Post Sept.29,2007 ....one frame of film by Austin McGee and Lindsey Lemmon ,Las Vegas, New Mexico.....blurry blobsquatch.....maybe film can be enhanced.....

A link would help

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...c=20488&hl=

Isn't this the 2 Chattanooga Men Say They May Have Landed "Bigfoot" story?

hey this is Austin McGee. i just read the forum and i wanted to apologize to those i offended for my holy jeans and ball cap. i was working that day when the news reporter came to interview us, if i had known i would have dressed more appropiately. although if you could see the 4500 sq foot historical home behind us thats the real beauty of the pic lol. as for the video it should be copy written by the end of next week then were having it analyzed glad to see yall interested.

Hello Austin, welcome to the forum.

I was wondering, did you have any interest in the Bigfoot phenomenon before you shot this footage?

When you saw the footage for the first time, did you initially think "Bigfoot", or did you feel it could have been something more mundane?

Who is analyzing the film?

Edit to add...........I wouldn't worry about offending anyone with your holy jeans and ball cap. I'm a home improvement contractor myself and I certainly don't show up to the job site in a G. Armani suit.

I was actually filming the landscape for my family back home. When we watched it, my sister is the one who noticed it in the scenery. And no, to answer your question, I was not interested in BF before this...never thought about him. Seeing it for the first time, it was the only thing that crossed my mind. Thanks for understanding about the pants and being at work, we restore historical homes. And, just to set it straight, Lindsey is not a Discovery channel photographer, we were to going to Vegas for "Pinks All Out" race...the camera is the one my mom let me borrow for the trip.

Have you decided who it will be to analyze the film?

And the million dollar question, why the copy right legalities?

yes we do have someone to analyze it but i dont feel comfortable disclosing that information till i talk to my partner and im having it copy written for the films protection to ensure that no one else takes claim for it. this is the first time i have ever done anything like this. to be honest im walking on ice

Fair enough.

Two more quick questions, sorry if I make it feel like your on the hot seat.

Do you remember how fast the car was going when you shot the footage?

How long is the object you believe to be Bigfoot actually in view in the video?

its long enough to see it take a few steps and we were going approximately 65 mph and its no problem with your questions just dont get upset if i cant answer all of them lol

The video was shot from a vehicle traveling at 65 miles per hour and the object in question is in view for just a few steps, yet, you feel this evidence is good enough to not only make you feel it is definitely a Bigfoot, but so much so that there is a need to copyright the footage?

most definitely

Any plans on how and when this video will be available for the public to view once the copyright is in place?

Welcome Austin,

I'm sure that I speak for many here when I say we are waiting at the edge of our seats..........

Please let this be worthy.............

I hope the mother-ship Biscardi didn't beam him up.

hey ecwool & everyone im realy looking forward to that new filmfootage to finaly to be released the public etc in upcomeing months, hey austinM so did you find any footprints or other sasquatch related evidence at the filmfootage location to take photos . thanks again bill

I really don't understand why people in Austin's position say they are 'waiting' for copyright. The US Government will register the works on the day it receives them (along with a $45 payment), so provided you sent the video copy by registered mail, it is already registered. It takes around 4 months to receive a certificate, but that doesn't mean it isn't registered.

It is worth mentioning that all you are registering is a 'claim' of copyright - it doesn't necessarily mean that you own the copyright - someone else can still claim copyright of that material.

If you took the video, then you already own the copyright - waiting for 'registration' doesn't make a jot of difference, so your claim that you are waiting for copyright is completely bogus.

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ45.html

this is y i didnt wnat to get involved in this till the video was already realeased, but Bill i will keep you informed on what happens and the rest of yall, ill be back after the video is copy written and out to the public and one more thing. i am not holding out for money but waiting on authenticity of the video so i wont let people like yall down

Hey Austin,
Heres some more info for you on copyright. Taken from the U.S. site on copyright law.

"Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created."

"No publication or registration or other action in the copyright office is required to secure copyright."

"The use of a copyright notice is no longer required under U.S. law"

"The fair use of a copyrighted work, for purposes such as criticism or comment, is not an infringement."

Copyright Registration info.

Allowing us to view and discuss your video and formulate our own opinions as to its authenticity is not an infringement on your copyright to the video.

Who's yall ???

Sorry couldn't resist, welcome to the site Austin, i'm looking forward to seeing it & i hope you're as sincere as you seem but don't be afraid to ask these Guys question ( maybe PM them if you feel more comfortable ) with regards to the Copyright thing.

Austin:


If you are who you say you are, and if you have what you say you have (big ifs to some of us here) and you have never thought about BF until this happened, I would say you have a lot of catching up to do.

Assuming the best, and that you are who you say you are and you have what you say you have, then I would venture a guess that you want to figure out if you have the equivalent of Barry Bond's last home run ball, etc., how to authenticate it, and how to benefit from your good luck.

Many folks on this forum are completely convinced that BF exists and others are complete skeptics. Those of us who are almost convinced BF exists are waiting for physical evidence, which by the way some of us expect to surface soon. The BF search is concentrating and getting better every day, aided by the web and high technology, and my personal opion is that it is only a matter of time until we have proof (how long? anyone's guess). Although you do not claim to have physical evidence, folks on this forum are also intensely interested in new images, as is, I would say based on the flap over the recent Manitoba images, the general public.

The problem with eye witness reports, images and sound recordings is that they can all be easily hoaxed. There is reason to believe that the subject of BF attracts lots of hoaxers. You for example could even be a hoaxer impersonating the person who took the purported video which no-one here even yet knows exists and may itself be a hoax. Why do hoaxers do this? Who knows? fraud for gain? mental pathology? In any event, because of the hoaxer element which is very real and is like a constantly present and evolving virus infecting the general BF inquiry and search, many people on this board are short on patience with people like you. At any rate if you stay on this web site for long I predict you cannot help but become offended because some people on this board will really grind you with cross examination.

You are right to concentrate on authentication of the video. I know what I would do to try authenticate it, but I understand you want to figure that out for yourself. You should also recognize that it may not be possible to authenticate, in which case there will still be interest in the image, but alas, no cigar. Also, while some of the copyright advice here may be correct or partly correct insofar as it goes, you obviously cannot rely on anything here and should talk to a lawyer who specializes in intellectual property, and maybe an entertainment lawyer who can help you figure out how best to exploit what you have.

Speaking for myself, I don't care what you get for your Barry Bond's ball. I just want you to figure it out soon so I can see your stuff.

Thanks and good luck,

LL

Good post LL, Austin take note..

Lets not forget that this video is Austin's to do whatever he wants with, and he shouldn't be pressured in any way to showing it to the likes of us.

All I'm saying is that I'm really fed up of this 'waiting for copyright' crap that is trotted out by people who think that I'm too stupid to understand the real process of registering a copyright claim.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling that the best part of this video has already been seen.

Well, if I had such a video............... I'd be working on making a deal with the Discover or Animal Planet or something...... I'd likely try to have this in place before I ever leaked word that I even had such a video.

Of course, the problem is that these folks likely get barraged daily with such things............ and they will not talk to individuals, so you have to go through a production company or an agent.

Sure - as I said, Austin can't be criticised for doing what he thinks is the best thing to do with the video - analysing, production etc - if he can sell the damn thing, then that is his perogative. No one on this forum has a right to see it. We shouldn't forget that.

I agree with that Paul. I don't think a single one of us has the right to see it. I also agree with what you said about some of us understanding how copyright works, it's been explained in detail enough on this forum.

I guess the one problem I have with it at this point is that of expectation, It's getting built up once again as more than it will likely be, or of a value that won't be attributable to it from further scrutiny.

From what I can see in " teaser frame" I'm again not holding out much hope for this being anything more than an unidentifiable blob in the middle of nowhere that could be nearly anything. There's also the other argument of the past, ( which I think you kinda brought up) and thats the one of hiding behind copyright as a means of protection, even though what 's being protected isn't worth the $45 that it would cost to certify it in the first place.

Of course I may just be getting more cynical regarding this kind of stuff ( again and again) in my old age.

I don't know if that's exactly true, I mean I know if he put it on youtube it would lose all rights to it, how would posting it on BFF not be any different?

From link I posted earlier,
"Copyright is secured automatically when the work is created."

From title 17, chapter 1, section 107, of U.S. copyright code,

"The fair use of copyright work, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."

Keep in mind that the BFF is run as a non-profit driven organization.

Edit for clarity

The BFF may not be making a profit but that doesn't make it a non-profit.

I was under the impression that Brian paid the bills to run the forum out of pocket and/or from the occasional member donation.

If I'm correct, then how does this equate to profit making?
It either makes a profit or it doesn't, how is there an in between?

The in-between as you call it is when an organisation is registered as a non-profit organisation

BFF isn't even an organisation, just a collection of random electrons that come together on your computer screen and paid for by Brian - you could call is a 'negative profit entity' if you prefer

Smart man

And the clothes don't bother me.....I've heard and seen plenty of 'suits' that didn't know their ass from a hole in the ground.....

Leave it to somebody to bust on the way the guy is dressed

OK. I'll meet you guys half way.
Hows about 'de-facto non-profit organization.' http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=851

Honestly, in a court room, the term "negative profit entity" would have the judge in stitches.

( No offense boss.)

As mkainni pointed out with regard to copyright law: as a photographer, film maker, and publisher, I can tell you that the moment that you hit the shutter on your camera, your photo is copyrighted. Registering a photograph or video clip with the U.S. Copyright Office only insures that you will have a better case in court in case of copyright infringment.

(My emphasis)

BTW, Brian, THANK YOU!!

i wonder whatever became of this video?

Maybe since it is taking so long for release it is the real thing.

<bump> anyone heard anything?

Another dead end road?

Still no news ?? Maybe Austin's Copyright Certificates got lost by the US Postal Service..