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'Yeti hairs' examined
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Technician John Wells looks at the hairs through a microscope as Anna Nakaris, anthropolgist, and Ian Redmond, primatologist, look on

By Andrew Ffrench

The hunt for the mysterious Yeti - otherwise known as the Abominable Snowman - has frustrated scientists for decades.

Yesterday, scientists at Oxford Brookes University joined in the hunt after being given a number of hair strands taken from what is purported to be a Yeti-like creature in India.

The Brookes boffins used high-powered microscopes to analyse the samples found in the West Garo jungle of the north-eastern state of Meghalaya.

They compared the suspected Yeti strands to samples taken from primates, bears, dogs, yaks and humans, which were provided by the Natural History Museum in Oxford.

After the microscope tests have been carried out, the hairs will be sent away to a laboratory for DNA testing.

Dr Anna Nekaris, of the university's anthropology department, said: "It's exciting to be asked to take part in this research.

"We put the hairs in clear nail varnish because that helps us to see them more clearly under the microscope.

"Hair cuticle patterns differ greatly from species to species when you look at them under a microscope.

"If we look closely at the specimens we have from the alleged Yeti we can see if they are identical to a primate or a dog or a bear.

"If it is a primate we can't identify, then that would be an interesting first step."

Dr Nekaris was joined by leading primatologist Ian Redmond OBE, whose book The Primate Family Tree is out later this year.

He said: "If these hairs do turn out to come from a Yeti then I will have to quickly update my book.

"Recently a new species of macaque monkey was discovered in India and new species of primates are being discovered every year.

"It may be that the region this animal is inhabiting is remote enough for it to remain undiscovered so far."

The little known Indian version of the legendary ape-like creature is called mande barung - or forest man - and the black and grey animal is thought to stand about 10ft tall.

The hair was discovered earlier this year by BBC reporter Alastair Lawson, who went on an expedition to find the animal after a number of reported sightings.

A forestry officer had seen the creature in the same location and gathered the hair from the area where it had been standing.

Mr Lawson brought the hair back to England to be analysed and contacted Mr Redmond, who then linked up with scientists at Oxford Brookes.

Mr Lawson said: "The forestry officer said he had seen the Yeti two days in a row and persuaded a zoologist to come with him to collect the hairs.

"I'm not convinced that the Yeti exists, but we might have come across a primate that has not been discovered before.

"You have to bear in mind that the legend of the Yeti is a large part of the people's culture in this region and those traditions are deeply respected.

"The Gaza correspondent Alan Johnston was once given hairs in Pakistan which were thought to have been taken from a Yeti and they turned out to be hairs from a goat's scrotum."

About the Yeti The Yeti is an apelike animal said to inhabit the Himalaya region of Nepal and Tibet.

The scientific community has largely dismissed the Yeti as a fraud but it remains one of the most famous creatures of cryptozoology, the study of uncomfirmed animals.

The Yeti was dubbed the Abominable Snowman in 1921 after an Everest expedition found large footprints at 21,000ft. Sir Edmund Hillary also reported large footprints on Everest in 1953.

In December last year, American TV presenter John Gates reported finding 33cm-long footprints in the Everest region of Nepal.

Bigfoot, sometimes known as Sasquatch, is an alleged ape-like creature said to inhabit the Pacific northwest region of the United States and the Canadian province of British Columbia.

Alleged witnesses have described large eyes, a pronounced brow ridge, and a large, low-set forehead.
Ronnie Bass
Very interesing, hope the DNA test take long to conduct as they usually do.
WmRoy
Interesting for sure............
RayG
Shouldn't they wait to say things until AFTER they have examined the hairs and reached a conclusion?

RayG
tugboatwa
From the The Independent
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Bigfoot: New evidence

Hairs found in Indian jungle are of 'no known species' say scientists


By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor - Sunday, 27 July 2008

It is right up there with the Loch Ness monster: the subject of claimed sightings, passionately promoted by believers, dismissed by the scientific community. But now experts say they have found the best evidence to date that the yeti might – just conceivably – be real.

Tests at Oxford Brookes University on hairs which local people believe came from a yeti in an Indian jungle have failed to link them with any known species and are said to bear "a startling resemblance" to those brought back from the Himalayas by Sir Edmund Hillary half a century ago.

Ape expert Ian Redmond, who is co-ordinating the research, said: "The hairs are the most positive evidence yet that a yeti might possibly exist, because they are tangible. We are very excited about the preliminary results, although more tests need to be done."

The two short hairs – 33mm and 44mm long – were picked up in thick forest in the Garo hills in the mountains of north-east India five years ago after a forester reported seeing a yeti – locally known as mande barung, or "forest man" – for three days in a row breaking branches off trees and eating their sap.

The hills are one of several places in the world where similar creatures – Bigfoot in the US, the sasquatch in Canada, the sajarang gigi in Indonesia, and the yeti in Nepal – are part of local legend and from where occasional sightings are reported.

After being brought to Britain, the hairs were magnified up to 200 times, and one of them was cast in varnish to make a better two-dimensional image. They were then compared with hairs from animals known to live in the hills. "We fully expected them to come from a known animal," said Mr Redmond. "We failed to find that. So the mystery remains and we go on to the next stage of investigation."

The hairs will now be examined under an even more powerful microscope and sent to two different laboratories – in Oxford and Cardiff – for DNA testing. Follicles containing cells remain on the base of the hairs, said Mr Redmond, "so there is every chance that we will be able to get even closer to the truth".

If DNA analysis cannot identify the creature, it should be able to work out what it is related to, he explained. "It could easily be an unknown primate, even if it is not a yeti."

People in the Garo Hills believe that the yeti exists, and there have been repeated reported sightings of the creatures and their footprints, including by such famous mountaineers as Lord Hunt, who led the Everest expedition.
Ronnie Bass
I think one thing we need to keep in mind is this and I got it from Tug's OP:

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"Recently a new species of macaque monkey was discovered in India and new species of primates are being discovered every year."


It could easily be another monkey or animal undiscovered and not cataloged and not a Yeti.

But still like I said very interesting.
wiiawiwb
How would DNA be able to conclude that the hair came from a Yeti ? Wouldn't it only be able to conclude that it didn't come from any known primate?
Ronnie Bass
It can't, the best I think it can do is determine that it came from an unknown species to man, but it does in a small make the case for the existence of the yeti a bit stronger but it's really far from groundbreaking because like I said it could be another primate such as small monkey. But I'm no DNA expert so I'm sure - and hope - someone can answer this better than me.
Bitter Monk
So far they've only done morphological testing. The DNA testing will be able to shed much more light on the subject. There is no "unknown primate" so to speak. A full DNA sequence will be able to tell the lab where in the tree of life the sample originates, even if there isn't a current match for it.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey everyone very interesting new article & new thread about yeti hairs. thanks bill smile.gif
yetti
If yeti is a hominid how different from human DNA can be his DNA if chimpanzees DNA differs from human only with 1 % ? thanks Jan
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