New member Firefly posed this question in the training ground - I thought it was worthy of a poll to see where the ground lies these days on BFF, and since Firefly can't yet start a poll, I thought I had better do it.

If I remember, didn't we all just recently participate in a poll with pretty much the same question, and if memory serves me right, didn't Team Hominid, kick Team Ape's butt!?

I don't remember seeing one.

Go Team Hominid!

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=20581

I voted "other" as there was no category for "psychological phenomenon" or "mythical creature." I suspect, however, that you intended the other category for folks who think bigfoot is some kind of extraterrestrial or paranormal being.

Assuming there is some kind of a living, breathing bigfoot, then my vote would go to some kind of undescribed ape.

I'd add that while I believe what is seen in most cases is a relic hominid, I can believe that there might be two or more distinct species, including small populations of apes that have escaped in favorable climates.

Actually, I expect anyone who thinks Bigfoot is some kind of paranormal creature to be on another forum, not this one.

I'm tempted to close this, since we have had a similar poll recently, but I'll keep it going, since I think the choices are a little more restrictive.

Other

Since I am trying to find a way to test for a psychologica/neurological explanation for Bigfoot sightings and the self-rationalization of the psychological/neurological phenomenon into a ego based physicalized story, I had to vote this way.

Also, Hoax would be an answer as well, but the psychology of Hoaxing, would allow me to select other as well.

The other poll was someone asking, Hominid, Pongid, Ape, or Psychological

I vote "Relic Hominid." I have nothing to back up that opinion other than the fact that my hunch is that the big guy is more intelligent and evolved than an ape, but less so than a human.

Yep and I ran one back in April with APE kicking Hominid Butt!

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=14750


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Fair enough Ape Team, however your poll answer categories could be construed as a bit misleading. Blacki hasn't been absolutely identified as a pongid, being that science has only found part of the jaw bone; it could just as well be hominid.

The second option answer is "another hominid", so people answering may have assumed their first answer relating to Blacki was a hominid vote.

I said relic hominid but the term relic isn't what I would have chosen. I would call it an evolved hominid which is rather the opposite meaning of relic. It doesn't fit any fossil hominid very well, because of size, but it is entirely within reason to assume that one of the hominids may have became cold adapted and was subjected to much different selection pressures than humans were. My current favorite hominid candidate for ancestor would be something from the lineage that included Homo georgicus. That may also include some of the large Java erectus or Sangarins. I suspect bigfoot are quite distant from humans, something like 2 to 3 million years since the time of a common ancestor but it is only a guess.

Bob, your Team Hominid application has been accepted and is being processed. Oh, in regards to your uniform, are you a more of a Blazing Butterscotch, or a Vigorous Violet type person?

Given that it has been able to avoid being proven to exist, after all these years, it must have somewhat of a more developed mind, so I would not think it would merely be an undiscovered ape.

'Other' hominid, very intelligent, has social structure.

I have never thought in terms of 'ape', because apes are quadrapedal. Gigantopithecus B. lacks a fossil record to debate it out of quadrapedal locomotion.

I recall Krantz saying that Giganto. was, in his opinion, an upright bi ped, because the back of the jaw was so wide. Meaning that its head was held upright, and the neck was below the head in the wide jaw sepertation, not behind it, as in a quadruped.