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Just found this on cryptomundo.
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/myakka08/

Although it is a youtube one, the Myakka doesn´t look like a cheap fake at first sight.

Pro:
-Bulky
-Very big, not to many people should be of this hight.
-Moves fluently, natural
-Seems to use its arm to get up at the beginning. (=no fake arms, just hanging from its shoulders. Combined with the no neck feature, its very unlikly that a human can move that way in a "costume")
-no evidence of 3D

Cons:
-Can´t be seen entierly
-Seems to have very square shoulders.
-No sound
-Why doesn´t the people run away as it seems just bellow 20 yards away and approaching?
-The animal seems stupid in what it is doing, just moving around. (Or is it dieing, sick?) Also it seems as if the animal just recognises the people as it is only yards away from them. (very unlikly)
-Video is edited

Conclusion:
It shurly isn´t a bear, cow or what ever. Either Myakka or a big man in a suit, that works regarding movements. A full resolution file would bring up much more detail. At least a good recreation of what some people see in the woods.

CU
tiger66
Looks sort of goofy in its movements. Doesn't look like something that's used to moving around in the woods normally.
Maybe he's just shy... new_hmmsmiley02.gif
jimf
I'd add to the cons of it, that from the surrounding vegetation that the video seems to be taken in three different places, and not from a single one as would be expected.
robo
The vegetation looks more like temperate zone new growth than swampy south florida. If the claimed location is way off, that's a huge red flag.

The cuts are suspicious, as is the way it cuts off in the middle of the clearest shot we get of the creature.


A poorly thought out fake, IMO.
Texas Bigfoot
I'm waiting for a video of the screaming, bluff charging, rock throwing BF we always HEAR about when cameras AREN'T present.
billgreen2005bigfoot
here my opinion ok this new possible filmfootage of a florida sasquatch could real or authentic it very interesting indeedy but it need more research study etc done to it. the people who took this filmfootage realy need to be contacted by some researchers here. im not saying hoax. keep me posted ok. thanks bill smile.gif
Kucta-qa
Looks a lot better than I thought it would. Something seems fishy, though.
moregon
I have to agree with the rest, something is just not right. At one point when he's moving away from the camera it appears to be following a path by the way it makes a sharp turn to the right, takes a few steps and then a sharp turn to the left. I would "Think" it would simply walk in a straight line away from whatever caused it to leave in the first place, assuming the cameraman. When he gets up from the apparently sitting position at the beginning of the video I see the arms go up, but don't see him grab anything as if helping himself up, and at one part of the video it looks like he's pushing small branches out of his way as we walks, something else I wouldn't expect something use to walking in the woods would do. But, I still can't say it's NOT the Myakka, since I've never seen a real Myakka myself walking through the woods.
VAFooter
Very odd editing and the fact that the creature just seems to wander around aimlessly within a few feet of the camera. That kinds of lessens the impact for me.
BC Cryptid
Again, and with all these type, WHY DOES THE FILM STOP???? The 'animal' is still in focus, the guy is close to it, filming, and... the film stops.

Unless they come up with a reasonable explanation for this (and the only one I would accept is the battery flashing light showing in the video), I cannot accept it, much as I'd like to.
rockinkt
Nobody credible would ever use the old " I ran out of film" (in this case video tape) excuse - would they? wink.gif

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QUOTE(rockinkt @ May 17 2008, 11:38 AM) *
Nobody credible would ever use the old " I ran out of film" (in this case video tape) excuse - would they? wink.gif

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Yes thats right.

After viewing it sometimes more I now think I get the answer.
New Pro: (edits in generell)
If someone would ask me (lets emagie Iam not into BF), as a filmmaker, how to bring 15 Minutes of such stuff on youtube, I would edit it in a simular way. Youtube is screeming for attraction not for sientific documentation. Although if you have something real I also wouldn´t show the good parts (if there are any) right away (money, you know). And even if you are wanting to show it to BF people whats an easier way than to upoad it to youtube or simular. If someone is realy interessted, he can come an screen it. But first he needs a teaser to hook up.

New (killer) con:
The cuts themselself doesn´t look idiotic, it seems someone even tried a so called invisible cut, what needs a bit of knowledge. I would say someone into film/video was involved at least regarding the editing. As the cameraman tries what everyone here wanted him to do, zooming in and stick to it for, as it seems, a long time (several minutes) it also points to a trained cameraman, it doesn´t have to be a pro but at least not my sister. But this pro kind of things are most of the time red flags. I saw some videos with the same flaws, the pros trieing to play amateur just can´t shake of their proffesion.

All in all, I now say its a hoax. Or maybe a students project. This due the fact that it realy seems to be a recreation. This is obvious as a natural encounter at this disstance with an amateur at the cam wouldn´t had brought up that much footage (needing editing). If you want to recreate something you usualy stretch time (and dramatise), to give the narration time to discribe and bring the viewer deeper into the wittnesses emotional state. Anybody knows it from documentaries, as they have to play the PGF several times until the narrator has said what he has to. The stupid movement of the creature shows that they aren´t real pros as they edited it the wrong way around. They obviously done it to get a kick at the end. If you take the (I think) last shot of it, "seeing" the cameraman and hiding, as beginning and than hiding, sitting, followed by standing up and moving away it would be right. Out of some reason they want to hold the best shot for the end, they doesn´t followed the three act built up code. To have the kicker at the end by any price shoes premature filmmaking skills, maybe they even filmed it right and then screwed it up in the edit. I think students who doesn´t believed their teachers are the source of this one. But a nice costume anyway.

CU
BenThere_2
So where or what is the YouTube link?

I guess if I wasn't so lazy I could search biggrin.gif
Carry on
georgerm
I agree with Moregon. It seems the BF would walk away from the camera and not back and forth parallel.

There is one frame that shows the back of the BF, and it looks pretty heafty.

The shoulder shot looks real, since the BF suddenly comes out of hiding knowing it has been spotted.

Its a 50/50 to me.
slinky chix
QUOTE(robo @ May 16 2008, 05:21 AM) *
The vegetation looks more like temperate zone new growth than swampy south florida. If the claimed location is way off, that's a huge red flag.


Myakka isnt that far South. Its about an hour South of Tampa. I have been to the Myakka River State Park. I remember a lot of it being pine forrest and typical florida wetlands. Some palmettos, some pine, etc. It isn't too different from Hillsborough River State Park, if you have been there before. The landscape doesn't look off to me. It is a huge area there. I don't recall seeing any area particularly like this, but again its a huge park. I suppose there is a lot of woods around there not part of the park eihter. The park itself is fairly busy with boat ramps, trails, pic nick tables, hiking trails, etc. There is wildlife there... I saw a beautiful Indigo snake on one of the trails... and also a large Diamondback that was nearly bigger around than my thigh.

The video is definitely edited. It looks almost like either parts are looped (like when the creature moved back and forth at the end) or the same movememnt is shown from two different cameras. Like you see the creature stand up and move... then he stands up and moves again from a different angle.

It doesn't looke obviously fake but you really can't see a lot either.

At first I thought maybe it was farther away from the camera man and that he was using zoom but at one point you see someone right on the left side of the frame... so the creature isnt too far away.

Better than most youtube stuff but who knows.

Carla.
thephaige
Interesting vid. Again it proves nothing but there are explainable behaviors. What I seem to see , assuming neither this is real or just staged for logics sake, is a figure crouched as if in a sleep and is startled by the fast transition from down to upright.

Imagine being awoke by an intruder in your house and you had time to react. Some would react quickly and others might go into brief shock and not know where to go and what to do, perhaps partially paralyzed by fear or something else etc.

I cant recall a report of actually awaking a BF and reporting on its reaction to compare with this, but again reactions can vary from individual to individual respectively.

I am also troubled by the length and editing. I would like to see the original res images rather that youtube. I would want to see the full clip etc etc. I would think most folks would continue filming
until the figure is gone or the batteries died in the camera.

But the movements of the figure seem to warrant more scrutiny. It looks in parts very right from all I understand up to this point.
FanofSquatch
Impossible to tell the location from such a small picture, just have to take their word for now. I have areas by my house that look like that but it is just a 30 foot strip of overgrowth in the middle of the city. It's movement is interesting not really clumsy I kind of get the impression that it was aware of intrusion into its space but couldnt tell right away what direction it was in, looked like the thing started to head one way then caught a glimpse of the camera man and turned to exit another direction. Intersting but not convincing.
Nightstalker
An interesting item of note it appears to have no neck. The head is just resting on the shoulders. At least it appears that way to me.
wiiawiwb
I vote hoax. My mother, in her 80s, moves more gracefully in the woods than the man in the suit who can't see where he is or is going.
Teresa
Can't see the video, anybody have a link?
JayleeD
I believe this is it T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dkMhHD9K0
Teresa
I watched it... couldn't tell anything for all the foliage.
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