Don't know if anyone has posted this before:

http://naturetalk.net/viewtopic.php?p=6451#6451

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:12 am Post subject: Bigfoot?

I was on my way home from issaquah tonight, when I barely noticed something far ahead up the road. it was very tall, large, somewhat hairy. at first i had thought it was a bear but it ran across the road in an upright position. when i got to the area i thought it had crossed, i pulled over to looked around. i found a rather large scuff mark on the edge of the road, some other fresh sign. so, i grabbed my trusty little flashlight, entered the woods to follow. the sign was quite obvious, the smell was even easier to follow. i was about 120 yrds. into the woods when i heard a blood curdling scream. it scared me so bad i started yelling myself and swiftly made my way back to my car. i tripped several times and nearly got lost. if that thing was a bigfoot, i now understand why one has never been found.
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Is the date of the posting,April 2nd at 5:03 in the a.m. significant?

Not sure dog4 but looking over the Posters previous Posts on that Forum for 15 mins or so, they didn't strike me as being the mischevious April Fools day Prankster if that's what you're getting at ??

& if they were being hoaxed themselves, surely the Hoaxers wouldn't have gone through the trouble of the smell & the scream would they ??

One last question, if someone see's a Bear crossing the Road, or at least something that is reminiscent of a Bear, in the dark of night, armed only with their " trusty little Flashlight " do they really go & follow it into the Woods for 120 Yards or so ??

Braver than me if they would..

Edit : I can't actually view the youtube.com link tonight but will at work tomorrow if it makes much of a difference..

If his first thoughts weren't bear or that he was in danger, then I could imagine saying "What the...?!?!?!?!" and stepping out of the car and trying to get a better look. 120 yards seems a long ways, but depending on the area it could seem like he just stepped off the road.

hey researchers yes this is indeed a very interesting possible sasquatch sighting that definetly needs more research & investigations done to it. good morning bill

I'm not so sure, 120 yards or so is a Football Field, that's not a few steps to have an initial look, that's a pretty long way, especially in the Pitch black looking for a Creature that was Tall, Large & Hairy & ,in his own words, he originally thought was a Bear..

Maybe North Bend WA People are just a lot braver than i am..

Yea, either alot braver or they have young eyes to night adapt well in the moonlight, err what was the stage of the moon that
night?

For April 1st and 2nd, sun and moon data with regards to Pacific Daylight Time for North Bend, WA.

April 1st
sunset 7:38PM
civil twilight ended 8:09PM

moon rise 4:52AM
moon transit 9:34AM
moon set 2:27PM

April 2nd
moon rise 5:13AM

Might be in that Catmandu shows the sighting occurs 10 minutes before moonrise==oops got that wrong that was the date/time of the posting
--don't see a time for the sighting, sounds like it must have been a moonless night for the most part though. if you are on bf's celestial wavelengths it might matter.
BF prob. uses the moon in synchronous ways to assist with hunting/travel from what others have told me. Thanks for the data too CAT.

Bipedalist, the time of sighting is not given. I was posting moon data, period. The lack of details and generic vague descriptions is suspicious.

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i was about 120 yrds. into the woods when i heard a blood curdling scream. it scared me so bad i started yelling myself and swiftly made my way back to my car. i tripped several times and nearly got lost. if that thing was a bigfoot, i now understand why one has never been found.


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I was about 120 yards into the woods, When i heard a blood curling scream, It scared me so bad, It could not be real, I started to yell at myself as the fear set in, Swiftly i made my way back to the car, Tripping several times i nearly got lost, I nearly got lost, If that thing was a Bigfoot as real as could be, I know why no one has found him, So shall it be, Bigfoot rise and be tall,

Peace
Tim

Personally, chasing a possible BF at night when a small flash light is needed is something I would avoid. Now, if I had a big spot light and a gun just for confidence, then I might attempt this move for about 120 yards. Now other people might be different. Maybe this fellow ment 120 feet.

I was on my way home from issaquah tonight, when I barely noticed something far ahead up the road.

Posting was in the AM but this statement indicates it happened at night on the way home from Issaquah. I take it the witness lives somewhere towards North Bend or east of Issaquah. Was the witness getting off work or just getting home from visiting or partying? No mention of the object seen being illuminated with headlights. No mention of the direction of travel. Sunrise was at 6:45 am. It can still be pretty light out in that area an hour or so before sunrise. They might have been just a few minutes away from home and a computer to post this on. It was a Wednesday, usually a work day for most. I would rule out a party and say they might just have been getting off work. Then again it could have been written wrong and the sighting was the night before and they posted the next morning after thinking about it. Or as has been brought up... just an April Fool's joke... with no punch line.

it was very tall, large, somewhat hairy. at first i had thought it was a bear but it ran across the road in an upright position. when i got to the area i thought it had crossed, i pulled over to looked around.

This indicates it wasn't on I90, a major high-speed freeway (70 mph) basically laid out east to west. Must have been on a smaller road. The area is heavily forested and contains many rivers and an isolated water shed. There have been a few Bigfoot sightings and track finds in this area. Bear are common and for the person to get out of the car and give chase speaks that they were familiar enough with bear to know that they weren't chasing one.

i found a rather large scuff mark on the edge of the road, some other fresh sign. so, i grabbed my trusty little flashlight, entered the woods to follow. the sign was quite obvious, the smell was even easier to follow. i was about 120 yrds. into the woods when i heard a blood curdling scream. it scared me so bad i started yelling myself and swiftly made my way back to my car. i tripped several times and nearly got lost. if that thing was a bigfoot, i now understand why one has never been found.

The witness saw the scuff mark without a flashlight but when going off road it was grabbed and brought along. Was it getting dark or was the forest darker then the side of the road? This would not be unusual because the forest is quite a bit darker than areas without a tree canopy. Depending on the canopy thickness, the undergrowth might be thin and traversing it would be pretty easy. The road could be visible for some time and then there could also be the sound of traffic on it that would belay any fear of getting in too deep. As to fear of going into a dark forest, if they live out there they probably do it all the time. Take the garbage out, get in the car, get fire wood, etc, etc. Distances in the woods can be quite misleading so I would not take stock in it being too accurate.

Without interviewing the witness it is all guess work. Could be either male or a female, could work day or night shift, could be sober or under the influence, could be serious or joking, could of happened around dusk or sunrise, etc. They did post it to a rather no-nonsense group's discussion board though. From what I can gather, it rained .22 inches the night of April 1st in North Bend and appears to have been a bit foggy.

Given the conditions, I'd go for 120 feet... with a big flashlight.

Good analysis Damndirtyape. The forest canopy was probably thick which made the trail dark and spooky. Possibly the under brush was thinned out due to canopy shading.

I would follow a BF in the daytime but would really have to know the area before venturing in at night. I would go 120 inches into the forest Oregonfooter. Now if there were 3 other armed buddies, then what the heck..........go for it. Someone on the forum said the difference between a fool and a hero is not the deed but the outcome of the deed. Now if this fellow would have found BF and taken a picture, then this would have been heroic. The fool part is the otherside of the coin.

Interesting...and after checkin' out the guys website, the general context and your reading your perspective DDA, I gotta admit it does sound like the real deal. I wonder if there isn't a backstory with this Wilderness Awareness School. Any info on them?

Not too sure dog4 but they're 25 years young & have these fantastic looking Courses, pretty $$$ though i think..

http://www.wildernessawareness.org/adult/w...ng-courses.html

I have run directly at black bears here in Colorado. Both times they ran away scared little dogs. One was a good 350 pounds or more. It is a technique that I believe Huntster also has employed. Would I do that with a sow with cubs nearby? Of course not. Grizzly/Brown bear? Probably not. Sasquatch? I do not know, havent seen one yet

You do have some exaggeration or hoaxes yet I believe the majority of these witnesses are telling the truth they actually believe they have seen Bigfoot. This will explain why:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noTCZtPNnzQ...feature=related

In That area there has been a huge population growth. But still a large amount of wilderness does exist . Im on the fence with that report Leaning towards the not so real...... IMHO.

I was just in this area a couple of weeks ago (folks live near Issaquah) and there is not a good way (other than I-90) to get from Issaquah to North Bend. Just look on Mapquest - click driving directions then choose "avoid highways" and you'll see the route. I've been on that road, and it's hilly, curvy, and only 2 lanes in an area with a lot of new housing developments. In other words, I'm not sure why someone wouldn't take the freeway. I'm also not sure why someone would chase a suspected/possible bear into the woods. I happened to see one in Oregon a week ago and it scared the cr*p out of me. I did not for one instant consider chasing it into the woods. (Not to mention it's cub season, even more reason to avoid bears.)

Without more details, this report is quite suspect in my opinion.

Regarding the linked youtube video...I have no doubt that many of the reports that are listed on the various databases or documented in books are hoaxes or misidentification. But my issue with the notion of a guy in a suit running across a road trying to fool some random motorist is that IT IS SOME RANDOM MOTORIST...you don't know if the guy or gal is a flashlight toting, tree hugging naturist...or a guy driving down the road with an armory in the passenger seat. Nonetheless, I've gone out on many independent trips...and one BFRO trip (don't get me started)...I barely get 120 inches away from my vehicle at night...you just don't know what's out there in those remote areas.

Interesting sighting. I have spent a LOT of time in the North bend and Issaquah area over the past 30 years, and have never seen a Bigfoot yet. I haven't gone looking for one yet, so maybe it's time to start looking. There's a lot or primitive country just off the highway, so I would not be surprised if they were nearby, that is, if they really do exist. ;-) I believe, but am not convinced, let's say.

And by the way, dirty ape, where'd you get your ape, human, Bigfoot icon. I'd love too have a copy large size. Looks great.

Tontar

This is what bothered me about this sighting too. I work in issaquah but do not live in the area so don't know the back roads overly well. My first thought when reading this encounter was "he saw bigfoot on I-90?" since that would be the logical way to get to North Bend. The only other way to go would have been the Issaquah-Fall City Road to the Redmond-Fall City Road to 202 and that makes next to no sense. It would make a 19 minute trip on I-90 into a 34 minute drive on windy roads with lower speed limits according to mapquest and that's not accounting for traffic.