anttracker
Aug 4 2008, 12:11 PM
Hello everyone, it's been a long time since I have been here. I would like to know if anyone here has or if anyone they know has seen or heard of any activity inside the The Flume Gorge at Franconia Notch in The White Mountains? Details forth coming
Lab Lover
Aug 4 2008, 02:42 PM
White Mts where? Western Nevada?
ganglian
Aug 4 2008, 06:37 PM
QUOTE(Lab Lover @ Aug 4 2008, 02:42 PM)

White Mts where? Western Nevada?
Vermont
bipedalist
Aug 4 2008, 06:45 PM
Hey there is still alot of wilderness around NH, like Great Gulf Wilderness area and others, why not?
RedRatSnake
Aug 4 2008, 06:55 PM
Hi
White Mountains of NH, Remember the old man of the mountain, Poor guy finally fell off

I have heard nothing about BF lately, I have always wondered why no BF sightings, The place seems to be perfect
http://nhparks.state.nh.us/state-parks/alp...tch-state-park/ Peace
Tim
anttracker
Aug 5 2008, 04:23 PM
My wife and children and I were up their 7/30/08 and we found definitive tracks going into the Flume. I have pics that I will be posting as soon. There was no doubt in my mind or my wifes what they are from. My oldest daughter was freaking out and my youngest thought it was pretty cool. They measured 16 to 17 inches long and were 8" wide and almost 2" deep. The rulwer my daughter had only went to 12" but you can clearly see how long/deep they are. I'm having a disk made and as soon as I get it ( Thursday ) I will post them. My copmuter is down and I'm writing this on a public one so I didn't want to have to download every pic and then sort. TTYS.
RedRatSnake
Aug 5 2008, 06:04 PM
Hi
Sounds pretty good, I would love to see something from NH,
Peace
Tim
BigNY
Aug 7 2008, 07:16 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing something from NH either....would make for a great road trip.
eldonkey
Aug 7 2008, 08:27 PM
I thought you meant the White Mountains in Arizona....
RedRatSnake
Aug 7 2008, 08:42 PM
QUOTE(eldonkey @ Aug 7 2008, 10:27 PM)

I thought you meant the White Mountains in Arizona....
Hi
Hey ! ! Go get your own BF, We hardly ever get one around here in Upper New England
Peace
Tim
ganglian
Aug 8 2008, 07:56 AM
QUOTE(bipedalist @ Aug 4 2008, 06:45 PM)

Hey there is still alot of wilderness around NH, like Great Gulf Wilderness area and others, why not?
Having done research in the Adirondacks nearby, and even further South, you have no idea no right you are.
Did I say Vermont, thats what I get for going on coffee and checking in on BFF early. >DOH!<
That whole corridor really from the Tunxis Trail watershed in central Ct up to the Appalachian trail into the Berkshires and up into Upstate NY is way more covered in forest than lost of people seem to think. If the big guy is a wandering sort that's a pretty good route to follow. That's how we got a bear and moose population here in CT and with the over abundance of deer we now have sightings of mountain lions. BF in this here part of the country seems more plausible now than it has in a century.
bipedalist
Aug 8 2008, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(RedRatSnake @ Aug 4 2008, 08:55 PM)

Hi
White Mountains of NH, Remember the old man of the mountain, Poor guy finally fell off

I have heard nothing about BF lately, I have always wondered why no BF sightings, The place seems to be perfect
http://nhparks.state.nh.us/state-parks/alp...tch-state-park/ Peace
Tim
Hey, at least they got that NH quarter stamped before the old guy disintegrated, man they would have had to have made that planchet/die from a picture instead of the real thing.
Reminds me of another idea, why don't we get a contest going to have somebody carve one of these great granite monadnocks with a Bigfoot profile, ala Lee, Jackson--Stone Mtn. GA and Mt Rushmore
(or maybe just jumping ahead carve a Whitton and Dyer alongside BF after they claim the big prize)
Teresa
Aug 8 2008, 08:17 PM
All we need is the bigfoot
Dogfoot
Aug 9 2008, 10:31 AM
There have been sightings psted (in BFRO?) about sightings in the WMNF on the Kancamagus Hwy, which runs W-E from Lincoln to Conway just south of the Flume. In fact, in the 70s, there was a LOT of talk in the hiker/camper community about BF in that area, and in the Wilderness immediately to its N. There was some work done on recording (BF?) calls in the Kanc campgrounds at that time.
http://www.byways.org/explore/byways/2458/The Skoocumchuck trail, which also heads up the Franconia Ridge a few miles N of the Flume, may have been so named from early BF sightings in the area. Anything is possible - these are the mountains of Hawthorne.
http://hikethewhites.com/skookumchuck/index.htmlSince the Flume is a part of Franconia Notch State Park, and a 'touist attraction' that charges admission, it is at first strange to hear that BF would be there. Then again, the WMNF are 'tight', and very accessable from the roads.
http://www.visitnh.gov/flume/index.htmlThere have been sightings in the Great Gulf along the N Presidential range. There was a 'ghost' story that I posted somewhere on this forum that occured there.
http://www.alpinezone.com/hiking/01images/...rthernpeaks.JPGskiing it?
http://timefortuckerman.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8355
bipedalist
Aug 9 2008, 12:26 PM
Thanks for the url's, its 46 deg., 21 mph wind with a 39 wind chill, fog and 100% humidity on Mt. Washington right now for those in the summer heat.
anttracker
Aug 13 2008, 10:01 AM
Here are some pics of the tracks. I hope...
anttracker
Aug 14 2008, 10:35 AM
OK.......the pics didn't come through, can someone help me do this.
plaidlemur
Aug 14 2008, 02:35 PM
anttracker,
first, upload the pictures to a photo sharing site, such as www.photobucket.com.
second, copy the url of the photo you uploaded to photobucket that is under the picture in your account.
third, paste that url in your post with the img tags attached, or just the url in the pop-up box after you press the image button above the posting box.
hope that helps.
RedRatSnake
Aug 14 2008, 04:08 PM
Hi
I draw all my pictures right onto the screen free hand with Patience and cunning skill, Of course you can't see them cause there on my side, But they look good let me tell ya!
Sample
Peace
Tim
northpack
Aug 17 2008, 11:43 AM
hey anttracker. i would love to see those pics. i will be going there later this summer or early fall.
redtail
Aug 25 2008, 07:08 AM
Hi all, this is my first post.
There are as many tales of old coming out of the northeast forests as there are anywhere else. Northern NH and Maine both have produced their share of classic bigfoot stories going back a century or more, with the lore of forested areas to avoid because of the wild apemen that live there. In more recent times, there have been a few scattered reports coming out of the same area. There are some very remote areas up there that would take more than a day just to hike in to, and in fact there is at least 1 tale coming from a seasoned, multi generational outdoorman type who now refuses to go back into a certain area of Maine because of the bigfoot encounter he had the last time he was out there a few years back. typical usual stuff, in other words. About 20 years ago, maybe 25 now, a life long hunter in Salisbury NH, a man who knows the forests as well as anyone else, had a daylight encounter with a very tall hairy apeman in a meadow while deer hunting. He went public, and to this day has an impeccable reputation as far as his character and standing in the community go. Most of the tales from this area are not well reported as most people would rather be left alone, and most people who see unusual creatures choose to keep things quiet. We are another state that officially has no cougar population, even though there are 100s of cougars seen during the year, for example.
I have never heard much from the White Mountain area, but I sure agree that it is a perfect area for it. Something like 85% of NH is forested land. I am a life long resident of NH.
Anttracker, if you email me the pics I will upload them into this thread for you.
northpack
Aug 25 2008, 08:21 AM
great nh info redtail. welcome to the bff!
plaidlemur
Aug 25 2008, 01:01 PM
Welcome redtail! Good info on our wicked awesome state (lol). Always good to see another New Hampshirite here.
The old-timers in the north of the state call our bigfoots 'Wood Ape', 'Wood Devils', 'Indian Devils', or 'Pomoola'. There are stories that go back to the colonial period, and I remember seeing a great Vermont newspaper story (non-sensational) from the early(?) 1800's.
People often dismiss New England as a potential habitat (very wrongly) because of the clear cutting of the area in the 1800's. Northern New England, especially Maine remained heavily forested (about 20% of the total area of New England), and has never had a large population density. The reforestation also began almost as quickly as deforestation did, and there was only about a three generation timespan between the two. Granted, the virgin old growth was mostly gone, but there were many areas that remained, if not untouched, viable habitat for bear, moose, deer, and other megafauna (over 100 lbs.). Much of the deforestation was 'soft' deforestation, as opposed to what people picture deforestation as--clearcut, or 'hard' deforestation (which there was as well for farm pasture). Many of those species suffered, but they quickly rebounded--and the 'Wood Ape' would probably be no different.
Texas Bigfoot
Aug 25 2008, 02:46 PM
So NH has good woodlands and no state sales tax? Why wouldn't BF want to move there?
redtail
Aug 25 2008, 04:38 PM
Ah, yes, the wood Devils. They could stand still and you'd mistake them for a tree. They would skirt around a tree keeping you 180 degrees away and unable to see them as you walked right by them. So said the Indians who lived here. Some of the "wood Devil" stuff has a familiar ring to it....
Actually there are some stories from the north woods that are from the logging camp days, when there were rails from the paper mills that went up into the forests around Berlin and other logging towns, say 70 years to a century ago. There were a lot of men from Quebec, and some Abenaki's too, working those camps. The stories of apemen and areas far off the trail, places no man would go, have been passed down. The Rangley lakes figure into this, and the fishing camps of the now legendary brook trout fishery that was once there. I have heard tales told by people in their 80s about grandfathers who when they were young boys ran into apemen while chasing bluebacks and trout along mountain brooks and ran for their lives, showing up at the homestead hysterical. There is a report I have twice heard of a small group of hunters being followed one fall day long ago, in the 1920s, up the trail to Old Speck Mountain, and the pond up there where they were going to set a deer camp, by a large, hairy, man-like creature. The people who told me were told by the men there, and they obviously believe what they were told by the men, who were their own elders. They never made it to their camp and they never went back up there again either, so something sure spooked them. But, its all really hearsay and I can't really vouch for any of it other than to say I heard these things, and more, and no doubt there are a lot of other old tales I 'll never hear, passed down only within families if at all.
If you want to have some fun, find a book called "passing strange" by Joe Citro. There is a lot in there about New England UFOs, or ghosts and such, but there is also quite a bit of very well written stuff about cryptozoololgy and the various creatures seen in New England, some of which is recent enough so that the witnesses are still here, and were interviewed for the book. Some of it frankly sounds rather terrifying, and I am glad I never saw some of the stuff described in the book. And 1 or 2 of the tales would fit the bill nicely right here within this forum. I have no stake in it, I have spoken with Joe Citro once several years ago but I doubt he even remembers me. It is an excellent, and very interesting read.
Dogfoot
Aug 27 2008, 03:47 PM
What was the town in NH where that fellow refuses to re-enter the woods?
Didn't BFRO sponsor an expedition near Old Spec in Maine this past June??
I found 5 books by Citro in the town library, but NOT the one mentioned here.
Just back from a week in Moosebutt Maine, and will write-up our interesting experiences. Definately more moose than people, and NOTHING but trees for a 100 miles north to the Canadian border. Driving the 'main drag' at dusk was a slalom course with wandering moose.
lily
Oct 29 2008, 10:08 AM
Was anybody ever able to help anttracker with his pix? I sure would like to see them!
Digger44
Nov 15 2008, 04:49 PM
QUOTE(Dogfoot @ Aug 9 2008, 11:31 AM)

The Skoocumchuck trail, which also heads up the Franconia Ridge a few miles N of the Flume, may have been so named from early BF sightings in the area. Anything is possible - these are the mountains of Hawthorne.
Sorry, but the Skoocumchuck trail and river were certainly are not related to BF. The meaning of the eastern native languages is far different from the western native languages. The NH indians used the name for the "troubled waters" of the river which meant they had good whitewater. It has nothing to do with Sasquatch. I know you said "may" have been, but that isn't even possible if you study NH indians.
ganglian
Nov 15 2008, 11:32 PM
QUOTE(Digger44 @ Nov 15 2008, 05:49 PM)

Sorry, but the Skoocumchuck trail and river were certainly are not related to BF. The meaning of the eastern native languages is far different from the western native languages. The NH indians used the name for the "troubled waters" of the river which meant they had good whitewater. It has nothing to do with Sasquatch. I know you said "may" have been, but that isn't even possible if you study NH indians.
Okay, but it's also not that far away from the bridgewater triangle or 'ol slippery skin.
RedRatSnake
Nov 16 2008, 11:40 AM
Hi
Here is a map of the New England Area for reference
Peace
Tim
Digger44
Nov 19 2008, 10:00 AM
QUOTE(ganglian @ Nov 16 2008, 12:32 AM)

Okay, but it's also not that far away from the bridgewater triangle or 'ol slippery skin.
lol have you ever been to NH or are you just typing out of your wazoo? I suppose Sassy could have driven or thumbed from Bridgewater to Northern NH.
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