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PASquatcher
QUOTE(hopeful @ Nov 15 2007, 07:05 PM) *
The term 'drop-kick' makes me visualize a football player drop kicking a football. If a monkey did that to me, I would probably consider the first one a warning before he drop kicked me a second time. coverlaugh.gif


This was more like the visual I was getting....... new_lmaosmiley.gif

WmRoy
QUOTE(Morgoth @ Nov 16 2007, 02:06 PM) *
and bigger. Are there two of them?

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Uhmm........ I can almost believe there are two also......... that's very interesting.

At least it's obvious it's not a bear this time...... gotta be a primate of some sort?
Robert
These two guys are really young (you can tell by the amount of times the one says f---) but in spite of that, this is one of the more believable looking blobsquatch Utube videos I have seen.
moregon
I wouldn't say REALLY young. The appearance of the one at the beginning of the video I'd say he's probably mid to late 20s at least. Heck I know guys near 40 that talk just like that.
Saskeptic
I can be convinced I see two somethings that are defintiely not orangs. The larger one sure looks like a naked caucasian man to me. Could this be video of "naturists" enjoying their pastime in a secluded area, or perhaps just a couple of people gettin' busy outside?
Robert
QUOTE(moregon @ Nov 16 2007, 04:35 PM) *
I wouldn't say REALLY young. The appearance of the one at the beginning of the video I'd say he's probably mid to late 20s at least. Heck I know guys near 40 that talk just like that.


I'm really showing my age. Mid 20's seems really young to me.

Saskeptic, they could very well be naked Caucasian men. It wouldn't be the first time a streaker in the woods was caught on video.
Morgoth
QUOTE(Robert @ Nov 16 2007, 01:45 PM) *
Saskeptic, they could very well be naked Caucasian men. It wouldn't be the first time a streaker in the woods was caught on video.


Arms are too long, no hair on the head...
Saskeptic
QUOTE(Morgoth @ Nov 16 2007, 04:10 PM) *
Arms are too long, no hair on the head...



I'll defer to your ability to make those assessments, but to my untrained eye they don't look too long. Look kinda like a dude extending his arms out for balance over uneven terrain.

Bald head does not indicate human? No entiendo.
moregon
Pictures of some bald primates found online.. not including human...



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Morgoth
QUOTE(Saskeptic @ Nov 16 2007, 02:24 PM) *
Look kinda like a dude extending his arms out for balance over uneven terrain. Bald head does not indicate human?


So it's a long armed naked guy running around in the brambles who shaved his head and applied self tanner. Kinda like the lake chelan thread where we had a giant tourist visiting the evacuated area wearing a full body rain suit with an attractive dark brown color in the sweltering heat waiting for the fire to come. It could happen...
hopeful
Here is the description on YouTube written by the poster of the video.

(My emphasis.)
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My friend Ryan and I were filming in the woods near Destin, Florida while looking for a camping spot. We heard something walking through the brush nearby and managed to get a few seconds of footage of what appeared to be a man, but was extremely large and covered in thick hair. This was not a bear as it was clearly walking upright. We've heard about the Florida Sasquatch, or "Skunkape," (you can watch some videos about it on YouTube) but we've never heard about one being seen locally. It's hard to tell on the video, but this animal was covered in light-brown hair and ran away when we tried to approach - we thought it was a person at first, but it wouldn't respond to us. We saw no other cars or people that day in the state forest.
We're not Bigfoot hunters and we didn't doctor this video. Please let us know what you think and tell us if you've seen something like this in the Panhandle/Emerald Coast area.


Also at the end of the recording he says something like, "Get your camera, I'm turning this one off." I wonder if they got any more on film.

edited to correct spelling
BlueGenes
I am no expert in the dorsal (or ventral) morphology of naked Caucasians males. However, after viewing the film, the first conclusion I came to was "a scared white dude running in his birthday suit". Forgive me if I don't post a photo of the real thing to compare to a still from this film.

Edited to add the word "males". I do have some pride.
WmRoy
Have any BF folks headed that way?

I'll say it again this sure beats a photo of a bear.............

It doesn't look like a naked man to me either. As an old time weightlifter, I know plenty of guys who hold their arms way out from their sides, but I've never seen anyone hold their arms guite like this thing is.

I do find this video and report to be very interesting........... kinda nice to have something I'm not ready to shoot holes in right out of the chute......... wink.gif
billgreen2005bigfoot
i just found new article about the florida ape in google news according... to the article the ape might be a big squirrel now omg cant they tell the differance lmao again. i see a cover up comeing up down in florida oboy buckle up..
moregon
Hey billgreen I saw that report too..

However the first person on the scene was an animal control officer and their estimate of size was 3-4 feet. As far as I'm concerned a live specimen of a 4 foot tall squirrel would be almost as exciting as as bigfoot specimen! Or course the question would be is there enough acorns in Florida to sustain a 4 foot squirrel!
billgreen2005bigfoot
QUOTE(moregon @ Nov 17 2007, 01:22 AM) *
Hey billgreen I saw that report too..

However the first person on the scene was an animal control officer and their estimate of size was 3-4 feet. As far as I'm concerned a live specimen of a 4 foot tall squirrel would be almost as exciting as as bigfoot specimen! Or course the question would be is there enough acorns in Florida to sustain a 4 foot squirrel!

hey moregon thats great, yes i have a big feeling there going some sort of cover up about this situation in florida only time will tell about that. lol to above reply. but this ape story is far from being over indeedy.. thanks bill . opinions please thumbup.gif
Maheekat
QUOTE(Apeman @ Nov 14 2007, 12:24 PM) *
Please let me know when the motel rooms fill up.

-A

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moregon
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Personally I haven't subscribed to the belief of coverups, but after reading this article, I'm seriously having second thoughts about that idea.

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stor...218301559.shtml
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Mystery creature in Baker County not monkey or Bigfoot - likely just a squirrel

By ADAM AASEN, The Times-Union

Stories of an orange, furry animal in the woods of Baker County eating up jelly doughnuts and resembling an orangutan - and mythbusters forbid, even Bigfoot - spread like wildfire as media got a hold of the tale.

Turns out all the hoopla was probably about an orange phase fox squirrel, the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission announced Friday.

Fish and Wildlife investigator Ken Holmes said the creature is not behaving like a primate, especially with its nocturnal activity.

"I'm not discounting anything. However, this creature, whatever it may be, simply isn't acting like a primate," Holmes said in a statement.

On Oct. 30, Holmes said he got a call about the mystery animal stealing the sweet snacks from a bear hunter who lives near Macclenny. Holmes looked into the tall pine tree and saw something 100 feet up moving around but couldn't confirm if it was an ape, squirrel, monkey, raccoon or even a cat.

So Holmes decided to lay doughnuts at the base of the tree to lure the creature out. The animal left but wasn't seen or captured.

From the way he was eating the doughnuts, Holmes said it probably wasn't an ape.

"Orangutans are messy eaters. If the animal were an orangutan, you would expect to find pieces of donuts or fruit scattered all over the place, rather than just neatly nibbled," Holmes said.

Holmes said it's very unlikely someone in the area owned an orangutan, which requires a commercial permit in Florida. He said he's seen a lot of unusual animals owned in captivity such as tigers and chimpanzees, but orangutans are expensive to own.

"I'll be astonished if it's an orangutan. I can quite confidently say it's probably not an orangutan," he said.

Earlier this month, Baker County Animal Control received a report of two men seeing an ape in a tree off Harry Rewis Road in Macclenny, Parker said.

Tina Thomas, an animal control officer in Baker County, said she saw an orange-colored ape sitting in a tree that was "much larger than a spider monkey."

A Bigfoot research commission also called Holmes to ask about the creature.

Holmes told the Times-Union Friday afternoon that it's interesting how these rumors get started. He said once a woman called him about a full African lion - mane and all - in her bushes. Turns out it was a chow dog.

"I told her I guess I could see that at 1 in the morning it's pretty dark and you could make a mistake," he said.

Holmes said he doesn't want to say anyone is lying but "the mind can play tricks on you" and animals can look like a lot of different things depending on the viewpoint.

adam.aasen@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4247


http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?act...=41&t=20915

If you go back to this link Interview with Tina Thomas Animal Control Officer and watch the video on the right side of the page, you'll hear what Ms. Thomas actually said.

Her statement was the man said there was a "Monkey" in his tree.
She said she used binoculars and saw the entire body of the "Ape"
She estimated it at 3-4 feet in length and weighing 50 pounds.
She said it was red with a lighter colored face.

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Holmes said he doesn't want to say anyone is lying but "the mind can play tricks on you" and animals can look like a lot of different things depending on the viewpoint.


Considering Ms. Thomas claims to have seen the Entire Body, it would be hard to understand how she could have overlooked a TAIL as long and bushy as a fox squirrel's tail is.

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A Fox Squirrel reaches a maxium of 27 inches long and 13 inches of that is it's tail, and weighs around three pounds. Even at 100 feet away, which is the estimated height it was in the tree I think most people especially looking through binoculars could tell a squirrel when they saw one. They certainly don't look like an ape, are nowhere near 50 pounds in weight and if she didn't see the tail it meant she was only looking at a body 14 inches long which is certainly not 3 or 4 feet long.

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On Oct. 30, Holmes said he got a call about the mystery animal stealing the sweet snacks from a bear hunter who lives near Macclenny. Holmes looked into the tall pine tree and saw something 100 feet up moving around but couldn't confirm if it was an ape, squirrel, monkey, raccoon or even a cat.


That's an awful wide range of sizes of animals he couldn't confirm from 3 - 50+ pounds. He couldn't tell if it was big or small? Who knows maybe he's catching heat for leaving the scene instead of staying there to verify exactly what it was. If it turns out to be an Orangutan and he allowed a possibly dangerous animal to roam free instead of capturing it? If someone gets hurt would the state now be liable since they had the opportunity to capture it?
StacyInMI
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From the way he was eating the doughnuts, Holmes said it probably wasn't an ape.

"Orangutans are messy eaters. If the animal were an orangutan, you would expect to find pieces of donuts or fruit scattered all over the place, rather than just neatly nibbled," Holmes said.

So an ape couldn't have eaten the donuts, but a little squirrel ate them all and didn't leave a mess? Okaaaayyyyyyy.

Sounds like the way the DNR tries to deny a breeding population of cougars here.
WmRoy
Moregon,

I'm with you on this one too. I'm never a big believer in cover-ups, but this one stinks badly.

Something just isn't kosher here...............
John1970
QUOTE(moregon @ Nov 15 2007, 06:22 PM) *
Apeman years ago I took a trip with two of my younger brothers down to Florida taking in many of the major sites including Disney World, The Coral Castle, Key West, and a trip into the Everglades. Along the way we stopped at one of those "Roadside Attractions that had caged and/or chained animals. About the saddest thing I saw down there was at that attraction where they had a Mandrill in a box not much larger than itself. You could buy this biscuit shaped treats to feed them and when I reached towards him to hand him the treat he nearly ripped my hand off trying to get it. But what really disturbed me as I stood and watched him for a while is while sitting there he kept staring at his right hand, then would slap himself in the head, grab his right hand with his left and start biting on the right hand. My personal feeling was this Mandrill had been confined to that cage for far too long. Since then I've never visited another of those attractions that featured live animals confined in those manners.



Years ago when I was in the Navy, on a visit to Egypt, I took a tour bus to Cairo to see the pyramids. A rest stop along the way had a roadside zoo. Their "exotic" animals consisted of a raccoon and a duck.
WmRoy
Thank you very little for that one.............. I need to go wash my eyes........
tiger66
Aieeeee!!!!!! I'm blind!!!!! yuk.gif

Here ya go accozzaglia - computerpunch.gif - never do that again!
mkianni
Great Scott!!! blink.gif

Now if you could have done that with Byonce instead I probably wouldn't have to suffer the nightmare's that will surly ensue.
Redwolf
Hey..could we get a little warning next time? Some people have computers in areas with small children.
FredSneakers/David
Can't..Take eyes...off...of..screen..... new_weirdsmiley.gif
WmRoy
You worry me there Fred.............
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey moregon yes i totaly agree with above reply about some sort of cover up. bill. but i guess that what we should expect from wildlife officials etc. opinions please..
FredSneakers/David
LOL
Me too Roy, me too.... ermm.gif

Seriously though, Saskeptic is right, it does look totally like a naked caucasoid Homo sapian, despite what the filmers say.


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Great Scott!!!


Surely you mean greay Hoff
PinelandsResearcher
Skinny bigfoot with mange? whistling.gif
WmRoy
QUOTE(FredSneakers/David @ Nov 17 2007, 09:01 PM) *
Seriously though, Saskeptic is right, it does look totally like a naked caucasoid Homo sapian,


I disagree, I have the benefit of being an old fart. The figure (the first one the second is too blurred) holds it's arms out at a very odd angle from it's body. I've been around weightlifters and bodybuilders for almost twice as long as you've been alive, I've never seen anyone hold their arms out at this angle when walking...... and I've seen guys really hold their arms out either because their lats were so big or just because they wanted to look bigger. Either the camera angle is making it appear as such or this thing is some other member of the ape family.

Oddly, I for once see something I'm not ready to toss out on it's ear............. scratchhead.gif
dug-mac
Not sure what this video shows but I like it for its apparent rawness. It does look like the guys have been drinking beer, but they are believable if they are acting. I agree that it does kind of look like a fairly muscular guy running naked (and perhaps followed by his better half?), but there is something not quite right to my eye if this is the case. He runs off like he's afraid for his life, not of simply being discovered "doing the deed". Perhaps he's cheating on his wife or something and is aware that these guys have a video camera? I realize I'm reading a lot into it, but if they're just messing around out there why don't they just pull up their pants, smoke a cigarette, and call it a day?
FredSneakers/David
QUOTE(WmRoy @ Nov 17 2007, 07:38 PM) *
I disagree, I have the benefit of being an old fart. The figure (the first one the second is too blurred) holds it's arms out at a very odd angle from it's body. I've been around weightlifters and bodybuilders for almost twice as long as you've been alive, I've never seen anyone hold their arms out at this angle when walking...... and I've seen guys really hold their arms out either because their lats were so big or just because they wanted to look bigger. Either the camera angle is making it appear as such or this thing is some other member of the ape family.


Ah, my age has played against me, it was bound to happen one of these days. rolleyes2.gif

The figure in this footage certainly is not walking on a flat surface, and the angle of his arms presumably reflects his balance. Though his arms look awkward, he is in an awkward situation.

Two human like figures in the bushes apparently naked is not, I feel inappropriate saying this but it's true, that out of the ordinary of an event (speaking for, of course, my age group).
wolftrax
QUOTE(Morgoth @ Nov 16 2007, 05:38 PM) *
So it's a long armed naked guy running around in the brambles who shaved his head and applied self tanner. Kinda like the lake chelan thread where we had a giant tourist visiting the evacuated area wearing a full body rain suit with an attractive dark brown color in the sweltering heat waiting for the fire to come. It could happen...


Do you have higher resolution versions of the sequence? From what I am seeing by blowing these frames up and watching frame by frame, the head of the lighter figure is not visible or is dark and blends in, but I can't see it, the arms turn green as they blend into the bushes and stretch and shrink as they cross foliage, the shadows among the foliage change shape constantly, it's basically a bunch of blobs that are only recognizable as a figure behind bushes and trees because it's animated. Basic characteristics of a low res non-stabilized video stabilized, everything's moving and measurements are not reliable.

"Looks like he's running like a white boy."
sosha
QUOTE(moregon @ Nov 15 2007, 07:22 PM) *
Apeman years ago I took a trip with two of my younger brothers down to Florida taking in many of the major sites including Disney World, The Coral Castle, Key West, and a trip into the Everglades. Along the way we stopped at one of those "Roadside Attractions that had caged and/or chained animals. About the saddest thing I saw down there was at that attraction where they had a Mandrill in a box not much larger than itself. You could buy this biscuit shaped treats to feed them and when I reached towards him to hand him the treat he nearly ripped my hand off trying to get it. But what really disturbed me as I stood and watched him for a while is while sitting there he kept staring at his right hand, then would slap himself in the head, grab his right hand with his left and start biting on the right hand. My personal feeling was this Mandrill had been confined to that cage for far too long. Since then I've never visited another of those attractions that featured live animals confined in those manners.




Primates that are isolated and stressed will often self mutilate. They have no place to channel their frustration and anger and so they direct it to something they can attack...which is often their own limbs. I knew a primate that if she was made at me or upset about something...she knew she could not hurt me and she didn't want to hurt me, but she was upset and wanted to take it out on something so she would bite her wrist and then stare at it like the wrist was the problem....and yes it is usually misplaced aggression and it is from being in a cage for too long...captivity is not often kind to wild animals.
WmRoy
QUOTE(FredSneakers/David @ Nov 17 2007, 11:39 PM) *
The figure in this footage certainly is not walking on a flat surface, and the angle of his arms presumably reflects his balance. Though his arms look awkward, he is in an awkward situation.


We'll have to agree to disagree, I''ve taken alot of Big Dudes out hunting in rough terrain, and again I've not seen them hold their arms out at this extreme of an angle to maintain their balance.

Now the thing in the video, if it's human maybe 'higher' than a kite and that could result in it or him holding it's arms so oddly.......... but I'm still not ready to throw this one out.

I'm agreeing with Moregon, we may actually be seeing a cover up here. And man that pains me to say, because I hate conspiracy theories............. but this one smells fishy to me.
MYM
Remember when that wacky "sighting" took place a bit ago in Colorado I think which was a way to halt development of some property?

Well to connect soem dots in my circuitous thinking I remember eeing a show on Nat'l Geographic about urban encroachment in the Everglades and other Florida watershed.

The value of the land down there, esp given it's swampy nature, is crazy apparently and driven by snow birds looking to escape winter. i would imagine an undiscovered hominid luring in the shade of mangroves and palms and such would really throw a wrench into a lot of pocketbooks down there.
WmRoy
Could be, if it's a man he was trying to act more 'ape' like I would say. That means it was meant as a hoax, not an interrupted what ever.............. wink.gif
Morgoth
QUOTE(wolftrax @ Nov 17 2007, 10:44 PM) *
Do you have higher resolution versions of the sequence?


No but the photographer does...
cryptidon
Member for over a year, and that is the first video he chose to put up ... that's interesting.

Given the appearance of the terrain, and the videographers comment about mosquitoes - Lover's Caught On Tape seems a bit of a stretch. Why not stay put and pull your clothes on?
Hopefully someone can get a complete report and we can poke it with a stick some more.

Are we to understand that this vid was taken in the same area as the big squirrel?
hopeful
Cryptidon, I thought this was the big squirell. scratchhead.gif (jk)
Saskeptic
QUOTE(WmRoy @ Nov 18 2007, 07:42 AM) *
We'll have to agree to disagree, I''ve taken alot of Big Dudes out hunting in rough terrain, and again I've not seen them hold their arms out at this extreme of an angle to maintain their balance.


How 'bout a naked dude caught naked and off guard trying to pick his way through saw palmetto? I don't see anything that establishes extreme size, hairy body, or unusually long arms in this video.

Look, people are naked and outside all the time. As an avid birder, I've stumbled on people thusly engaged twice, and I've heard many such stories from my birdwatching cronies. And (parents cover your children's eyes), Mrs. Saskeptic and I were once discovered in an (ahem) compromised position in what we thought was a remote, wooded location.
Drew
Just stay still dear...

Oh my god he's got a camera!

Run!
hopeful
Saskeptic, bigeye.gif ... rofl02.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif ... I can't breathe ... I can't breathe ... rofl02.gif
WmRoy
QUOTE(Saskeptic @ Nov 19 2007, 02:41 PM) *
How 'bout a naked dude caught naked and off guard trying to pick his way through saw palmetto?


Well, I think I'd have my arms rather close.... whistling.gif ....... in order to protect certain items...... whistling.gif ....... rather than waving out extra, extra wide........... rolleyes2.gif
cryptidon
QUOTE(Drew @ Nov 19 2007, 03:48 PM) *
Just stay still dear...

Oh my god he's got a camera!

Run!


That is friggin funny.

*Note to self, try to interest spouse in taking up 'birding'.
wolftrax
QUOTE(WmRoy @ Nov 18 2007, 08:42 AM) *
We'll have to agree to disagree, I''ve taken alot of Big Dudes out hunting in rough terrain, and again I've not seen them hold their arms out at this extreme of an angle to maintain their balance.

Now the thing in the video, if it's human maybe 'higher' than a kite and that could result in it or him holding it's arms so oddly.......... but I'm still not ready to throw this one out.

I'm agreeing with Moregon, we may actually be seeing a cover up here. And man that pains me to say, because I hate conspiracy theories............. but this one smells fishy to me.
JayleeD
Lord, how did I mis THIS thread? scratchhead.gif


That's a naked dude and his lady trying to get away from some prying eyes and the camera they are carrying. Looks to me like a little "afternoon delight" that got interrupted. Over the years, I've walked up on 3 different couples doing the "hibbity-dibbity". Two couples ran, dragging their clothes behind them and the third couple, well let's just say they were partially 'immersed' in water and couldn't make a quick exit. teehee.gif
dug-mac
Maybe it's two Sasquatch that got caught fornicating - you know these things have got to multiply somehow...... new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
WmRoy
Well Wolftrax I could have gone along time without that visual.

I see what you're getting at with a couple of the dudes arms........... perhaps that's a reaction to freezing your nano's off since that's obviously a photo of a group of winter skinny-dippers. Raising one's hands up to avoid contact with the icy water is I would think a natural response.

I'm not 100% convinced that a photo of icy water skinny-dippers relates to a hot weather dry land nude in the brush........ I'm still thinking a dude would rather 'cup' his treasure than let it drag through the brush...... faint.gif

But if Jaylee say's it's a nude dude, I'll just have to take her word for it......... whistling.gif evillaugh.gif coverlaugh.gif

One thinks for sure, it ain't no stinking squirrel.......... wink05.gif
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