Well dude, see ya around Christmas then.

Meta data from the images match:
Nikon Coolpix L4


Image DSCN2172 was shot at 6.3mm zoom (wide angle)
Image DSCN2174 was shot at 18.9 mm (zoomed from 2172 image)

I was looking at the meta data in the JPG's. The date is off 000/01/01, typical for most folks who don't care to ever set the date, the text was added in Photoshop 7 but the first two pics say they're from a Nikon Coolpix L4 which has a 3x optical zoom as well as video. I'm trying to figure how far away you'd be. (hey look someone else just did that!)

So the video they have, was it just from the camera or did I see you talk about some HD video footage?

I also like that the file names are close together. I wonder what DSCN2173 looks like?

You sound like you think he may be gone........

SK

Not a problem, as stated earlier, with these reports and others in the Nipissing district of Ontario and the towns surrounding Lake Temagami which I found it is forested land overseen by the Canadian government including their version of parks and recs along with the local indian tribe, it would be a perfect spot for such a population. Isolated, tons of resources, little human impact until the past few years as the encounters of increased. Very, very interesting.

A ton better than stumbling onto one laying dead by the side of a creek in Georgia of all places.

Very interesting. The size comparison really tells alot.

Close up of the face and a video? Hopefully you can get those hosted as well!

That's one "harry" beast............can't wait for the video. Have you seen him yourself Tomagami, or just heard about him from your friends? Either way, thanks for sharing all of this.

There's a couple more in the vicinity..

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=11797

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/sbs/merryfield.htm

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=17214

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/sbs/J_2004.htm

Tomagami, is there any chance you can upload that video?


And nice finds Bobby. This pic was kind of interesting:



Human footprints are on the left, possible bigfoot prints on right.

I noticed that as well when he/she said it.

The "good" thing about that is, that if there was no way for him to get off the island, he is dead SOMEWHERE on that island. Maybe a body could be found? (is it too soon??!? )

Pure speculation, but maybe the ol' guy is lonely. They seem to be social animals. If he is stranded on an island....well, I'd cry too.

Thanks for these, I noticed them as well. If you plot these areas out on a map, they seem to almost circle Lake Temagami and the area just outside of the lake shores for about a distance of 100 miles or so. Plenty of range for a BF population I would think.

Digging to find out more.

Wow this is certainly more interesting than the GA boys stuff. I'm seriously considering leaving the GA thread

Certainly looks more human than ape.. I dunno, need to see all the photos first..

Where's Bill Green? Still sleeping?

Ahh thanks Tomagami, for these photos

We will need to find out what island this is. From earlier posts that Tomagami made, I swear it was stated that the island was 10 miles in area (square miles I am not sure), but maybe the 10 was supposed to be a 1.0 or 2.0 as the largest island on Lake Temagami as I stated before is Bear Island and it is 1.8 square miles.

Some friends of mine used a couple of our old ghillie suits from our service days to make a Bigfoot costume. We had to modify it greatly since the suit is designed to hide a humans profile. Had to used pads for the shoulders and allot of modifying for the arms and legs to make it tighter to get some form of definition and size ratio to make it look like a human profile. Other than that it looks like what its designed for, a lump of whatever vegetation. So I guess its definitely possible but probably easier with an already made "Bigfoot costume" to use as a base

I have an idea! Use google earth to find the island and estimate area.

That's what i was thinking Kawika, & it it would kind of coincide with my Territory ( not so much migration ) ideas i have for them too..

Just to show roughly how desolate this kind of area is :

According to the 2006 Statistics Canada Census for the Municipality of Temagami:

Population: 934
% Change (2001-2006): 4.6
Dwellings: 1325
Area (km²): 1,906.42
Density (persons per km²): 0.5

It's not a bad pic and I know not everyone's a photographer or video grapher (Manitoba Sighting anyone?) but as an avid photog I'd frickin ZOOM IN ALL THE WAY! for a pic like that and try and fill the frame. A 3x optical zoom is like the outer limits of usefulness on most cameras. You'd be just as good to use your feet and walk forward a tad than hit the zoom (and who wants to get too close to a thing like that in the woods). It doesn't appear to be zoomed in all the way though.

The snow between the camera and the subject looks pretty unspoiled (which is good) and I don't see any backpacks or people behind the thing (also good).

Very interesting picture. Definitely a practical subject, sitting there, taking up space in the universe.

Why do people do this stuff.......make a bigfoot costume. Attempt at a hoax or what? Just wondering. Try that down here in Texas and there will be a "body".........now, back to this story......this would have been a whole lot better press conf.

There are 11 photos in total a couple are blured slightly
and 15 seconds of HDV video on a hand camera. shot at the bottom
of the hill from behind the stump in a fluri by Ben.

They where there bulding tree stands and taking
photos was something they aways did after building
and to mark locations
In summer you can't see through the brush up there
it gets dense.
The BFRO completed ignored them when they called in may
and did not seem to want to listen or pursue it to strongly.
Ontariosasquatch listened.

Thank you for this post, couldn't have said it better earlier, ghilla suits are made to mimic the surrounding vegetation and hide the human profile so as not to look like a person so to make it look like a bigfoot, right, not possible, at least easily unless you really went at it for a while.

He must have a bum leg because his ankles are HUGE!

Wow. Great pics. Thanks for posting. Can't wait to see more photos and the video.

Heading out for the weekend but I am certainly going to keep checking in to see how this one unfolds!!!!

RW

The figures match human proportions except for the hands hanging downward farther. The facial proportions also seem to match human facial proportions. An unknown hominid may indeed have these similarities, but I wonder to what exactness that could hold true.

The hair seems to gather away from the body as it passes the waist, then again down the leg. This could be indicative of a two piece upper/lower construction, as the hair is longer at the bottom of a 'shirt' than it is at the top of 'pants'.

The hands being lower than a normally proportioned human could be an extension, to dispel this, the video showing hand movement would be of utmost import. The hand picture above shows a very straight extension of the fingers, odd...but it is only one point in time captured.

As for the height comparisons, the angles are very different, and the original height comparison seemed very poorly lined up (it's hard, I mean no offense).

I don't mean to be harsh with my assessment, but please understand that any potential evidence must be scrutinized to a very, very high level before it can be considered anything more than 'potential'.

I will withhold ultimate conclusion, and await further visuals.

(what a great distraction from the whole Georgia hoax, eh?)

Thanks for posting the updated census data, I posted the 2001 census data earlier.

I must correct my earlier posting as well, if you look at the sightings in this area, it is interesting. You can draw a straight line down the Trans Canadian Highway, Highway 11 from the Algonquin Provincial Park straight north to Lake Temagami.

Distance, 505 km or 313.8 miles, over 7 hours driving distance. Huge area and with the Algonquin Provincial Park encompassing 7,630 square km or 4,741 square miles, that is a huge area for a population to dwell.

To me, the subject of the photos look totally fake, but hey I've never seen one so what do I know? Also, it is pretty clear that the subject is quite a bit larger than the man in the edited comparison photo. I guess it's just something about the face, arms, and how the fur is laying that rubs me the wrong way. Whatever the case, I'd love to see the ALL the photos as well as the video, (As I'm sure everyone would) because that's the best way that we can fully comprehend this. Thanks!

I don't want to rain on anyones parade... but a few questions have to be answered first for me...

How and Why were these photos released to the poster in question?

How or where are these additional photos being "retrieved" from?

Why was this specific person chosen to be the recipient of the photos? And why was this site chosen for the leak?

Is there a correlation between the timing of this "revelation" with respect to the GA shennanigans earlier today?

Listen, Ill be the first to tell you that these photos are VERY intirguing, but I think we need to take a step back and let the poster, or even the person behind the photos, speak up to these reasonable questions...

It appears to me that he is grabbing on to the laydown branch with his left hand.........maybe someone can zoom on some fingers.

Thank you for the analysis plaidlemur.




Amen to that!

To get a better understanding of why people do hoax. To experience first hand how hard it is and how capable you have to be to make a decent Bigfoot suit. (Which I admit ours was not very good at all) We never hoaxed anyone nor did we ever have the intention. This is our hobby and in a hobby you like to experience different aspects of that hobby (that doesn't include hoaxing or hurting anyone). Same thing as putting model boats together, doesn't mean you gonna go sailing on them. Though I seriously doubt people in Texas just go around shooting anything that they don't recognize. Hope I answered your question.

I agree this would have been a much better press conf.

To answer one of your quetions; only because it was addressed when this thread first started (either on page one or two) the reason why Tomagami came to the BFF from my understanding; and I actually did find the darn post earlier but can't seem to right at this moment, he was actually commenting on the Scientific American piece about Dr. Walldrum's comments and was told by someone to come over to the here to BFF where there was discussions on this topic.

I remember seeing him pop in yesterday at some point when this all started over here.

Depends on if your in East Texas or not!! Just wondering about the suit making. That makes sense to me and "to each his own".

If they are fake then we have reached a whole new level of fake. I would love to be able to see them all, video included, then it will be picked apart, beat down, and over analyized. If they are real then they will hold up to the scrutiny. I am thankful that he is posting them and admit to being a bit gullable but they are very good photos and just creep me out a bit. Really need some sleep but I am afraid I will wake up to 200 pages to read.

There seems to be a some of movement on the part of the photographer between pictures DSCN2172 and DSCN2174 (as well as the 2nd being zoomed in a bit). I can't match the orange yellow leaves on the right in the 2nd photo to anything in the first. Trying for a better angle? The first one seems to catch the subject looking, and the next it's looking away.

Would you stand and snap away if you got a good angle? Or would you walk around? I'd be staying put to be quiet. Any good pics I have of deer and the like it's when I'm stock still. They sometimes look up when they hear the shutter.

Maybe the subject is more the worse for wear and is not acting like it normally would.

I'd love to see the others.

What does everyone think about the creature's fur? Synthetic or not?

And remember these two guys were hunters and probably were armed if this was real. No wonder hunters who've claimed to have them in their sights and can't pull the trigger don't shoot because it does look "somewhat " human and harmless..............I'm a hunter and I don't think I could do it....but dang, i'd be havin to change my drawers after seeing this!

Lol, only have experience in Houston. I for one don't have the Patience to pull off the incredible work that you would have to commit to for a decent hoax. That was the only time I was involved in suit making. We worked incredibly hard and wasted allot of time and that suit was no where near good enough. That gave me a knew outlook and perspective on things such as the Patterson film.

I'm not ready to say whether the hair is synthetic, but what kind of shoulder pads is he wearing? lol.

Yak fur is always good! I dunno. I don't like the shoulders. They seem a bit high. I've made a bigfoot suit (it's the one in my avatar pic) and I made a Fat suit to go underneath it. Nothing like a water bag, but I padded it up quite a bit. At first I had shoulder-pads like a football player to make it look more muscular, but it had the adverse effect of making the neck disappear, and the head look too short so I cut them down a bit. Although, a Gorilla's jaw will collide with it's shoulder when it turns it's head and Patty does a whole upper torso turn when she looks at Patterson so, ya never know!.

I'm excited to get to work with almost untouched high-rez jpg, save for the text. You almost never get to do that. Thanks to Tomagami for that.

If the pics are legit, then there must be bigfoot subspecies as this creature looks quite different from patty.

Even IF this is fake, with regards to my postings; and those of others, on sightings in the area in and around Lake Temagami and this area of Ontario Canada along with the Nipissing district, there could very well be a population here. There are many favorable factors at play that could support this theory.

Here are some more BF sightings/reports from Ontario, Canada: http://www.gcbro.com/CAontdb.html

I think we shoud really open our minds to the possibility that with the reports through links myself and others have posted, the information on the terrain, resources, etc. in this area, it could be very likely there is a BF population.

There apparently has not only been logging in this area over the years, but also minning. With those areas now abandonned, could they have been resettled by BF?

Well it " looks " like a Male, pretty Harry Henderson ish...

Is this location near where the History Channel filmed that one MonsterQuest episode (Sasquatch Attack)?

That is so cool! ME too. I've made two Bigfoot movies (one's still in editing, they are just amateur stuff for the Internet for Geocaching) and in making up the suit three years ago, it gives you a few things to look for, like if it's a 2 piece, one piece, removable hands and feet, the different head options. It's not as easy as skeptics say it is, and pretty easy to spot as a fake. Stills are easier but for video, trying to get the actor inside to walk like Patty is quite the task!

Listening to Bob H's claims of the horse suit with the football helmet are laughable to say the least.

Not sure where that one was filmed, but Lake Temagami to give you some perspective, is 450 km/279.6 miles due north of Toronto, Canada straight up Highway 11 or the Trans Canadian Highway.

This figure is like the seven chute figure
www.haveyouseenthiscreature.com

So how many pics and did someone say there is a video.

I have never seen these before, it goes to show you what some people are sitting on as far a pics and video. Gotta wonder what else it out there in a trunk or closet....

Dang Zartimus.....your bigfoot costume in your avatar looks alot better than the one in the freezer........you ain't from Georgia or ya? I guess I need a new hobby.........but I swear, make a bigfoot costume in Texas and well..........there's a reason they invented "hunter orange"...

zartimus, where can we see more pics of the suit you made. I really like the shot in your avatar, there's something kind of sexy about it