Please briefly share your opinions of what the BF phenomenon IS NOT, based on the list below, citing one or all of the items on the list:

OVERALL, AND FOR THE MOST PART, what thousands of people have reported and continue to report as an unidentified, living, breathing, hair-covered creature, walking on two legs in the wilderness and rural areas of North America IS NOT...

1) ...a relic hominid/great ape, because...

2) ...a product of mass hysteria, because...

3) ...a misidentified, known creature, because...

4) ...hoaxers in costumes, because...

5) ...a case of universal tall-tale-telling, because...

6) ...something 'not of this world' or a shape shifter, because...

7) ...a 'Find Waldo' type creature that can only be seen in photos of leaf piles, the outlines of foliage, etc, because...

8) ...special ops recon patrol members, like this guy -- http://www.bushrag.com/store/catalog/images/Bushman2_LG.jpg -- who like to wander the wilderness not wearing any underwear, scaring the general population out of their wits, because...

9) ...you, Robin Williams, your ex, your mother-in-law, this guy -- http://www.circusfolks.com/circus/jesusfam.gif -- or any other furry human being, because...

10) ...some other thing people haven't considered yet, because...

Please bring any missed options to my attention. If there are any other things bigfoot IS NOT that don't fall under one of the above items, post it please.

After refuting one or all of the listed possibilities above, please also feel free to also rank the items on the list above in the order of most probable explanation to least probable explanation.

Remember, this thread asks for your opinion. Science is the ultimate everywhere else, but it will not override opinion HERE. I'm looking for the human gut reaction, a global voice of reason and a venue to talk like ordinary people who have some ideas that can't be substantiated by 'fact'.

Thank you for your opinions.

Ok...

In my opinion, OVERALL, AND FOR THE MOST PART, what thousands of people have reported and continue to report as an unidentified, living, breathing, hair-covered creature, walking on two legs in the wilderness and rural areas of North America IS NOT...

2) ...a product of mass hysteria, because there's just way too many people from all walks of life reporting. No solid psychological profile could EVER be put together to cover this if it were the case, I think.

3) ...a misidentified, known creature, because I think it's unfathomable that there's that many people seeing deformed bears OR that many people in N. America who don't know a bear when they see one. And other than a bear, or an escaped exotic, I can't think of another known creature that fits the bill. Can you?

4) ...hoaxers in costumes, because humans are not capable of some of the things being reported. And no amount of make-up and costumery could achieve some of the results reported by people who've since one close up. Plus, by now, with all the 'bring back a carcass' guys running around out there with loaded rifles, a man would have to be a serious fool to take the chance. Not to say that SOME of it isn't hoaxing, just not ALL of it.

5) ...a case of universal tall-tale-telling, because I have more faith in the human species than that would suggest.

6) ...something 'not of this world' or a shape shifter, because that's just way more silly than 'unidentified great ape' or 'relic hominid'.

7) ...a 'Find Waldo' type creature that can only be seen in photos of leaf piles, the outlines of foliage, etc, because it's completely stupid AND it does nothing to explain the 'normal' reports. It's a separate phenomenon and shouldn't even be considered as a part of BF 'lore'. It's more on the lines of 'magic mushroom' lore, frankly.

8) ...special ops recon patrol members, like this guy -- http://www.bushrag.com/store/catalog/images/Bushman2_LG.jpg -- who like to wander the wilderness not wearing any underwear, scaring the general population out of their wits, because I tend to believe that our military doesn't select thousands of insane perverts to train up to do special forces work. Sure, I'll bet they've missed a couple weirdos, maybe even a few dozen, but not HUNDREDS!

9) ...you, Robin Williams, your ex, your mother-in-law, this guy -- http://www.circusfolks.com/circus/jesusfam.gif -- or any other furry human being, because I'm pretty sure Robin Williams and your mother-in-law were busy when I had my encounter.

So that leaves me, personally with two options -- great ape/relic hominid or something no-one's suggested yet. But I'm open. I really hope this thread generates more options. I would prefer to not be labeled as someone who saw bigfoot. It would be way cool if it was something else. Then I could stop coming to BFF and spending all my free time bothering everyone with all this stuff!

My order of viability is actually mirrored in the order of the list: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, with 6 -10 not even being viable at all to me.

Oh, and I guess I should've added "...escaped exotic, because.." as well.

Hope the book is coming along.

Bigfoot is not...from France.

The BF mystery IS NOT:

1. Solved.

2. Providing any usable information about the habits, characteristics, or biology of bigfoot.

3. Accepted as a legitimate scientific endeavor.

4. Advancing by any great measure over the last 40 years.

5. Helped by youtube blobsquatch videos.

6. Going to end any time soon.

RayG

Valid... didn't mention anything about a tall hairy ape-man creature... but ok... interesting points


Neither am I.



Well, nothing for a the last few days, but no worries... Thanks for all the encouragement, georgerm!

Neither am I.



Peace
Tim

We're from Fraaaaance Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

My husband's French and he has some hair on his shoulders and he often smells like Roquefort cheese... does that count? Oh dear God! Call the National Enquirer -- I sleep with Bigfoot!!!! AAAAAAAAHHHHHH!

You guys are too funny!

Yep, I agree with this.

Bigfoot is not-

1. Smarter than us (this is the only way to explain it's ability to disappear, sneak up on us, etc...)

2. A good excuse when your wife asks you why you were out all night.

3. A good excuse when you are in a ditch and the cop asks you what happened.

4. The subject of the Patterson-Gimlin film.

5. The subject of the MDF

6. Able to bend trees like the one Ganglian posted in the recent thread for Bill Green

7. Able to fight Grizzly Bears, (Now they do team-up however, see Marvel-Team-up #41 Bigfoot and Grizzly team-up to take on Magneto)

Bigfoot is a(n): Unclassified, Hairy, Bipedal, Strong-swimming(breast stroke), omnivorous, bad-smelling, tree-bending(small ones), migratory, low-pitched auditory wave emitting, rock-throwing, hunter/gatherer, North American, Primate... (Items left out because they can't be proven: Babysitting, Cave location sensing, Brown Fat Having, Telepathic, TreeClimbing, Alien)

'Smarter'? I don't know that anyone who was careful with their usage of vernacular would ever assert that BF was 'smarter' than us. 'Better adapted to its environment' than us? Yes. 'In possession of keener senses' as most wild animals tend to be? Probably. 'Able to do some things that we can't do', like seemingly disappear into the foliage like a stick bug on a tree branch (not 'like a stick on a leaf pile', just to be very clear about that, ok?)? Obviously. But 'smarter'? I don't think you need a high intelligence quotient to 'outsmart' a domesticated, overfed, deodorant-wearing, unfit human in most wilderness scenarios when you're a wild critter in your home environment. But challenge BF to a rubiks cube solving contest, and even if you take 3 days to solve yours, you'll probably win! Or air drop a BF in South L.A. with not a tree in sight and he'll probably get himself knifed within five minutes! He's just real good at his job, that's all. And his job is staying away from you and me and putting grubs (literally) on the table!











Can't agree there.



May I show my ignorance of BF culture? MD...wha...?



But you will agree the little trees are within his repetoire, though, right?



Now, that's a youtube video I'd watch!



!!!!!!LOVE IT!!!!!!

Drew,

Sasquatch Teamed up in Marvel comics NOT Bigfoot. The US Super Heroes ARE NOT as lame as the Canadian ones!
Sasquatch is Canadian and always gets his butt kicked.

I'm not sure about the relic hominid as this sometimes is used synonomously with Bigfoot and/or Sasquatch. See link. I think not a great ape because they are bipeds, have more human like legs, feet, hands, and possilby face. Just going by reports here as I have not seen one.



Too many people have had sightings that did not result in hysteria and hysteria never became a part of their experience.



Many witnesses are experienced and/or well educated in the known creatures that live in the area of their sighting.



Have been seen a. in areas way too remote
b. doing things that human's cannot do
c. centuries of history behind them


Tall tales are usually known to be just that or another version of a similar tale. There really is no Jack Bauer.



Not open for discussion here on this forum, but most sightings do not have the shape shifter, UFO, other dimensional beings type of things being reported.



Waldo is much easier to find.



These guys (gullie suits) haven't been around as long. BF has been sighted in area where there was no military operations.



All of those mentioned and pictured here are known humans and cannot account for the centuries of sightings. There have been humans who have had this person's medical condition and it is well documented in medical journals, despite the fears of others. Remember, epileptics were once thought to be demon possesed.



You've pretty much covered the gammet.

QUOTE
7. Able to fight Grizzly Bears,
(Now they do team-up however, see Marvel-Team-up #41 Bigfoot and Grizzly team-up to take on Magneto)


I happen to own Marvel Team-Up # 41,
and it is Spiderman & The Scarlet Witch !
No Griz and no BF.
Also no Magneto.


Later,
Mike C.

I did know that and own it too. I am a comic Geek, but do not flaunt it!