Considering the advanced technology we have access to, I predict that we'll find a body in the next 10 years.



So when do you think we will finally obtain a body? (dead or alive)

At some point you have to say if it was going to happen it would've happened by now.

I'm hoping in a few years. I got into this subject after watching MonsterQuest earlier this Summer and reading Meldrum's book. I am currently reading Green's book which I got out from the university library. I don't want the mystery to end already...

Considering that there was no category for "there are no bodies to find" I had to go with the 50 year thing.

I say within the next 10 years.

Except in the grand scheme of things, we haven't been looking that long.
In another 100 years I might start to swing in the direction of your comment.

When it happens, I don't think new technology is going to play a roll.

We definitely need a 'there is no body to find' option there...

50 years and plus...in other words, probably never....we will find bones eventually but it may take along time....but a body, like the one claimed now is like a needle in a haystack, and once it is reduced to bones(few months)), you can kiss it goodbye...scattered to wind so to speak....cheers

Frankly I'd be happy with some high quality, difficult to debunk photos or film footage at this point.

I hear someone back east has some VERY good footage of a male yawning, but is waiting for more footage before they make it public. Not sure about the veracity of this info, but the person who told me is no doofus and definitely believes this is the case.

Sorry for not including a "never" option, but I can't edit the poll now. Maybe a mod can add that option?

Damn it, I'll have to go with never as well. I think that I'm finally ready to accept the fact that I am crazy. I didn't see anything in the woods, I'm just crazy. I have an appointment with the doc next week so hopefully they'll prescribe some meds and some counseling sessions to make sure I don't see anything else strange in the future.

I have been following this BF thing since the '80s and frankly I am surprised that a body has not shown up by now. It brings doubt to my encounter and all the supporting evidence that I have come to believe in......maybe there is no BF?

The only problem with poll question is, if you consider one found alive, which does occur everytime someone has an encounter, it's pointless. People ARE finding BF bodies throughout the year... they just get up and run away.

IMHO, the whole "Why haven't we found a dead body yet?" is a red herring onto itself.

Who says no one has found a body?

The REAL question is "Why hasn't somebody in the last 300 years found a dead body, recognized it for what it was (regardless of decomposition or scavenging), and had the wherewithal to drag the remains out of the woods?"

I'd wager that in the last 300 years someone HAS found a dead body and just left it there. An old time mountain man comes across a big pile of black fur and bones in the woods and says "That's weird." and just keeps on walking...

Have any of you found a dead deer in the woods? I have. Full of maggots etc. and no way was I going to touch it. The same could be true with sasquatch over the years.

tirademan

What about the "One's already been found" option? We all know the government has one they just don't want us to know about it.

I am exercising my right not to vote on this one. My reasons are personal to some degree, but if the question was phrased differently as more of a "fun" vote I might. It does sound like a 'serious' question, therefore I cannot give a 'serious' answer.

How about a vote on when "Bugs"'s map will be released to the location of the supposed bodies? That's a bit morbid as he gave specific instructions to Art Bell (who is quite old himself) not to release the map until his death, that is, unless he has a change of heart (or Art Bell, or Bug's wife goes against his wishes), I wouldn't vote on that either out of respect, but that is one big lead the BF world has. The man said way too much - he was a military man, he should have known not to speak so much. I have him narrowed down to a very specific area. I once called Texas home.

Art Bell should release it to the right people though, I believe that if their is a honest story concerning a huge BF find it was that one. Do you have any details? Any sites I can go to look up information on that incident?

never

Xion, you can listen to the whole thing on youtube.

Well once we cut down enough of the forests we will eventually find something if there is something to find.

Since I couldn't vote next tuesday at noon, I said 1 year...........

Not in my lifetime... but I hope I'm wrong.

The "why haven't we found a bigfoot body?" question has bothered me for a while as well. However, I do recall a History Channel show (maybe Monsterquest, don't remember for sure) where a large body was left in the woods (again my memory fades, a deer or something similar). A time lapse camera observed the decomposition and the entire body was gone in less than a week to virtually nothing except a few scattered bones. So maybe thats the reason we have no body. There probably aren't many Sasses and when they do die they are very remote areas.

The show you refer to was a MonsterQuest episode, about the swamp ape. They staked a deer carcass to the ground, to prevent scavengers from carrying off the carcass. Within a weeks' time, the carcass was barely recognizable as a deer carcass.

I've looked for the film footage on youtube, have been unsuccessful, so far. Still, a very eye-opening film footage.

As AlbertaSasquatch pointed out you can hear the show in its entirety on YouTube. The link is:

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user...foot%20shooting

Because it is numerically ordered, it is not in order of how it should be. I suggest keeping that page open and open each "video" in a new tab or page (it's all audio with a picture that gets a little creepy after a while).

This greatly interested me, so I did my own personal "investigation" and through various internet sources and resources narrowed down the area of where the two bodies are supposedly buried to the point where I would be confidant I could locate the site. Like I said, I'm no stranger to Texas. But under Texas law, I'm not about to mount an expedition down there and start digging; chances are I'll be shot myself. There is a bit of misinformation from "Bugs" but as a whole his story checks out as plausible, unless he is an excellent actor; you could hear the stress in his voice. He is battling with his own demons, and says he is ex-military which comes into play in how he covered it up. He almost revealed the exact location, but backed off out of fear. He thinks that he may be charged with murder and adding to his hesitance are two others persons involved (all three fired shots). The two creatures killed were supposedly quite human-looking apart from their size and basically everything else about them. With all due respect he seems to be a simple man.

My personal thoughts are if they turn out to be two gigantic humans covered with mental illness covered in hair/fur with 6 toes, he should own up to it and release the map and let the authorities deal with it. If they are two bigfeet (is that the plural?) it won't be murder.

Alas, just make sure you have time (two hours or so) as there are 14 parts to it.

There will not be a genuine body revealed to the public for a while

Yes. This was MonsterQuest and the "Swamp Beast" episode. They used a deer that was a fresh kill, I believe a vehicle vs. deer, and had a camera set up to take photographs in timed intervals. It shows how nothing even resembling an animal, let alone a good sized deer, was left. Maggots, which feed on decaying/rotting flesh (and have medical purposes because of that very fact), made short work of the deer. A lot of people who are ignorant (I do not mean this is a negative way, they just aren't familiar with science and nature) ask why dead animals are rarely found in the forest. The ecosystems have many ways of utilizing everything at its disposal, from dead animals to feed animals and insects, to the fact that you will initially see more growth in the spring (in places that freeze, North of the equator) that occurs on South-facing slopes as the sun hits those areas first. One of countless survival tricks, this one to do with navigation, is to look for the growth of moss. In Northern latitudes, the North side of rocks, trees, etc. typically will have more moss than on the South sides. The basic idea is because of the lack of enough H2O for moss to grow on sides of rocks and trees facing the South (where the Sun is strongest). Southern latitudes (below the equator) are the exact opposite. This is not always 100% correct as some forests are far too dense for sunlight to get through to make a big difference; that is where the "typically" part of my piece of science comes into play. If you are lost, try to get out of the denser areas. Being in SAR for many years I just don't want anyone to get lost

Sorry to digress from the main topic at hand, I thought since a lot of BF research is done in the back country, and since equipment and Murphy's law seem to go hand-in-hand at the most important times, any bit of info should help. Also, for those using GPS always, and I mean ALWAYS have a compass to cross check. DO NOT rely on GPS alone regardless of what anyone tells you.

Short story...during a winter exercise simulating an aircraft crash in a forest, we had a CCG officer along with us. He argued you do not need a compass with GPS and outright refused to carry a compass. Well, guess who got genuinely lost after splitting with his assigned team and forced an exercise to turn into an actual SAR Op when someone in particular failed to report back to command? You got it! The joke is he was brought in as an "expert" and was forced to leave for the remainder of the exercise (partly because of frostbite and mild hypothermia, and partly because his "expertise" could have cost him his life). The CCG has my full respect. He didn't.

I just saw that episode, and it is not true. At the 7th day most of the skeleton is still intact, and can be easily identified as a deer.
You can see it here, put the slider on 5:45.

Hi

I have seen that episode many times, Even watched in slow motion the remains wilting away, I can without a doubt if i Mr Average Guy that hikes and has never had the experience of hunting or cutting up an animal for food came across that carcass even on day 6 maybe 5, There is no way i would know what it was, If i had seen it me being me i would have poked around for a while, But my guess is most would have seen it as nasty or gross and moved on

Peace
Tim

Even if someone came across a skeleton weeks later, I would think just the sheer size of the bones should raise eyebrows. The skull alone would be enormous. Plus, it sure wouldn't look like a bear, more human I would think. jmo

A body has not been found yet and chances are one will never be found. Which brings us back to the orginal question. Hunt and kill one for the sake of science?

i think the motivation,time,resources and skills is lacking. if a billionere spent all his money and hired an army of elite outdoorsmen/ hunters with all the best equipment there is. and had a REAL go at it,, with a full green light from the authorities two things would either happen in a 5 year spann

1. a Specimen would be found. captured or shot.

2. we would come to the final conclusion that there are no such species. either they did exists but dont anymore or they never existed. period.

either way, if an operation of this magnitude was fired up. there would be an answer. one way or another. and this is what i think would be neccesary if we want the truth.

I stand corrected as to the skeletal remains. However, seven days is a drop in time comparatively speaking. But look what seven days did to that deer. What would it look like after a month? That is part of my problem with MonsterQuest - they do great things, get great results, seemingly almost find conclusive answers (except for the giant squid, that was interesting) but it's like their budget and/or time runs out. That time they were in the forest and rocks were being thrown at them (was this MQ? I forget...I think it was just a short documnetary) and one of the LEOs pulled a handgun and fired several rounds into the general direction of the "rock-thrower." Anyone (sane) playing a hoax would have stopped and identified themselves to avoid being shot, but yet they were further antagonized. Then bad weather hit and power got knocked out. Forgot that generator, eh? Why don't they get over-the-counter equipment such as nightvision that is 1st and 2nd generation military (some rival 3rd and scrape on 4th Gen when combined with an IR "flashlight") - it just seems to me when all hell breaks loose (as it has before in their episodes) and they are hot on the trail of something, these guys are totally and completely unprepared (the crew). My SAR team had a 100% success rate during my time in it both during exercises and on active SAR Ops. Granted if asked to search for bigfoot the CO would hang up on you, but get some knowledgeable big game hunters, PH's, outdoors men/women, active (not as easy) or ex-SAR, people familiar with the terrain (locals) and you would have one bloody good group of fully capable and experienced bodies.

I know some members here worked with MQ crew, and I would like to know what are they like? Just camera and boom operators? Or do they have actual experience in tough as sh*t terrain where nobody dares venture? That series irks me to a degree, and I apologize for my tirade.

Fin.

I say five years, with the moolah that the GA boobs were paid and the possibility of a lot more than that available I think there's going to be more boobs in the woods searching so they can cash in too. (That is.. if the things exist.) lol.

It would not take a billionaire. Just a bunch of experienced people as I have outlined. There would be no guarantee of answers. If the team didn't find one that does not mean the species doesn't exist. North America is a huge landmass and a group of people can only cover so much of a certain area. There are impenetrable areas like you wouldn't believe. Sitting at a computer most cannot fathom these areas as they are almost alien to what the average person has been through, where IR does you no good the forests are so dense - visibility can be as little as three feet in any given direction. Try getting through that while up to your chest in near freezing water and muskeg which smells of a thousand outhouses. Those are the times when one literally and figuratively have to go that extra mile if they are serious about searching for something.

A few months back, when I drove by my town's volunteer fire station, they had erected a big sign in the front with a cartoon thermometer indicating the level of donations they had received thus far in their quest for a new aerial ladder truck.

It's too bad we couldn't erect something similar in on the Internet to track the level of individual donations that would be needed to purchase the equipment and manpower necessary to solve this mystery.

If 500 people were even willing to chip in $25 - $100 each...granted it’s not a ton of money… but maybe we wouldn't need “the billionaire”?

With proper funding...my guess...5 years..

When a real BIGFOOT body is found it will be by accident excemped an outdoors man smells something really bad will follow the smell to its soruce to the body.Or farmer brown while working his fields could be the one who finds a body and again a family or 18 weeler truck driver one of these could hit a bigfoot theres your body either way with man deloveping wilderness a bigfoot will be found live or dead its anybodys guss.

Amen to that

Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense!