuff. But door to door witness canvassing may be a novel approach to Bigfoot research but it only holds my attention for so long before I need something more… like putting the pieces together and forming a theory to act on… then doing so.
I did see that every witness so far had been treated with a great deal of respect. That was nice and am sure that it will help the cause with future work in Native American studies of this kind.
Still haven’t been able to figure out the maps (color and B&W) that state there is important “silver” markings on them. I don’t see any silver, even in the one’s that have been enlarged.
Hairy Man
Aug 26 2008, 09:28 AM
psst. it's Dave not Paul....
damndirtyape
Aug 26 2008, 07:29 PM
oooops! Was lost in a dune, wait a minute that is Atraidies or something... Sorry Dave. Should of looked at the cover better. What a trip! My mind was on the bike ride down, crossing the Golden Gate Bridge and my new grand daughter
nefarious1
Aug 26 2008, 07:56 PM
Rick, your grand daughter is beautiful!
Hairy Man
Aug 26 2008, 08:50 PM
Oh Rick! She's just a beauty! Congrats!!!!
bipto
Aug 26 2008, 08:53 PM
Oh, wow, cool road pic...nice, the Golden Gate...awww, cute baby...whoa - AAIIEEEEE!!! MY EYES!!! AAARRRGH! OUCH!!! MY EYES!!!!!
*whimper*
Hairy Man
Aug 26 2008, 08:58 PM
Wait, are those bubbles in the bathtub??
tugboatwa
Aug 26 2008, 09:00 PM
I love your book reviewing technique. Personally I would have gone with more bubbles!
damndirtyape
Aug 26 2008, 09:39 PM
No. here is a bubble diaper and I was going to let my grand daughter put her two feet into the review but decided against it. One was big enough.
Volsquatch
Aug 26 2008, 09:47 PM
I believe that's the cutest baby I've ever seen.
Just look how much she looks like her Grandpa!
*AHEM*, no, I didn't say Rick is "cute" and I'll kick anybody in the nads who says otherwise...
bf2004
Aug 26 2008, 10:50 PM
Congrats, Grandpa Rick. She will be joining you in the field before too long. She is a little doll, no doubt about it.
Hairy Man
Aug 26 2008, 11:01 PM
QUOTE(Volsquatch @ Aug 26 2008, 08:47 PM)

I believe that's the cutest baby I've ever seen.
Just look how much she looks like her Grandpa!
*AHEM*, no, I didn't say Rick is "cute" and I'll kick anybody in the nads who says otherwise... 
Did you just say that Rick is cute?
bartlojays
Aug 26 2008, 11:13 PM
Nano Noll
I think that has a nice ring to it.
billgreen2005bigfoot
Aug 27 2008, 12:26 AM
hey rick wow awww thats nicest cuteest baby in that above photo indeed. thanks bill green
Volsquatch
Aug 27 2008, 06:43 AM
QUOTE(Hairy Man @ Aug 27 2008, 01:01 AM)

Did you just say that Rick is cute?

You know, now that I think about it, maybe I
did..
But Kat, you're MUCH hotter.
cameratrapper
Aug 27 2008, 02:12 PM
Rick,
Congratulations on a new granddaughter, she's a real beauty.
My best to your family.
Chris
AlbertaSasquatch
Aug 27 2008, 04:00 PM
I liked your review Rick. Maybe we should start a Rick Noll Book Review thread. Just a thought. Also just wanted to say congratulations grandpa, she's a sweetie!

I wish you were my cool grandpa Rick!
Hairy Man
Aug 27 2008, 04:01 PM
QUOTE(Volsquatch @ Aug 27 2008, 05:43 AM)

But Kat, you're MUCH hotter.

Awww...thank you! (and yes I realize that my competition was Rick and a baby, but I'll still take it!)!
Sooooo....where is the review of my book? How come Rick isn't reading my book in the tub?? :-(
bipto
Aug 27 2008, 05:54 PM
QUOTE(AlbertaSasquatch @ Aug 27 2008, 05:00 PM)

I liked your review Rick. Maybe we should start a Rick Noll Book Review thread.
Fine, but I don't want to see him reading every book he reviews in a bubblebath...
AlbertaSasquatch
Aug 27 2008, 05:58 PM
BigfootDad
Aug 27 2008, 10:23 PM
great pics, Rick! Glad to see who your destination was! beautiful girl... congrats!
I concur with your initial review as well...found the same typos and insignificant errors,
but didn't find that the hype matched the work...and I don't say "that's just marketing..." either.
we'll see what happens with North American Bigfoot Search and his interaction with other groups
and investigators.
Hairy Man
Aug 27 2008, 11:00 PM
QUOTE(bipto @ Aug 27 2008, 04:54 PM)

Fine, but I don't want to see him reading every book he reviews in a bubblebath...

But what if the rest of us do??? I am very sure I will sell more copies that way....
Elusive Ape
Aug 27 2008, 11:10 PM
I picked up a copy of
The Hoopa Project on BF Discovery Day II in Felton, and I loved reading about the incidents and sightings!
I can't wait for Mr. Paulides to write his next BF related book!
bipto
Aug 28 2008, 09:19 AM
QUOTE(Hairy Man @ Aug 28 2008, 12:00 AM)

But what if the rest of us do???
Don't ask, don't tell, babe. And I didn't ask.
nightscream
Aug 28 2008, 07:09 PM
Behold, the next generation of BF Research!
bf2004
Aug 29 2008, 01:58 AM
Here is my review: ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT!!!!!!
This book, written by former police investigator Paulides, covers a 3-year investigation into the Hoopa Reservation and town just 14 miles north of the Bigfoot Capitol of the World, Willow Creek, California. He interviews many natives of the area and has each of them sign an affidavit, attesting to each witness' truthfulness. There are photos of all the witnesses, and also of the locations these sightings took place in. An interesting note is that some of the sightings took place in the same proximity and within less than a mile from each other. The witnesses' tales are quite compelling and stark in their detail, but Paulides has gone beyond just giving witnesses' descriptions-he also brings in forensic artist Harvey Pratt, who has done quite a bit of sketch work for the FBI and Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, and did the initial sketches of the BTK Killer, the Green River Killer, Ted Bundy, Henry Lucas, Otis O'Toole and many other famous cases, and utilizes his skills in forensic art to bring a truer picture of the witnesses' sightings to life, which he does in bold detail. The Sasquatch creatures portrayed by Pratt as described by the witnesses describe a more humanlike face than apelike, whcih is quite fascinating. I highly recommend this book, which is available now at
North America Bigfoot Search and also comes with a map of Northern California reports, over 350 of them.
billgreen2005bigfoot
Aug 29 2008, 09:15 AM
hey henry (bf2004) awesome above book review of the new book called the hoopa project. good morning bill
trinity
Aug 29 2008, 09:39 AM
I’m having a hard time getting through it. There are personal comments that sometimes don’t make sense to me.
Like Dave’s story about camping at Louse, and declaring there are no Bigfoots in the Bluff Creek area.
(paraphrasing) “Maybe in the 50’s and early 60’s; certainly not now”.
Guess he doesn’t believe in Patty either….
Still reading.
trin
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 2 2008, 01:02 PM
hey everyone the auther of the new book called the hoopa project mailed me a autographed ca bigfoot sightings map in my mail today, its very informative its got a wealth of info about the ca sasquatch sightings. now im definetly forward on getting the book the hoopa project in my mail couple weeks but im very patient indeed... this map realy helped with my research it will with you all as well. yes i emailed the auther to thank him for sending me the map. good afternoon bill green

im so excited...
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 2 2008, 01:45 PM
this great auther of the hoopa project has a wonderful website about the ca sasquatch creatures sightings etc it very detailed inpressive etc like said before in my above reply im realy excited on getting copy of the new book the hoopa project in near future. the book cover that is posted above here in this great thread realy jumps out at you & it looks very strikeing indeed. i think this new book will definetly be realy worth it for anyone bigfoot-sasquatch books library. thanks bill
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 4 2008, 10:23 AM
i hope you all get this new book it realy looks like a interesting new book to read & relax with it. im hopeing to get a copy of it soon. thanks bill . again that book cover is great & realy stands out.
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 4 2008, 03:16 PM
i just finished reading the new book called the hoopa project: bigfoot encounters in california by david paulides. this is a very powerful wonderful suspenceful non stop new book about ca bigfoot sightings & histery of the hoopa indians knowing all about the sasquatch pheanomena. every chapter of this book will realy keep glued to your seat. this book has very detailed eyewittnesses sketches of sasquatch creatures and black & white photos of sightings locations & black & white & color maps of sightings locations. i give this new book A++++++. trust me this definetly a new book that should be in all researchers bigfoot books library indeed. you can get this book through the hancock house website. good afternoon bill green

this new book realy helped with my research it will help you all with your research as well. this new book is a very refreshing realy makes you understand hoopa indians sasquatch legends. it has a chapter about our goverment & bigfoot which was very interesting & detailed.
Robert
Sep 4 2008, 04:56 PM
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 4 2008, 06:24 PM
hey robert thanks again for posting the above new photo of me holding the new book called the hoopa project. bill
AlbertaSasquatch
Sep 21 2008, 06:30 PM
I'm still patiently waiting for the "Rick Noll Bubble Bath Book Club" thread. Seriously Rick, this is a great idea, but you have to have a picture of every book you read while your in the bubble bath. Seriously though, I guess you could just do the "Rick Noll Book Reviews" thread but its just not as fun as the other one. But I guess I would settle for it. Don't make me start the AlbertaSasquatch Bubble Bath Book Club because NOONE wants to see that!
billgreen2005bigfoot
Sep 23 2008, 02:58 PM
hey albertasasquatch the hoopa project is a awesome new book.

to your above reply indeedy.. thanks bill
Robert
Sep 27 2008, 07:52 AM
I'm about half way through the book and very impressed with the format. David Paulides was a police investigator and has had a lot of training and experience interrogating witnesses. He brings a level of expertise that I have not seen in any other book on this subject.
He also wisely chose an area where there is and has been the most action in the world, where nearly everyone who lives there has either seen one, heard one, or been witness to activities that can be attributed to one.
I'm curious if Longtabber or Rockinkt have any opinons on this author or the book, as they are both police investigators.
rockinkt
Sep 27 2008, 10:55 AM
I have not read this book, nor do I know anything about the author. However, IF this newspaper account is accurate and the quotes are really his words - there are enough red flags for me to give the book and the author a wide berth.
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_9893956
Robert
Sep 27 2008, 11:43 AM
What are the red flags? Other than this "The book, due for release Aug. 1, coincides with the 50th anniversary of the creature receiving the name Bigfoot." which is a promotional gimmick, what else do you see here?
I'm not an investigator, so I am not trained in looking for 'red flags' in stories, other than grammatical errors and errors in rhetoric.
longtabber PE
Sep 27 2008, 04:53 PM
QUOTE(rockinkt @ Sep 27 2008, 10:55 AM)

I have not read this book, nor do I know anything about the author. However, IF this newspaper account is accurate and the quotes are really his words - there are enough red flags for me to give the book and the author a wide berth.
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_9893956I kinda have to mirror this- its hard to say without seeing what he investigated and how he did it
Robert
Sep 27 2008, 05:01 PM
Well, he explains what he did and where he went and who he talked to quite thoroughly in the book. He had all the witnesses he interviewed sign affidavits and he took their pictures and included them at the head of each story.
But if you insist on being critical without even reading the book, go ahead, if you must.
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rockinkt
Sep 27 2008, 08:47 PM
Robert - why should I read a book that contains absolutely nothing of value to me?
He makes a lot of boastful comments - but if he has valid compelling evidence - he could pass it on to any number of scientists. He could get any number of newspapers and/or TV stations to report it. The fact that there is nothing about this book that interests anybody outside of the BF community is pretty telling.
The fact that people have signed affidavits under these conditions means nothing to me. Show me the certain negative consequences that signing those affidavits would have on those people if they were found to be lying. Is there going to legal consequesnces if they are found to be lying. No.
No consequences - no burden on the person to tell the truth in an affidavit. Sign a thousand - it makes no difference.
Besides - they could be mistaken. Group hysteria, powerful psychological forces at work regarding suggestion and social forces - Hmmm...anybody remember the "BREAKING NEWS AT PINE RIDGE" thread?
He claims to have spent 26 weeks on the reserve where everybody has seen this creature at least once. He talks about 3 years of investigation.
He spent a huge amount of time where these things are supposedly popping up everywhere. Where is his PHYSICAL evidence? Where is the hair and scat samples? DNA anybody?
Playing with anecdotal evidence and trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear is impressive to some people I guess. To me - it's just another person spinning their wheels, making lots of noise and creating a lot of smoke - and ultimately getting nowhere.
Robert
Sep 28 2008, 08:25 AM
RKT,
I'm only half way through the book. I will come back to this thread and post again, taking all that you have said here into consideration, when I have finished it.
All I can say for certainty right now is that he took the right approach by going to the area with the highest incidents of reported activity and trying to be as systematic and objective in his reports as he knew how.
If you were to pick up a copy of the book and look through it you would see what I mean. It is organized very similar to long official investigative report.
QUOTE
why should I read a book that contains absolutely nothing of value to me?
How do you know, until you actually read it?
AlbertaSasquatch
Oct 1 2008, 03:41 PM
Just got this today in the mail and I am looking forward to reading it, I flipped throught the book and the illustrations look great and the police sketch artist did a truly amazing job with the subject matter. I will let you all know what I think of the rest of the book when I am done reading it. I also would have to agree with Robert, what's the old saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover"? Or maybe that should be changed to "Don't judge a book unless you have read the damn thing!"
Robert
Oct 10 2008, 12:32 PM
I finished the book a few days ago, and have been thinking about it since, off and on.
The unique thing about it is that the author focused on one area, and used a forensic artist who worked directly with the witnesses. What came out was a very cohesive group of physical descriptions which are so similar that the creatures look like they all belong to the same family, or clan.
Any hard evidence? No. But a wealth of descriptions and some pretty unique stories.
At the end of the book he claims to be researching at a different local now, a very remote mountain cabin with BF living all around it.
damndirtyape
Oct 10 2008, 02:04 PM
After finishing the book a couple of weeks ago and thinking about it there were some unique theories presented:
1. Bigfoot is a ridge runner. They travel along ridge lines and the author sites the eyewitness testimony with in his book to back up the claim.
2. Bigfoot has little or no neck. This is an advantage against attacks from cougars since that is where they prefer to strike. I don’t think a cougar would attack an adult Bigfoot but a juvenile might be prey.
3. Bigfoot has more human traits in the area he studied. He thinks it possible that interbreeding between Bigfoot and Native Americans might have happened in the past sighting again stories from the Hoopa elders about juvenile tribal members for one reason or another being abandoned in the woods. Thus a majority of the reconstruction drawings look Native American.
4. The author mentions that the difference in views between the reconstructed drawings follows suit with those of the great apes. He makes a somewhat weird comment several times about the difference between gorillas, chimps and orangutans and how it might be the same differences between the races of the world. This is of course dead wrong; mixing races with species.
Only a hand full of affidavits were actually collected of the interviewees within the book.
For the most part the stories revolve around a couple of family members within the tribe. They do not live together but they are close on the reservation. There seems to be an equal amount of women and men who were interviewed.
I found the book unique in that it only presented eyewitness testimony of Hoopa tribal members encountering the creature over 50 or so years. He did not go into the ancestral belief structures concerning the animal. This is rare for the subject; most books do not quote Native Americans about physical experiences with Bigfoot.
I still find the maps confusing in that detail is lacking in the book but it does come with a separate fold out map that does contain all the information spoken about in the book.
All of the drawings do have a somewhat Native American look to them. Of course being described by and drawn by tribal members might be the cause but… who knows.
Is it worth the read? Yes. Is a second book warranted? Maybe but a second book should confine itself to the same area with a concerted effort towards field research, not another area, another tribe, another bunch of eyewitness testimony, affidavits and drawings.
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