hiker11
Jul 18 2007, 02:37 PM
Hi, I didnt come on here to put anyone down or talk about them, I came on to put the pic of a bigfoot bed and talk about beds, not talk about me, I tell the truth and I take bigfoot serious, also you said you didnt find anything new on this thread, Well you said you didnt know about bigfoot crapping in rivers, That sounds like something new, anyway the tracks are 16 in bigfoot tracks, and they went for along ways up the mountain side, with the big toe digging in the steep side for a better grip, I found a few of those beds with big tracks around them, I was hoping someone else would talk about the beds and what they thought of the bed, has anyone found more beds like this up in the mountains.
colstonewall1
Jul 18 2007, 02:42 PM
QUOTE(hiker11 @ Jul 18 2007, 02:09 PM)

There, Their, They're, You guys crack me up, Maby you will learn somthing new about bigfoot, if you pay attention and can read, I said 16 inch tracks not prints, You never heard of bigfoot crapping in rivers, were have you been, You seem to always try a twist things around on these forums, Like I said before on my Sighting, I have alot more that I have not said, or shown on here, I have already put pics, and pics of tracks, on these forums, more than most do. most just talk and thats all they do, And yes I have more pics of tracks in and around those beds, or I would not have mentioned it to begin with, You guys went from beds to poop, Whats next how bigfoot trims his nails in his bed, Some people know alot more about BF than there saying on here, And I am not the only one. who would belive you anyway.
There
You remind me of that episode of Seinfeld, where Jerry advises George to always leave them wanting more. That seems to be the main theme of people who claim to have had an encounter that no one believes. Always leave'm wanting more. (bolding is mine)
Nothing personal Hiker, but we've all heard these claims a 100 times before. And as Mike says, they never quite seem to pan out. If you did have an encounter, great, give us the facts, and facts only. And you might find people find your sighting credible.
Paul1968UK
Jul 18 2007, 02:53 PM
QUOTE(hiker11 @ Jul 18 2007, 09:37 PM)

Hi, I didnt come on here to put anyone down or talk about them, I came on to put the pic of a bigfoot bed and talk about beds, not talk about me, I tell the truth and I take bigfoot serious, also you said you didnt find anything new on this thread, Well you said you didnt know about bigfoot crapping in rivers, That sounds like something new, anyway the tracks are 16 in bigfoot tracks, and they went for along ways up the mountain side, with the big toe digging in the steep side for a better grip, I found a few of those beds with big tracks around them, I was hoping someone else would talk about the beds and what they thought of the bed, has anyone found more beds like this up in the mountains.
So how many individual prints in this track? One track or more? Over what distance was the track? What was the stride? Were they all uphill, or were some on the flat? If there were some on the flat, then what was the difference in size? They couldn't all be exactly the same size, since when walking or running uphill there is always a certain amount of skidding.
How close exactly to the "nests" were these tracks - if they were all 16", that would suggest one creature, so why more than one bed?
And once again, what evidence do you have that bigfoot either buries scat or flushes it down a river? And I mean evidence, not your word, but evidence - otherwise, it is speculation, nothing more.
Speculation is NOT the same as evidence.
Hairy Man
Jul 18 2007, 02:53 PM
QUOTE(MajDan @ Jun 12 2007, 05:31 PM)

Some of those logs look like they were cut with a saw a long time ago. Maybe they have saws? Or maybe they found them on the ground, you find them all the time around here. I'm still not convinced about the nests. I see similar 'structures' in the woods all the time that I just thought were natural.
I'm sorry that I missed this until now!
Yes, some of the branches had been cut with saws...but if you'll note from the article, I discussed that the landowner had done the work and placed the cut branches into a pile. Whomever built the nest pulled the limbs from the pile. Being an archaeologist, I can assure you that this formation could not be natural. The branches are woven into each other in a neat orderly way (not just jumbled sticks). I am making no claims on who constructed it, but someone did.
hiker11
Jul 18 2007, 03:34 PM
Well if I had more pics, more facts, It would go nowere just like this, No wonder nothing seems to pan out on here, we should be talking about beds, Thats what this thread is about not tracks, or encounters, That should be on another thread.
Paul1968UK
Jul 18 2007, 05:01 PM
But we aren't talking about 'beds', since there is no evidence as to what made these alleged beds (assuming that is what they are).
You are avoiding the question - what evidence do you have that bigfoot buries its scat or uses rivers and streams to poop? You claim you know it for a fact, so you must therefore have some concrete proof - I'd like to know what it is.
What do they use to bury the scat?
Come on Hiker - you made this claim, please don't try to change the subject. If you don't have evidence, then just say so and put me out of my misery.
hiker11
Jul 18 2007, 05:38 PM
Hi paul, thanks for making me laugh finally, With that put me out of my misery, I know what you mean, I never said I had evidence, I said trust me I know, I know this because I saw one taking a crap in the river, I thought it was a bear untill it walked away on two legs, I also talked to a old guy in the bush one day and we started talking about Sasquatch, he said back in 1966 up by pitt river he saw one bury its crap, by digging a hole about 1 ft deep and then covered it with twigs, He never told anyone untill later on in his life, I never reported the crapping in the river sighting, only the one last year of the big grey one. I have had 2 more sightings after that one last year, and after that scary growl I will never go back in there again.
Paul1968UK
Jul 19 2007, 01:52 AM
I give up
mike2k1
Jul 19 2007, 04:47 AM
QUOTE(hiker11 @ Jul 18 2007, 04:34 PM)

Well if I had more pics, more facts, It would go nowere just like this, No wonder nothing seems to pan out on here, we should be talking about beds, Thats what this thread is about not tracks, or encounters, That should be on another thread.
I'm confused....the thread titile is about teepee structures, buts beds were mentioned earlier in the thread in a post by Yowie, but was really taken off the topic
HERE!(post #33) and I'll quote:
QUOTE
Hi, Over the years I have seen some beds, but not the teepee type
So the thread was never really about beds but evolved to that point. As far as the track thing...guess who brought that up and made it part of the conversation
Mystery poster is(drum roll) Click Here!( thats post # 37).
yowiie
Jul 19 2007, 06:44 AM
I've been watching this thread and I'm quite interested in these teepee structures.
How the hell is anything going to be protected by these teepees, they are merely a few sticks that have fallen together, big deal, shoulodn't they have aroof or something similar to protect the dwellers.
AS for the beds that have been mentioned, these are nothing like we have in Oz
hiker11
Jul 19 2007, 12:02 PM
mike2k1, give it a break its not a soap opera, I mentioned beds because I said over the years I have not see the teepee type, thats why there is a pic of a bed and not the teepee type, I mentioned tracks because they are in and around the bed, and to also rule out deer or bear, Some people link the teepee type and beds together, or maby a giant mouse with 16 inch feet is playing a joke on me. Yowiie and Hairy man, were trying to keep it on topic, but you guys twist it all around.
Bitter Monk
Jul 19 2007, 12:38 PM
QUOTE(hiker11 @ Jul 19 2007, 02:02 PM)

Yowiie and Hairy man, were trying to keep it on topic, but you guys twist it all around.
I didn't realize the topic of this thread was belligerence and evasiveness in the face of questioning. I guess I should reread the thread title.
Hairy Man
Jul 19 2007, 01:45 PM
QUOTE(hiker11 @ Jul 19 2007, 11:02 AM)

Yowiie and Hairy man, were trying to keep it on topic, but you guys twist it all around.
Sorry...I thought we were talking about beds, I didn't notice the name of the thread.
So this is about teepee structures? Ok, I think it's all crap. How's that for getting back on topic?
mike2k1
Jul 19 2007, 04:29 PM
QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ Jul 19 2007, 01:38 PM)

I didn't realize the topic of this thread was belligerence and evasiveness in the face of questioning. I guess I should reread the thread title.
But ain't that always the case with stuff like this BM? You question someone and thats where it ends up.
Hiker11
QUOTE
mike2k1, give it a break its not a soap opera,
Nope...I'm not giving it a break. You are presenting something with out proof....
For example:
QUOTE
Hi, Over the years I have seen some beds, but not the teepee type, That would be to easy for us to find and there not that dumb, They dont want to leave any evidence like that, Here is one pic I took of a bed up in the mountains, and there was a few more the same in other valleys.
1: Once again how do you know these are sasquatch beds?
2: How do you know they hide their beds so they do not leave evidence?
QUOTE
I would rule out deer and bear, because there was no sign of there tracks or scat anywere around, I found big 16 inch tracks by two other beds like this.
1: You said you
would rule out deer or bear because of lack of trace evidence, like tracks or scat, but you found two similiar areas like this with big 16 inch tracks; so there is trace evidence like photo's or track cast you can provide to show that it was indeed a sasquatch frequenting these "bedding areas.
2: You did mention scat as one of the determining factors in ruling out deer and bear. The simple explanation you could have given Paul when he questioned you about the lack of scat as a determining factor is that it was the lack of tracks or a print that was more the determing factor than the lack of scat, but you chose to argue with him on just that one thing. Then you go off on more of a tangent with assumptions like burying their feces and even defecating in running streams. Dude....nobody twisted this up more than you. One simple explanation could have sufficed but you got all evasive. You throw out all these assumptions I pointed out and understand...someone is going to question you. For that fact, understand this also...we don't question you to prove you wrong, we question you to get a better understanding of what information you are providing and how you have arrived at those statements you are throwing out(burying scat, beds, tracks, ect). If BS is exposed from the questioning(and I'm not saying yours is), then so be it...won't be the first time and won't be the last. Just don't expect everyone on this forum to swallow what is being spooned out without questioning and asking for some reasonable explanations on things that they don't understand. If you feel it should be any different.....sorry. You won't get any quarter. With extraordinary claims, the burden of proof lies in the evidence the claimant provides. Without evidence it is just a story.
bwillard
Jul 19 2007, 06:48 PM
Wow!!! I'm getting dizzy!
hiker11
Jul 19 2007, 08:05 PM
Hi, My family and friends are over for dinner and were all laughing, and getting dizzy too, We cant belive how this thread has turned out, What proof or evidence are you talking about, I put a pic of a bigfoot bed on here with tracks all around it, and dont know what other kind of bed it could be with no other animal tracks in or around it, Under my sighting, I put pics of tracks, and sasquatch, and that is some proof even if you dont belive it is, Now you want more pics and cast of the tracks, of course I have more pics, even if I had a cast you would say its a fake, Im not going to put any more pics on here it goes nowere, I dont care what you think or belive, you should read what I said slowly so you uderstand it, Like my friends said you cant belive I have seen sasquatch, and seen tracks, or anything else to do with them, because its not you seeing it.
Bitter Monk
Jul 19 2007, 09:07 PM
Wow. I mean seriously. Wow.
Blackdog
Jul 19 2007, 10:42 PM
Putting on my meaniehead hat............
*Cough*Bullshit*Cough*
JayleeD
Jul 19 2007, 11:12 PM
QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ Jul 19 2007, 10:07 PM)

Wow. I mean seriously. Wow.
Yep
QUOTE(Blackdog)
*Cough*Bullshit*Cough*
And yep.
yowiie
Jul 20 2007, 03:54 AM
Talk about twisting the story around, :thumbswayup
mike2k1
Jul 20 2007, 06:04 AM
QUOTE(Blackdog @ Jul 19 2007, 11:42 PM)

Putting on my meaniehead hat............
*Cough*Bullshit*Cough*
Pass me my hat BD...
Now:
*cough*Bullshit*cough
DavSquatch
Jul 20 2007, 10:15 AM
adjusting brim of hat, and with that done.
ahem..! "jnugle"
dav
Bitter Monk
Jul 20 2007, 11:16 AM
QUOTE(Blackdog @ Jul 20 2007, 12:42 AM)

Putting on my meaniehead hat............
*Cough*Bullshit*Cough*
But BD. You've got to look at the alternative methods of research. The alternative methods man!
hiker11
Jul 20 2007, 11:43 AM
You guys are to much, I cant belive this thread is still going, no one wants to read this crap, You need more guys like Bill green, on these forums, The guy sounds honest and a good guy, and I would belive anything he had to say, you guye are not doing Bigfoot forums any good with kiddie talk, sounds like your from romper room and instead of ajusting your hats, maby ajust your diapers its full.
Bitter Monk
Jul 20 2007, 11:50 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Wow.
But while we're on the subject of diapers..... Hiker, if you could get your's from around your ears for just a second you might be able to learn a thing or two about why you're in the state you're in now. See, you came along and you made a statement of
fact. The problem is, when someone asked you how you knew this to be a fact, you bunched up instead of explaining yourself. After said bunching, you went on to tease even more information, but once again said bunching occurred just as soon as someone asked you about it. The reason my friend that you're getting dragged over the coals now isn't because we're a bunch of asses, it's because you can't help getting your own ass in a bunch.
hiker11
Jul 20 2007, 12:28 PM
Well you guys must be in shock, when you here or see some truth you panic, Im in no state, just going along for the circus ride, And the thing around my ears is called a helmet, to protect me from all the crap you guys put out. Im sure there would be more people talking about their Sightings on these forums, But when they see this no wonder. About facts learn how to read. You guys have being on here for years and I dont know why, what good are you putting in.
Bitter Monk
Jul 20 2007, 12:52 PM
You wanted to act like a high roller, but when the betting got hot you decided to tuck tail rather than man up and leave your cards on the table. You can't sit at the big table and you and I both know it. Stick that in your helmet.
mike2k1
Jul 20 2007, 01:20 PM
mike2k1
Jul 20 2007, 01:37 PM
QUOTE(hiker11 @ Jul 20 2007, 12:28 PM)

Well you guys must be in shock, when you here or see some truth you panic, Im in no state, just going along for the circus ride, And the thing around my ears is called a helmet, to protect me from all the crap you guys put out. Im sure there would be more people talking about their Sightings on these forums, But when they see this no wonder. About facts learn how to read. You guys have being on here for years and I dont know why, what good are you putting in.
Facts???????????????

What facts? I read(and spell) just fine thank you. Many times you have been asked to answer questions but yet you stay with the evasive mindset. The question is: What good are
YOU putting in, if you cannot offer any corroborating evidence to back up these statements you are claiming to be facts. Is that hard? Apparently so...you ain't doing it. Just keep being evasive. You might want to get you a pair of waders to go with that helment to help compensate for the amount of crap your spewing. Oh...by the way, Here means: in this place; in this spot or locality...Hear means: to perceive by the ear. If you get nothing more out of this thread, I hope it is spelling the right word.
By the way this thread is just about to live out it's usefulness. Now is the chance to get it back on track or it closes this evening.
hiker11
Jul 20 2007, 01:54 PM
Well I guess I am a high roller, looks like I have 4 aces on my table, I cant sit at your table its full of jokers, no more iformation boys, and the thread was useless since it started, sorry forrrr mmyyy speellinngg, I have something stuck in my helmet, I cant here to good, or should I say hear to good.
hiker11
Jul 20 2007, 05:31 PM
Sorry mvbig, For this going on in this thread, didnt think it would get like this.
Maheekat
Jul 20 2007, 08:21 PM
All I know is... it is bad enough watching out for those weird water beetles and worms that hide in leaves and a few other things when I what to jump in a creek, now it's Sasquatch poop.....
Paul1968UK
Jul 21 2007, 04:06 AM
Okay, this thread is done - Hiker11 clearly isn't going to back up his statements with anything remotely passing as evidence - not even a photograph of these alleged 16" tracks, so lets just call it a day on this one, and go back to the jnugle.
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