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Dr Onion
I have been thinking what would happen if you were to chase a bigfoot?

In the Patterson Film the bigfoot is chased from on top of a horse, while the rider is "covered" by his companion..... We all have seen it. I was wondering if any of the members here who have seen a bigfoot has given chase. If so what happened?

I don't know if anyone has ever asked/posted about this before, so I thought I would inquire.
Riker
Never having seen one I have no answer to your question. I can't bring myself to chase a black bear, so I doubt I would be inclined to chase something that large which is running away from me because it doesn't want to chat.

Erik
moregon
Personally I would say as long as there's an avenue of escape for it, he'd most likely continue to run. The first instant it felt like it was cornered, it would be a whole other story. I'd also suggest at the moment it appeared to be tiring and it looked like he was going to make a stand at it's current position would be the time to back-off and give it a wide berth. Since we don't know if they are solitary creatures or if they spend most of their time in either close knit or loose knit families or communities keep in mind if it's making a significant amount of noise, possibly communicating with others, it may be leading YOU into a trap so be prepared for that as well. So it might take a fair amount of guts to do something like that, but the bottom line is to keep those guts where they belong, inside of you, not splattered against a tree or the side of a cliff.
Riker
I wonder. No way of knowing of course, but I doubt I could wear it down in a running contest. I have wondered about the trap thing before.

Erik
Dr Onion
QUOTE(moregon @ Mar 31 2008, 12:50 AM) *
Personally I would say as long as there's an avenue of escape for it, he'd most likely continue to run. The first instant it felt like it was cornered, it would be a whole other story. I'd also suggest at the moment it appeared to be tiring and it looked like he was going to make a stand at it's current position would be the time to back-off and give it a wide berth. Since we don't know if they are solitary creatures or if they spend most of their time in either close knit or loose knit families or communities keep in mind if it's making a significant amount of noise, possibly communicating with others, it may be leading YOU into a trap so be prepared for that as well. So it might take a fair amount of guts to do something like that, but the bottom line is to keep those guts where they belong, inside of you, not splattered against a tree or the side of a cliff.


I believe you are correct. However, I was wondering if anyone had done it and to what extent. I personally would be too chicken to even think about it. I realize my question sounds stupid on face value, but there are some pretty brave folks on here that just might have done it. I am just curious.
Angie
I did not give chase in my sighting. I did slow down and OBSERVE. In any future episodes, I will give chase. Whether I like it or not. scratchhead.gif
Tnwoods
I have chased one once - with full intent of doing it bodily harm.

Bigfoot wins the race.

Hands down - one fast critter.
Dr Onion
QUOTE(Tnwoods @ Mar 31 2008, 01:03 AM) *
I have chased one once - with full intent of doing it bodily harm.

Bigfoot wins the race.

Hands down - one fast critter.


Would you be willing to give more details about what happened. I am sorry I have not read about your encounter.

Thanks.
BobZenor
QUOTE(Dr Onion)
I believe you are correct. However, I was wondering if anyone had done it and to what extent. I personally would be too chicken to even think about it. I realize my question sounds stupid on face value, but there are some pretty brave folks on here that just might have done it. I am just curious.

There is only one guy I ever heard of who tried it.
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=129925
Tnwoods
As exciting as that tale is - it wasn't me.

Dr Onion - if you want to know PM me.

I'd be more than happy to tell you there.
Dr Onion
QUOTE(Tnwoods @ Mar 31 2008, 02:42 AM) *
As exciting as that tale is - it wasn't me.

Dr Onion - if you want to know PM me.

I'd be more than happy to tell you there.


I would like to hear it from the person who actually chased the beast.

First you said...

QUOTE(Tnwoods @ Mar 31 2008, 01:03 AM) *
I have chased one once - with full intent of doing it bodily harm.

Bigfoot wins the race.

Hands down - one fast critter.


and now ...

QUOTE(Tnwoods @ Mar 31 2008, 02:42 AM) *
As exciting as that tale is - it wasn't me.

Dr Onion - if you want to know PM me.

I'd be more than happy to tell you there.


Honestly, with the changing story I would having a hard time believing you.
JayleeD
I think Tnwoods meant that he has chased one, but his is not the story that was linked to by BobZenor. Kind of confusing but I believe that's what he meant.
Teresa
Wasn't that Bigstinkyfoot who chased one with a chainsaw?
Dr Onion
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Mar 31 2008, 03:35 AM) *
I think Tnwoods meant that he has chased one, but his is not the story that was linked to by BobZenor. Kind of confusing but I believe that's what he meant.


If that is the case Tnwoods, then I owe you an apology.
It appeared to me and my husband that you were recanting your story.
micahn
QUOTE(Dr Onion @ Mar 31 2008, 02:26 AM) *
In the Patterson Film the bigfoot is chased from on top of a horse, while the rider is "covered" by his companion.....


Now I may be wrong here but I believe you are mistaken here.
If I remember right Patterson got off his horse (Well lets say it threw him off) as soon as they seen patty. He then went forward a very short distance at first while filming. Then he moved to another place to continue filming but again was not that far so was really not chasing patty.
It is not like they chased patty from their horses.

Now on to your main question. Personally I would not go chasing one unless I was well armed and had a few people also well armed backing me up. Even then I would want to make sure it was alone and in the open. We are talking about a animal here that could be the most dangerous on earth. Not only could it have many times the strength as humans but could be almost as smart (or even smarter then some). Just think of a polar bear with human intelligence that is mad because someone is bugging it. I do not think a human would have much of a chance against it even when armed in the woods.
southernyahoo
disregard this post, editing feature cantankerous.

SY
southernyahoo
I loved this part of the story that Bob Zenor posted the link for.

QUOTE
When they came, I started to tell them about it, they all laughed, and
told me it was a bear. That night around 1 AM, every head poked out of the
tents with the most wide-eyed expression i had ever seen on hardcore
logger type guys. "What was THAT?" One of them said. "BEAR" I said,
smiling.
laugh1.gif

perhaps I will share mine when I get a chance.

SY cool.gif
Dr Onion
Regardless if Patty got off of the horse or not is not the point. He did follow for short distance. That is my point.
My question is not what might happen, or how dangerous it would be to do so. I am not interested in a hypothesis.
I want to know if any of you have chased one and what happened to you personally. What was the reaction of the bigfoot to the your chasing it. I feel like I am being treated like an idiot for asking the question in the first place. I knew the dangers and possibilities before I asked the question. I just want to know of people's personal experiences in the matter. headbang.gif
georgerm
QUOTE(Dr Onion @ Mar 31 2008, 12:14 PM) *
Regardless if Patty got off of the horse or not is not the point. He did follow for short distance. That is my point.
My question is not what might happen, or how dangerous it would be to do so. I am not interested in a hypothesis.
I want to know if any of you have chased one and what happened to you personally. What was the reaction of the bigfoot to the your chasing it. I feel like I am being treated like an idiot for asking the question in the first place. I knew the dangers and possibilities before I asked the question. I just want to know of people's personal experiences in the matter. headbang.gif


This thread question is very difficult to discuss, so we are doing our best. You are not an idiot................ya put out a hard question. Most of us have not seen a BF let alone chased one. Out of all the reports I've read, not one person chased one. Those who chased BF probably did not make it back to report. So...........where do we go from here?..........................The best story we are probably doing to hear was the one about the man chasing BF with a chain saw. That story sounded real, and he managed to bluff the BF.

I read a couple of reports of BF being chased by hound hunters, but these hunters are few in numbers now.
Can't find a report about a young BF trapped under some logs and a man watches it. The BF got away.
mkianni
QUOTE(Dr Onion @ Mar 31 2008, 02:14 PM) *
I feel like I am being treated like an idiot for asking the question in the first place.


Personally, I didn't get that impression from anything I read from those who have posted a response in this thread.
I thought you asked a very interesting question. Some threads just take a little more time to develop than others.
One poster would rather discuss his experience privately, one posted an interesting report, and another stated he may post his story when he/she gets time.
I think it's moving along quite well. And I don't think you're an idiot.
RedRatSnake
Hi

I have been reading this since it started, Waitng for an answer so i could ask questions, Cause i have often wondered it my self, There are people out there that would do the very thing you asked about, Like mkianni said give it time, thumbup.gif

And in no way do i think your an Idiot ................................ nono1.gif


Peace
Tim
peregrine
QUOTE(Dr Onion @ Mar 31 2008, 01:59 AM) *
... I was wondering if anyone had done it and to what extent...

Here’s a post describing rushing towards a (possible) sasquatch. Don’t know how reliable it is.

I’ve spoken with a retired army colonel who saw and chased one for, probably, less than half a mile. It was impossible to keep up with it in the mountainous terrain, but he did get a couple of good looks at it. Another well-known bigfoot researcher, who is also an avid bowhunter, told me that he has tried following a sasquatch for hours in Colorado, but he said you just can’t catch up with them. He said he needed a helicopter. Another person I know, a professional wildlife biologist, told me of following two sets of tracks (one large set, the other very much smaller) for miles. He was with two other individuals. They finally reached a point where they gave up. Incidentally, he said neither animal ever went down on all fours.
SoundMan
To answer the original question from the post, I suppose it would depend upon a number of factors including how close you were, how many people were with you, the gender and size of the bf and a number of other factors. My experiences tell me they are extremely shy and wary of anyone approaching and particularly in daylight will go to great lengths to avoid detection.

I had one encounter when I caught an apparent bf off guard by coming to the edge of a clearing and watching it at a distance come in my direction as I stood still. After only about 3 or 4 steps, it appeared to look up, see me, turn and quickly exit into a thick swamp at a speed I was able to estimate later from timing and use of aerials at about 35 mph. Two other occasions where it was apparent that ones were close (tracks found on the one occasion, grunt and splashing heard on the other) resulted in a chase but they quickly retreated into impassable swamp (thick subcanopy on one and cypress knees and 1 foot of water on the other).

My kids think I am rather foolish when I tell them I love to chase sharks when diving (a very rare occurrence). But I tell them, I want to get close and observe them. I did this with a bull shark one time and it zipped off before I could get within about 15 feet of it. I think it is the same with any animal, with a few exceptions. If you surprise them and go on the offensive, unless they are trapped they tend to choose to flee rather than fight, regardless of the odds of an actual fight. Where these rules become somewhat blurry is when hormonal activity level is high. Many male mammals during mating season can become highly aggressive, including normally docile animals such as white tailed deer for example. I have not researched ape behaivour in this respect but would speculate that it might be similar.

I would certainly suggest that if you starting running at an apparent bf and it does not budge, you had better be packing some serious heat, and have plenty of backup.

Soundman
southernyahoo
Well here's my experience,

I'm not sure it would qualify as chasing a bigfoot because I did not see one, but here goes. About seven months ago I was with a group of researchers in an undisclosed area of east texas located right on a river that has a history of reported activity.At about 10pm, We had split up into groups of three and were dispersed along a pathway for vehicles to access this area. We had been call blasting about every 30 minutes for about an hour or so when I heard a solid wood knock. Myself and another researcher both heard it and percieved it to be about 30 yards from us. We both concluded that it was wood on wood and that no member of our group had done it because we didn't have anyone positioned in that direction.

After radioing the others informing them of the knock, myself and my partner (who was armed) went quickly into the tree line in that direction to investigate the source of the knock. It took us about a minute to get in there looking with spotlight and camcorder but never heard anything move nor did we see anything move. I can't claim to have looked behind every tree and bush in there but whatever it was, it either snuck away quickly or it hid in silence as we searched the area. Once the others had arrived from up the path, we made a more thorough search for tracks and found an impression that might have been a bipeds footprint but was not very detailed. We did try to cast it but it turned out poorly due to the substrate being composed of a soft sand and the hydrocal we used was a quick setting compound and turned thick too quickly.

If this was human that snuck up on us,he was pretty gutsy, He couldn't count on not getting shot at under those circumstances.

SY.
Dr Onion
Thanks.
bigfootnis
I have read reports of bf giving chase and stopping when someone fell down.
RedRatSnake
QUOTE(bigfootnis @ Mar 31 2008, 08:57 PM) *
I have read reports of bf giving chase and stopping when someone fell down.


Hi

Not to put you on the spot but could you try to find them thumbup.gif

Thanks

Peace
Tim
georgerm
QUOTE(bigfootnis @ Mar 31 2008, 05:57 PM) *
I have read reports of bf giving chase and stopping when someone fell down.



Yeah, most of the time BF gives chase as a form of bluffing and clearing its territory. I've read a bunch of reports about BF bluffing and scaring hell out of the territorial invaders. Each time no physical harm comes. Maybe if BF is out of its territory, it flees first and then chasing Bf would not be a great feat. I would not be inclined to chase BF unless it was wounded. I would not chase a BF toddler since that would be a great way to get bounced off a tree. Besides, chasing BF is futile but tracking is a different method to find BF that is more feasible.
17x7
I've never seen one, so this is just opinion. I would think that giving chase would be futile unless just to get a last fleeting look at it. I don't think you could begin to keep up with one. I would guess that it would just out distance you and then 'disappear' to watch you go by. Tracking might have more promise, but again, it could just leave you behind. It's speed seems to be easily superior and I would wager it's stamina to be at least as equally superior. So even if tracking, it just leaves you and keeps going until you have to discontinue.

Tracking a wounded one does sound like it would have more promise, provided you don't get too close before it expires. I don't believe the bulletproof BF stories. Wounded animals die in the wild. Every time I read one of those reports that include someone firing on a BF and being sure that they hit it only to have it just run away, makes me squirm inside. I'd put good money on the fact that the BF died. Just not right there. Gunshot wounds are ugly. Without medical treatment, loss of blood, infection, and inability to forage = dead BF unless the wound was pretty superficial. Game animals often run a decent distance even when hit quite fataly. BF is just a big critter that can absorb a lot of punishment and keep going, but eventually those wounds take their toll. It may take a few hours, or even days, but I'm confident the BF goes down eventually. While I understand why nobody wants to follow a wounded BF into the bush, I think that may hold the answer.

17x7
911Guy
I don't know anyone who has given chase personally and have not read many stories about a person giving chase. I have two friends that had an experience in WA once. Now both of these men are of good size, both were braller's in the day. One is a former college football player. Not two guys I would mess with, if you know what I mean.
Now when they were out driving a dark and lonly road one night they crossed a bridge and then were hit with that "bigfoot" smell. Both of them talk about the "fight or flight" kicking in but both did not exit the vehicle. They then heard some "foot steps" in the area but neither of them bolted out of the car to give chase.
The point of this story is, of everyone I know I would think that these two would give chase and attempt to pluck some hair from the ole boy to show he is out there, but they just froze and they didn't even see the animal.
Now if you saw the animal, if it did give off some kind of warning pharamone(sp) or other kind of warning would you really be able to give chase. I suppose if you really were confident of your surroundings, knew your way around the area, or it was daylight and you could see maybe, but I also wonder if your most basic survival part of your brain would make sure you stayed put and just survived.
georgerm
QUOTE(17x7 @ Mar 31 2008, 11:45 PM) *
It may take a few hours, or even days, but I'm confident the BF goes down eventually. While I understand why nobody wants to follow a wounded BF into the bush, I think that may hold the answer..............

17x7


Even following one armed to the teeth could result in an ambush before a shot could be fired.

QUOTE
Both of them talk about the "fight or flight" kicking in but both did not exit the vehicle. They then heard some "foot steps" in the area but neither of them bolted out of the car to give chase.
The point of this story is, of everyone I know I would think that these two would give chase and attempt to pluck some hair from the ole boy to show he is out there, but they just froze and they didn't even see the animal. .............


The big boys are not always the bravest. Some little guys have minds of steel and are wiley brave. These opportunities to see and study BF are rare, and one wants to stay if possible. Someone should try walking slowly towards BF and stopping periodically. If it screams and acts pissed, then ends the experiment.

I have a wild domestic cat that I've been feeding for 10 days. Today is the first day it ate out of my hand! It took my finger for food but I was not hurt. Wild animals are so cautious, it takes weeks for contact. Following the cat resulted in a bolt across the yard. I imagine BF would be more hesitant, and any move towards it would result in a bolt but could result in a good chase after one.
VAFooter
I have read a few accounts of people chasing BF, with most ending with the disappearance of the big guy. I think there is one (not sure if it is true or not) that resulted in the pursuer being made unidentifiable from the remains (he was part of a duo that split up). The most interesting one I know of is the BFRO report from Panola County TX of the BF that stole a deer from a group of hunters. They followed the blood trail until the BF had enough and verbally let them know about it. The story ends up with the pursuers becoming the pursued.

Question: If you catch it, what are you going to do with it???? whistling.gif
longtabber PE
I dunno

If a BF took my deer, he would be on the skid right beside him ( and his buddies)
VAFooter
QUOTE(longtabber PE @ Apr 1 2008, 06:38 PM) *
I dunno

If a BF took my deer, he would be on the skid right beside him ( and his buddies)


They decided that discretion was the better part of valor. It was already very dark; their small, cheap flashlight was about to die; they were venturing far back into the swamps; and there were women and kids present back at the ATV's. They just figured it was best to get while the getting was good...


Edited:

Since I am basically telling the entire story, might as well post the link...

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=4139


Interestingly enough, this is also the same county where the hunter saw a female BF stalk and kill a hog.
longtabber PE
QUOTE(VAFooter @ Apr 1 2008, 06:44 PM) *
They decided that discretion was the better part of valor. It was already very dark; their small, cheap flashlight was about to die; they were venturing far back into the swamps; and there were women and kids present back at the ATV's. They just figured it was best to get while the getting was good...



If those were the circumstances, they made the correct call
jimf
I'm curious, for those that consider themselves researchers , or who like me just want to see one to know for certain that they are there. Why wouldn't you go and look to see what made that sound? What that smell was, where the tracks end?

Even if it can outdistance you if you take off in pursuit, wouldn't having that good clear view if only for a little bit be worth it ?
mkianni
QUOTE(VAFooter @ Apr 1 2008, 07:44 PM) *
Since I am basically telling the entire story, might as well post the link...

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=4139


That was a good one!
Thanks for posting that.
VAFooter
QUOTE(mkianni @ Apr 1 2008, 07:31 PM) *
That was a good one!
Thanks for posting that.


You are welcome!

It is one of my all time favorites... new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
southernyahoo
QUOTE(jimf @ Apr 1 2008, 08:19 PM) *
I'm curious, for those that consider themselves researchers , or who like me just want to see one to know for certain that they are there. Why wouldn't you go and look to see what made that sound? What that smell was, where the tracks end?

Even if it can outdistance you if you take off in pursuit, wouldn't having that good clear view if only for a little bit be worth it ?


Yes it would be worth it. It's a judgement call to just go for it though. When your out there in the dark, your relying almost exclusively on what you're hearing. You want to hear something that is clearly not a small critter before you go all out with cameras, lights and guns. I know when I was investigating the knock I heard, I was panning back and forth constantly because I had no peripheral vision, and the thought of getting ambushed from the side was almost overwhelming. Daylight persuit would be a much easier undertaking.

SY.
Teresa
If I can trip over a sprinkler in the dark on the lawn of a plantation home at the conference and break my arm can you imagine what damage I could do trying to run through a forest at break neck speed after a sasquatch? I'd run head on into a tree or fall over a stump and well... it wouldn't be pretty. LOL



QUOTE(bigfootnis @ Mar 31 2008, 07:57 PM) *
I have read reports of bf giving chase and stopping when someone fell down.


I bet he stopped to laugh...
jimf
See it's not BF you havee to be afraid of T... It's wild lawn sprinklers hiding in the woods. Those bastages will get you every time. coverlaugh.gif
Teresa
georgerm
QUOTE(southernyahoo @ Apr 1 2008, 06:48 PM) *
Yes it would be worth it. It's a judgement call to just go for it though. When your out there in the dark, your relying almost exclusively on what you're hearing. You want to hear something that is clearly not a small critter before you go all out with cameras, lights and guns. I know when I was investigating the knock I heard, I was panning back and forth constantly because I had no peripheral vision, and the thought of getting ambushed from the side was almost overwhelming. Daylight persuit would be a much easier undertaking.

SY.


You have a good point, since judgement is the key. We returned whistles about 6 times and something was about 300 yds ahead in an open fern covered forest at dusk. Chase is not the word, but I slowly followed the direction of the whistles. It seemed to stay ahead about 300 yds and out of vision. My assumption is if I walk in a nonaggressive manner, then it won't ambush me........................famous last words. A judgement call. Well, my wife finally called and said she was taking the car so I discontinued my slow chase...........Maybe BFs are not this warm, shy, peaceful animal, that runs from pursuers. Every year we have solitary hikers disappear in the Oregon forest, and were they following whistles?
Tnwoods
Hi, haven't been here in a few days.

I meant that story wasn't mine. Sorry for any confusion about that Dr Onion.

Easier to give chase when it's not dark. Same result, BF gets away. They are quick.
bushmaster
I would give chase to one If I had a fast moving squad with heat sensing gear and both lethal and non-lethal weapons. Lethal being last resort. But this being hypothetical and all, If I was rolling down a trail and came across one, I would probably sh*t myself. faint.gif
Drew
Maybe an Unclassified, Hairy, Bipedal, Babysitting Primate stops chasing someone when they fall. Or maybe there wasn't really a bigfoot chasing them...
todtkaufman
The boys in Oklahoma do give chase to bigfoot, there is one case where 3 of them armed with a camcorder and spotlight ran towards several bigfoot with the intention of getting video. They didn't get them on tape, but they did give chase.
RedRatSnake
Hi


Been giving this a lot of thought, I think and i am pretty sure that if i had enough contact with some BF and felt a bit comfortable with it all, That at some point i would try to get closer and maybe have to run a bit there way, Now i am not saying running like i was going to charge the Big Guy but just try to get close and maybe show him or them i mean no harm, There are not many sightings around my way but if someday soon i don't show back up in the forum you know what happened to me, So don't follow in my foot steps OK thumbup.gif


Peace
Tim
born 2-11-61 -- Dismantled: some time in the summer of 2008 ( Rest In Pieces )
bipedalist
QUOTE(todtkaufman @ Apr 2 2008, 04:07 PM) *
The boys in Oklahoma do give chase to bigfoot, there is one case where 3 of them armed with a camcorder and spotlight ran towards several bigfoot with the intention of getting video. They didn't get them on tape, but they did give chase.


Well unless particular family groups of Bigfoot like to play "tag your it" so much for their chances at approaching that group again, I guess they had their "one and out" as described by others.
I'm hopeful that they will get return visits but it doesn't seem very promising unless they were using ir spotlights of the right wavelength and sony supernightshot or thermal imagery devices.
bipedalist
QUOTE(Teresa @ Apr 1 2008, 09:49 PM) *
If I can trip over a sprinkler in the dark on the lawn of a plantation home at the conference and break my arm can you imagine what damage I could do trying to run through a forest at break neck speed after a sasquatch? I'd run head on into a tree or fall over a stump and well... it wouldn't be pretty. LOL


I bet he stopped to laugh...



I have heard unknown bipedals suspected of being sasquatch fall and hit the steep mountainside of wet leaves where I research one night (no I didn't water down the leaves despite what I am instructed to do to create mudpuddles and such for tracks by others) and,, yes, I muffled my laugh as best as I could without blowing my cover. So this research can be a lot of fun as long as you are not the one falling and being chased. evillaugh.gif
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