For those of you that have bigfoot activity in your vicinity, Do you have local legends that may be bf related?
"Red Eyes" is the local bogeyman around here. Huge, dark, with glowing red eyes and a monster.
Then there is the legend of "Crybaby Bridge"--Late at night at a certain bridge in the country over a railroad track or former track--a baby is said to be heard crying. The bridge had a place for parkers to pull over. It is said some woman threw her baby off the bridge and it cries at midnight.
Do any here have similar local legend?
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Funny you should mention the "cry baby bridge."
I grew up with one in Prince Georges Co. Md.
I thought it was the only one of its kind until I ran a searched thanks to your post.
In high school, it was a great place to take the girls at night with a few beers and some Boone's Farm wine.
Anyway................
Found it here.
We do have some local 'monsters' in Maryland that would be good candidates for Bigfoot, although the names escape me now.
I'll search around to see what I can find.
I grew up with one in Prince Georges Co. Md.
I thought it was the only one of its kind until I ran a searched thanks to your post.
In high school, it was a great place to take the girls at night with a few beers and some Boone's Farm wine.
Anyway................
Found it here.
We do have some local 'monsters' in Maryland that would be good candidates for Bigfoot, although the names escape me now.
I'll search around to see what I can find.
Hi
Around my way we have the Bridgewater triangle, it is a spooky place with all kinds of different things going on, it is about 10 or so miles away, i have to drive by the area on my way to work most days
http://members.aol.com/soccorro64/btriangle.htm
Peace
Tim
Around my way we have the Bridgewater triangle, it is a spooky place with all kinds of different things going on, it is about 10 or so miles away, i have to drive by the area on my way to work most days
http://members.aol.com/soccorro64/btriangle.htm
Peace
Tim
The sound of a crying baby pops up in legends. I'm not sure if its ever surfaced in an actual report.
It would be an excellent way to lure humans away from shelter.
Or maybe its just a crying baby BF.
It would be an excellent way to lure humans away from shelter.
Or maybe its just a crying baby BF.
Growing up in Oregon, I remember two cases. One was of a wild woman near Vernonia that would come steal young children or campers. The second I remember is of a 'Forest Giant' that would walk through the forest and sit on a 'throne' (a large stump) - don't quite remember the location of the second tale.
There is also a cry baby bridge in indiana I just read about it in the hoosier folklore book or maybe it was haunted indiana.
this is a interesting new thread about sasquatch. thanks bill 
Down near hattiesburg, MS they have the BOUMONT BOOGER. Don;t know much about it but have talked to a few that have heard it called that before
The Native Americans of New Jersey called bigfoot "Swamp People" 
I grew up just south of Atlanta, and there were sightings of a critter the locals had dubbed Pig Man. As I recall the supposed creature was said to have a special affinity for pig meat. I remember articles about it in the local paper with interviews with farmers who had found the semi-consumed carcasses of their hogs hanging in the lower branches of trees 8-10' from the ground. There were a couple of months in which each weekly edition had new stories on it. Quite a few were in an area I used to hunt frequently.
Around here we have "Screaming Bridge" which was fairly well known amongst kids in my generation back in the 1980's. We have an area here in Fort Worth that we used to and I still do refer to as "the bottoms" which is the Trinity River bottoms, a low lying flood plain with thicket and woods.
The area has since been somewhat developed with a subdivision and irrigation canals to keep it from flooding during rains but it is still pretty heavily wooded.
I previously hiked to and found what some believe to be the actual screaming bridge. It is closed to the public and does not have any current roads that lead to it. It spans a portion of the Trinity River and is located within River Legacy Park in Arlington, TX and off of the public trails.
http://www.dfwparanormalresearch.com/screamingbridge.html
This YouTube video is of a young man who went to the same bridge that I did and taped it. This bridge is not the original and true Screaming Bridge as it was torn down, but is close to the original. Anyways, a lot of today's kids think that this is the one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZyEsALKi8I
The area has since been somewhat developed with a subdivision and irrigation canals to keep it from flooding during rains but it is still pretty heavily wooded.
I previously hiked to and found what some believe to be the actual screaming bridge. It is closed to the public and does not have any current roads that lead to it. It spans a portion of the Trinity River and is located within River Legacy Park in Arlington, TX and off of the public trails.
http://www.dfwparanormalresearch.com/screamingbridge.html
This YouTube video is of a young man who went to the same bridge that I did and taped it. This bridge is not the original and true Screaming Bridge as it was torn down, but is close to the original. Anyways, a lot of today's kids think that this is the one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZyEsALKi8I
I'm very glad this topic was brought up. Everyone please keep up the great posts on the topic. Even if not BF related the folklorists are paying close attention.
There was another one in the hoosier folk legends book about a huge hairy man that has been taking children for years.
hey Prehistoric Fisherman i read a report a few days ago about a BFRO expedition, on some lake , i think it was recent and i think it was in Texas, the reporter and his crew were abandoned by the BFRO and they claim they corned a young female after they heard a baby crying. He said that several more threw rocks at them and when he shined his light in their direction the creature disappeared. the chinese cannot build a spotlight that will shine more than 15 yards
HrPuffingstuff i grew up north of Atlanta on Lookout mountain, my son is a programmer for a software co, in Duluth, a friend of mine took a leak on one at Mentone park, It was standing on a ledge under the rim of the mountain only a few feet away, it was late at night and him and a friend were riding double on a motorcycle,drinking beer ,went to the park to take a leak, he said that it had red eyed and its head was big as a basketball, needless to say they didnt stay long
I remember reading the novel True Grit by Charles Portis. Somewhere in the novel I remember the main character, who is a fourteen year old girl, say something about not wanting to wander outside at night for fear of the Boogie Man getting her. What struck me was that the novel is set in the Kiamichi and Quachita Mountains of SE Oklahoma which is known for its numerous BF sightings. I started wondering if there was any connection between the Boogie Man legend and BF.
There is some cool stuff on "The Bogeyman" in Wikipedia:
"Bogeyman tales vary by region. In some places the bogeyman is male; in others, female, and in others, both. In some Midwestern states of the United States, the bogeyman scratches at the window."
"In the Pacific Northwest he may manifest in 'green fog.' "
There is some cool stuff on "The Bogeyman" in Wikipedia:
"Bogeyman tales vary by region. In some places the bogeyman is male; in others, female, and in others, both. In some Midwestern states of the United States, the bogeyman scratches at the window."
"In the Pacific Northwest he may manifest in 'green fog.' "
QUOTE(grump13 @ Oct 23 2008, 08:04 PM) 
HrPuffingstuff i grew up north of Atlanta on Lookout mountain, my son is a programmer for a software co, in Duluth, a friend of mine took a leak on one at Mentone park, It was standing on a ledge under the rim of the mountain only a few feet away, it was late at night and him and a friend were riding double on a motorcycle,drinking beer ,went to the park to take a leak, he said that it had red eyed and its head was big as a basketball, needless to say they didnt stay long
Wait a minute, are you saying your friend took a leak on a bigfoot?
This is one I learned about last year. I live about twenty minutes away from Churubusco.
The following is taken from Northern Indiana Perspective.
By GARY KAUFFMAN
Aside from Godzilla, few animals have made an impact on a town the way Oscar did on Churubusco.
Oscar, you might guess, was something fierce, like a grizzly bear, a wolverine or at least a Doberman Pinscher. But take a drive through the little town of Churubusco and you'll quickly realize that Oscar was a turtle.
In fact, Churubusco is obsessed with the turtle motif ‚š€š a turtle guards the entrance to the park, adorns the town's letterhead and is popularized on the signs of many businesses.
But Oscar wasn't some box turtle you might crush on the highway. Oscar was the Godzilla of turtles, a turtle known as The Beast of Busco.
Churubusco, located 15 miles north of Fort Wayne, boasts a population of 1,800. In an odd twist of fate, the Indian chief who lived in the area when the first white settler came was named Little Turtle. A post office made Churubusco an official town in 1847. But for the first 100 years of its existence 'Busco was virtually unknown. Then Oscar came to town.
Reports claimed Oscar's shell could have been used as a dining room table. His neck was likened to a stove pipe and his head was the size of a child's.
"One report said it was as big as the top of a car, and in the 1940s, the top of a car was pretty good sized," says Chuck Mathieu, president of the Churubusco town council and manager of Egolf's IGA. Mathieu was alive then, but just barely, so he never saw Oscar.
The trouble was, the number of people who didn't see Oscar greatly outnumbered those who did. Of the people who saw The Beast of Busco, only one man was sure of what he'd seen. That man was Gale Harris, who owned the property containing Fulk Lake, which Oscar called home.
Some people weren't sure about Harris' report of this enormous turtle; many others simply ridiculed him. In March 1949, Harris launched a massive effort to track down the beast and display him to the world.
"He wanted to prove to people that he hadn't imagined it," says Viv Rosswurm, managing editor of the Churubusco News.
The search began during a lull in major news. Editors across the nation latched onto the story, splashing the search in headlines from coast to coast. Soon people in New York and Chicago were as interested in Harris' search as the people in Churubusco.
Ultimately, illness and bad luck forced Harris to call off his search before finding Oscar. The turtle was never seen again. But far from dying away, the legend of Oscar grew. Probably more people believe in Oscar now than did in 1949.
"I think most of them want to believe," Mathieu says. "They think there was something there, although it may not have been the actual size. I'm sure as the years have gone on, the turtle has grown."
Rosswurm knows the people of Churubusco believe in Oscar. "Especially the old timers. They all knew somebody who saw it. They're pretty protective about the fact that it was real."
There are even some new theories about the giant turtle. "There are those who think it was a hoax," Rosswurm says. "But you probably won't find them in Churubusco."
Churubusco quickly latched onto the turtle theme, starting the Turtle Days Festival in 1950. It is still celebrated every June. Turtle Days has all the traditional features such as rides, games, food stands, a merchants tent, a parade and entertainment every night. But the highlight is the Turtle Races, a four-hour event as turtle after turtle is eliminated until one emerges as a winner. These turtles, though, are the size of a dessert plate, not a dining room table. Merchants also recognized a good thing when they saw it.
Even today, a shopping mall is called Turtle Town Plaza. A car dealership goes by the name Oscar's Autos, with a picture of a turtle. Even the town government adorns its official logo with a picture of a happy turtle.
"The town did balk, though, about naming the school team the ‚š€œSnappers' or ‚š€œTurtles,'" Rosswurm says. Instead, they became the Churubusco Eagles. An eagle is the most important symbol of the United States, stirring feelings national pride. But in Churubusco, it is nothing compared to the turtle.
There are more stories about oscar here. http://www.churubusco.net/ click on the turtle days link.
The following is taken from Northern Indiana Perspective.
By GARY KAUFFMAN
Aside from Godzilla, few animals have made an impact on a town the way Oscar did on Churubusco.
Oscar, you might guess, was something fierce, like a grizzly bear, a wolverine or at least a Doberman Pinscher. But take a drive through the little town of Churubusco and you'll quickly realize that Oscar was a turtle.
In fact, Churubusco is obsessed with the turtle motif ‚š€š a turtle guards the entrance to the park, adorns the town's letterhead and is popularized on the signs of many businesses.
But Oscar wasn't some box turtle you might crush on the highway. Oscar was the Godzilla of turtles, a turtle known as The Beast of Busco.
Churubusco, located 15 miles north of Fort Wayne, boasts a population of 1,800. In an odd twist of fate, the Indian chief who lived in the area when the first white settler came was named Little Turtle. A post office made Churubusco an official town in 1847. But for the first 100 years of its existence 'Busco was virtually unknown. Then Oscar came to town.
Reports claimed Oscar's shell could have been used as a dining room table. His neck was likened to a stove pipe and his head was the size of a child's.
"One report said it was as big as the top of a car, and in the 1940s, the top of a car was pretty good sized," says Chuck Mathieu, president of the Churubusco town council and manager of Egolf's IGA. Mathieu was alive then, but just barely, so he never saw Oscar.
The trouble was, the number of people who didn't see Oscar greatly outnumbered those who did. Of the people who saw The Beast of Busco, only one man was sure of what he'd seen. That man was Gale Harris, who owned the property containing Fulk Lake, which Oscar called home.
Some people weren't sure about Harris' report of this enormous turtle; many others simply ridiculed him. In March 1949, Harris launched a massive effort to track down the beast and display him to the world.
"He wanted to prove to people that he hadn't imagined it," says Viv Rosswurm, managing editor of the Churubusco News.
The search began during a lull in major news. Editors across the nation latched onto the story, splashing the search in headlines from coast to coast. Soon people in New York and Chicago were as interested in Harris' search as the people in Churubusco.
Ultimately, illness and bad luck forced Harris to call off his search before finding Oscar. The turtle was never seen again. But far from dying away, the legend of Oscar grew. Probably more people believe in Oscar now than did in 1949.
"I think most of them want to believe," Mathieu says. "They think there was something there, although it may not have been the actual size. I'm sure as the years have gone on, the turtle has grown."
Rosswurm knows the people of Churubusco believe in Oscar. "Especially the old timers. They all knew somebody who saw it. They're pretty protective about the fact that it was real."
There are even some new theories about the giant turtle. "There are those who think it was a hoax," Rosswurm says. "But you probably won't find them in Churubusco."
Churubusco quickly latched onto the turtle theme, starting the Turtle Days Festival in 1950. It is still celebrated every June. Turtle Days has all the traditional features such as rides, games, food stands, a merchants tent, a parade and entertainment every night. But the highlight is the Turtle Races, a four-hour event as turtle after turtle is eliminated until one emerges as a winner. These turtles, though, are the size of a dessert plate, not a dining room table. Merchants also recognized a good thing when they saw it.
Even today, a shopping mall is called Turtle Town Plaza. A car dealership goes by the name Oscar's Autos, with a picture of a turtle. Even the town government adorns its official logo with a picture of a happy turtle.
"The town did balk, though, about naming the school team the ‚š€œSnappers' or ‚š€œTurtles,'" Rosswurm says. Instead, they became the Churubusco Eagles. An eagle is the most important symbol of the United States, stirring feelings national pride. But in Churubusco, it is nothing compared to the turtle.
There are more stories about oscar here. http://www.churubusco.net/ click on the turtle days link.
Here is my favorite part of the oscar story.
One day, he reportedly saw a colossal snapping turtle, estimated at 15 feet in length, basking on the lakeside. Terrified, he called the police; when they arrived, the giant reptile was still there. A plan was devised to drag the beast from the water with chains pulled by 4 Clydesdale horses; when initiated, the turtle and horses were evenly matched, but the chains broke. "Oscar" escaped, never to be seen again. Being cold-blooded, he presumably died of exhaustion from the struggle. Oscar's memory lives on in Churubusco's Turtle Days festival held each June. It includes a parade, carnival and turtle races.
One day, he reportedly saw a colossal snapping turtle, estimated at 15 feet in length, basking on the lakeside. Terrified, he called the police; when they arrived, the giant reptile was still there. A plan was devised to drag the beast from the water with chains pulled by 4 Clydesdale horses; when initiated, the turtle and horses were evenly matched, but the chains broke. "Oscar" escaped, never to be seen again. Being cold-blooded, he presumably died of exhaustion from the struggle. Oscar's memory lives on in Churubusco's Turtle Days festival held each June. It includes a parade, carnival and turtle races.
nightscream yeah , let me explain. He and a friend had been to the ga state line and bought some beer. after drinking it they had to relieve themselves.it was late at night so they rode to the city park, understand that this is a rural community, they standing on the rim of Lookout mountain, just below the rim ten to twelve feet there is a ledge that extends out about 40 feet then slopes to the valley floor, BF was standing on this ledge underneath the rim, they actually above him,and yeah he got peed on, must have got peed off his eyes were red, there is a security light and pic nic tables at this location, if i didnt know the man i wouldnt believe it either , a few nights later BF was seen by another man that i know, crossing the road between valley head ,ala and Mentone, which is about a mile from the park, a few days later he was seen on the road to Desoto Falls, two miles from the park. they called him The Wolfman for lack of a better explanation,
QUOTE(grump13 @ Oct 23 2008, 09:04 PM)
HrPuffingstuff i grew up north of Atlanta on Lookout mountain, my son is a programmer for a software co, in Duluth, a friend of mine took a leak on one at Mentone park, It was standing on a ledge under the rim of the mountain only a few feet away, it was late at night and him and a friend were riding double on a motorcycle,drinking beer ,went to the park to take a leak, he said that it had red eyed and its head was big as a basketball, needless to say they didnt stay long
Sounds like a *Messing with Sasquatch* commercial. While I'd love to see one grump13, I'd prefer to do so without my *little buddy* in my hand. 
This one sounds like a big foot legend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQTF3h8ogeU...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQTF3h8ogeU...feature=related
QUOTE(HRPuffnstuff @ Oct 24 2008, 06:57 AM)
Sounds like a *Messing with Sasquatch* commercial. While I'd love to see one grump13, I'd prefer to do so without my *little buddy* in my hand. 
Too funny, and I thought I had "big b*lls" 
I don't know if this is "local legend" or just a story. When I went to summer camp in the Smoky Mtns in Tennessee, at some point during the week our cabin (8 or 10 guys) would hike a couple of hours away from the big camp (cabins, mess hall etc) and sleep in the woods for a night. One of the older leaders would tell the story of the "Ya-Hoos" around the campfire. I don't remember the details, but the basics of the story were that there were Ya-Hoos that roamed the forests. As the story goes, the Ya-Hoos were desendants of ancient indians that were cast out of the tribe for some evil deed. Each generation they became larger, more hairy and meaner. They lost the ability to speak, but would call out "YA-HOO" (hence the name).
Of course as the first leader was telling the story to a bunch of 12 year olds around the fire, the 2nd would sneak off into the woods and make some spooky noise. At the end of the story, the 2nd guy would come running into the the camp screaming and scare everyone.
Of course as the first leader was telling the story to a bunch of 12 year olds around the fire, the 2nd would sneak off into the woods and make some spooky noise. At the end of the story, the 2nd guy would come running into the the camp screaming and scare everyone.
> hey Prehistoric Fisherman i read a report a few days ago about a BFRO expedition, on some lake , i
> think it was recent and i think it was in Texas,
That narrows it down some. With their map interface I might be able to find it without too much trouble.
> the reporter and his crew were abandoned by the BFRO
There's a T-Shirt somewhere in that sentence. 8)
> and they claim they corned a young female after they heard a baby crying. He said that several
> more threw rocks at them and when he shined his light in their direction the creature disappeared.
Very interesting. If I ever get the time I'll have to track it down, unless someone can put there finger on it.
> the chinese cannot build a spotlight that will shine more than 15 yards
Well, I'm working in my own way to beat them at that, in infrared. Of course, using the proverbial "stone knives and bear skins". (that's an inside joke)
I really do appreciate all the stories you guys are coming up with and while I was mildly skeptical at first (there's a lot of urban legends out there) I now have some reasons to believe they really do have a bearing on the subject matter of the forum.
> think it was recent and i think it was in Texas,
That narrows it down some. With their map interface I might be able to find it without too much trouble.
> the reporter and his crew were abandoned by the BFRO
There's a T-Shirt somewhere in that sentence. 8)
> and they claim they corned a young female after they heard a baby crying. He said that several
> more threw rocks at them and when he shined his light in their direction the creature disappeared.
Very interesting. If I ever get the time I'll have to track it down, unless someone can put there finger on it.
> the chinese cannot build a spotlight that will shine more than 15 yards
Well, I'm working in my own way to beat them at that, in infrared. Of course, using the proverbial "stone knives and bear skins". (that's an inside joke)
I really do appreciate all the stories you guys are coming up with and while I was mildly skeptical at first (there's a lot of urban legends out there) I now have some reasons to believe they really do have a bearing on the subject matter of the forum.
I haven't had much to say other than words of encouragment here because I've been pretty busy, in part producing the following. I've estimated locations as best as possible. If you have any suggestions for corrections feel free to contribute. If anyone has any futher locations please join in. Some locations I am still researching, and others I didn't get enough information to plot accurately. Sorry for the shortness of my comments, but I'm out of time again today. All remarks are made in good humor.
Art, any idea where Red Eyes is allegedly seen?
DonDon, found Beaumont - this is a different spelling, but I'm fairly sure it is the likely location.
kanetaker5566, you were just talking about a humongous turtle, and not a BF confused with a turtle (not that it's not an interesting cryptozoological story)? I'll have to check the Youtube link, unless someone has time to summarize it first. The mentions from the Hoosier folklore book are of interest, but I'm not really in a position to track that down further without your help.
HRPuffnstuff, there are some known reports south of Atlanta, do you have any more specific locations or dates?
Nightscream, I tried to even find the general area of your bridge, but do to the size of the River Legacy Park and the several branches of the Trinity River (and not being a local) I really have no clue, other than to place it in a 2.5 mile radius between Dallas and Ft. Worth. Any input would be welcome. Bogeyman question. Yes, though its a bit complicated. "True Grit"? Possibly, hard to say if the offer meant that as a child's fear or a real danger.
RedRatSnake, is there a Crybaby Bridge at Bridgewater, or were you mentioning just as an area of interest?
Bill Green, you're the best.
Crypto_jack, lots of reports in New Jersey. My only complaint is sorting them out from those winged Jersey Devil reports. But I appreciate the nomenclature clarification.
Grump13, comments would be appreciated on my accuracy. Interesting story, and I can see why BF left the area so quickly.
comncents, never did realize what when you were searching using Yahoo you were supporting the BF legend?
Green circles are sightings, green triangles are sound events. JPGs should be downloaded and zoomed in on if you can't see them properly.
AL-Mentone
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MS-Beaumont
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OH-Egypt Rd. wasn't on the map, the other referenced roads were there, perhaps with some East/West confusion.
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OH-Maud Hughes Road
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OH-Rogue's Hollow
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OH-Wisner Road-Clean
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OK-Kiamichi & Quachita Mountains
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TN-Smoky Mountain
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Art, any idea where Red Eyes is allegedly seen?
DonDon, found Beaumont - this is a different spelling, but I'm fairly sure it is the likely location.
kanetaker5566, you were just talking about a humongous turtle, and not a BF confused with a turtle (not that it's not an interesting cryptozoological story)? I'll have to check the Youtube link, unless someone has time to summarize it first. The mentions from the Hoosier folklore book are of interest, but I'm not really in a position to track that down further without your help.
HRPuffnstuff, there are some known reports south of Atlanta, do you have any more specific locations or dates?
Nightscream, I tried to even find the general area of your bridge, but do to the size of the River Legacy Park and the several branches of the Trinity River (and not being a local) I really have no clue, other than to place it in a 2.5 mile radius between Dallas and Ft. Worth. Any input would be welcome. Bogeyman question. Yes, though its a bit complicated. "True Grit"? Possibly, hard to say if the offer meant that as a child's fear or a real danger.
RedRatSnake, is there a Crybaby Bridge at Bridgewater, or were you mentioning just as an area of interest?
Bill Green, you're the best.
Crypto_jack, lots of reports in New Jersey. My only complaint is sorting them out from those winged Jersey Devil reports. But I appreciate the nomenclature clarification.
Grump13, comments would be appreciated on my accuracy. Interesting story, and I can see why BF left the area so quickly.
comncents, never did realize what when you were searching using Yahoo you were supporting the BF legend?
Green circles are sightings, green triangles are sound events. JPGs should be downloaded and zoomed in on if you can't see them properly.
AL-Mentone
Click to view attachment
MS-Beaumont
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OH-Egypt Rd. wasn't on the map, the other referenced roads were there, perhaps with some East/West confusion.
Click to view attachment
OH-Maud Hughes Road
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OH-Rogue's Hollow
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OH-Wisner Road-Clean
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OK-Kiamichi & Quachita Mountains
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OR-Vernonia
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TN-Smoky Mountain
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Cable Ohio
The youtube link I put is about the cable line monster. A 8 foot hairy man shaped creature that smash's cars and drags people into the woods I have been looking for more info but haven't found much.
Sorry about the turtle story but it is a good local legend
Sorry about the turtle story but it is a good local legend
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HRPuffnstuff, there are some known reports south of Atlanta, do you have any more specific locations or dates?
Certainly Prehistoric Fisherman. So far as location, it was in Henry County in an area between the cities of Stockbridge and McDonough. Most of the sightings were around Little Cotton Indian Creek and the working theory at the time was that whatever it was was moving along LCIC and the smaller surrounding creeks that fed it. The particular property I hunted on in which there was a sighting very near was bordered on one of its sides by one of these feeder creeks and only 3-4 miles from the big creek.
Most of the sightings occurred along LCIC between Hudson Bridge Road and Hwy 155. The piece of property I hunted was off of Rock Quarry Rd. and its intersection with Hudson Bridge Rd. was less than a mile.
These events occurred in the mid to late 70's. I wish I could be more exact, but I can't. I do know I was in high school then. At that time, this area was remote. There was one burger joint in Stockbridge and only one traffic light. In the interim between then and now growth in this area has skyrocketed. Henry County has been one of the fastest growing counties in the US for quite a while. It is nothing like it was back in the day. There are condominiums, apartment complexes, professional buildings, a golf course, a hospital, restaurants, gas stations and the like in the Hudson Bridge Rd. proximity now.
The paper that reported the sightings was the Henry County Neighbor.
Hope this helps!!!
There are a few farmsteads or hobby farms left in that area but surrounded by subdivisions, new building and new roads everywhere now. I can believe it was a rural agrarian area though back in the '70's. They are building several new schools every year around there now.
QUOTE(grump13 @ Oct 24 2008, 07:53 AM)
nightscream yeah , let me explain. He and a friend had been to the ga state line and bought some beer. after drinking it they had to relieve themselves.it was late at night so they rode to the city park, understand that this is a rural community, they standing on the rim of Lookout mountain, just below the rim ten to twelve feet there is a ledge that extends out about 40 feet then slopes to the valley floor, BF was standing on this ledge underneath the rim, they actually above him,and yeah he got peed on, must have got peed off his eyes were red, there is a security light and pic nic tables at this location, if i didnt know the man i wouldnt believe it either , a few nights later BF was seen by another man that i know, crossing the road between valley head ,ala and Mentone, which is about a mile from the park, a few days later he was seen on the road to Desoto Falls, two miles from the park. they called him The Wolfman for lack of a better explanation,
wow!
Here in South East Idaho a portion of the Fort Hall Reservation is called "The Bottoms". All through my childhood we would hear stories of the "Water Babies". I don't know who drown the babies there, if it was the white man drowning the Native babies or if the Mothers did it to save the babies. I do know in The Bottoms there is a pool of water that the Natives would go to and sit in and drink from to heal themselves. When in High School you use to go out there with your buddies to see if you heard the babies crying, if you did you may not make it back to town.
What does this have to do with Bigfoot? Well as I became interested in the topic and spoke with those that live on the Reservation I learned that the people believe Bigfoot comes down from the Mountains and winters in the Bottoms. So I wondered after that if it is a place for Bigfoot to take the young to wait out the cold winters in the more mild lowland area. Maybe that is what people heard overtime, the crying of infants or young Bigfoots.
What does this have to do with Bigfoot? Well as I became interested in the topic and spoke with those that live on the Reservation I learned that the people believe Bigfoot comes down from the Mountains and winters in the Bottoms. So I wondered after that if it is a place for Bigfoot to take the young to wait out the cold winters in the more mild lowland area. Maybe that is what people heard overtime, the crying of infants or young Bigfoots.
QUOTE(bipedalist @ Oct 26 2008, 10:12 PM)
There are a few farmsteads or hobby farms left in that area but surrounded by subdivisions, new building and new roads everywhere now. I can believe it was a rural agrarian area though back in the '70's. They are building several new schools every year around there now.
Yeah, and it has been sad for me to watch in all sincerity. A new community named Eagle's Landing now encompasses a large swath of the land in which *Pig Man* was purported to have roamed. New schools and subdivisions out the ying-yang.
Out of time for today. I've taken the new posts home to read tonight. I'll try to have a response up tomorrow.
Thanks to all,
P.F.
Thanks to all,
P.F.
QUOTE(comncents @ Oct 24 2008, 03:32 PM)
I don't know if this is "local legend" or just a story. When I went to summer camp in the Smoky Mtns in Tennessee, at some point during the week our cabin (8 or 10 guys) would hike a couple of hours away from the big camp (cabins, mess hall etc) and sleep in the woods for a night. One of the older leaders would tell the story of the "Ya-Hoos" around the campfire. I don't remember the details, but the basics of the story were that there were Ya-Hoos that roamed the forests. As the story goes, the Ya-Hoos were desendants of ancient indians that were cast out of the tribe for some evil deed. Each generation they became larger, more hairy and meaner. They lost the ability to speak, but would call out "YA-HOO" (hence the name).
Of course as the first leader was telling the story to a bunch of 12 year olds around the fire, the 2nd would sneak off into the woods and make some spooky noise. At the end of the story, the 2nd guy would come running into the the camp screaming and scare everyone.
Of course as the first leader was telling the story to a bunch of 12 year olds around the fire, the 2nd would sneak off into the woods and make some spooky noise. At the end of the story, the 2nd guy would come running into the the camp screaming and scare everyone.
I think your right, this is an international legend. The word Yahoo was coined by author Johnathan Swift in his classic of satire Gullivers Travels in 1726. In this book he describes large hairy manlike creatures which coincidentally did utter the word "yahoo" frequently. Daniel Boone the frontiersman actually carried this book with him and once claimed to have shot and killed a large hairy creature he called a Yahoo.
The word Yahoo has been used also in Australia by aboriginals to describe the same sort of creature. Whether Swifts writings have influenced such remote populations of natives to use this word in describing these creatures, or the creatures are independently given the name yahoo for the sounds they make is an intriguing proposition.
I once heard and recorded a sound very similar to this in response to a call blast, and that recording is what lead me to discover this legend, and thus it is part of my username.
SY
I looked everywhere for anything about the cable line road monster but could not find anything not even where it started.
If anyone else can find anything about this story I would like to know more.
I searched with google, dogpile, and wikipedia. Also you can see the cable line road on google earth but there isn't much to see it is about 5 miles long with a few dense forest and shows it going into byron indiana.
If anyone else can find anything about this story I would like to know more.
I searched with google, dogpile, and wikipedia. Also you can see the cable line road on google earth but there isn't much to see it is about 5 miles long with a few dense forest and shows it going into byron indiana.
Well, I've been gone on a trip for a week, and have been trying to play catch up. If anyone has any corrections to anything posted in this thread, please let me know.
Art,
I couldn't find an existing Cable, Ohio, at least in my software. I did find cemetaries of that name, which might be associated with defunct towns of that name. If you could give me some idea of where the Cable in question is located (nearby towns or cities, or what part of Ohio it is in), that would be helpful. Roads are good for fine tuning, but I can't do searches for roads (they have to be visually spotted). Landmarks, towns, villages, cities are the best to get me in the general area.
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Kanetanker,
I'm working on the Cable Line Monster. I have a small amount of information, but am not finished.
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HRPuffnstuff,
I assume that Hudson Bridge Road is the same as the "Old Hudson Bridge Road" I found? I put the 'dot' at near the center of the area you described, but deviated slightly west to where the LCIC meets the Clayton Cty. Reservoir. The reason I did this is to avoid locating it on private property, at least to the extent possible. Did the reservoir exist at that time, and was it the current size? While travel through there today looks far less likely, I still wouldn't be shocked if some interesting things showed up there in the wee hours of the morning from time to time. 8)
You gave quality information, it would be hard for you to be more specific than what you provided, and I know how hard it is to remember events after 30+ years. If I were located in Georgia I would be making an effort to find old newpaper stories. Perhaps some other interested party will take note and start digging, or there are online newspaper archives available. BTW, the description "Pig Man" has come up before in other areas, though the exact locations escape me at the moment. Sometimes it refers to a grunting noise, at other times it seems to refer to a particular type of pug-nose or other facial quality. I don't know if this comment applies to your version in any way.
Here's a revised map:
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911Guy,
I found an area designated as the "Fort Hall Bottoms" (N43.05628 W112.54832) which is located 21.4 miles from the official "spot" that is designated as the Fort Hall Indian Reservation. Hopefully this is the area you are discussing. Alternately, there is a "Lufkin Bottom" which is 49.94 miles away. Or there may be another area that I could not locate. Any corrections would be appreciated.
The entire area in question looks interesting, but there are few reports currently in the database. This may be because there aren't enough people in the area to produce reports, or the people aren't reporting what they are seeing, or the reports are available but aren't entered in the database, or there are few BF seen in the area.
The part about if one heard the "water babies" you 'might not make it back' makes me wonder if there were unexplained disappearances in the area? I can certainly understand why native peoples would not want to disclose much information about BF, or want outsiders coming in and looking for them (particularly when one considers the worse case scenarios for people's behavior). On the other hand, I think it may create a "black box" effect where in certain areas activity is taking place, but outside investigators have few clues regarding it. Perhaps that is for the best.
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mkianni,
I've covered most of the other crybaby bridges your post brought to our attention in my previous post, but there was one I've been keeping in reserve, and which I considered not disclosing at all (for the reasons that follow): Helltown, Ohio. This area, like most of the other bridges, is somewhere near a possible area of interest and/or known sightings. Unfortunately, most of the legends associated with this area (which is not an official name) seem to have little basis in fact, and unfortunately the area has suffered a large amount of vandalism and trespassing because people go to see supernatural phenomena that may never have existed. Additionally, many people in the area lost their land when the government seized it on the basis that there had been a toxic waste dump in the area. Then this was apparently bundled into the Cuyahoga Valley Natl. Recreation Area. Yes, BF's own toxic natural preserve, isn't it ironic? So, there is more than the ususal hostility towards outsiders in the area, and more than typical security. If you go there, be civil, don't vandalize, don't trespass, follow all regulations, and if anyone asks you are doing a biological survey or something like that (which is more or less the truth). I would *strongly* suggest concentrating on the Recreation Area rather than Helltown proper, and I would scout the area and be familiar with the situation before staying overnight (which is good advice anywhere).
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As I've said before, keep up the good work, its much appreciated.
Regards,
P.F.
Art,
I couldn't find an existing Cable, Ohio, at least in my software. I did find cemetaries of that name, which might be associated with defunct towns of that name. If you could give me some idea of where the Cable in question is located (nearby towns or cities, or what part of Ohio it is in), that would be helpful. Roads are good for fine tuning, but I can't do searches for roads (they have to be visually spotted). Landmarks, towns, villages, cities are the best to get me in the general area.
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Kanetanker,
I'm working on the Cable Line Monster. I have a small amount of information, but am not finished.
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HRPuffnstuff,
I assume that Hudson Bridge Road is the same as the "Old Hudson Bridge Road" I found? I put the 'dot' at near the center of the area you described, but deviated slightly west to where the LCIC meets the Clayton Cty. Reservoir. The reason I did this is to avoid locating it on private property, at least to the extent possible. Did the reservoir exist at that time, and was it the current size? While travel through there today looks far less likely, I still wouldn't be shocked if some interesting things showed up there in the wee hours of the morning from time to time. 8)
You gave quality information, it would be hard for you to be more specific than what you provided, and I know how hard it is to remember events after 30+ years. If I were located in Georgia I would be making an effort to find old newpaper stories. Perhaps some other interested party will take note and start digging, or there are online newspaper archives available. BTW, the description "Pig Man" has come up before in other areas, though the exact locations escape me at the moment. Sometimes it refers to a grunting noise, at other times it seems to refer to a particular type of pug-nose or other facial quality. I don't know if this comment applies to your version in any way.
Here's a revised map:
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911Guy,
I found an area designated as the "Fort Hall Bottoms" (N43.05628 W112.54832) which is located 21.4 miles from the official "spot" that is designated as the Fort Hall Indian Reservation. Hopefully this is the area you are discussing. Alternately, there is a "Lufkin Bottom" which is 49.94 miles away. Or there may be another area that I could not locate. Any corrections would be appreciated.
The entire area in question looks interesting, but there are few reports currently in the database. This may be because there aren't enough people in the area to produce reports, or the people aren't reporting what they are seeing, or the reports are available but aren't entered in the database, or there are few BF seen in the area.
The part about if one heard the "water babies" you 'might not make it back' makes me wonder if there were unexplained disappearances in the area? I can certainly understand why native peoples would not want to disclose much information about BF, or want outsiders coming in and looking for them (particularly when one considers the worse case scenarios for people's behavior). On the other hand, I think it may create a "black box" effect where in certain areas activity is taking place, but outside investigators have few clues regarding it. Perhaps that is for the best.
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mkianni,
I've covered most of the other crybaby bridges your post brought to our attention in my previous post, but there was one I've been keeping in reserve, and which I considered not disclosing at all (for the reasons that follow): Helltown, Ohio. This area, like most of the other bridges, is somewhere near a possible area of interest and/or known sightings. Unfortunately, most of the legends associated with this area (which is not an official name) seem to have little basis in fact, and unfortunately the area has suffered a large amount of vandalism and trespassing because people go to see supernatural phenomena that may never have existed. Additionally, many people in the area lost their land when the government seized it on the basis that there had been a toxic waste dump in the area. Then this was apparently bundled into the Cuyahoga Valley Natl. Recreation Area. Yes, BF's own toxic natural preserve, isn't it ironic? So, there is more than the ususal hostility towards outsiders in the area, and more than typical security. If you go there, be civil, don't vandalize, don't trespass, follow all regulations, and if anyone asks you are doing a biological survey or something like that (which is more or less the truth). I would *strongly* suggest concentrating on the Recreation Area rather than Helltown proper, and I would scout the area and be familiar with the situation before staying overnight (which is good advice anywhere).
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As I've said before, keep up the good work, its much appreciated.
Regards,
P.F.
Cable Ohio is between Urbana and Woodstock, Ohio and Urbana and North Lewisburg, Ohio. It's close to Route 296.
Art,
> Cable Ohio is between Urbana and Woodstock, Ohio and Urbana and North Lewisburg, Ohio.
> It's close to Route 296.
Thanks, I'll see what I can find there. I also found a Wikipedia page that might be this same town (or might not be) and gives coordinates.
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Kanetanker,
I didn't find much either. Here is what I have so far:
http://books.google.com/books?id=fKHCuFfsI...4&ct=result
If anyone can't get this link to work search for the following using Google and look for the Google Books link: "cable line road" monster
It would have been nice to find an account of the actual monster, but the folklorist hardly mentions it. Which may mean it is being avoided on purpose. The *general* directions given in the book don't match up well with the maps, unless I am confused or the naming of the roads has changed. I located the dot near the intersection of Co. 11 & 26 (the Cable Line Road) as that is where the alleged accident is supposed to have happened. I could not find a "Jamestown" at the location (it may have been absorbed by some other municipality), so any additional information would be appreciated. The appearance of a "headless man" as a ghost is not an unknown phenomena. I wonder if the silhouette of a seemingly "neckless" BF at night gives people the impression that their head is actually the stump of a severed neck.
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Here's one I found while looking for the Cable Line Monster:
http://www.realhaunts.com/united-states/red-eyed-man/
Again, stories of ghosts have gotten associated with red-eyed figures seen at night. There's a similar legend I know of that has it being a murdered trapper and he goes about picking at stuff on the ground 'for unknown reasons' and looks at you with his red eyes. Which is a good description of a foraging BF at night.
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The Jayhawk icon represents sounds discussed in a post here by a forum member.
> Cable Ohio is between Urbana and Woodstock, Ohio and Urbana and North Lewisburg, Ohio.
> It's close to Route 296.
Thanks, I'll see what I can find there. I also found a Wikipedia page that might be this same town (or might not be) and gives coordinates.
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Kanetanker,
I didn't find much either. Here is what I have so far:
http://books.google.com/books?id=fKHCuFfsI...4&ct=result
If anyone can't get this link to work search for the following using Google and look for the Google Books link: "cable line road" monster
It would have been nice to find an account of the actual monster, but the folklorist hardly mentions it. Which may mean it is being avoided on purpose. The *general* directions given in the book don't match up well with the maps, unless I am confused or the naming of the roads has changed. I located the dot near the intersection of Co. 11 & 26 (the Cable Line Road) as that is where the alleged accident is supposed to have happened. I could not find a "Jamestown" at the location (it may have been absorbed by some other municipality), so any additional information would be appreciated. The appearance of a "headless man" as a ghost is not an unknown phenomena. I wonder if the silhouette of a seemingly "neckless" BF at night gives people the impression that their head is actually the stump of a severed neck.
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Here's one I found while looking for the Cable Line Monster:
http://www.realhaunts.com/united-states/red-eyed-man/
Again, stories of ghosts have gotten associated with red-eyed figures seen at night. There's a similar legend I know of that has it being a murdered trapper and he goes about picking at stuff on the ground 'for unknown reasons' and looks at you with his red eyes. Which is a good description of a foraging BF at night.
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The Jayhawk icon represents sounds discussed in a post here by a forum member.
Art,
Cable (which only shows up on my maps as a street of that name) already had a BF sighting near it, so for the time being I didn't put a dot in for "Red Eyes" (it would obscure the date on the report). I take it that this is an old legend and not related to the sighting? The crosshair in the center of the map is located on Cable, at the exact coordinates given by Wikipedia (which was about where you located it).
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Could someone explain to me if the Cable Line Roads in Ohio and Indiana are related?
Regards,
P.F.
Cable (which only shows up on my maps as a street of that name) already had a BF sighting near it, so for the time being I didn't put a dot in for "Red Eyes" (it would obscure the date on the report). I take it that this is an old legend and not related to the sighting? The crosshair in the center of the map is located on Cable, at the exact coordinates given by Wikipedia (which was about where you located it).
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Could someone explain to me if the Cable Line Roads in Ohio and Indiana are related?
Regards,
P.F.
In NY, regional Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) tribal lore speaks of the woodland Stone Giants...
Red eyes is an old, old story from when I was a kid--60-70's. Yes you found Cable-- a couple of streets and an ball diamond.
Hey thanks for this I might be able to get that book at my library. I tried looking again last week I even posted on a forum about myths and legends and no one has replied yet.
Ok i read the part of the book and I looked all over for county road 19 the only one I see is like a few miles from my house. I live in Dekalb county in Garrett Indiana which isn't that far from elkhart. I can't find Jimtown but I now it is there because almost every year are football team has to play the Jimtown jimmies for the state finals. Ok I searched for the jimtown jimmies and found there webpage I guess there in elkhart they even have a cable line cup.
http://ifca.zebras.net/ifca/candler/jimtownfootball.htm
So I guess I will search for more now that I know where it is.
http://ifca.zebras.net/ifca/candler/jimtownfootball.htm
So I guess I will search for more now that I know where it is.
QUOTE(Prehistoric Fisherman @ Nov 10 2008, 06:57 PM)
HRPuffnstuff,
I assume that Hudson Bridge Road is the same as the "Old Hudson Bridge Road" I found? I put the 'dot' at near the center of the area you described, but deviated slightly west to where the LCIC meets the Clayton Cty. Reservoir. The reason I did this is to avoid locating it on private property, at least to the extent possible. Did the reservoir exist at that time, and was it the current size? While travel through there today looks far less likely, I still wouldn't be shocked if some interesting things showed up there in the wee hours of the morning from time to time. 8)
You gave quality information, it would be hard for you to be more specific than what you provided, and I know how hard it is to remember events after 30+ years. If I were located in Georgia I would be making an effort to find old newpaper stories. Perhaps some other interested party will take note and start digging, or there are online newspaper archives available. BTW, the description "Pig Man" has come up before in other areas, though the exact locations escape me at the moment. Sometimes it refers to a grunting noise, at other times it seems to refer to a particular type of pug-nose or other facial quality. I don't know if this comment applies to your version in any way.
Here's a revised map:
Click to view attachment
Regards,
P.F.
I assume that Hudson Bridge Road is the same as the "Old Hudson Bridge Road" I found? I put the 'dot' at near the center of the area you described, but deviated slightly west to where the LCIC meets the Clayton Cty. Reservoir. The reason I did this is to avoid locating it on private property, at least to the extent possible. Did the reservoir exist at that time, and was it the current size? While travel through there today looks far less likely, I still wouldn't be shocked if some interesting things showed up there in the wee hours of the morning from time to time. 8)
You gave quality information, it would be hard for you to be more specific than what you provided, and I know how hard it is to remember events after 30+ years. If I were located in Georgia I would be making an effort to find old newpaper stories. Perhaps some other interested party will take note and start digging, or there are online newspaper archives available. BTW, the description "Pig Man" has come up before in other areas, though the exact locations escape me at the moment. Sometimes it refers to a grunting noise, at other times it seems to refer to a particular type of pug-nose or other facial quality. I don't know if this comment applies to your version in any way.
Here's a revised map:
Click to view attachment
Regards,
P.F.
Old Hudson Bridge Rd. and Hudson Bridge Rd. are the same. When The Eagle Group purchased all of the land in the area to develop the Eagle's Landing Community that is present there today the Old was dropped from the name.
So far as the reservoir, it was definitely there and the same size. I graduated HS in 1980 and purchased 10 acres that were located on it. All of the lots were divided into 5 acre plots and if you owned land that touched the reservoir, they would grant you permits to fish it from a small boat. This property was off of a dirt road named Springdale that ran between Miller's Mill Rd. and Brannan Rd. Brannan Rd. connects to HWY 42 in two spots south of the intersection of HWY 42 and Hudson Bridge. It is basically shaped like a half-moon. Most of the land around the reservoir was leased by hunting clubs at that time. I canned the dream of building on the property when all of the development started and eventually sold it.
There was quite a bit of swampy land back then between the reservoir and I-75 along the winding route of LCIC. Took some quality bucks out of those woods as a kid and always dreamed of seeing Pig Man or the Big Guy.
I didn't find the cable line monster yet but I did come across this newspaper article I thought was a good report of big foot.
http://rking.vinu.edu/big1.htm
http://rking.vinu.edu/big1.htm
After searching a while on google earth I did find jamestown and where county road 11 meets county road 26. Where the man was supposed to of lost his head. I don't really see any large woods around that area but there is a bfro report in the town above jamestown about a howl.
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To quote another great post of mine: 
"Out of time for today. I've taken the new posts home to read tonight. I'll try to have a response up tomorrow."
Apologies & thanks to all,
P.F.
"Out of time for today. I've taken the new posts home to read tonight. I'll try to have a response up tomorrow."
Apologies & thanks to all,
P.F.
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