Spinlok
Jul 8 2008, 05:11 PM
While I'm really into Bigfoot, I'm also into movies and I hope to be a film maker one day. I'm surprised no one's made a really good, scary movie on Bigfoot. Just Harry and the Hendersons which was a comedy. Anyways, here's my idea.
The movie will be a SCARY suspencful movie. It'll have similar elements to Jaw, Signs, and the Village. Keep in mind, this is a rough overview of the plot so not many details have been laid out like names and some plot points.
The story takes place in a small little town somewhere in the Pacific Northwest that borders a huge lake and a national park. While its a little town, it recieves a great amount of tourists that camp in the national park and swim/fish in the large lake. BF is a great part of its culture because of the amount of sightings every year.
Suddenly, an innocent girl has been found murdered and ripped to shreds. There is great confusion to what killed her, because she has animal bite marks on her that were made at the time of the muder, yet she also seems to be beaten to death. This causes a great stir in the town because they fear tourism will drop and that the fall festival is coming up. Strange noises are emitting from the forrests alot more than usual.
The main character is a young park ranger who has just moved into the town and lives at the edge of the forrest. He begins to investigate the murder and notices an increasing number BF sightings. A cryptzooligist visits the town to investigate and peaks the interest of the main character. Soon he becomes obsessed with everyting related to BF. The crypzooligist also questions why BF, usually a peaceful creature, is killing people.
Suddenly a couple more murders breakout and panic grips the town. The city officials bring in skeptics to debunk BF and calm the hysteria ( and hope to bring the scared tourists back), causing the cryptzooligist to go on a tirade.
Soon, even more murders happen and livestock are killed. The main character also hears strange noises in the forrest and bipedal footsteps in his backyard at night. A hunter comes forward and explains that before all this happened, he shot at a few BFs in teh forrest and thinks they're retaliating out of fury. The city officials declare that if they want them to take BF seriously, someone must go out and get good evidence.
So the main character, the crypzooligist, and a few other characters I have left to develope go out to a cabin on a rual side of the lake that has had large amounts of BF sightings ( guess where I got this idea from? ). They decide to stay out there for two months. They endure horrifying nights of attacks by BFs and they manage to get a good video of one. Things suddenly go awry and they have no way to contact home ( they were taken there by pontoon plane ). So they decide to take the long trek through the forrest home.
They all get seperated somehow ( have yet to decide how ) till the main character is left on his own. He spends cold dark nights by himself hearing spooky howls in the distance. Then one day he notices he's being stalked. Then he's suddenly attacked by a huge, black, BF ( in all of its realistic CGI glory ) and gets the crap beaten out of him. He somehow finds a way to kill the BF and makes it back to town alive.
I still have yet to come up with a better ending, but it'll come to me.
Anyways, please tell me what you think!
seph
Jul 8 2008, 07:19 PM
Interesting idea. You should consider writing a book or screenplay since that is what most movies are based on.
Here's another plot idea.
Take the same small town. This town is totally dependent upon tourism and hunters. It is a well known BF hotspot so it attracts a wide range of big spending hunters/film makers. A hunter way out in the boonies actually shoots and kills a BF and notifies the local game warden via long range radio. He is requesting assistance to remove his prey as he is too far into the woods to move the 8 foot, 500 lb creature himself. The game warden says he'll see if he can't get a helicopter out to help. The game warden then notifies the mayor and an emergency town meeting is held.
With the mystery being solved about BF in the form of the hunter's successful shot, the town leaders decide drastic measures must be taken. They send the helicopter up but rather than lending aid to the hunter, they murder him and bury him and his evidence. They figure a missing hunter will only add to the mystique surrounding the town.
The hunter's family sends out missing persons reports and family members arrive in the small town to see if they can find out what happened to the hunter. The townspeople play dumb (insert scenes from The Wickerman here [the original, not the remake]) and the story goes on.
The moral is that the townspeople are willing to do anything to keep the BF mystery a mystery. Their livelihood depends on it.
Would be more of a drama than a horror.
RedRatSnake
Jul 8 2008, 08:56 PM
Hi
Since there are already a few scary BF movies out there, Like Clawed, I would love to see a movie about the big guy shot as if someone was following him around for a few days and watching what a Big foots life would be like, Sure you can throw in a few road crossings to liven it up but a good look into what is already known would be cool, There are a lot of great folks that have had some pretty cool sightings and encounters that would make for a great reenactment,
Peace
Tim
Data
Jul 9 2008, 05:10 PM
Hi Spinlok.
Your Story:
Sorry, but it sounds b-movie style. Its just Jaws BF style, and Jaws was great some decades ago.
Try to start at the beginning. Don´t adopt some existing plot. At least not a to well known. Also at the end keep BF a secret, it would be better the protagonist dies in the woods.
Whats maybe a good story is the Patty-BF massacer. There would be a real life connection (in some way), thats always good.
Start with a hunter and his dog walking the site today and the dog finds a bone, wich he brings to the hunter, who throuws it away. Funny if he is wearing a BF related T-shirt.
Then fade to the past, where Petterson and Gimlin plus one or two guys, of which one is the protagonist, check their equipment and start the expedition.
Then the broadly discussed massacer story, where your protagonist is the shooter/killer. Due to him beeing a "murder" they swear to keep it a secret and never ever meet or contact each other in the future, if the film doesn´t get anybody permission to hunt the creature. By law.
Than cut back to today where the hunter and his dog leave the site, and the now old killer (looking like a bum) peeks at them from behind a bush "securing the site"
FIN
The massacre story should be changed so that they first film patty and some days later is the shooting, so it fits the classic film model better.
The bum-style of the killer discribes his inner struggle with what he has done (he nomore can life a usual live), and him triing to compensate his act by being at a deathwatch of some kind.
CU
Spinlok
Jul 9 2008, 06:01 PM
Thanks for the feedback!
seph:Interesting idea. However, the main reason why the town officials are motivated to debunk BF is simply because they don't believe in it and they're upset that the mass hysteria is making the town lose tourists. Then it becomes kind of a belief morale story sort of like Close Encounters, but the message is more along the lines of "if you refuse to believe something even when its staring you in the face, the consiquences will be terrible."
redratsnake: Don't worry, I have TONS of ideas for scary scenes. Most of them are inspired by many BF reports I've read. Like that one incident in Ohio where a woman saw a BF staring at her through a window. In the movie while they're at the cabin, the main character looks at a window and sees a BF staring at him through the cabin widow with big bloodshot eyes, baring its teeth, its hideous face full of rage. Then the music creciendos (sp?) making the audience jump out of their seats.
Data: I know it sounds sort of B-movieish but I'd take every liberty to make it not so. I'd use Shymalan-esque cinematography, moody music, and eerie scenes. Not to mention good acting. I'd also take great liberties to portray the BFs as realistic animals rather than monsters and I would include typical BF behavior such as wood knocking, the sceams they make, samurai chatter, etc. And I know the story is rather too similar to Jaws, but if I bounced around some ideas with other writers that would change I think. Keep in mind, its just a rough draft.
BTW, I have actually considered making a bio-topic movie about Patterson filming the BF and how it affected his life afterwards. That would make a great movie, but I'd rather do my movie idea because quite frankly its more exciting.
Please keep the comments coming!
JonZ
Jul 9 2008, 08:16 PM
Write your stories, and make your movies. The best "Sasquatch" related movie I've seen is still Peter Cushing's "The Abominable Snowman" from the 50's. I tried to watch "Strange Wilderness the other evening, what an awful, awful movie. I called Dish and told them I wanted my money back.
As far as Bigfoot fiction is concerned I've read two good "young adult" books, over the years to my students, one was "The Boy Who Saw Bigfoot", the second (the name of which I can't remember) has another "teen", an FBI agent (I think) and D.B. Cooper and deals with Bigfoot living in the lava caves around St. Helens before the eruption (I think). The FBI agent is closing in on Cooper, the boy is friends with Cooper and Cooper introduces the kid to Bigfoot. (I think, we'll say I've paraphrased that.)
Jon
RedRatSnake
Jul 9 2008, 08:48 PM
QUOTE(Spinlok @ Jul 9 2008, 08:01 PM)

redratsnake: Don't worry, I have TONS of ideas for scary scenes. Most of them are inspired by many BF reports I've read. Like that one incident in Ohio where a woman saw a BF staring at her through a window. In the movie while they're at the cabin, the main character looks at a window and sees a BF staring at him through the cabin widow with big bloodshot eyes, baring its teeth, its hideous face full of rage. Then the music creciendos (sp?) making the audience jump out of their seats.

Hi
But, But, I was pointing at making a movie about BF and his life , Not a bunch of scary stuff with teens screaming and getting torn up, We have seen all that so many times, Sooo many Times, A challenge would be to put together a movie that had many real encounters while using all the knowledge and evidence to piece together a possible way of life
Peace
Tim
Spinlok
Jul 9 2008, 09:11 PM
Who said it would be teens getting torn up? lol I'm thinkin more along the lines of regular hunters, fishermen, campers, innocent civillians, etc. And they won't just be torn up, the victims get beaten to death with branches that BFs use, bitten, scratched, punched down with their fists, and occasionally some limbs torn off. Which is what perplexes the villagers, it appears as if they'd been murdered by another human but signs also show that an animal killed them. And the deaths won't be shown ( except the first one ), they just find the bodies left at the edge of the forrest.
Here's how I'd set up the first death: An expendable character gets seperated from his/her party in the woods and gets lost at night. He/she hears bipedal footsteps in the distance as all the nature around goes silent. Thinking it to be a fellow human, he/she calls to it and it stops. Then it suddenly charges forward through the bush ( not visible ) and the character screams as the camera pulls back and shows the brush moving violently as the character screams bloody murder until *CRUNCH* and silence. The character's party hears her screams and goes to look for him/her. They then hear a horrendous, bloody curtling howl made by the BF and they run off into the night in a panic. They contact the police about the incident the next day and they find the mangled body at the edge of the woods with the injuries I listed above, and they find it odd that its there when the victim appeared to be murdered deep in the woods.
Data
Jul 10 2008, 06:00 AM
Besides the difficulty, to show what you wrote, in a film sequence, it is just a bloody BF scene without blood.
Alternative:
Let some hikers find a half rotten skeleton in a cave (to small for BF) who died of mailnutrition, due to the fact that he was afraid of leaving the place. Those guys call the ranger in, etc. At the second act you can than take the ranger in a simular situation, and make him understand the happenings at the beginning (showing it in film sequences), which gives him the power to excape or what ever. You can even bring the ranger back into the same cave, which than shows to be just above the "hiding/bedding place" of the "local" BF family, clan, or what have you.
To bet on the power of the scenes is very riscy. A good plot is the basement to get good directores and cameramen. It is simply impossible to have a standard plot and make it a icon throug camerawork and CGI (today). Also you need grade A artists as the needed fear lets the viewer look deeper into themself than any sexscene will. In such a movie you need more than a hystericaly screeming teenage queen.
I don´t write all that because of arrogance. I´am myself on the lookout for the best BF plot. I do that for several years now and what I came up with is what I told you. BF has a extreme potential and that is the fear factor, that is involved in BF sightings. If you can bring this fear to the viewer you already won. You don´t need an agressive BF, or a dead one, you might didn´t even need to see him. To know he is there and he is mighty/powerful is all you need. This combined with a situation out of reach for help is the key. But how to show it or better said how to make the audience feel it?
CU
Teresa
Jul 10 2008, 06:08 AM
I hate movies that don't show the creature until the very end. I wanna know what it looks like early on dang it! Now if someone could just make a bigfoot costume that actually resembles what a bigfoot is "supposed" to look like instead of the cheap gorilla plastic crap. No movie producer or director should ever call the guys that made that idiotic bald blotched up bigfoot for that one movie. Can't remember the name of it but yall know the one I'm talking about.
QUOTE(redratsnake @ Jul 9 2008, 09:48 PM)

Hi
But, But, I was pointing at making a movie about BF and his life , Not a bunch of scary stuff with teens screaming and getting torn up, We have seen all that so many times, Sooo many Times, A challenge would be to put together a movie that had many real encounters while using all the knowledge and evidence to piece together a possible way of life
Peace
Tim
Kinda like Boggy Creek where they dramatize what was supposed to be actual events?
seph
Jul 10 2008, 06:22 AM
Spinlok, if you are successful in your endeavor and get to the filming stage, if you have any say so in who is to be in your movie then please don't cast Lance Henrikson in it. His Sasquatch film quota is full.
(He was in Abominable in 2006 and in Sasquatch Mountain in 2006).
Robert
Jul 10 2008, 07:23 AM
Spinlok,
Get a copy of
The Devil's Ridge by Andre Bergeron. It was just published (either 2007 or '08) and it's a great idea for a BF movie.
If you like it (and you will) contact the author through the publisher and start talking "movie deal" to him.
http://www.amazon.com/Devils-Ridge-Andre-B...6195&sr=1-3
StacyInMI
Jul 10 2008, 07:56 AM
Eh... if you do that, Spinlok, please make the characters more likable. They're just awful, nasty people. I found myself despising three out of the five main characters, including the MAIN main one, and kept hoping the critters would show up and kill them already.
Robert
Jul 10 2008, 10:30 AM
Hey Stacy,
I know what you mean!
The only characters I liked were the guy that is the 'guide' and his girlfriend that he meets at the inn.
The interesting thing is that he becomes the main character a little bit before the halfway point in the book, and the initial main character becomes secondary, and as the story develops and we see his selfishness we start to hate him more and more!
But, I don't want to ruin it for anyone who intends on reading it.
RedRatSnake
Jul 11 2008, 05:31 AM
QUOTE(Teresa @ Jul 10 2008, 08:08 AM)

Kinda like Boggy Creek where they dramatize what was supposed to be actual events?
Hi
Thats what i was thinking, But very much up to date
Peace
Tim
Teresa
Jul 11 2008, 06:02 AM
I still love ole Boggy Creek. LOL
CGunn
Jul 11 2008, 10:40 AM
I saw Boggy Creek when I was real little and it scared me half to death.
The part that really scared me was when the trailer started rocking back and forth violently and then bigfoot was in the window.
Actually, that may have been something different...
Oh well.
bipedalist
Jul 11 2008, 03:02 PM
There have been plenty of people since that movie that have had their trailer, RV, truck rocked and a few with dented doors to prove it was not an earthquake.
Teresa
Jul 11 2008, 05:46 PM
I don't remember a trailer rocking on the Boggy Creek movie. Sounds like you must be thinking of Fear Factor when they did the bigfoot joke on some kids in an RV.
RedRatSnake
Jul 11 2008, 09:33 PM
Hi
Ya there was no trailer rocking in that movie, I just watched it the other day and remember at least part of it

But if someone was to make a new one ! ! Were the camera man followed the creeks along with the BF, now that would be something i would watch
Peace
Tim
Spinlok
Jul 12 2008, 02:14 PM
QUOTE(Data @ Jul 10 2008, 07:00 AM)

Besides the difficulty, to show what you wrote, in a film sequence, it is just a bloody BF scene without blood.
Alternative:
Let some hikers find a half rotten skeleton in a cave (to small for BF) who died of mailnutrition, due to the fact that he was afraid of leaving the place. Those guys call the ranger in, etc. At the second act you can than take the ranger in a simular situation, and make him understand the happenings at the beginning (showing it in film sequences), which gives him the power to excape or what ever. You can even bring the ranger back into the same cave, which than shows to be just above the "hiding/bedding place" of the "local" BF family, clan, or what have you.
To bet on the power of the scenes is very riscy. A good plot is the basement to get good directores and cameramen. It is simply impossible to have a standard plot and make it a icon throug camerawork and CGI (today). Also you need grade A artists as the needed fear lets the viewer look deeper into themself than any sexscene will. In such a movie you need more than a hystericaly screeming teenage queen.
I don´t write all that because of arrogance. I´am myself on the lookout for the best BF plot. I do that for several years now and what I came up with is what I told you. BF has a extreme potential and that is the fear factor, that is involved in BF sightings. If you can bring this fear to the viewer you already won. You don´t need an agressive BF, or a dead one, you might didn´t even need to see him. To know he is there and he is mighty/powerful is all you need. This combined with a situation out of reach for help is the key. But how to show it or better said how to make the audience feel it?
CU
You do make some great points. However, I'm not so sure if it will click with audiences if the bigfoot is not agressive. It would kind of have the mentality of "okay, so a BF is running around the forrest, so what? What threat does it pose?" You have to keep in mind that you have to satisfy the needs of the audience rather than just people who are interested in BF.
QUOTE(Teresa)
I hate movies that don't show the creature until the very end. I wanna know what it looks like early on dang it! Now if someone could just make a bigfoot costume that actually resembles what a bigfoot is "supposed" to look like instead of the cheap gorilla plastic crap. No movie producer or director should ever call the guys that made that idiotic bald blotched up bigfoot for that one movie. Can't remember the name of it but yall know the one I'm talking about.
Having the creature not show up in the end is very risky indeed. The long wait builds up suspence and anticipation but if the design of the creature is bad, then the whole movie flops. If the design is great and scary looking than the build-up is woth it and makes an already scary creature 10 times more horrifying.
And I promise you that the design of the BF will be very accurate to the reports while still being very scary at the same time. And I agree, I really hate the lame BF monkey suits that Hollywood has been churning out. Even the "Bothering Bigfoot" commercials got it all wrong. Why do they always give it a cone head with a bald spot? Its so stupid looking.
I'll definately look into the "Devil's Ridge" book. It sounds interesting. However, if I make a movie out of it, the first thing to go will be the title. Its so clich'e sounding.
Spinlok
Jul 27 2008, 08:58 PM
I just wanted to say thanks to those who reccomended the Devil's Ridge, because it was great and it gave me a bunch of great ideas. I will agree, the characters were EXTREMELY unlikeable. For one thing they wren't developed well enough, they were mean and nasty like others above said, they had no humerous or light side to them they were always so serious the whole time, and the soap opera moments were cringe inducing. But it had some really creepy scenes and the end was action packed and intense.
I was thinking about buying the rights for an adaption of the book, but make it a hybrid of my original movie idea and the story of the book. And the characters will be a whole lot more likeable ofcouse. I'll post it soon.
OnlyASize12
Jul 28 2008, 12:31 PM
I think the scope of what you have here is far more than a 90 minute movie.
This is more like a novel out-line.
Low-budget movies are a particular fascination of mine.
Finding a good cheaply-made movie is like finding a diamond amidst a field of gravel.
I've watched a lot of low-budget movies (including a good bit of low-budget horror - including the more well-known bigfoot horror movies).
The key to a successful film is an engaging script with well written characters and an acknowledgement of the limitations of the resources that will be available to support the filming. A good script will attract decent actors and (very importantly - is the only chance of getting real financial support). A low-budget film that is relying upon special-effects and wow-factor is probably already dead. If you don't have the financies of Jurrasic Park, you shouldn't expect to create the effects of Jurrassic Park (sorta, I know PC image-development is really a lot further along now, if you want to see a neat, fairly cheap example, check out an Australian movie called the UnDead
http://www.undeadthemovie.com/).
I feel that your stated script suffers from an inability to suspend disbelief. The bigfeet are too visible (the economy of the region is dependent upon bigfoot tourism?) when compared to the shyness of the general reality. When your audience is going (why is this stupid, topless girl wandering alone into the basement of the haunted house to get the cat...oh right, I'm just watching a movie...and I've seen this scene before) you are probably not creating the response from the audience you want.
There are 4 movies I would suggest watching if you have not already.
1) Clerks by Kevin Smith. The story of a put-upon convenience store clerk and a singularly hellish day when he was supposed to be off. Smith's script is engaging and you get sucked right into the story. Shot in black/white with nothing I particularly remember as special-effects. He did this for about $25,000 back in the early 90s, filming mostly in the convenience store he worked in because it was available for nothing. I think this movie is an excellent example of how a lot of energy/time can be cheaply invested by a film-maker into a script that makes the film really work and that exploits the free things around the author.
2) The BlairWitch project. The original one. I do not feel this film deserves the hype that was around it when it came out, but it is an excellent example of how you can film a very cheap, rather scary movie. Special-effects mostly consisted of bizzare twig-sculptures and having someone in the dark woods screaming....but it is very effective. You do get scared because you can't quite figure out what is happening...but it is all clearly bad.
3) The Legend Of Bogey Creek. Perhaps the best of the bigfoot fictional films I've seen. The opening scene with the little boy racing across open meadows surrounded by woods, the shadows lengthening around him as the darkness falls...and then him hearing that distant scream from the treeline is still a scene that makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. One of the things this movie shows is how you can make a cheap-ass gorrilla costume mostly work by not actually showing the bigfoot clearly for more than a moment or two. The longer you can see the guy in the suit...the more clear it is a guy in a suit.
4) Abomidable. yeah...I know. But....this film does show that even if you have more than a pittance to work with, a bigfoot constume that really looks good...is still not really possible. I dragged this movie out of a $3 DVD bin, so I have watched the behind-the-scenes footage of the costuming work. These folks didn't have a Jurrasic park budget to work with, but they did have "decent" money and they clearly were professionals...not a group of enthuasiasts working out of their garage....and their monster-suite is pretty clearly a man in a suit once you've looked for more than a moment.
Tim
QUOTE(Spinlok @ Jul 8 2008, 05:11 PM)

While I'm really into Bigfoot, I'm also into movies and I hope to be a film maker one day. I'm surprised no one's made a really good, scary movie on Bigfoot. Just Harry and the Hendersons which was a comedy. Anyways, here's my idea.
The movie will be a SCARY suspencful movie. It'll have similar elements to Jaw, Signs, and the Village. Keep in mind, this is a rough overview of the plot so not many details have been laid out like names and some plot points.
The story takes place in a small little town somewhere in the Pacific Northwest that borders a huge lake and a national park. While its a little town, it recieves a great amount of tourists that camp in the national park and swim/fish in the large lake. BF is a great part of its culture because of the amount of sightings every year.
Suddenly, an innocent girl has been found murdered and ripped to shreds. There is great confusion to what killed her, because she has animal bite marks on her that were made at the time of the muder, yet she also seems to be beaten to death. This causes a great stir in the town because they fear tourism will drop and that the fall festival is coming up. Strange noises are emitting from the forrests alot more than usual.
The main character is a young park ranger who has just moved into the town and lives at the edge of the forrest. He begins to investigate the murder and notices an increasing number BF sightings. A cryptzooligist visits the town to investigate and peaks the interest of the main character. Soon he becomes obsessed with everyting related to BF. The crypzooligist also questions why BF, usually a peaceful creature, is killing people.
Suddenly a couple more murders breakout and panic grips the town. The city officials bring in skeptics to debunk BF and calm the hysteria ( and hope to bring the scared tourists back), causing the cryptzooligist to go on a tirade.
Soon, even more murders happen and livestock are killed. The main character also hears strange noises in the forrest and bipedal footsteps in his backyard at night. A hunter comes forward and explains that before all this happened, he shot at a few BFs in teh forrest and thinks they're retaliating out of fury. The city officials declare that if they want them to take BF seriously, someone must go out and get good evidence.
So the main character, the crypzooligist, and a few other characters I have left to develope go out to a cabin on a rual side of the lake that has had large amounts of BF sightings ( guess where I got this idea from? ). They decide to stay out there for two months. They endure horrifying nights of attacks by BFs and they manage to get a good video of one. Things suddenly go awry and they have no way to contact home ( they were taken there by pontoon plane ). So they decide to take the long trek through the forrest home.
They all get seperated somehow ( have yet to decide how ) till the main character is left on his own. He spends cold dark nights by himself hearing spooky howls in the distance. Then one day he notices he's being stalked. Then he's suddenly attacked by a huge, black, BF ( in all of its realistic CGI glory ) and gets the crap beaten out of him. He somehow finds a way to kill the BF and makes it back to town alive.
I still have yet to come up with a better ending, but it'll come to me.
Anyways, please tell me what you think!
Robert
Jul 28 2008, 12:39 PM
I would add to your list of four Cloverfield, which is a kind of variation on Blair Witch. And, the monster is not clearly seen until the end, and it's WEIRD.
Glad you liked The Devil's Ridge. I agree, you need better developed, more likable characters, but the basic plot and the realistic details are all good and it builds up to a great climax.
OnlyASize12
Jul 28 2008, 12:42 PM
>Now if someone could just make a bigfoot costume that actually resembles what a bigfoot is "supposed" to look like instead of the cheap gorilla >plastic crap.
I think it is one of the better arguments for the Patterson film being real is that the figure looks more like a living being than the sasquatch in any bigfoot film/TV show I've ever seen.
> No movie producer or director should ever call the guys that made that idiotic bald blotched up bigfoot for that one movie. Can't remember the >name of it but yall know the one I'm talking about.
The one where bigfoot looked like a mangy french-cut poodle? That would be the film Sasquatch.
I'd still like to hear what the heck the costuming folks on that one were thinking.
Tim
I actually think you'd be doing excellent if you got someone like Henrikson to agree to be in the picture.
he's a good actor.
The worse thing I can say about him is he seems to prefer to work - even in questionable films - rather than stay and home and not work.
Tim
QUOTE(seph @ Jul 10 2008, 06:22 AM)

Spinlok, if you are successful in your endeavor and get to the filming stage, if you have any say so in who is to be in your movie then please don't cast Lance Henrikson in it. His Sasquatch film quota is full.
(He was in Abominable in 2006 and in Sasquatch Mountain in 2006).
OnlyASize12
Jul 28 2008, 12:49 PM
QUOTE(Spinlok @ Jul 12 2008, 02:14 PM)

Having the creature not show up in the end is very risky indeed. The long wait builds up suspence and anticipation but if the design of the creature is bad, then the whole movie flops. If the design is great and scary looking than the build-up is woth it and makes an already scary creature 10 times more horrifying.
Check out the movie Alien. Despite having a fairly good costume, the decision was made to largely hide the creature from view in darkness right into the end...so it kept being terrifying. I think it worked quite well.
On the other hand, there was a bigfoot movie on SciFi a couple of years ago. I had set a VCR to tape it but got home right at the end. Having forgotten what was going on, I turned the TV on and literally watched the last two minutes of the movie. In the climatic scene, a CGIed bigfoot jumps out and beats the tar out of what I assume was the villian. The problem is that the CGI was sooo obvious it made the old Land of The Lost look like a filmed documentary on dinosaurs. I turned the TV off, rewound the tape and added it to my "to be taped over" pile without even bothering to watch that one. It was clearly a case where the resources weren't available to do the CGI effect well, so they should have altered the ending to not need it.
Tim
Spinlok
Jul 28 2008, 11:28 PM
the whole Bigfootracker.com bigfoot body thing is giving me good ideas for a possible sequal. A bunch of morons try to catch a bigfoot, but get the tar beat out of them at the end. lol
Anyways, here's my ideas for the Devil's Ridge/my story hybrid:
The movie starts off exactly the same as Devil's Ridge where Brad's father is murdered in the forrest. He wakes up years later, haunted by the memory ( Kellly is mercifully cut out ), and goes to various bigfoot websites and finds one made by a renouned cryptzooligist ( similar to Jeff Meldrum ). He decides to contact him and hope for an expedition with him to face his fears.
Meanwhile, a park ranger ( let's just call him Skip for the time being ) finds mangled bodies at the edge of the forrest preserve ( I'll take your advice and cut the scene showing the muder taking place ) and the nearby town next to the reserve and on the lake begins to panic with rumors spreading that bigfoots did it. The city officials try to calm the waters so to not scare off the tourists comng to the town by having a hunter shooting a suspected bear and arresting a drunk drifter who could possibly be the murder. But that doesn't stop Skip from a new facination with bigfoot. He then learns that a crypzooligist is coming to town.
The cryptzooligist comes with a fellow scientist, Brad, and a friend that brad brought along who doesn't believe in bigfoot.
They meet with Skip and discuss all things bigfoot. The attacks suddenly stop. But Skip becomes scared as he hears strange noises coming from the woods and thinks his house is visited by bigfoots. Suddenly the attacks start again. Skip and the gang meet with a hunter who claims he shot at a family of bigfoots and thinks that's why they're attacking. They try to make a case with the city council, but they refuse to budge. They then decide to spend a month at a cabin that's in the preserve but also on the lake and is very remote and has had bigfoot activity in the past.
Okay, its late and I'm tired. I promise I'll finnish the rest tomorrow!
Spinlok
Jul 30 2008, 10:49 PM
Sorry for the dealy, here's the next part:
BTW, I'm giving the characters temporary names so you can identify them better:
Park Ranger: Skip
Cryptzooligist: Jeff
Skip's friend: Jory
Brad's friend: Roy
scientist: John
They all visit the owner of the cabin's house which is located at the edge of the forrest. He ( his name is Mr. Akers ) gives them all a briefing on everything incluing to beware of "old silver" a big grey colored bigfoot, and then takes them out to the cabin on a sea plane and drops them off there. They say there a few days without any activity. So they then decide to head deep into the woods and make camp. At night, they then start experiencing some phenomenon such as some distant vocalizations, and movement in the forrest. The next day, they find foot prints and make casts. The next night, the activity becomes more threatening as they see glowing red eyes in the woods, and more rock throwing. They begin to fire at the creatures in the woods. Brad becomes paranoid and fixed on killing one for himself. The next night they experience the "crying baby" scene from the book ( VERY creepy and haunting scene in the book ). The next morning, Roy becomes fed up with the whole expedition and wants to go home. He has a big arguement with Brad and heads out over into the woos in frustation. A bigfoot ( hidden amongst the brush ) charges forward and crunches Roy against a tree like in the book. Everyone becomes freaked and Jeff decides that its too dangerous to stay in the woods. He decides ( against Brad's wishes ) to head back to the cabin.
They bury Roy next to the cabin and set up a bunch of cameras for the night. The next morning, they find Roy's dead corpse dug up and put on the fornt porch. The whole team is horriffied and finds BF tracks all over. The next night the BFs start to attack ( the scene where Skip see's the BF face outside the window like I talked about before happens ) and Jory is seriously hurt after a barrage of big rocks from the forrest. They sleep though a horrifying night in which BFs pound on the walls of the cabin.
Jeff decides that Jory needs to get to a hospital but they have no boat, the phones don't work, and the owner of the cabin isn't coming back for them for another two weeks or so. So Jeff decides to take Jory back to town on an ATV though an animals trailer with John along to tend to him, leaving Skip and Brad alone by themselves at the cabin. Suddenly, a tree mysteriously falls on the cabin, leaving Brad and Skip no choice but to try to go after the ATV. Brad and Skip get serperated when Brad thinks he sees a BF in the distance and tries to go after it and shoot it, leaving Skip all alone. Skip spends a horrifying night in the woods hearing terrible screams echo through the woods. Same goes for Brad who didn't find a BF, and same goes for Jeff, Jory, and John who have set up camp.
Skip keeps moving when morning comes when he realizes he's being stalked by a huge and hairy, black bigfoot. The BF keeps getting closer and closer every time he looks back. He tries to run, but the BF gets to him and beats the crud out of him. He then manages to defeat the BF by tricking it to fall off a cliff, then finnishes it off by stabbing it with a pointy branch.
Brad finds a BF and shoots at it, but ends up getting ambushed by a group of BFs led by old silver. Silver knocks Brad unconcious and drags him to a BF nest. Old silver then leaves with 4 other BFs to go after the rest of the crew.
Skip manages to meet up with the ATV team, but not to long after, they realize they're being stalked. They try to go faster, but end up crashing the ATV. They then dash through the woods and see a clearing up ahead ( its Mr. Akers house ) but old silver steps in front of them. They fire at the BFs wildly with their guns, and make a dash for Mr. Aker's house. Mr. Akers is on the porch and fires at the BFs, driving them back into the tree line. He gives the rest of them guns and they keep firing at the BFs in the woods. Mr. Akers says its unsafe and that they have to get out now. So they head on over to the other side of the house to get to the cars. The BFs take the patio and begin to hurtle lawn chairs and other things over the house to where they're at.
They load Jory onto Mr. Aker's truck and Mr. Akers drives off with him. Jeff gets John and Skip into his car and they drive off ( as a huge gas barbecue hurtled through the air by the BFs just misses them ) but old silver catches up and rams the car off the road where it crashes into a tree. Skip is hurtled out of the car and sees a wounded old silver just a few yards from him. It then charges at Skip, limping teribly. Skip shoots at it with his pistol with no effect. He then sees a propane tank that Mr. Akers has on his property that old silver is standing near and he fires at it, making it explode and immolate old silver in the flames. A flaming old silver runs off into the forrest screaming as the sheriff pulls up and fires at the other BFs who retreat.
Brad is lying at the BF nest when the other BFs come back dragging the dead corpse of old silver. The other BFs begin to moan in dispair. But one of the returning BFs roars in rage and stares at Brad then steps toward him where the scene ends.
As Skip is leaving the hospital with Jeff, he gives him a photo that one of the cameras captured of a bigfoot. But Jeffs just sighs and says "here's another photo that the whole world will scrutinize as fake" and drives off.
Okeedoke. I'm open for commments and suggestions!
Data
Jul 31 2008, 05:28 AM
Yes, the plot gets better and better.
As I hve only little time I read it just once. What I think is that it now could be a little bit to much for a up to 120 min movie. Also maybe someone should think about shortening the whole timespan to two nights. I think so because the thrill is best shown in the night and if the day comes, it puts the viewer out of it. But to keep the audience hang on you need a steady acceleration of happenings and fear factor. But to be at a point where a story should be compressed or croped is a very good sign.
Oh, and the gas tank is hopefully just as long included until something more twisty comes to your mind ;-)
Nice work.
CU
Data
Spinlok
Aug 3 2008, 09:52 AM
Thanks for the comments.
You're right, it does seem a little long. I'd have to see how it would work if I wrote a script.
And I know the explosion seems a little cheesy, but I would like a more dramatic way of killing off big silver raher than it just falling dead of gunshot wounds. So, I don't know, I'll think more about it.
Please keep the comments coming! I didn't write all that plot synopsis for nothing.
Spinlok
Aug 6 2008, 09:13 AM
Could I please have some more responses? I don't want to have spent that long time writing for nothing.
Robert
Aug 6 2008, 09:39 AM
Hey Spin,
I just saw this and gave it a quick read. It's a good blend of the original and your ideas, but I'm going to print it out and read it again more slowly when I can. I'll get back to you.
Have you contacted the author yet, BTW?
Also, who do you have in mind to direct and what kind of production budget are you thinking of?
Blobsquatch
Aug 6 2008, 10:12 AM
QUOTE(Spinlok @ Jul 30 2008, 08:49 PM)

As Skip is leaving the hospital with Jeff, he gives him a photo that one of the cameras captured of a bigfoot. But Jeffs just sighs and says "here's another photo that the whole world will scrutinize as fake" and drives off.
I can tell you read these forums by that comment.
Anyway, I first thought you were on the same track
as this. Maybe you could procure movie rights to it.
But really, I like your story outline. Heaven knows Hollywood makes movies with much thinner plots.
Maybe you could write a skeptic into the script who is investigating to disprove "those meddling kids", and then gets attacked by BF, but just keeps saying "but you don't exist... you don't exist.... " as he gets pummeled into hamburger (fade to black).
Cheers and keep up the good work.
Robert
Aug 6 2008, 12:56 PM
OK, i read it again and got out my RED PEN this time.
The begining, with the town in panic at the killings, and the city officials trying to 'calm the waters' is very similar to the movie 'Jaws'.
"This was no boating accident!"
or
"This was no bear attack!"
You may remember the mayor of the small beach town refused to close the beaches due to economic considerations. Not that this is a bad thing, but you might want to camp it up a little bit, you know, echo some of the memorable lines:
Mayor -"You say barracuda, people say 'Huh? What?' but you say shark, and you've got a panic on your hands on the Fourth of July!"
Your guy could say, for instance, "You say bear, people say 'Huh? What?' but you say rampaging sasquatch, and you've got a panic on your hands... etc."
Anyway, you get the idea.
After that, the movie could turn darker, more like a horror/thriller type film. I would stay away from the graphic slasher type scenes, as that has already been done, and very poorly, in several killer bigfoot movies I have seen.
Early on, when Roy is killed, don't actually show the sas. Just show a dark shadow, a blur of large dark furry bulk. Reserve the actual clear visuals for the face in the window, and the final scenes.
The first and second nights, when they camp, should be very like the scene in the book, where they camp on 'the bald', and hear the eerie sound of the baby crying, and the owls, and all that. It's one of the best chapters in the book, and I wouldn't change it for the movie. The glowing eyes at night has to be done right in order to be effectively scary. I'm not a cinematographer, but you need someone who can do that and make it look real.
The face in the window is an excellent idea. One of the scariest things in the world is sitting in a semi dark house at night and looking up at a window only to see a horrific bestial face staring at you from the other side! It has to be a really scary looking face in near darkness for this to work though.
I like the idea of Skip tricking the sas to fall off the cliff, then killing it with the pointed stick. Watch the movie The Edge to see two men do this to a giant grizzly bear. It should be similar to that. Great stuff - very exciting!
At the end, when Silver drags Brad to his nest, why not keep it as it is in the book, and make it a dilapidated old cabin? Just a thought.
The rest is good, better plot than any bigfoot movie ever made to date, that's for sure.
I just hope you can get a good director and a big budget for this. It could be a blockbuster thriller.
Is M. Night Shyamalan available?
Spinlok
Aug 12 2008, 08:22 PM
QUOTE(Robert @ Aug 6 2008, 01:56 PM)

After that, the movie could turn darker, more like a horror/thriller type film. I would stay away from the graphic slasher type scenes, as that has already been done, and very poorly, in several killer bigfoot movies I have seen.
Thats a good idea, the first half while they're at home could be somewhat light with some sprinkling of creepyness, but when they go to the cabin the tone of the film becomes dark and cold. And you're right, I'll definately stay away from slasher type scenes.
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Early on, when Roy is killed, don't actually show the sas. Just show a dark shadow, a blur of large dark furry bulk. Reserve the actual clear visuals for the face in the window, and the final scenes.
Exactly what I was planning.
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The first and second nights, when they camp, should be very like the scene in the book, where they camp on 'the bald', and hear the eerie sound of the baby crying, and the owls, and all that. It's one of the best chapters in the book, and I wouldn't change it for the movie. The glowing eyes at night has to be done right in order to be effectively scary. I'm not a cinematographer, but you need someone who can do that and make it look real.
Oh yes, those will be the parts I will be staying most true to the book with. I think the eyes will simply be CGI, and they will look like the way cats eyes glow except red.
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The face in the window is an excellent idea. One of the scariest things in the world is sitting in a semi dark house at night and looking up at a window only to see a horrific bestial face staring at you from the other side! It has to be a really scary looking face in near darkness for this to work though.
Yeah, I was thinking something like a Bigfoot-ified version of the white exorcist demon face.
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At the end, when Silver drags Brad to his nest, why not keep it as it is in the book, and make it a dilapidated old cabin? Just a thought.
The reason why I eliminated the cabin was because it would be too clauserphobic, and I want it to be in an area where you can see a wide variety of BFs living there.
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The rest is good, better plot than any bigfoot movie ever made to date, that's for sure.
Thank you!
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I just hope you can get a good director and a big budget for this. It could be a blockbuster thriller.
I've actually been wanting to direct. lol I'm actually thinking about becoming a film director and have many ideas for other movies to do. I've given lots of second thoughts because I keep reading these horror stories of directors that had disasterous times filming their movies. Oh well, time will tell.
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Is M. Night Shyamalan available?
I love M. Night, but he directs his own material though.
Squatchfoot
Oct 25 2008, 03:29 PM
I would like to see a bigfoot film that doesnt portray our hairy friends as evil menacing creatures but the shy creatures that we all know them to be. I dont mean some silly comedy like Harry and the Hendersons either. I would love to see a decent film about sasquatch and the people who are captivated by this species. I tell ya,the story of Patterson,Gimlin,John Green,Bob Morgan,Peter Byrne,Rene Dahinden,Titmus,Krantz and the whole group of legendary researchers..would be a great film. Just sort of a history of the sasquatch and the people who dedicate their lives to searching for him. I know documentaries have been made along this line but I would like to see it be taken as a whole instead of focusing on just one faction or one person. Peace.