scotto
Nov 27 2007, 06:53 PM
Had corn out back for deer (and anything else), with a game cam over it. This takes pics by the creek where all the activity by my house took place the past couple years. It started up somewhat a couple weeks ago again.
My cam snapped a pic last week that I just found on it. I didn't set the date on it, as it burns thru batteries and is a pain in the butt to set all the time.
I am not saying this is anything, I just don't know
what it is.

Then a blow up:

Then one with me standing by the area for scale. I need to snap one earlier one day when the sun is the same angle, and stand further back in the trees where the weird image is.

Any guesses? Whatever it is, it's big.
Flashman
Nov 27 2007, 07:02 PM
It's not generally known that the Chupacabras are a hive organism, what you have there is not just an ordinary worker chupacabras, but a Queen Chupacabras.
moregon
Nov 27 2007, 07:26 PM
Seriously and first impression, do you have any Ostrich Farms around the area? If so give them a call and see if missing any birds.
RogerKni
Nov 27 2007, 07:28 PM
It looks like something raccoon-sized or bear-cub-sized has crawled out on the end of a slender limb and made it droop.
Yetifan
Nov 27 2007, 07:31 PM
It kinda looks like something flying from left to right...the slight blur and shape indicate that to me.
It also might be quite a bit closer to the camera than the treeline, thereby giving the possible impression of relative bigness.
oregonfooter
Nov 27 2007, 07:33 PM
Looks to me to be a male... and marking your tree... watch out Scotto!
Flashman
Nov 27 2007, 07:46 PM
QUOTE(moregon @ Nov 27 2007, 08:26 PM)

Seriously and first impression, do you have any Ostrich Farms around the area? If so give them a call and see if missing any birds.
Good thought.
QUOTE(RogerKni @ Nov 27 2007, 08:28 PM)

It looks like something raccoon-sized or bear-cub-sized has crawled out on the end of a slender limb and made it droop.
Yeah, about the only "sensible" thing I could think of pondering this for a while is it might be a raccoon falling out of the tree.
Painthorse
Nov 27 2007, 07:50 PM
There does appear to be a profile of a head looking towards the right at the top of the gray image. I am having puter problems again and have lost my paint function.
Flashman
Nov 27 2007, 07:50 PM
QUOTE(Yetifan @ Nov 27 2007, 08:31 PM)

It kinda looks like something flying from left to right...the slight blur and shape indicate that to me.
It also might be quite a bit closer to the camera than the treeline, thereby giving the possible impression of relative bigness.
Yeah, I'm seeing that now, big old crow coming in for a landing, white patch is light glinting off the wing.
Volsquatch
Nov 27 2007, 08:26 PM
Very interesting, Scott. Good job.
Bitter Monk
Nov 27 2007, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(Yetifan @ Nov 27 2007, 07:31 PM)

...giving the possible impression of relative bigness.
Shouldn't that be biggieness?
Scott, could you email me the full size image?
WmRoy
Nov 27 2007, 08:42 PM
QUOTE(oregonfooter @ Nov 27 2007, 07:33 PM)

Looks to me to be a male... and marking your tree... watch out Scotto!

Yikes...............
scotto
Nov 27 2007, 09:23 PM
QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ Nov 27 2007, 08:33 PM)

Shouldn't that be biggieness?
Scott, could you email me the full size image?
You have mail.
oregonfooter
Nov 27 2007, 09:33 PM
I showed my son the pic asking him... he's pretty firm that it's a bird with the body below the grey area, flying to the right. He didn't hear of anyone else's thoughts.
But I like my id better.
galahad
Nov 27 2007, 09:40 PM
Scotto, just an observation but Ahh, what is this??? Just another blob squatch with a eyes, nose ear, and mouth all in the right spot. Oh yes and a possible arm and hand on the tree. I love the Rorschach test, passed every one.
Click to view attachmentGalahad
Sorry about the double picture post, once was quite enough, obviously not proficient adding photos.
(edited by moregon.. should be fixed now)
JohnCartwright
Nov 27 2007, 11:13 PM
QUOTE(galahad @ Nov 27 2007, 10:40 PM)

Scotto, just an observation but Ahh, what is this??? Just another blob squatch with a eyes, nose ear, and mouth all in the right spot. Oh yes and a possible arm and hand on the tree. I love the Rorschach test, passed every one.
Click to view attachmentGalahad
Sorry about the double picture post, once was quite enough, obviously not proficient adding photos.
RogerKni
Nov 27 2007, 11:33 PM
About six inches to the right of the tree there's something striped hanging down beneath the main blob. It's consistent with a ring-tail, such as I saw on a pair of raccoons on my porch last week. Once you "see" it, you'll say, "case closed."
I think the raccoon is hanging upside down from the drooping branch, with its head twisted round, looking at the gorund.
nightwing
Nov 27 2007, 11:38 PM
IF this works, here's an animated overlay of the "whatisit" and Scott, in as close to the same location as I can get using the provided photos. As much as anything, this is just to show relative size and breadth. I used some branches of the tree(up, off of this cliped image) lined up, as well as adjusted the diameter of "both" trees using a fade over to size the scott photo version of the tree, to the "it" version.
A couple of observations...
I initially thought bird in flight as well(and it still may prove to be just that), but if you look on the "whatisit", it appears there is a shadow FROM the tree, across. it. This would seem to indicate that it's behind the tree(and relatively static, as the shadow appears fairly well defined.)
Now..IF it's behind the tree, it's obviously MUCH larger then any raccoon I've ever seen, or heard of.
Not a clue, at this point, but given the apparent shadow, and size, I'm leaning against bird in flight, or raccoon.
Tirademan
Nov 28 2007, 03:24 AM
Well, it is interesting...I'd say it's a juvenile squatch jumping over what appears to be a fence...course I could be wrong! Either that, or it's another small bear with mange! HA!
tirademan
Isbjörn
Nov 28 2007, 07:11 AM
I'm voting dove (or crow).
Click to view attachment
Drew
Nov 28 2007, 07:27 AM
I vote Coopers hawk, based on size, and color.
Were there any feathers around the area from a killed bird? Since that is what they eat most of the time?
shagomatic
Nov 28 2007, 07:34 AM
I'm seeing a bird in the foreground. Possibly some sort of woodpecker. JMO
Click to view attachment
NWSquatcher
Nov 28 2007, 09:32 AM
Possibly a wild turkey.
Click to view attachmentClick to view attachmentInteresting animation Tirademan.
Apeman
Nov 28 2007, 04:16 PM
1. Could something that far away really trigger this camera? And how much time was between the frames- seems like a big change in vegetation? Also, does the hill drop off behind those trees?
2. I see a shadow from the leftmost tree falling across the object.
3. It's a bit grayish- but my first thought was a deer (or cow/horse/goat), facing forward and slightly to the right of frame, with it's head down. Strong spine, round body -possible ribs?, front shoulder obvious? But it's not convincing even to me.
4. Where was the food?
I've tried previously to find camera traps shots of birds in flight- not set at feeders- and had very little luck, so I doubt a bird triggered this and was caught so far left of frame, especially if moving to the right.
Roger- Where is the tail you see?
hopeful
Nov 28 2007, 04:29 PM
Scott, it would be helpful to have a pic of the same area at the same time of day to compare shadow and light.
Nightwing, nice image work! (As always.)
RogerKni
Nov 28 2007, 04:58 PM
QUOTE(Apeman @ Nov 28 2007, 02:16 PM)

Roger- Where is the tail you see?
Go up to post #1, picture #2. Locate the dark knob on the right edge of the tree, which is maybe three (?) feet off the ground. Now go maybe four to six inches to the right and slightly upward and you'll see what looks just like the banding on a raccoon's tail. About a foot of it is in view.
But, as one poster pointed out, the image does seem large for a raccoon. Here's my explanation: It's two raccoons, fighting with each other. The males do this sometimes--I've seen them hassling and chasing each other in trees around my place, and jousting on my roof. (Until I replaced it with a metal roof.) (Is there a mating season, and is this it?) This would explain why the animals have gone all the way out to the tip of the limb until it bent (which ordinarily they wouldn't do)--one was chasing the other.
The bent-down branch means the creature wasn't a bird flying in front of the tree.
FredSneakers/David
Nov 28 2007, 05:07 PM
My first thought was a large garbage bag in the wind?
Bitter Monk
Nov 28 2007, 05:11 PM
Gojira?
moregon
Nov 28 2007, 05:12 PM
This is one of those pics that are like clouds, stare at it long enough you see all kinds of things.
Click to view attachmentFirst circle to far right looks like the head of a white tailed deer looking at camera
Bottom small circle looks like black bear head looking at camera
Big Circle above that looks like head of chinook salmon facing to right
Circle to far left looks like human head sticking out of tree looking down at ground
Then if you connect the head of the chinook with the human head and the area around it looks like a bears head looking off to right side of pick, with the human head being the eye and chinook head being the nose.
scotto
Nov 28 2007, 05:44 PM
Thanks Nightwing for the overlay.
The pic was taken early in the am, so I'm going to try and have my wife snap a pic of me where the blob thing is behind the tree tomorrow. I'll post it and ya'll can chew on that, or maybe Paul can do another comp with it. Without me being in that exact spot, it's hard to tell for sure.
As where the feed is, the arrow points to the orange spots which represents field corn, and the blue is the salt lick block.

The line under the blob is where the ground level is approx. at under it, which drops down from there approx. 15 feet to the creek bottom.
Hairy Man
Nov 28 2007, 06:16 PM
QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ Nov 28 2007, 03:11 PM)

Gojira?
seems more like Mothra to me.
Flashman
Nov 28 2007, 10:10 PM
BTW about midway between where the "thingummybob" is and the corn, I can make out a dark splotch on the ground that, according to how I read the light, might be where you'd expect the shadow of a bird if it was a bird.
Mitchell
Nov 29 2007, 01:13 AM
Mitch here, Scotto's son.
Until it was mentioned that the object in question might be closer to the camera than the treeline, I was very inclined to think that there was something very large standing near that one tree. The photo of my dad standing near that tree gives very good perspective as to the size and girth of the tree, as well as the size and
height of the "blob" if it was also standing by the tree. But given the orientation of the lower branches of that tree (in both pictures), it does appear that there is something very much nearer to the camera than the treeline. Which would make it much smaller a blob than it would have appeared before. Everything in the picture is clear (or relatively so, at 3.1MP or whatever low-quality the gamecam shoots) except for the blob, which implies movement of said blob. There aren't any other trees that much nearer to the camera to support anything and nothing suspends in mid air. Take all that and add to it the fact that I
have seen crows eating that corn back there... I'd say it's a crow diving for the corn, it's left wing up, flared, and ready for landing.
Then again, the camera is set to snap on a one-minute delay. Sixty seconds before the crow, there was probably a perfect hairy (and curious) face staring into the lens.
Volsquatch
Nov 29 2007, 01:18 AM
Wow, hey Mitchell!

We are all very fond of your Dad and it's great to see you here as well!

You make some very good points about the photo!
Mitchell
Nov 29 2007, 01:48 AM
Some might ask, so I'm posting it here...
There's no doubt in my mind that there's something running around out there somewhere. North American Ape, Bigfoot, Sasquatch, Man of the Woods, whatever you like to call it, I'm sure it's there. You've all heard my dad's story about the rocks and sticks being thrown through a tree near where we were standing (at about one thirty in the morning, when it was about thirty degrees out.) I believe I've been growled at, whistled at, tapped, rapped and barked at, or otherwise had my attention drawn by this or these creature(s). After all that, I just want to
see the damn thing already!

Until I do, I will continue to investigate every bump, thud and snapping of sticks that I hear. The Patterson film was shot twenty years before I was born, and conclusive evidence may not be found until twenty years after I die, but the giant panda was a myth at one time too, so...
Anyway, glad to be here!
Saskeptic
Nov 29 2007, 08:50 AM
"It's a fam'ly affaaair. It's a fam'ly affaaaair."
Welcome Mitchell.
My first impression was the "sasquatch climbing over a fence" thing - we should prepare for the "Jacobites" to take this thing and start another media circus.
But upon further inspection, it does appear that the image is in front (perhaps well in front) of the tree, which leads to the conclusion that it is in flight. Crow and raven are likely candidates, but I just can't convince myself that that's what we're looking at. It looks too large for either species and the "wing" doesn't look right.
You do have turkeys here? If so, might this be a turkey coming down from its evening roost for a little corn kernel breakfast? I really can't say what it is at the moment, and I've even entertained Fred's garbage bag hypothesis.
Drew
Nov 29 2007, 09:05 AM
I see a Crow's face now, but it could be a vulture or sumthin.
RogerKni
Nov 29 2007, 04:08 PM
One thing that would help clarify matters is the answer to this question: There appears to be a branch (from a tree to the left) that runs from the left of "the tree." It is leaning down below horizontal at about 30 (?) degrees. It passes behind "the tree" and seems to be bent down by the weight of "raccoons" (my guess) near its tip. Beyond the "raccoons" (to their right and lower down) is what looks like (maybe) the leafy tip of the branch.
Does that branch lean down at the same angle now?
(If not, then there was some weight on it pulling it down, and the bird theory can be ruled out.)
hopeful
Nov 29 2007, 04:54 PM
Mitch! Welcome to the BFF! Please visit often!
Something I have been wondering is whether or not the gray part I have indicated below is part of the critter in question or is it a part of the landscape?
Click to view attachment
cryptidon
Nov 29 2007, 08:29 PM
The portion you indicated is part of the critter. Consensus appears to be that the gray is the wing of a crow, turkey, or raptor.
hopeful
Nov 29 2007, 10:19 PM
That's what makes the most sense to me, too, given we need to consider the gray part as belonging to the critter thing.
Scooby
Dec 3 2007, 09:41 AM
When I first saw it, turkey jumped to mind. Could it be a turkey flapping up to a limb or over an obstacle?
jasonch1112
Dec 4 2007, 11:53 PM
Looks like a horse's rear end to be honest. Near the trunk the form is more brown than grey like the rest of the animal. That looks like it's neck to me. You can also make out it's legs a bit as well.
And yes I am serious about it looking like a horse's rear end and not poking fun at it.
JayleeD
Dec 5 2007, 09:24 PM
Hey Mitch! I'm so glad to see you posting here. Would you mind sharing the information about the rabbit? I know your Dad has told us about it, but you tell it better.
xpert4u
Dec 6 2007, 04:22 AM
QUOTE(Yetifan @ Nov 27 2007, 05:31 PM)

It kinda looks like something flying from left to right...the slight blur and shape indicate that to me.
It also might be quite a bit closer to the camera than the treeline, thereby giving the possible impression of relative bigness.
Bingo, we have a winner. Its a crow flying across the camera and reflexsion off the wings...
Flashman
Dec 6 2007, 09:57 AM
thought this picture might be of interest...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Common_raves_landfill.jpgJust for showing how light shines off the wings of Ravens and Crows.
ozzy_tx
Dec 14 2007, 09:43 AM
"Tell me about the rabbits George............."
cryptidon
Dec 14 2007, 10:39 AM
QUOTE(ozzy_tx @ Dec 14 2007, 10:43 AM)

"Tell me about the rabbits George............."
Well done. Little bit of coffee up the nose.
watch1
Dec 14 2007, 10:43 AM
This is just about the max you can enlarge this photo without pix-ation taking over.
If you don't have good resolution on your monitor and a good graphics card to back it up you want see what is really there.
Mike (watch1)
scibaer
Dec 14 2007, 02:55 PM
if i may chime in here.
i see a hen ( turkey ).. running away from the camera. you can even see the bottom of her footjust below the body and to the right, its the light spot.
i believes its alot closer to the camera then it looks and its a bit off the ground.
ever spook a hen or poult and see them hop up off the ground ?
anyhow, thats what i see.
glenn
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