Well here is the link to my report that i had sent in and investigated by the BFRO : http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=21807

And here is what actually happened.

Well, my dad had taken me, my sisters, brother, and step mother out for a day of 'rock hunting' so that he could find the rare and odd rocks that he loves to go and find in the mountain areas. Me and my younger sister were walking along a trail that my step mother and youngest sister had just come from, they had said it was a nice trail and that we should check it out. So we did. About...a fourth of a mile towards a half of a mile down the trail me and my sister stop at this little creek, we stay there for a while playing in the water, I wanted to continue down the trail, but my sister freaked out on me, telling me that she had a very bad feeling and wanted to go back to where my dad and the others were. I told her it was ok and eventually convinced her to head down the trail a bit more, however once we started off again something charged at us from a wooded hill that was right next to me. We heard this horrible terrifying howl/growl coming towards us as the trees and bushes moved around as if a truck was coming through them, sounded and seemed as though a semi had come off the road and was rolling down at us. All i saw was a black figure and I started running, I yelled to my sister to get the hell out of there, me and her both cursing and running as fast as we could over the trail, now that I recall the trail was a dirt bike trail, Anyways as we ran back I fell and hit my ribs, i couldn't run any longer and looked back to make sure whatever the hell it was, wasn't chasing us, and nothing was there, my sister wouldn't stop so i had to keep going, even though I was so out of breath I couldn't run anymore. She wouldn't stop. When we got back we were both crying and so scared that we left right away with everyone because we couldn't stay there any longer. We were to scared. I thought at the time it was a bear, or a cougar, then on the way home i realized those don't sound like that, i know what those sound like, and whatever was chasing us did not sound like a bear or cougar.

After hearing some prerecorded, supposed, whoops and howling from bigfoot in my area, it got me scared becuase they sounded so similar to what me and my sister heard.

And this is what the people who investigated it said they saw and such:

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Scott Taylor:

After interviewing the witness and gathering more details, I went to the site of the incident to investigate the encounter further on 11/17/07. We went to what we believed to be the site, based on the witness' directions. We found a trail leading away from the gravel pit. We followed the trail, which is really an old, overgrown logging road, to where it met a creek. The road used to go across the creek, but the culvert had been removed or washed out. We could see the road on the other side. We then followed the trail to the right on up the hill. We found three impressions. Each impression was 13 " long, and 5 " wide, one an obvious track with toes visible. We also found one tree break where the fir tree had been broken so as to possibly block the trail. It was suspicious because it fell in a direction opposite the prevailing wind, and there was no other visible mechanism to explain the manner in which it was broken. We also noted many rubs from both deer and elk. They were fresh from this summer. A good food source for sasquatches.

What we found at the site suggests that the witness and her sister were very possibly scared out of the woods by a sasquatch.


So what do you think about it? I would really like to hear opinions on what you think it could of been, if not a bigfoot...

Well, I think I've met Scott Taylor, if he investigated it and thought thats what it is, I would go along with his opinion. Not all bigfoot tracks
are 18-24 inches long, I've casted 12 inch older ones without visible toe impressions. Sounds like you had quite an experience. The association
with gravel pits is a known highly correlated geographic finding in many of these sightings it seems.

Really, hmm thats odd about the gravel pits. My dad is going to be taking us on some more 'rock hunting' this summer, from washington to utah from what i know, hopefully nothing like that happens again since its going to be in some gravel pits again. Then again i might just have to do a little searching around the area for any signs, im scared, but very curious about it now.

If going back to pits, I'd take a camera, video, digital sound recorder and might consider taking some hand-held musical instruments such as a harmonica, etc.
Music seems to be able to make them more curious according to some sightings/researchers.

Most likely will bring my camera, digital and 35mm, possibly the camcorder. I have an irish tin whistle i could always bring along

Maewolf, having grown up in that area I am familiar with the location. In fact, I had a hiking accident near one of the gravel pits when I was a teen. The area would be prime habitat for sasquatches.

Can you describe the "black figure" further?

Redwolf

Honestly no i cant. I remember looking back to see my sister and i was kinda walking backwards, i started to face forward down the trail again and out of the corner of my eye i just saw this huge black figure charging down at me, i was to scared to not run. I wasnt thinking to look at it, and when i did stop and look back to see if it was following us, there was nothing on the trail. I really wish i could of seen it more clearly though. Though I probably would of had nightmares lol it was very tall , i know that.

Wow Meag, I see you've had a UFO sighting, a Bigfoot encounter, a close call with an orb of light, and a ghost experience.

Aren't you just the paranormal busy beaver.

eheh, yeah i guess i am...and the thing is im honestly scared to death of most of what has happened, its hard for me to be alone in my own home in the dark in my room with out being scared sometimes lol it kinda surrounds my family, the paranormal i mean, lots of 'ghostly' things that happen to us, never really thought i would have a bigfoot experience in my life XD im probably gonna be the one to prove the lochness monster is real...jk jk

So what do you think about it? I would really like to hear opinions on what you think it could of been, if not a bigfoot...

Hi


Thanks for the report, Myself i can't give it much credit for being a BF without a sighting, The tracks are very interesting but we will need to see them if possible, A lot of animals will charge, Recent observations have been floating around that BF are very interested in women and children and tend to be very curious about them,
Good Luck



Peace
Tim

Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I am particularly intrigued that your sister sensed something before you actually had your encounter.

The discovery of those impressions by the follow up investigators lends credence to your story. I believe you had a bigfoot experience.

Well, Maewolf, welcome to the prestigious club of those who have been officially zapped by Bigfoot!
Dudlow

With no clear visual I'd say a sasquatch is pretty far fetched. Sounds like either someone was trying to scare you or it was an animal. Kids are always thinking monster and don't usually know their wildlife. Fun to be scared though isn't it? Welcome.

t.

Oh, I see, far-fetched, an experienced bfro investigator who sees a suspicious toed-print, witness is at an established hotspot for bf sightings==a gravel pit, and investigator has a history of personal sightings and research, and makes a call of potential or possible sasquatch and that doesn't rate? I've got more trust in my fellow researchers than that.

From what I've seen on the BFRO forum, those folks appear to believe just about everything is bf related but that's just my perception of that bunch. I gotta tell you though, much of what I see there is embarrasing to read but maybe that's must me. Still, you make a good point.

t.

I try to handicap my sightings reports based on my knowledge of the scenario and the researcher/investigator, some have more substance than others as you say.

hey maewolf welcome to the bigfoot forums wow very interesting sasquatch experience you posted here indeed. do you have photos of the sighting location or possible sasquatch evidence or a sketch of the creature seen. please post them here. keep in touch ok. thanks bill

I really wish that I did. The man, scott, said that he would email some pictures and such to me, but still hasnt. Im going to try and find his number and see if he could send them to me as he said he would. I havent seen the pictures yet myself, but I will post them if i can get him to send them to me.

Thanks for your opinions guys!


I found that really wierd to, that she did not want to go down the path any more, that she just wanted to get out of there. You could tell how scared she was just by looking at her, but I thought it was just becuase we were by ourselves in the woods, on a path with everyone else at the rock quarry itself.

hey maewolf thanks for the new above reply to me but thats ok take your time getting the photos. good evening bill keep us posted of other sasquatch & wildlife activity in your state or surrounding states as well.

OK..enough of this..ya'll dog me, without geting the real facts............. and even I can call Bull s**t on this one.
Common..dude has tried to take every known report, and wind it into one...
Plus, he was" running, fell... and hit a rib..out of breathe, can't go one.......... then he is "keeping up with the sis, and walking backwards....
Dang..has the FBI been to his house yet?


blow off a brother already.

And stop hounding people like me, who just have issues with the "big sneeky dogs".

oh, ummm...she has activity..ummm not too much....uhhhh....we may have reports fromm 100 miles away later...in her area...
Gotta love those "official statements"....

Ammi.... who the BFRO..advised to "go underground"...shhhhhh .. don't tell any one I posted here.

FYI - since you'll see there appears to be duplicate posts...

I merged two topics since it was of the same 'encounter'. Merged older one into newer one since newer one was in the correct catagory of Sightings & Encounters.

Hi

I thought i was going all crazy with spooky stuff when i was rereading the thread, The two combined make it a lot more interesting and realistic up until the spooky paranormal stuff, I am a mechanic and we use filters to trap the harmfull particles before they get into the engine, maybe we should put one on here


Peace
Tim

I have to say that I am a bit confused right now...

from bgchavis's post down...I have no idea what the hell you guys are even trying to say with your posts to be completely honest...mind clarifying? Have I missed something?

And Im not a he by the way

They're encoded. If you turn them upside down and read them in a mirror, they start to make sense.

Way to early in the morning for jokes like that...i actually looked back up to one of the posts to see if you were serious...

No worries Meag, confusion will come to pass. I've been here for over a year and I get confused at least once a day.
I believe you saw something............don't know what it was, can't say for sure............but you saw something. Thanks for sharing it with us.

>>>What we found at the site suggests that the witness and her sister were very possibly scared out of the woods by a sasquatch.

What exactly did they find other than a broken tree and 3 prints ( presumably not photographed or cast as the reporter doesnt include that information)

Based on your account ( and perusing your website- i notice you have a keen interest in the paranormal) I have a few questions if you will.

>> What did the other members of your party hear ( 1/4-1/2 mile isnt that far)?

>>> What was the foliage density and visibility?

>> What time of the day was this?

You also state the sounds resembled sounds you heard recorded in your area- who recorded these sounds ? If they arent on the net- did you know this person who did it? had you heard them prior to the alleged sighting?

Thank you

Maewolf. First thank you for posting. I have 2 questions for now:

1. How old were you at the time of the "sighting"?

2. How old are you now?

Longtabber took the rest LOL.

HI

It is a form of interrogation, everyone has to go through it, no harm meant, we all want to hear good solid story's but there is a need to weed out the BS so we can get to the questions we all have, Bipto has a header on the sighting post forum stating what is to come when you post a sighting, once everyone is happy and the story holds up, everyone will help find all the Little details you might have forgot or missed, Hey there are other forums that will say, "wow" great story we think you are a god, were there whistles and wood knocks and tree forts etc, I like this forum cause the truth and facts will come out ........

Peace and Thanks
Tim

Hello All.

This is the BFRO investigator, Scott, who investigated the report filed by Meagan.

First, let me say that I have tried on severl occasions, Meagan, to send you pictures. I have tried your e-mail address as shown on the report several times, as well as alternate arrangements of capitol letters and such trying to figure out why they don't go through. I tried the e-mail address in the form you told me on the phone too. I got the message on the BFRO Comments about you not recieving the photos, and sent them to the address that was listed there, and got no indication of an e-mail "bounce". If you will send me an different e-mail address to the BFRO Comments, I will be more than happy to try again.

Now, for you others. All any investigator can do is talk to the witness, and go out and see what there is to see. Usually, there isn't much to see at all. Often the witness has details that only people who have first hand experiences themselves will recognize as being significant. These are little things that separate out what a person can find out on the internet and use to file a phony report from a real report. An example: the color of the tongue. In the case of this particular report, we went to the place, we found impressions with toes....and this is several years after the incident...so they are NOT the impressions left from Meagan's encounter. What it tells me is that there are sasquatches living in the area still, so it is not unreasonable to believe that Meagan and her sister really were charged by one. All we can say is that the evidence is consistant with what was reported.

Scott

Hey Scott, nice of you to sign up to clarify things some, hope things are going fine in your neck of the woods, good luck with your
squatchin' , it was great to see you in Utah if I've got the same scott

Scott, I have to ask

>>>we went to the place, we found impressions with toes

>>>and this is several years after the incident...so they are NOT the impressions left from Meagan's encounter.

Then this

>>>the evidence is consistant with what was reported.

If the evidence found cannot possibly be from the actual incident- how can that be consistant with anything? Much less be used in any legitimate way to make a valid assessment regarding the credibility of said report?

Is that the way reports are investigated? If so- what would constitute an "inconsistant" report?

OK Longabber,

What I meant is that if there are sasquatches there now, there is a very high probablity that they were there when Meagan was there. So finding sasquatch tracks there now is consistant with her report that they were there then. My gosh! You all nit-pick this to death. Give it a rest.

Hi


Did you get any pictures or casts and things like that from the area to collect as evidence


Peace
Tim

It has nothing to do with "nitpicking" either on you or the report database but there are many people out there that constantly refer to these "vast" numbers of sightings as significant ( many quoting the database you are with as somewhat of the "gold standard") and influential in both justification of the existance of this animal and many others a basis for their personal belief.

Now based on this explanation- all that is required for a 'sighting' to be entered into this database is a claim and a "high probability they were there" with nothing to support that supposition in any legitimate way that any legitimate researcher or investigator would consider valid. That reduces the situation to nothing more than a short story collection with no useful validity in any realm.

That ought to be an eye opener.

Redratsnake,

I got some pictures of the tracks. They were old tracks though, but you could clearly tell what they were. I am not going to post them here though.

Scott

Since you already heard from scott about what he found, I shouldnt have to repeat that ^^;;

From what I remember they said they had heard nothing from us or whatever charged.

The area where the lets say 'creature' since i cant possibly say it was a bigfoot, just that i had no explination for it, the area where the creature charged at us from had been very thick with bushes and trees, it was the side of a hill that it came down, a small hill, but a hill non the less. I hadnt seen anything before it had come at us, i hadnt heard anything, or smelled anything either.

It was later in the day, around 2-4pm, afternoon-evening




Lets see that was 2002 so i would of just turned 16

I am 21 years old right now




Totally understandable. But you know people will either believe you, or not, whether they read the 'story' or not. Some people just dont want to have the idea of it being true so will just bash it no matter what. Im just taking it as it comes though.

I have no idea what it was. I have said that before. Could I have been to scared to actually take in what it really was? Possibly, very possibly, but as I have also said, it was like nothing i had seen or heard in my life, and my sister says the same thing, thats why i reported it. And thats why I am sharing.

I appreciate that scott went out and actually examined the area, I would like to know what it was at some point in my life, but maybe i will never find out.



Also , I cant seem to send you a message becuase your still in the new member group, however once your not stuck in that group anymore I will send you an email address to try

Forgot to answer this one

I looked up some recordings online, listened to a few different ones, and no i dont know the person and never heard the sounds before hand.

Nit-picking? I should say so. Any reasonable person reading your report would assume the tracks you found and cited as evidence were fresh, that is they had a direct link to Maewolf's encounter. To not specifically state you were following up this report some years after the event was, at best, misleading. And its a bit of a leap in logic and faith to state that since you found tracks (how good we cannot ascertain since you won't show them to us) two or three years later, Maewolf likely encountered a sasquatch. If this is an example of your overall work as a researcher, I am less than impressed.

I'm likely one of those people longtabber mentioned that puts a degree of faith in eyewitness encounters. You don't have to go very far back on this site to read threads where I was defending reports in the various databases because I made the assumption that the people investigating these reports were weighing the evidence with some degree of impartiality. Based on her recollections here on this forum, I think Maewolf ran into something that day, but I can't say for sure it was BF. But based on your follow-up, I'm starting to lean towards longtabber's apt description of that database as "a collection of short stories".

Thank you for the additional information Maewolf

This unfortunately has taken an unfortunate downturn and illustrates yet another reason why the mainstream sciences hold the opinions they have. ( and even worse- shores up their validity for holding those views)

When a person/organization wishes to establish a database ( key word being data)- this is different than a collection of "stories". Data is supposed to be information ( derived by some standard) to be used to build reports with legitimate information so accurate decisions can be made. ( a large part of my personal business is in database management from set up, entry, cleansing and report generation with CMMS systems such as Maximo, Micromain, MP-2, SAP and a host of others- so i do this frequently as well as work with Business Objects or Crystal Reports to generate reports))

Any database has no more worth than the information ( and its quality) derived from it and that hinges on the quality of data going into it ( thus GIGO)

Now to the word "researcher"- be it a part of a firm or a title held by an individual- for that term to have any meaning ( and legitimacy) the universal standards of research must be upheld. Otherwise the "title' is hollow and meaningless.

Granted, 1 example does not a control group make but this example should justify a more critical eye when reviewing "reports" and less general acceptance based soley on the presumption that the report has actually been "researched" and the database actually contains 'data".

There you go, believe everything we say without questions. That's the attitude they have and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. Very disappointing.

t.

You are welcome ^^


Also...didnt mean for the thread to get so out of control like this If i would of known people might be offended and the sort, then I wouldnt of made a post


This is really all I had wanted, opinions and your own thoughts about it ^^;
I myself am looking for what it could of been. As I have said a few other times The Bigfoot idea is just a thought, an idea about what it could of been/be

Hi
If you have good pictures throw them up here, good evidence has it's own voice


Peace
Tim

Just a thank you for your origional post, I think that it is worth making note of even if you didn't stop to get a fingerprint, blood sample, hair sample, cheek swab, full frontal picture, full rear picture, left profile picture, right profile picture, standing on it's head picture, ect. ect. ect.

I have read other reports of BF sighting in that area and I have no doubt that they are around there so I wouldn't be surprised if it were a BF. Not much else out there that acts that way. Any other animal that decided to charge at you like that is going to have a reason and would not have given up the chase so quickly if it thought that you might make a tasty meal.

Thanks for sharing your story !!!

I've encountered sounds twice in my life that are not part of the normal fauna of the area in which they were heard. I am convinced they weren't moose, elk, deer, bear, coyote or wolf. The second one emanated from a distant bluff at such a volume that it was nearly uncomfortable for me, and since it was 4:30 in the morning and abysmally dark, some of my discomfort may have been fear induced. I was deep in the woods at the time, and the call raised such a state of agitation among the coyote population that from nearly every point of the compass I was treated to the most stimulating serenade that lasted for nearly 10 minutes until the forest was once again quiet.

Being a trained singer/baritone, I know a little about what it takes to project a voice to the farthest reaches of a large concert hall, even with optimum accoustics, not to mention a bluff nearly half a mile away. The depth of the call, it's timbre and resonance suggested not only a significant chest size, but the pipes to make the tone that would carry it. I was unable to mimic it or to raise even the slightest interest in the coyote population.

I hesitate to describe it. Why? Because no one else here heard it. If I tried to describe it, there would be a lot of supposition, questions, incorrect attributions, outright derision and maybe even one or two people who would suggest I should have recorded it.

I won't suggest it was a bigfoot. But I won't let someone else suggest it was a coyote, puma or wolf. Now, if they want to suggest it was an elephant, I might go with that! At the same time, for those of us here who have never encountered that one thing that sticks out in their minds as being totally out of place with their expectations of wilderness fauna, there will always be skepticism and derision. For others, there will be legitimate questions that may be difficult to answer.

I know that whatever made that sound, it was not welcome by the local coyote population. The cacophony they raised can only be described as angry or agitated and calls came for miles and lasted well after the originator of the first sound went quiet.

So, this account does not equate to "data." It's only an experience. It can be shared, but it cannot be "explained." Therefore, it is pretty useless in the grand scheme of things. But it was nonetheless, interesting to have lived through.

K

I've got to say Maewolf's and Killian's attitudes are to be commended. Thank you both for not getting overtly defensive or trying to make more out of your accounts than what was seen/heard.

No problem ^^

There is no reason to really get defensive. I was there, you guys werent, I dont have any other evidence that even proves I was in that place at that time other than word of mouth, of course there are going to be people who dont agree or think your not telling the truth, just kinda have to deal with it *shrugs* Not make a big deal about it becuase whats the use of starting a fight about something like this...on the internet...lol

1. Did your sister ever get a look at, or say she heard whatever came crashing down the hill at you?

2. How far would you estimate the Charger was from you when you glimpsed it?

3. Did this happen right when you stood up from the squatting down by the creek?