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atmal
Came across an interesting story of an ape sighting in Florida

http://www.nbc10.com/news/14585860/detail.html
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Small Town Overcome By Mysterious Ape Sightings
Some Believe Animal Is An Orangutan


Residents have been hearing screeches in the night and stories of sightings echo on every corner.

The local newspaper even ran a story about the sightings.

"There is kind of that 'I've seen a bigfoot' type of feel to it," said resident Eric Lawson. "They said it made a nest in that tree, so it's probably somewhere here in the area."

Some believe the mysterious animal is an orangutan -- one local family had found what looked to be an orange ape up high in a tree.

The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission investigator who answered the original complaint call on the orange ape said there was definitely something up in the top of the tree, but he really couldn't be sure what it was.

He said he took a pack of jelly donuts and left it at the bottom of the tree, hoping to lure the creature to the ground.

He said he hasn't heard anything since.

"The next morning, the people came out and it was, it was gone," Lawson said.

If the mysterious animal was an ape, where did it come from? State officials said no one in Baker County is licensed to own an orangutan."
Robert
The wildlife officer was diligent in his investigation, even going so far as to give up his breakfast in an earnest attempt to lure the unknown creature to the ground.

What can I say....
RayG
QUOTE(atmal @ Nov 14 2007, 07:22 AM) *
"The next morning, the people came out and it was, it was gone," Lawson said.


The pack of jelly donuts or the mystery ape? scratchhead.gif

RayG
hopeful
The wildlife officer was diligent in his investigation, right up until quittin' time when he left the mysterious ape-like creature up in the tree and hightailed it for home. rolleyes2.gif

I can't believe that the townspeople just all went to bed and nobody was curious enough to watch the animal until it decided to come down. I do believe many of us would have probably been out there watching all night!

QUOTE(RayG @ Nov 14 2007, 07:20 AM) *
The pack of jelly donuts or the mystery ape? scratchhead.gif

RayG

No, just the tree. coverlaugh.gif
Mon0705
QUOTE(hopeful @ Nov 14 2007, 08:23 AM) *
I can't believe that the townspeople just all went to bed and nobody was curious enough to watch the animal until it decided to come down. I do believe many of us would have probably been out there watching all night!


No game camera to watch the jelly donuts while everyone went home?!?!?! insane.gif
WmRoy
Seems like a terrible waste of a jelly dounut.......... if they'd have given me a cup of coffee and the dounuts I'd have been happy to stand the watch............. wink.gif
shagomatic
I can't believe that no one had anymore concern than to just leave doughnuts and walk away???!! Even if it were just an orangutan, what about public safety? I don't think the magnitude of this situation was ever realized by anyone there. This was a big deal, one way or the other. Bigfoot or orangutan, it should have been dealt with much more seriously. IMO
Redwolf
Not just public safety...what about the poor animal???

Sheesh!
Robert
Baker County, Florida
Baker County is a county located in the U.S. state of Florida. As of 2000, the population was 22,259. The U.S. Census Bureau 2005 estimate for the county is 24,569. Its county seat is Macclenny, Florida. While primarily rural, the county is included in the Jacksonville Metropolitan Area.

There are three tiny towns in Baker County. Most of it is swampy wilderness. The people there are somewhat 'culturally challanged'.
Scooby
I just find it hard to believe that an animal control officer would just leave an unidentified animal hanging out in a tree in a populated area. What about public safety issues? And I find it hard to believe that no one would stay up and watch to see what the animal was if it did come down. What if it was an orangutan? A chimp? A bear? Or Jacob’s Creature?


Just read Robert’s after I posted:

“The people there are somewhat 'culturally challanged'.”

Then I can’t imagine someone didn’t shoot it. It sure could have happened like that around here. Hey Bubba I gots me one of dem der big footies.
Robert
"Whut's that there big hairy thang up there in that galdang ol tree? Ahmoan shoot it wit my pistol and see."

BANG! BANG! BANG! BANG! BANK! BANG! click click click click click
Texas Bigfoot
Well iF no one is licensed to own an Orangutan, CASE CLOSED!
Apeman
Please let me know when the motel rooms fill up.

-A
gst4life
Thats ridiculous that they got this creature, possibly an orangutan , possibly an unknown primate, singled out to the top of tree ( As in the report) and it still gets away. Yet these bigfoot hunters out near the west have it singled out to huge wilderness areas.


I mean, when you get the animal down to a single tree, it should be caught.
Scooby
Could this be a publicity stunt concocted after the Jacob’s Creature thing? You have to admit that JC got a lot of press attention and I’d say the local economy had a little boom afterwards.
Hominid,WA
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gst4life
QUOTE(Scooby @ Nov 14 2007, 12:34 PM) *
Could this be a publicity stunt concocted after the Jacob’s Creature thing? You have to admit that JC got a lot of press attention and I’d say the local economy had a little boom afterwards.

Kinda of unlucky that the only time Bigfoot even if it is, finally comes near a gamecam and it has to sniff the ground randomly. Why oh why can't he just smile for the camera.
slinky chix
If the donuts were missing it was probably one of the other cops ...

I'm in Florida and haven't heard this story (yet) on the news. Unfortunately skunk ape/bigfoot stories always get a chuckle out of the newscasters whether they are legit or hoax stories.
hopeful
QUOTE(Scooby @ Nov 14 2007, 11:34 AM) *
Could this be a publicity stunt concocted after the Jacob’s Creature thing? You have to admit that JC got a lot of press attention and I’d say the local economy had a little boom afterwards.

Correctamundo, Scooby-doob.

Hence,
QUOTE(Apeman @ Nov 14 2007, 11:24 AM) *
Please let me know when the motel rooms fill up.

-A


QUOTE(gst4life @ Nov 14 2007, 11:28 AM) *
Thats ridiculous that they got this creature, possibly an orangutan , possibly an unknown primate, singled out to the top of tree ( As in the report) and it still gets away. Yet these bigfoot hunters out near the west have it singled out to huge wilderness areas.
I mean, when you get the animal down to a single tree, it should be caught.

Amen, Brother!!!
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey atmal & everyone ive been seeing alot these new articles about the florida apes ie bigfoot on internet news lately wow i like the above opinions as well. good evening. bill smile.gif
MYM
This is a pretty neat story but it's just as likely to be an actual orangutan as it is a skunk ape. When i was living in Florida I was friends with a gal who worked on an Everglades tour and she used to tell me all the time about how many critters in tehre don't actually belong like pythons and goanna's (spelling) and such. Still hard to believe the investigation consisted of a craned enck and a sack of jellys. Somewhere Ace Ventura reads this and weeps....
accozzaglia
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He said he took a pack of jelly donuts and left it at the bottom of the tree, hoping to lure the creature to the ground.

He said he hasn't heard anything since.


See, it's a shame for the orangutan that Florida doesn't have any Timmies, because if it did and it was where the pack of jellies came from, you know that orangutan would have been there like clockwork the next morning, waiting for a new pack.

It might also have a sign on the third day saying "CRULLERS PLZ & U CAN TAKE PICS OF ME".

And after this week-long cycle of donuts, it might become more approachable -- perhaps to the point where it leisurely comes down the tree, sits, grabs its double-double, and asks if you're done reading the comics section.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey mym & everyone yes this is indeed a very interesting new story comeing out florida im still seeing articles about it on various internet news search engines . wow i realy like the above opinions as well keep them comeing. bill
tugboatwa
http://www.news4jax.com/news/14596253/detail.html
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Great Ape Spotted In Woods Near Macclenny
Official Uses Box Of Donuts In Attempt To Lure Ape From Tree


MACCLENNY, Fla. -- State wildlife officers are hoping to capture what appears to be an orangutan sighted earlier this month in the woods of Baker County.

On Nov. 2, two men called animal control to report seeing what appeared to be a large ape in a tree off Harry Rewis Road, north of Macclenny.

Animal control officer Tina Thomas went out and confirmed seeing a "big red fur ball" -- apparently an ape -- sitting in a tree.

"We got this call and this man said, 'You are just not going to believe this and I'm not crazy.' I said, 'What is it? We've heard a lot of things.' He said, 'I have a monkey in my tree.'" Thomas said. "I thought the man was on drugs. I said, 'Are you sure?' He was like, 'I'm telling you I'm not on drugs and I ain't been drinking.'"

Not equipped with the proper training to handle such an exotic animal, Thomas said she immediately called the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission to send an officer out.

When Thomas got to the scene, she saw the animal and realized the caller was right.

"We got the binoculars and could see the whole body of the ape. He was red with a lighter color face," Thomas said.

About 100 feet up in a tree, the ape fit the description of an orangutan. She said the ape was about 3 or 4 feet tall and was curled up, nesting in a pile of leaves.

"We were just wondering where he had came from and if he was wild or somebody's pet. But he was definitely wild. He didn't like people," said Rock Rohden, who saw the ape.

When a Fish and Wildlife arrived at the scene, the officer couldn't identify the animal and did not want to try to tranquilize the animal because it was 100 feet off the ground, so he set out a box of doughnuts and told folks to call him if it came down.

The orangutan apparently did come down, but no one saw it. The morning after the ape was spotted, it was gone.

"The game warden stated to leave the animal be, that he would remove himself on his own and that he was probably scared and would go on his way to where he needed to be," Thomas said.

Orangutans, known for their red fur, are native to Malaysia and Indonesia.

Thomas speculated that the animal may be a refugee from an off-road tourist attraction that was damaged by the storms in 2004.

A large patas monkey was captured in Columbia County one year ago. State officials said it belonged to a homeowner who had a permit.

Officials said it has been about two weeks since anyone has spotted the ape. They said anyone who sees the animal is advised not to go near it and to immediately call the wildlife alert line at 888-404-3922.

Copyright 2007 by News4Jax.com.
andhttp://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/111507/met_217794500.shtml
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Baker sightings have residents talking Bigfoot
Several in the Macclenny area have reported seeing a "big orange ball of fur" in the trees.


By ADAM AASEN, The Times-Union

An orangutan sighting has Baker County residents going ape, and now Fish and Wildlife officials are hoping to lure the animal out of the trees using a secret weapon: doughnuts.

Although the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission can't confirm it was an ape, some people reported seeing a "big orange ball of fur," said Karen Parker, Fish and Wildlife spokeswoman.

Some think it's just a spider monkey or a squirrel. Others are seriously investigating whether it was a "baby Bigfoot."

One thing is for sure, the animal is still on the loose and it apparently has a hunger for jelly doughnuts.

On Oct. 30, Fish and Wildlife investigator Ken Holmes said he got a call about the animal stealing the sweet snacks from a bear hunter who lives near Macclenny. Holmes looked into the tall pine tree and saw something moving around but couldn't confirm if it was an ape, squirrel, monkey, raccoon or even a cat.

So Holmes decided to lay doughnuts at the base of the tree to lure the creature out. The animal left but wasn't seen or captured.

Earlier this month, Baker County Animal Control received a report of two men seeing an ape in a tree off Harry Rewis Road in Macclenny, Parker said.

Tina Thomas, an animal control officer in Baker County, said she saw an orange-colored ape sitting in a tree that was "much larger than a spider monkey."

"I wouldn't have believed it, but I saw it with my own eyes," she said.

On Wednesday, Holmes received a call from a Bigfoot research group asking about the animal. The researcher said there are reports of juvenile Bigfoots in Florida. Holmes said he answered all of his questions but "almost wanted to correct him that the proper term in Florida is 'skunk apes.' "

"I can't confirm that it wasn't Bigfoot," he said. "That's one possibility. It's just not a possibility I'm exploring."

Holmes said he isn't even sure it was an ape in the tree because there are orange-colored spider monkeys. He said it's illegal to own an orangutan in Florida without a commercial permit, and nobody in the area is registered to have one. The closest zoo is in Jacksonville, and no animals have been reported missing.

If he finds the animal, Holmes said it would not be killed but tranquilized and captured until an appropriate home can be decided for it. He said there is no danger to residents.

This isn't the first time Holmes has gone monkey hunting in Florida. He said he captured a patas monkey last year, a fast, slender animal known as the "greyhound of monkeys."

Holmes said as he tried to grab the monkey, the patas drop-kicked him twice without warning. He was able to calm the animal using his old fallback - food.

"Luckily I had a fruit salad packed for lunch, trying to be healthy," he said. "The monkey took some grapes and he was fine."

adam.aasen@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4247
moregon
I found this article today, doing a check to see if there was any more information in regards to the sighting. What that article left out, as well as many others online is that the local animal control officer showed up before the State Wildlife Officers and got a good look at it through binoculars. Her opinion is it was in fact an Orangutan.

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Great Ape Spotted In Woods Near Macclenny
Official Uses Box Of Donuts In Attempt To Lure Ape From Tree

POSTED: 2:51 pm EST November 14, 2007

MACCLENNY, Fla. -- State wildlife officers are hoping to capture what appears to be an orangutan sighted earlier this month in the woods of Baker County.

On Nov. 2, two men called animal control to report seeing what appeared to be a large ape in a tree off Harry Rewis Road, north of Macclenny.

Animal control officer Tina Thomas went out and confirmed seeing a "big red fur ball" -- apparently an ape -- sitting in a tree.

"We got this call and this man said, 'You are just not going to believe this and I'm not crazy.' I said, 'What is it? We've heard a lot of things.' He said, 'I have a monkey in my tree.'" Thomas said. "I thought the man was on drugs. I said, 'Are you sure?' He was like, 'I'm telling you I'm not on drugs and I ain't been drinking.'"

Not equipped with the proper training to handle such an exotic animal, Thomas said she immediately called the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission to send an officer out.

When Thomas got to the scene, she saw the animal and realized the caller was right.

"We got the binoculars and could see the whole body of the ape. He was red with a lighter color face," Thomas said.

About 100 feet up in a tree, the ape fit the description of an orangutan. She said the ape was about 3 or 4 feet tall and was curled up, nesting in a pile of leaves.

"We were just wondering where he had came from and if he was wild or somebody's pet. But he was definitely wild. He didn't like people," said Rock Rohden, who saw the ape.

When a Fish and Wildlife arrived at the scene, the officer couldn't identify the animal and did not want to try to tranquilize the animal because it was 100 feet off the ground, so he set out a box of doughnuts and told folks to call him if it came down.

The orangutan apparently did come down, but no one saw it. The morning after the ape was spotted, it was gone.

"The game warden stated to leave the animal be, that he would remove himself on his own and that he was probably scared and would go on his way to where he needed to be," Thomas said.

Orangutans, known for their red fur, are native to Malaysia and Indonesia.

Thomas speculated that the animal may be a refugee from an off-road tourist attraction that was damaged by the storms in 2004.
A large patas monkey was captured in Columbia County one year ago. State officials said it belonged to a homeowner who had a permit.

Officials said it has been about two weeks since anyone has spotted the ape. They said anyone who sees the animal is advised not to go near it and to immediately call the wildlife alert line at 888-404-3922.


(Emphasis Mine)

http://www.news4jax.com/news/14596253/deta...ax&psp=news

I just saw that tugboat added more articles and information here http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...c=20928&hl=
Scooby
"On Wednesday, Holmes received a call from a Bigfoot research group asking about the animal. The researcher said there are reports of juvenile Bigfoots in Florida. Holmes said he answered all of his questions but "almost wanted to correct him that the proper term in Florida is 'skunk apes."

Wonder what group that was? Seriously.

Edited to add: thanks Tug for the updated story.
moregon
Most likely Biscardi's group which is located in Florida.
Scooby
Moregon has another article posted in this thread,
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...mp;#entry420599
Dad
On Oct. 30, Fish and Wildlife investigator Ken Holmes said he got a call about the animal stealing the sweet snacks from a bear hunter who lives near Macclenny. Holmes looked into the tall pine tree and saw something moving around but couldn't confirm if it was an ape, squirrel, monkey, raccoon or even a cat.

On Wednesday, Holmes received a call from a Bigfoot research group asking about the animal. The researcher said there are reports of juvenile Bigfoots in Florida. Holmes said he answered all of his questions but "almost wanted to correct him that the proper term in Florida is 'skunk apes.' "

"I can't confirm that it wasn't Bigfoot," he said. "That's one possibility. It's just not a possibility I'm exploring."



And people wonder why I don't respect the opinion of most Fish and Wildlife paid 'experts'.......couldn't tell if it was an ape or a cat....but too closed minded to even consider anything else...


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billgreen2005bigfoot
hey moregon wow yes i read that article today whats a ape & orangutan doing in florida everglades & can it live etc with out being harmed . there is i guess alot food resources in the everglades but does this realy explain the sasquatch ie skunk ape sightings out there. opinions please. bill
Apeman
I don't think he's being close-minded, he's just in tune with reality and likelihood.


I especially like this part:
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But he was definitely wild. He didn't like people," said Rock Rohden, who saw the ape.
Versus those domesticated orangutans? headbang.gif So its' wildness somehow means that it didn't come from a home, crappy zoo, or other roadside attraction because those orangutans love being chained to poles or kept in cages with their teeth ripped out, smoking, riding bicycles, or boxing drunken ignorant golf pros- because those things really align them with humans?


It's going to be interesting to see if this does turn out to be an orangutan and if they can figure out where it came from. I guess we need to start revving up the "it's still not an orangutan" argument for the Myakka photos...

-Apeman
uffda320
If you watch the video from that first story posted, they say the fruit and vegetable vendor (ED) disappeared the same time the ape did. So, are they implying that the two are connected? Maybe the Orang belonged to Ed?
PASquatcher
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Holmes said as he tried to grab the monkey, the patas drop-kicked him twice without warning.


rofl02.gif man I woulda loved to see that!..... Maybe it was a descendant of Gorilla Monsoon.
hopeful
The term 'drop-kick' makes me visualize a football player drop kicking a football. If a monkey did that to me, I would probably consider the first one a warning before he drop kicked me a second time. coverlaugh.gif
moregon
Apeman years ago I took a trip with two of my younger brothers down to Florida taking in many of the major sites including Disney World, The Coral Castle, Key West, and a trip into the Everglades. Along the way we stopped at one of those "Roadside Attractions that had caged and/or chained animals. About the saddest thing I saw down there was at that attraction where they had a Mandrill in a box not much larger than itself. You could buy this biscuit shaped treats to feed them and when I reached towards him to hand him the treat he nearly ripped my hand off trying to get it. But what really disturbed me as I stood and watched him for a while is while sitting there he kept staring at his right hand, then would slap himself in the head, grab his right hand with his left and start biting on the right hand. My personal feeling was this Mandrill had been confined to that cage for far too long. Since then I've never visited another of those attractions that featured live animals confined in those manners.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey moregan this new story about florida ape is realy getting big & exciting etc. i bet we will see alot more articles about it in weeks to come maybe i could be wrong lol. bill smile.gif
damndirtyape
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gngKdSe...HXiqagD8SUAKB02
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Will Doughnut Trap Lure Mystery Animal?

MACCLENNY, Fla. – Whether the mystery critter roaming northern Florida is an orangutan, a “baby Bigfoot” or something else, wildlife officials think it might have a bit of Homer Simpson in it.

After a bear hunter said an animal that could be an orangutan stole jelly doughnuts from him, a wildlife investigator has tried to use sweet treats to lure the creature into the open in Baker County.

There have been several sightings of what witnesses have described as a “big orange ball of fur,” though officials have yet to confirm it’s an orangutan, said Karen Parker, a spokeswoman for Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.

Fish and wildlife investigator Ken Holmes laid doughnuts at the base of a tree in hopes of catching the animal, but it eluded him.

It’s illegal to own an orangutan in Florida without a commercial permit, and none are registered in the area, Holmes said. The closest zoo is in Jacksonville, about 30 miles east, but it hasn’t reported any missing animals.

Some residents think the animal is a spider monkey or even a squirrel. Holmes said he also got a call from a Bigfoot research group asking about it.

“I can’t confirm that it wasn’t Bigfoot,” he said. “That’s one possibility. It’s just not a possibility I’m exploring.”
Morgoth
QUOTE(damndirtyape @ Nov 16 2007, 06:11 AM) *
[There have been several sightings of what witnesses have described as a “big orange ball of fur,” though officials have yet to confirm it’s an orangutan, said Karen Parker, a spokeswoman for Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission.


And on YouTube from NW Florida, note the orange color...
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey researchers there is alot talk about this new ape in florida news. im sure there will opinions about it. thanks bill smile.gif
Robert
QUOTE(moregon @ Nov 15 2007, 07:22 PM) *
Apeman years ago I took a trip with two of my younger brothers down to Florida taking in many of the major sites including Disney World, The Coral Castle, Key West, and a trip into the Everglades. Along the way we stopped at one of those "Roadside Attractions that had caged and/or chained animals. About the saddest thing I saw down there was at that attraction where they had a Mandrill in a box not much larger than itself. You could buy this biscuit shaped treats to feed them and when I reached towards him to hand him the treat he nearly ripped my hand off trying to get it. But what really disturbed me as I stood and watched him for a while is while sitting there he kept staring at his right hand, then would slap himself in the head, grab his right hand with his left and start biting on the right hand. My personal feeling was this Mandrill had been confined to that cage for far too long. Since then I've never visited another of those attractions that featured live animals confined in those manners.


Moregon,

As far as I know all those roadside zoos have long since been shut down and the animals were released. They were truly sad. How long ago was this that you were here?
Morgoth
QUOTE(Robert @ Nov 16 2007, 07:56 AM) *
As far as I know all those roadside zoos have long since been shut down and the animals were released. They were truly sad. How long ago was this that you were here?


I did a lot of research into the wild ape situation in Florida during the Myakka debacle. Here are some possible sources:

1) Exotic pets
2) Illegal imports
3) Medical labs
4) Escaped circus animals

The orangutans can live in the wild down there. Florida is a main center for each of the four sources listed above.
StacyInMI
There is a colony of wild Rhesus monkeys living in Florida.

(Link)

Seems like I heard some time ago about wild chimanzees thriving somewhere down there too, but Google didn't come up with anything.
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey stacy wow very interesting new link about monkeys. yes there is a couple new articles about florida bigfoot in google news just type bigfoot in google news search engine they will be there. bill
Flashman
My cats live comfortably, but they'll still run from everyone, including me more often than not, if they get out.
Robert
I think I have posted the story about the 'monkey field' here at least once before.

An old guy I used to hunt with had a story about a gang of monkeys that lived in one big field in the St. Cloud area (south east of Kissimmee). He said that they had been released from a roadside zoo and were just living wild.
Saskeptic
QUOTE(PASquatcher @ Nov 15 2007, 12:06 PM) *
rofl02.gif man I woulda loved to see that!..... Maybe it was a descendant of Gorilla Monsoon.



I once participated on a patas monkey rescue mission* from a run down apartment in the inner city. That sucker was insane! I still don't think I've ever seen a cornered animal fight more vigorously than that thing.


*used to work at a zoo back in the day
Morgoth
QUOTE(Morgoth @ Nov 16 2007, 07:16 AM) *
And on YouTube from NW Florida, note the orange color...



Whoops, here is the link:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HvPOd0Wx3E
Morgoth
Click to view attachment

better view...
Morgoth
and bigger. Are there two of them?

Click to view attachment
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey morgoth wow lol very interesting above photos indeed.. bill
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