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gilbert
so what was this? i guess i missed the point. still interesting enough to watch though.
Paul1968UK
Nothing like a bit of self-promotion new_whistle.gif

I wouldn't have called this an interview - there is no interviewer, and no questions.
wudewasa
QUOTE(Paul1968UK @ Jun 18 2007, 03:32 AM) *
Nothing like a bit of self-promotion


Paul,

With all fairness, here is Stan's commentary from http://www.stancourtney.com

"The Interview
Many bigfoot researchers are leery of giving interviews to
the press. The main emphasis should be about the
undocumented upright walking North American primate not
about the researchers.

Search For Bigfoot - A Documentary

My eldest son is a pastor of a church in Columbia, Missouri.
He contacted my wife early in February about allowing a
couple of University of Missouri students to spend the night.
They were traveling to Bowling Green, Ohio for a church
conference and we were conveniently located halfway between
Ohio and Missouri. As an aside, he also mentioned that
Peggy was interested in interviewing me about my bigfoot
research for a class project. I reluctantly agreed, not
thinking much about it.

I was a little surprised when they arrived and she set up a
video-camera. She did an impromptu interview as I showed
her some of my footcasts and recording equipment. I took
them out sound-blasting later in the evening and did hear
and record some distant howls.

Two months later my son again contacted me and asked if I
would allow her to tag along in my research area to see what
I do when I am looking for bigfoot evidence. I again agreed
and met Peggy, a school friend of Peggy's, and my son and
his wife at the park.

We spent about an hour and a half walking through some
areas where I have found footprints and recorded several
vocalizations. I did ask if I could have a copy of the DVD
when she finished. She said of course.

Saturday I received my copy of the DVD. I was a little taken
aback and disappointed that the focus of the short
documentary was on the sincerity and saneness of me as a
researcher and not on the true subject which is bigfoot /
sasquatch."
Paul1968UK
That's exactly why I turned down what would have been a lucrative interview offer last year from a film company - I did some research on the production company, saw the sort of thing they produce, and decided that they were going to do a show about idiots who spend time and money chasing hairy creatures, rather than a serious documentary on Bigfoot. I guess the latter is more difficult for them - it would require some thinking.

As for Stan - surely he had some idea what was going on, or does he not talk to members of his family?
Morgoth
QUOTE(Paul1968UK @ Jun 18 2007, 09:35 AM) *
As for Stan - surely he had some idea what was going on, or does he not talk to members of his family?


I can't escape this link from Bitter Monk:

http://www.cryptozoology.com/forum/topic_v...&pid=484868
wudewasa
QUOTE(Paul1968UK @ Jun 18 2007, 10:35 AM) *
That's exactly why I turned down what would have been a lucrative interview offer last year from a film company - I did some research on the production company, saw the sort of thing they produce, and decided that they were going to do a show about idiots who spend time and money chasing hairy creatures, rather than a serious documentary on Bigfoot.


There seems to be a cynical reaction with mainstream media and bigfoot research. With the stunts that several "researchers" have pulled, I can understand why this is so.

Still, you could have provided some interesting anecdotes about the idiots that inhabit (and discredit) the bigfoot research field.

M*** M********* and T** B******* exposed!

Oh yeah Penn and Teller got them first.
Robert
I just watched the interview. Stan came off as a very down to earth typical midwestern guy with a great hobby. What really weakened the whole thing was the comments by the teenagers around him.

When the camera went from Stan to any one of them, they looked confused, embarassed, not sure whether to roll the eyes or smirk, or just keep quiet, so they just kept quiet and tried to have no expressions on their faces.

When they were commenting without Stan present they were smiling, chuckling, again not quite sure of themselves, but you could see that it was as if they were trying to "save face" if any of their sarcastic, cynical friends ever watched this little documentary.

I really felt kind of sorry for Stan. He comes across as very earnest.
tuffyy
I have had a few conversations with Stan before on the old chat room on this site.I can tell you he seems very down to earth and interested in finding out more about the mystery of these animals.I for one wont be bashing Mr.Courtney as he,like many of us is just another researcher exploring something none of us have a clue about,and we call ourselves researchers...
HarryHenderson
As I've declared before, my Bigfoot Researchers Ignorance Quotient (BRIQ) is high, and as such I've really no clue who Stan Courtney is, although I have read his name any numer of times here and there. Regardless, at almost exactly 6:00 mins. into "Stan's video", he purports that the sounds he's playing on his computer (at that moment) are 'Bigfoot'. Sorry Stan and/or anyone else, those sounds are of a DOG...aka Fido, Scruffy or Duke...or I'm a monkey's uncle. new_lmaosmiley.gif
Teresa
he'd be fulltimer here.
tuffyy
I would agree the sounds in the interview are not squatch to me either,but Stan is a guy who is trying just like the rest of us.I can see why some people who may have credible sightings,sounds etc are afraid to come to many forums.Being ridicouled is good but being called down just doesnt seem very ''co-operative'' to me. new_thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
colstonewall1
QUOTE(Robert @ Jun 18 2007, 01:25 PM) *
I just watched the interview. Stan came off as a very down to earth typical midwestern guy with a great hobby. What really weakened the whole thing was the comments by the teenagers around him.

When the camera went from Stan to any one of them, they looked confused, embarassed, not sure whether to roll the eyes or smirk, or just keep quiet, so they just kept quiet and tried to have no expressions on their faces.

When they were commenting without Stan present they were smiling, chuckling, again not quite sure of themselves, but you could see that it was as if they were trying to "save face" if any of their sarcastic, cynical friends ever watched this little documentary.

I really felt kind of sorry for Stan. He comes across as very earnest.


Agreed, Robert. new_thumbsupsmileyanim.gif
DarkRabbit
QUOTE(HarryHenderson @ Jun 18 2007, 06:55 PM) *
As I've declared before, my Bigfoot Researchers Ignorance Quotient (BRIQ) is high, and as such I've really no clue who Stan Courtney is, although I have read his name any numer of times here and there. Regardless, at almost exactly 6:00 mins. into "Stan's video", he purports that the sounds he's playing on his computer (at that moment) are 'Bigfoot'. Sorry Stan and/or anyone else, those sounds are of a DOG...aka Fido, Scruffy or Duke...or I'm a monkey's uncle. new_lmaosmiley.gif


I agree very much with Harry, but because of some interesting posts on the board this week, I have a caveat to disclose at the end of this post that I would not have considered prior.

I do believe Mr. Courtney is genuine in that he is serious in his study of BF and not looking for any personal aggrandizement from it. He's trying to spread the news. And, I truly admire his collection of wildlife sounds on his site, especially the Eastern Screech Owl which solved a four-decade-old mystery for my father and a two-decade old one for me.

I'm no expert either on nature sounds. However, in his collection of possible BF recordings, I have heard the same sounds or close approximations many times before without thinking of a strange creature bellowing them.

I hope Stan understands, and that being from or near my home state, he understands what my truly lenient "Show Me" attitude is all about. I don't need much to get me going actually, but there's more compelling sounds recorded that strike the chord in a person that makes a sound truly odd.

All due respect to Mr. Courtney, and I do hope he responds or at least nods in understanding at this viewpoint. I mean no disparagement toward him at all. He obviously gets out there in the bush and looks, listens, records, and tosses out to us what he thinks might be worth investigating - - which I highly regard about him.

Now my humble caveat to what I thought prior, and in part to Harry's post: A recording from a guest...

http://www.stancourtney.com/sounds/East-Ce...tter4-21-07.mp3

It's the subject of another recent thread, but the recording's got me wondering.

Also interesting:

http://www.stancourtney.com/sounds/3.20.2007q.mp3

I imagine a BF taking his pet coyote for a 3am walk. In all seriousness, (Maybe I am serious) the ya-volt? or ya-who? vocalization is peculiar. It's the very last vocalization heard in the recording. Sierra Sounds CD 2 immediately came to mind first time I heard it.

From Sierra Sounds CD 2 "Who-huh? ... Ibwana?"

"Ehhhhh... huh-hah huh!..."

I get a strange sensation when I can write letters together of animal calls and, when spoken, actually imitate "well" (to me) the sound I heard. ("Well" being the key word.) Trying to spell out an animal call and have the letters approximate a good imitation of the actual sound is hard, though not impossible. You can do the cheer, cheery, cheery call of a robin, for instance. But, in my book, it's not quite on par with the imitations one can do with Sierra Sounds, at least.

And, of course, naturally, that's all those sounds could be: human imitations. But, they often can be spelled, read, and imitated just from reading what's been written.

(Don't ask for a transcription, please?)

I've heard great critter callers, one who works for a certain state and appears every so often on a local TV program in Columbia, MO and at fairs making his calls. I don't know if those calls could be spelled, and imitated just by "reading" the calls if they were written for someone to read. Which again might explain BF calls...all human imitations...though I just can't go that far.

Take it for what it's worth. No Holy Grail here, but I thought my musings might be fun for discussing. sorry for rambling, but I hadn't thought about this before in quite the literary, or literal, light...

Insert smiley emoticon with a shotgun blasting away...or chucking tomatoes my way..

It's fun to speculate.

"Here, chicky, chicky, chicky..."

DR
JayleeD
QUOTE(DarkRabbit)
I do believe Mr. Courtney is genuine in that he is serious in his study of BF and not looking for any personal aggrandizement from it. He's trying to spread the news. And, I truly admire his collection of wildlife sounds on his site



I totally agree. I'm not sure that everything, or anything, that Stan has recorded is a bigfoot, but I admire him for getting out there and giving this subject some (lots of) time and effort. thumbup.gif

I do enjoy listening to what Stan has recorded and I salute the fact that he has openly shared it with the rest of us, no matter what may have actually made the sounds.
Teresa
ditto with my Arkansas cohort!
Blackdog
I've talked to Stan, although I'm sure he doesn't remember, and I thought he was very sincere but maybe a little too "enthusiastic". I don't think he would even disagree with that assessment.

I don't think he himself is doing any harm but I'm afraid he is being taken advantage of by some self promoting types.... That, I'm sure he'll disagree with.
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