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DZ302
Have you guys debunked this yet?

http://www.hunttv.com/

In the lower left corner of the page.
RavenMadd
Cool .....still looks kinda like my ex..........in her housecoat

thanx ......
PinelandsResearcher
Here we go...
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey everyone wowww very interesting possible sasquatch filmfootage indeedy but more research etc needs to be done to it honest opinions seriously. thanks bill green thumbup.gif
dogu4
Defintely not a mangy bear this time. I'd love to see it clean up a bit.
jimf
Unless a Bigfoot has wrinkles in his shoulder , that isn't one.
youcan'tseeme
Odd footage, my gut says it's legit. But something just screams fake to me.
RedRatSnake
QUOTE(PinelandsResearcher @ Mar 6 2008, 10:06 PM) *
Here we go...



Hi

yup coverlaugh.gif

Peace
Tim
Huntster
Very interesting, indeed. Eichler's explanation is a great performance if phony.

Appears a bit blocky. And, like usual, it's but a glimpse.

Meaningless, even if it's the real thing.
Redwolf
Can anyone here get some screen captures?
peregrine
QUOTE(Redwolf @ Mar 6 2008, 10:49 PM) *
Can anyone here get some screen captures?

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Ty
Same as Peregrine's only larger....

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billgreen2005bigfoot
hey everyone these are again very interesting possible sasquatch photos very clear could be authentic but the people who took the photos be seriously interviewed etc by researchers here. thanks bill keep me posted ok... smile.gif
Dread
That's pretty interesting....

But why is it you can get crystal clear game cam photo's of mice, rabbits, squirrles, deer, elk, kids on tricycles, but all of the supposed bigfoot photos are fuzzy? scratchhead.gif
StacyInMI
Guy in a coat and hat...
micahn
Seems a obvious fake to me.
Drew
a hunter
DZ302
QUOTE(Dread @ Mar 7 2008, 03:47 AM) *
That's pretty interesting....

But why is it you can get crystal clear game cam photo's of mice, rabbits, squirrles, deer, elk, kids on tricycles, but all of the supposed bigfoot photos are fuzzy? scratchhead.gif


I read somewhere that it's because of their magical powers. They have the ability to transport to other dimensions which causes them to disappear from sight. Because of this magical "aura" that surrounds them they cannot be photographed clearly....that is unless they want to be.
DonDon
Looks like a guy in a Ghille suit to me. Square looking head and all so has ome kinda lightweight frame on it. My guess anyways but ain't no monster LOL
slewfoot
Why would the camera take a picture of the subject as it was just leaving the target area and not while it was entering the target area?

I call BS. Publicity gimmick.
BC Cryptid
Guy wearing a gilly suit. Looks like he's got a pack on his back, too. They were probably goofing around with the cameras and he was testing it, and they decided to pull a fast one, probably to demonstrate a new line of 3D camo clothing. These suits will cause more false sightings, too. I'm sure next week they will come clean and promo the clothing. Dressing up like a sasquatch is not exactly the best way to hide from deer, since it's one of their most dangerous predators..
-DC-
QUOTE(slewfoot @ Mar 7 2008, 10:21 AM) *
Why would the camera take a picture of the subject as it was just leaving the target area and not while it was entering the target area?

I call BS. Publicity gimmick.


I found that rather odd as well. The arms seem rather short to me also. scratchhead.gif
Redwolf
Thanks for the still shots.

I would say they caught some guy (or planted) in hunting gear and thought it looked cool enough to pull a little hoax.


RW
cryptidon
Why wouldn't they think this was simply another hunter?
DZ302
QUOTE(cryptidon @ Mar 7 2008, 09:53 AM) *
Why wouldn't they think this was simply another hunter?


Yes, rather than explaining how he had an uneasy feeling, why not explain why (in his opinion) there would not have been another person in this area.
Noodle
QUOTE(slewfoot @ Mar 7 2008, 09:21 AM) *
Why would the camera take a picture of the subject as it was just leaving the target area and not while it was entering the target area?

I call BS. Publicity gimmick.


I wondered that too, but examine the moving film and watch the branches. Remember, the moderator mentioned that this had tripped the cam when it was 15 feet from the target zone. In the first frame, there is a branch in motion that extends toward the target area. It seems to me this creature brushed a branch that moved in the zone and tripped the camera, so we just catch it leaving.

This is a legit site; I tend to think this may be the real deal here.
sloth33
Looks to me like they are trying to ride the PA Trailcam picture wave (if there ever was one). More hits to the site more ads ect...

Always funny how these trail cams seem to catch half of the subject.

Can't wait for some good footage to come out!!

Kyle
Hitechhunter
I think you're being a little too quick to pour cold water on it, it's not a race to see who can say something is fake first. Opinions don't matter, data does. Can anyone do limb-to-torso ratios on it? What other scientific analysis can be done on the images? Can the gait or arm-swing be measured and compared to PGF?

I've used a lot of game cams and it can be tricky to get them to trigger from the side.
cryptidon
Unless the original cam content has far superior resolution, indicating the subject is anything other than human, I'm just not seeing it. It looks to me like a fleeting glimpse of someone in heavy hunting gear.

I don't think the footage is hoaxed.

I can only assume that there are other factors, that may have occured to the host - that are not divulged in the context of the clip that raise questions about the event.
Hitechhunter
The thing bumped some branches with it's head, it would be nice to know how far off the ground those branches were.
Furious_George
Hmm, short clip, mostly out of frame, dark figure, blurry....... must be a bigfoot.
blair Tucker
Saw this video on a hunting site. Interesting.
Scroll down and click on video.

http://www.hunttv.com/
Robert
Been there. Done that.

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...c=22100&hl=
Elder
Very interesting! Too bad the trail cam they used tiggered so late after the subject crossed its field of view. With the little bit of whats there, the arm looked to short and the left shoulder looked to square to be natural.
sagehunter
Arms look to short, I have game cams they trip faster than this if it did indeed walk past the camera

Also who is this guy and whats his back ground?
blair Tucker
Any decent footage would have been held back for some $.
Sorry for the repeat, but I did look before I posted.
Killain
Some game cams are silent digital with infrared illumination. Some are noisy with an obvious shutter trip and strobe flash. The reason the subject wasn't photographed in full frame, is because he never was in full frame. He came from the left and exited from the left. It appears that he observed the camera and faded back out of sight, rather than walk into the video field.
willie red fire
QUOTE(Killain @ Mar 7 2008, 06:01 PM) *
Some game cams are silent digital with infrared illumination. Some are noisy with an obvious shutter trip and strobe flash. The reason the subject wasn't photographed in full frame, is because he never was in full frame. He came from the left and exited from the left. It appears that he observed the camera and faded back out of sight, rather than walk into the video field.


I'll agree with that.

I think its hilarious how people jump to a fake conclusion.

Game cams are designed to catch game. What we need is a BigFoot Cam designed to catch BIGFOOT. humm.. scratchhead.gif Cash in on Bigfoot. new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
Zonie
When you do the play-pause-play routine there seems to be too much movement in the background foliage just to the right of the subject... like it was stop action or frame by frame. It just doesn't look quite right to me... scratchhead.gif

Alan
Hitechhunter
No picture will ever be enough now that we have digital technology and Photoshop. Anybody seriously hunting with a camera is foolish, you need to kill one with a magnum rifle to end the debate.
bipedalist
QUOTE(Ty @ Mar 7 2008, 12:25 AM) *
Same as Peregrine's only larger....

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Looks like a guy in a bee keepers suit, an attack dog suit, a strange squared off ghillie suit or perhaps somebody
in a very strange camouflage suit. Get it......suit
julio12
What has me is listening to easten speak about the freaky feeling he had while in that area which is typical of an encounter.Somehow the subject knows that this stealth cam is there and approaches it from the back side of it but some how manages to get picked by the stealth cam.What ever this is some how knew that no one was around and decided to investigate, now this is all speculation on my part but i believe that this what could have happen.This could be a hoax on there part but why would create this hoax .One reason could be to further permote there show for up and coming seasons but again this could all be speculation on my part.
willie red fire
julio12 you have a point. I never heard of HUNT TV before and now I may watch the show. Cash in on BF.
Gigantofootecus
Human head/shoulders, IMO.

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PinelandsResearcher
I talked to some buddies who hunt and watch this show frequently. They do not believe in bigfoot. They do believe that the gentleman in the video is legit. He is a guide on the show. If others from the website/show were hoaxing him, they probably would have stopped him before he released it on the website so he wouldn't lose credibility with his viewers. (Bigfoot doesn't always bring the right kind of attention - we're all crazy if we believe). My buddies did think it could be that someone not affiliated with the show was hoaxing him, or it was a guy in a ghillie suit, except that ghillie suits aren't frequently used for bear hunting. The game cam picked up the person/creature as it entered the motion area or as it moved the branch in the motion area - which could be why there are only 9 frames. In my opinion, inconclusive but very cool and intriguing. More credible than youtube. Just my opinion. Can anyone like Morgoth, Ty, Peregrine, DDA etc. (sorry to leave any pros out) get more from the video or pull an image and clean it up?
PinelandsResearcher
The gentleman is Fred Eichler. He is the host of Easton Bowhunters on the Outdoor Network. He owns Fulldraw Outfitters, a hunting guide company in Colorado. He appears to be a highly respected hunting guide and a very good bow hunter. I emailed him. I'll update if I get a reply.
Ronnie Bass
QUOTE(youcan @ Mar 6 2008, 11:01 PM) *
Odd footage, my gut says it's legit. But something just screams fake to me.

Uh, wouldn't that have been your gut? wacko.gif
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey pinelandresearcher yes please keep us updated if you get a update reply indeed. bill
Killain
QUOTE(willie red fire @ Mar 7 2008, 05:25 PM) *
I'll agree with that.

I think its hilarious how people jump to a fake conclusion.

Game cams are designed to catch game. What we need is a BigFoot Cam designed to catch BIGFOOT. humm.. scratchhead.gif Cash in on Bigfoot. new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif



I'm not saying it's not fake. I'm simply responding to some of the comments made by people who don't understand motion activated cameras. They don't take video clips per se. Most of the cheaper ones take still shots that are separated by a significant amount of time. Some of the better ones take still shots but much more rapidly and these can be replayed to make a jerky video or sorts. The initial motion that sets them off can be adjusted to a point, but for the most part there is at least a second or more from the detection of the motion, to the first shot. A man walking at a normal pace can cover 8 feet at least. That's why many of the game shots look like they are off center of the photographs. Only the ones where the animal is standing stationary in the center of the field of view turn out really great.

I get the impression that someone/something entered from the left field of view, recognized or noticed the camera, and walked back out of the field of view in the same direction they first approached.

I'm an avid bow hunter. That's not "obviously" a bowhunting outfit. Notice I didn't say "that's obviously not a bowhunting outfit." It's undeterminable with the photo as shown whether it's a ghilly, a suit of fur, a hunter or a mystical creature known as bigfoot. But the reasons against the video are nor more valid than those pro. It's all speculation.

K
Gigantofootecus
QUOTE(PinelandsResearcher @ Mar 7 2008, 09:52 PM) *
..Can anyone like Morgoth, Ty, Peregrine, DDA etc. (sorry to leave any pros out) get more from the video or pull an image and clean it up?

Pine, nothing more can be "brought out" from these images. The resolution of a digital image is cast in stone. In this case we are stuck with small images that have been converted for an online video. The original images might show more detail (better resolution), otherwise, the current images are limited by the number of pixels that you see on your screen and a screenshot is the best res you can attain.

Ty's enlarged image is the best we can do. Anything else done to these images would be taking liberties. Blowing up a small digital image doesn't give us any additional information. It's actually a bit of a cheat, since we must "soften" the pixelation (blockiness) that is evident when you blow up an image beyond its resolution (such as digital zoom). Even the best edge detection and sharpening algorithms can only work on pixel colors that are present in the image. All you can really do to a digital image is contrast/brighten and sharpen pixels. You can attempt to improve the focus to a very limited degree (de-convolution) and simulate lens corrective methods such as spherical or color aberration, but only if these distortions were present in the original images. Otherwise, the number of distinct pixels sets the resolution limits.

Unfortunately, many images you see on the internet have had their colors "quantized" or reduced to make the file size smaller so they can download faster. For example, all GIF files only have 256 distinct colors max (or less). This means that subtle color differences have been merged, such as from 16 million to 256, which wipes out fine detail (if present). In this case, there isn't any more fine detail to bring out in the dark area that defines the subject. Once you blow up the images and color contrast them, that's all she wrote. All the fancy enhancement algorithms can do is attempt to interpolate data that isn't there.
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