I have spent a lot of time lately on the many Bigfoot websites. In fact I've burned up a lot of hours reading the encounters and sightings.

I would like to add a little more information on one of the many sighting that I have read about that is from the south east Texas area around the Sam Houston National Forrest.

I am not sure which data base this sighting was recorded on and I am not going to take the time to go back and try to find it. I sure some of you on here are familiar with the report, but for those that are not it goes something like this. The young man making the report is a student at Texas A&M at College station. He works part time on his days out of school in Conroe. In order to get to his job on time, he travels an area of back roads in through the Sam Houston National Forrest in the early morning hours before daylight.

On the day of his encounter, he was making one of these early morning trips. He states that as he crossed Lake Conroe at the FM 1375 bridge he had to stop to take a leak. While doing his business at the edge of the highway he encountered a Bigfoot in the dark that proceeded to walk across the road in front of an on coming truck and in front of the head lights of his own truck.

I had hunted this area of the Sam Houston National Forrest a year before I read of this sighting. From the FM 1375 bridge I entered the forrest on the north side of FM 1375 approximately two to three hundred yards east of the bridge. I proceeded to hunt the area to the north of the road most of the morning. All morning I had an uneasy feeling about the area, something just didn't seem right about the area. I put it off to my having not hunted in the forrest since I was a small child. I spent most of my life hunting the open desert country of west Texas and southeast New Mexico. I hadn't hunted in a timbered area since I was a small child in southeast Oklahoma. This area of the forrest just seemed to quiet and subdued to me. As I completed the circle back to my truck on that first trip, I was about fifty yards inside the tree line from FM 1375 and a little closer to the bridge when I came up on an old tent. The tent had obviously been left up but blown down at sometime in the past. In the area around the tent there were some holes that someone had been digging. The holes were all about four feet by four feet and about three feet deep. The real oddity of the situation hit me when I realized not only had the tent been abandoned but so had a couple of ice chests with things still in them, and numerous odds and ends that made up the camp were scattered around nearby. It looked like who ever had been there had lit out like their ass was on fire and left everything behind. At the time, I thought it might have been someone cooking up meth or something in the NF or maybe taking fish illegally from Lake Conroe. When I read the Bigfoot report about six months later I begin to wonder if those folks leaving in such a hurry had something to do with the hairy man.

I have taken my wife and youngest son back to the area and the camp was just as I found it that day. They were not happy to be in the area either. I went back at a later date hunting and spooked something large in the underbrush in that could have been a deer or a hog. A few minutes after I spooked the animal something started screaming like a bird/squirrel from across a small creek that runs through the area to the north of the tent site. I could never spot the animal doing the screaming.
If any of you live in this area of Texas it might be worth your time to have a look at this area.

Choctaw

Odd indeed!

Did you find any evidence like stacked rocks or piles that looked sorted near the pits? I ask because I came upon an old archaeological dig once and your description sounded familiar. After looking around a bit I found stacks of flint rocks here and there. After looking more I found the wire sifting trays they used as well. Seemed quite out of place there in the middle of the woods.

How near the bridge or water was this? Could a flood threat have scared them off?

Just curious. It does seem pretty odd. But then people can do weird crap some times.

Pappy,

This area of the country has very few rocks. The area of the camp site was mostly sand. The dirt from the holes was piled around the holes. It almost looked like some one was digging themselves fox holes. I had given the thought of some kind of archaelogical dig or possibly someone looking for minerals, but I didn't find screens or any other device to sift sand, but to tell the truth I didn't hang around to long either time I went to the site. It just doesn't feel right to me.

The site is about two hundred yards up a hill above the bridge and lake. It would never flood even in extreme conditions.

Choctaw

I live not 5 miles from the very spot that the young man was scared away from. I have a plaster cast of a footprint from that same national forest and i have been hiking in there....The TBRC did a hunt at the end of 1375 in the Little lake creek scenic area....so i KNOW what you are talking about and honestly believe that the big guy is in there, I also drive through that forest every now and then and something is definately NOT right in there, I can't put my finger on it, but I know he's in there!

Well you might see if there are any missing person reports from the area. Maybe the big guy got the camper. The holes are a mystery.

Are you familiar with the spot he is talking about?

Ok, thanks for the info. Just tossing out possibilities. Even if it had been a dig it wouldn't explain why they left the camp like that.

Can't blame you for not hanging around. When I'm alone and I get those bad vibes in an area I don't hang out either.

Yes WmRoy I am familiar with it and I think I know exactly where he is talking about, after I read about the experience that the college student had, my son and I crossed the road and went up the same hill that he is describing, this was a few years ago.

That's what I was thinking. I would have called the cops/rangers straight away.

You can check the investigations out here:

http://www.texasbigfoot.com/research.html

I found a camp setup just like that when I was patrolling some islands. The little bit of evidence I found eventually showed everything was stolen and when it came time to leave they just left everything there...coolers, a bit of food, the works. The holes you found could possibly be for pot plants. They dig them deep to mix in manure and such if the soil is poor. At least around here they'll do that. The pros don't do it that way but teenagers will. I also find the bad feelings one gets in the bush is because you are constantly thinking about bf and/or things that may hurt you. Generally if your mind is clear of such things you won't get that feeling. Just my take.

t.

I don't agree with you there but we all have our own take on things. I don't dwell on BF or being attacked constantly. The few times I did have trouble or a sighting are so rare that it would be pointless to dwell on it. If you have had some type of encounter I think you tend to pay more attention your surroundings from that point on. I don't believe there's been an increase in the number of times I get "bad vibes" since my sightings or the other encounters I've had.

I don't know exactly what the bad vibes are. Instinct, general awareness or some subconscious trigger at work. I'm not sure. It's pretty rare that I get that feeling but I do pay attention to it. I'm convinced that it's kept me out of harms way.

Where's the BEEF!? I mean, where's the Bigfoot!? I see nothing in the 1st 'encounter' that says B/F. They get an uneasy feeling and automatically assume it's a B/F!?! I don't understand that at all, pretty big assumption. False advertising in my book. How can an Org. write that up as an encounter in their files, beats the jnugle outta me.

Plenty of people have had these feelings in encounters or possible encounters, but there was other evidence involved. I don't discount intuitive feelings, as a matter of fact the opposite. I encourage paying attention to them. However, just because you get a bad feeling and happen to be in the woods, doesn't mean a B/F is nearby.

colstonewall1, could you be more specific as to what you mean? The first report the witness does discuss "While doing his business at the edge of the highway he encountered a Bigfoot in the dark that proceeded to walk across the road in front of an on coming truck and in front of the head lights of his own truck." So, that has more to do with a sighting of an unknown than just a simple creepy feeling.

The person who started this thread only discusses a "creepy feeling". I think if your a proponent of infrasound, then that "creepy" feeling does kinda come into play - but for the record I need more info on infrasound.

Well, the guy was describing an odd scene in an area that has had BF reports. I didn't read more into it than that. The abandoned camp was weird and had odd features as well. Maybe it was somehow BF related but we'll probably never know what went on there. Probably was something as simple as stolen gear left by thieves.

Maybe the bad feelings were triggered by this creepy scene. I get that around some of the old abandoned farms in the area. They just seem creepy for some reason. Maybe it was the time I heard the deer on the upper floor. Once they heard us they came rushing down the stairs and out the door. Freaked me out at the time. You just never know what's taken up residence in those places.



Personally, I never had those bad vibes with BF sightings or while following tracks I think were left by BF and I don't automatically start thinking BF when I get them. I tend to suspect humans up to no good first. Though cougars, bear and those damn panthers are suspect as well. Those animals are rare here but pass through from time to time. Humans are all too common though.

Most often I just get a feeling that things aren't quite right here and start paying far more attention to my surroundings. Which is what I'd urge others to do.

King / georgerm,

I didn't follow up on finding the abandoned camp with anyone. The site looked to be a year or two old at the time. I had not read of the Bigfoot encounter nearby at that time. I thought it was just what it appeared to be an abandoned camp or drug site. Although it gave me the creeps, I saw no reason to go calling the cops. If I knew a cop in this area I would probably ask him about the area, but I am not a local to the Conroe or Houston area. I moved here in 2004. The Sam Houston National Forrest was just a place with cheap access to hunting.

Terry,

I have to agree with your assessment of people setting themselves up for the bad feelings after thinking / reading of BF. Before I started reading the encounters from the web, I would stay in the forrest hunting right up to dark and walk out in the dark. It is easy to let the old imagination run wild in the woods and the dark. I no longer stay in there until after sun down. But at the time I was getting those feelings about the area around the campsite, I hadn't been reading anything on Bigfoot. BF was the furthest thing from my mind. I was deer hunting by still hunting the area to the north of the camp.

I didn't get into reading the Bigfoot sightings until after two other incidents in the SHNF that occured the year after I found the camp site. I have written a piece on those two incidents under the item on here called "A Night in Fouke".

Colonel you asked " where is the beef?" it is not here my post. Some folks may have contacted all the Bigfoot organizations with the desire to document this incident / area, I did not. I don't think these type items should be logged, I only threw it out here for discussion as it relates to the sighting by the young college fellow. I have read far to many reports on all the Bigfoot / Sasquatch websites that I feel should not be posted. Many of those reports take away from the real issue of is there something out there or not. Although, I have heard some strange noises, seen some strange tree breaks, and had some forboding feelings doesn't prove a thing. I will firmly believe when I eyes tell me in no uncertain terms the being in front of me is a 'Bigfoot', and to be honest I am not in any form or fashion going to try to hasten that day's coming. I like to hunt with a bow and the thought that something eight or nine feet tall and intelligent might be following me around the woods doesnt' make the bow hunting experience all that pleasant.

JayleeD, thanks for the link to the research outing. I had read the first of the report, I had not seen the second one. I am fairly certain that the area they were searching is west of Lake Conroe. The area of the camp is a couple hundred yards off the east side of Lake Conroe. The other two incidents I referred to above were vocalizations, and they took place on the west side of Lake Conroe at the far western edge of the Sam Houston National Forrest.

Choctaw

Back in Feb of the year(2007) my boys and i went backpacking into what I think is called Lost Lake Creek Wilderness in Sam Houston National Park. I have always been interested in the subject of bigfoot, and knew there had been sightings in that area. I never expected to have any type of experience due to the
odds. My boys are interested in the subject as well. Right after dusk we started hearing whoops that sounded identical to recordings I've heard of supposed
bigfoot whoops. They were close, and there were at least two of them. Now, even though I've always believed there was a creature, after hearing these
whoops, I still questions if there is anything else that can make them. Were they broadcasts from researchers. I dont' know, but I can say that these sounds went
literally all night long. We are going to go back there, maybe with a couple of friends, and camp out in the exact same location when it cools down maybe in September. I'm curious if we will hear them again. I did notice there was an A&M van parked at the trail head, but we didn't run into anyone. I still wondered if
they might have been doing some type of investigation. I called A&M, and they said there were no investigations going on from the University. Anyway, just wondering if anyone has had similar experiences?

Todd, are you talking about "Little Lake Creek" wilderness area? There HAVE been investigations in that part of the SHNF but not in Feb of 2007, they were done ealier than that. Coincidently, it is in that general area that I obtained my plaster cast of a footprint prior to 2007.

hey everyone good afternoon wow this is a very interesting new thread about sasquatch sightings etc. i realy like the above replys & opinions as well. thanks bill green

Hi Ozzy, Yes, that was the area..When did you make the cast?.. The area that we camped was not far past a swampy area where they are building a
new boardwalk that crosses the swamp. Are you familiar with that part?.. We camped very close to there maybe a 100 yards off the trail.

Has there been any newer encounters in the Sam Houston National Forest?

Choctaw,

While I'm not familiar with the particular area you are talking about, an old friend of mine had an encounter up while camping up in Wisconsin that produced something somewhat similar.

He and his girlfriend (along with he children) went camping for a few days in a nice little secluded place not too far from Marshfield. The way he told it, it was around one in the morning when the kids came ot their tent and woke them up because they'd be hearing a strange whooping noise. He stepped outside and heard the same odd noise. The sound went on for a while while he scanned the edge of the clearing they were camped at whith his flashlight. He spotted something (he couldn't make out what it was, but says it was definately some sort of mass). Almost as soon as he shined the light on said mass, the sound stopped. He figured it was just an odd coincidence and he was just looking at a stump or shadows or something. So, he turned around and headed back into the tent with his girlfriend and the kids. A short time later, the same noise started up again, this time though, it seemed a bit closer than before. He flicked the flashlight back on and started back outside. As soon as he got out of the tent the sounds stopped and was replaced by some rustling coming from the edge of the clearing. By that time the kids were pretty freaked out and begging to leave the woods. His girlfriend got a bit frightened as well and wanted to leave, so they hopped on the ATVs, headed down the small trail they'd come up, and back into the car. He was going to go back and pack up the camping gear and all that while they waited in the car, but they didn't want him going back in the woods alone. So, he just left everything set up and decided to come back in the morning. They spent the night at a friends cabin which was about twenty minutes from their campsite. In the morning, they went back to get their stuff and discovered that both tents had been rummaged through (one of which was ripped from it's stakes). The weirdest thing (and what really relates to your story) was that they found there to be about three rather good sized holes dug in the ground between where the two tents had been. Each hole was about two and a half feet deep and a little under two feet wide. They didn't know what to make of the holes at all and really didn't stick around to investigate because (as he says) it felt like something was watching them as they gathered their things.

He's always been a firm bisbeliever when it comes to our large hairy friend and hasn't ever shared the story with anyone beside myself (mainly because he knew I was into BF and thought I might get a kick out of such an odd story). He insist that it was just a bear or someone playing a prank... I'm not so sure.

I'm from Montgomery and spend quite a bit of time at Stubblefield and cruising the forest service roads. The spot were he had his close encounter was not more than a mile from the Cagle recreation area. Not much there accept the boat ramp that TPW runs and then the youth camp a couple of miles to the northeast. If any of you guys in the area want to head up there and check it let me know.

Bigtex is in the area I think....You should hook up with him.....

I will see what I can do, thanks : )

Since I live about 20 minutes from this location by water I took my hovercraft out there this afternoon, took some pictures of the area and did some exploring. When I beached the boat I saw a dozen or so people swimming and fishing from the lakeshore. I walked upthe trail toward the spot were the sighting took place and noticed were already several cars parked on the shoulder of the road. There were several people fishing and a little way down the trail there were some kids swimming. Having read the report on the TBRC website i re-traced the young mans steps and I have to mention that at 5:30 in the morning this spot is not were you would prefer to come face-to-face with Big Whooly if you had your druthers. When the gentlemen got out to relieve himself he unwittingly went and stood in what is most likely the worse possible place to be with a Sas watching you. Basically the spot the man stood in put the sas with its back to the water and pretty much noplace else to go but past him in order to leave the area. The creature was blocked in to the north by the bridge and its embankment and to the west by the lake itself. It should also be noted that the place he stopped to urinate was 3 feet from a small slough full of sweet gum and pine trees. I am guessing the tree that the man mentions shaking was most likely ths small sweetgum since its closest to the path were he was taking his rest. I walked down the path to the south that leads to the recreation area and boat ramp a half mile away through the woods. The forestry service keeps most of the undergrowth here cleared away for campers, so it's basically mature hardwoods and pines that are left. While I was walking around I could smell the odor of bait shrimp heavyily from the fishing spots, as well as fish that had been gutted and scaled. All in all a pretty strong signal to the creature that dinner would be waiting for him after darkness fell and the poeple went home for the evening. I back-tracked to the highway and crossed the road were the creature retreated to. To the west there is a well worn path that leads from the shoulder of the road down to the waters edge. To the north there is anther path that leads several yards into the thicket then dead ends in a palmetto marsh. Very tough going for a human in there. It would be my guess that this is the path the creature took when it crossed the road after the encounter. I backtracked again and took the path to the west that lead down to the water. Allot of discarded bait-shrimp and fish leavings were there. I saw some people with a cast net out on the sandbar 100 yards to the Northeast, maybe a nice fishing spot foir a hungry Squatch as well. I folowed the path around the lakeshore and then not 6 feet from the waters edge hidden in the brush there was a hollowed out bedding area; possibly for deer or even our friend? It was well worn and strown with plastic bait containers and empty McDonalds bag which had been ripped open from the bottom. I continued along the path until it too merged into the marshes. No tracks were found although I did look for them. I think the weekend foot traffic may have obliterated anything that was there in the hard ground.
For those that dont know this area of Texas, the Sam Houston National Forest is 167K acres of protected wilderness. It is said to be one fo the most biologically diverse eco systems on the planet. There are many sections that are inaccesible to all but the most intrepid. Hence my building a hovercraft. This section of the lake eats regular boats for lunch.

Choc, The holes mentioned are indicative of artifact digging..tester holes for artifacts..NA often camped in sandy areas. Perhaps the campers were spooked? As far as uncomfy feeling..many can feel this when near NA sites for whatever reason?...Pure conjecture..My feeling is the bigfooty vibe is not always the case as much as the energy in the land and what is there left over from long ago..My one cent worth...Peace

I just logged for the 1st time in over a year and saw quite a few reply's since I posted in 2007. I have been back to the area where we heard the vocalizations in Lake Creek WIlderness. Unfortunately no encounters. I hope to go out a again soon. One thing I've noticed when hiing and backpacking that area, I don't see much wildlife. Haven't even seen deer. I know they are out there, and I've seen signs, I just haven't been lucky enough to see anything. Have any of you guys been back out there, or seen/heard anything?

I hike Little Lake Creek Wilderness all of the time. Usually only see deer very, very early in the morning in the hotter months. In cooler weather, you might spot one later in the day.

I was there a couple of weeks ago. Hiked a 9 mile trail. Temperature was 100 degrees with a heat index of 110. Around 85% humidity.

You really have to love getting into the woods to suffer that. Had a great time!

The Little Lake Creek Wilderness in particular and the Sam Houston National Forest in general is very spooky at night. I like spooky.