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micahn
A lot of people including myself seem to feel that some of the sightings in parts of Russia and close by areas could be Neanderthal related. This story helps that a little as bones have been found much farther east then they thought they lived.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071001/sc_nm/...st9z5smEywPLBIF



By Will Dunham Mon Oct 1, 5:12 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Neanderthals, the stocky kin of modern humans, were far more widespread geographically than previously thought, with some trekking into southern Siberia before vanishing about 30,000 years ago, scientists said on Monday.
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Researchers led by Svante Paabo of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany, found that Neanderthals spread 1,250 miles further east than scientists had commonly believed.

The scientists used genetic tests to determine that three fragmentary bones previously found in the Altai region of southern Siberia were indeed those of a Neanderthal. They also confirmed that a child's skeletal remains from Teshik-Tash in the Central Asian nation of Uzbekistan were from a Neanderthal.

Scientists previously had established that Neanderthals lived in Europe, the Middle East and parts of Asia before their disappearance, perhaps after some type of competition with modern humans who had migrated out of Africa.

"Intriguingly, their presence in southern Siberia raises the possibility that they may have been present even farther to the east, in Mongolia and China," the researchers wrote in the journal Nature.

Since the discovery in the 19th century of Neanderthal remains in the Neander Valley near Dusseldorf, Germany, scientists have struggled to understand just who were these stockily built archaic humans and why did they die off.

Scientists also are aiming to clarify the evolutionary relationship between modern humans, who left Africa and quickly spread around the world starting roughly 100,000 years ago, and Neanderthals.

"They are our closest relatives," Paabo said in a telephone interview. "If you saw one in the street, she or he would strike you as very robust and muscular, with a big brow ridge and bigger musculature. But they had, for example, just as big a brain as we have."

Traits typical of Neanderthals appear in remains dating from 400,000 years ago, and Neanderthals disappeared about 30,000 years ago, the researchers said.

Paabo, a leader in the field of ancient DNA research, also is instrumental in an effort launched last year to complete a first draft of the Neanderthal genome.

The fact that their geographic range was even bigger than previously thought makes their disappearance all the more mysterious, Paabo said.
DavSquatch
QUOTE(micahn @ Oct 5 2007, 10:45 AM) *
A lot of people including myself seem to feel that some of the sightings in parts of Russia and close by areas could be Neanderthal related. This story helps that a little as bones have been found much farther east then they thought they lived.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071001/sc_nm/...st9z5smEywPLBIF
By Will Dunham Mon Oct 1, 5:12 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Neanderthals, the stocky kin of modern humans, were far more widespread geographically than previously thought, with some trekking into southern Siberia before vanishing about 30,000 years ago, scientists said on Monday.



I agree Micahn, for more proof one simply has to look at the Bulgarian wieght lifters from the 70's.

dav
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey michan wow very inportant informative new article about neanderthals its very interesting. good afternoon bill green smile.gif
dogu4
Great article and interesting to see that areas so remote from the mainstream fossil hunting areas (and human desnity) are finding results that do make a lot of sense based on how one would have to imagine a smart free roaming hominid might spread in search of abundant prey. Will there be a time when we find a homind fossil in Beringia? I wonder what the dominant landscape was during that period 28Kya.

Also, I'm always struck by the assertion that if one were dressed in modern clothes they would look enough like us to pass in public...in the recreations we use biometrics from humans over the neanderthal skulls. Gotta wonder what it would look like if intelligent orangutans were using their biometrics and understanding of hair patterns, skin colors, etc. Yeah, I know we're closer to them but it seems like it's a bit biased and speculative.
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