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wudewasa
WARNING: STRONG LANGUAGE

Part 1:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=r8l83-lwivo

Part 2:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ixs2Gdmx44A

Part 3:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-6xjtX8J1G8

Part 3 has the two "expert researchers" that we all know and loathe who took the bait of the fake bigfoot video.

Enjoy, or hate, you make the call.
Huntster
Were those marijuana plants they were wading through in the first video?

If so, that would explain a lot.........
FredSneakers/David
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HarryHenderson
Forget their point of view, it wasn't funny (except a few very brief instances)...and it so shoulda been considering that's supposedly their 'business'. Did one of them have a bad experience with a guy in a Bigfoot rental and now they just can't deal with it properly? I don't think forcing the masses into boredom was the best way for them to go. Guess their best jokes are behind 'em.
SquatchCommando
There are cons and there are suckers in this field, however some of the most level headed and skeptical (of some things) people I met are bigfoot beleivers(or at least willing to look at the evidence) What was wrong with this brodcast was it lumped all researchers in with tinfoil wearing fools and cons like some we know of that find new "proof " on a monthly basis.
rockinkt
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Huntster
QUOTE(HarryHenderson @ May 25 2007, 12:09 AM) *
Forget their point of view, it wasn't funny (except a few very brief instances)...


I disagree, Harry. I think they're funny as can be.

These are the guys representing the skeptical world. It's hilarious!

They tried the Sonoma BS and fooled almost nobody here, yet crowed their "success" after cutting a deal with MM.

Wow! What a coup!

Pathetic. It's like the Keystone Kops...........

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Guess their best jokes are behind 'em.


Their best jokes are on 'em.
wudewasa
Granted, Penn and Teller's approach to "exposing" the myth of bigfoot is over the top, and has as much spin as anything Michael Moore puts out, but they do have several good points about bigfoot research:

1) The best "evidence" for bigfoot so far are blurry photos, videos and plaster casts of foot prints.

2) It's easy to make a video of fleeting images of sasquatch that is convincing to most people who have not researched bipedalism, and want to believe that bigfoot exists without irrefutable evidence (a body).

3) When power/money are involved, objectivity is often replaced by subjective forces, and it is important to uphold the discipline of science in the face of fame, lest critical thinking be contaminated by avarice.

The Loch Ness researchers fit the stereotype of nerds, and the dinosaur researcher's toys were a humorous addition, although predictable.

This show tries to get folks to think for themselves, and exposes extremists through insulting humor. Essentially, it's entertainment with a bit of truth attached.
HarryHenderson
QUOTE(Huntster @ May 25 2007, 02:05 AM) *
I disagree, Harry. I think they're funny as can be.
These are the guys representing the skeptical world. It's hilarious!
They tried the Sonoma BS and fooled almost nobody here, yet crowed their "success" after cutting a deal with MM.
Wow! What a coup!
Pathetic. It's like the Keystone Kops...........
Their best jokes are on 'em.

icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif You make a very good point!
Huntster
QUOTE(wudewasa @ May 27 2007, 01:59 PM) *
Granted, Penn and Teller's approach to "exposing" the myth of bigfoot is over the top, and has as much spin as anything Michael Moore puts out, but they do have several good points about bigfoot research:

1) The best "evidence" for bigfoot so far are blurry photos, videos and plaster casts of foot prints.


That "best evidence" is enough to warrant a serious, funded search.

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2) It's easy to make a video of fleeting images of sasquatch that is convincing to most people who have not researched bipedalism, and want to believe that bigfoot exists without irrefutable evidence (a body).


There is plenty of evidence to support a bipedal ape. There is fossil evidence (yeah, maybe not in the New World, but it is out there), there is video evidence (the 1967 Patterson film has still not been shown to be a hoax), and there is plenty of footprint evidence (despite the Wallace distraction).

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3) When power/money are involved, objectivity is often replaced by subjective forces, and it is important to uphold the discipline of science in the face of fame, lest critical thinking be contaminated by avarice.


Power is involved now. Money is not.

The "discipline of science" with respect to sasquatchery hasn't yet been tested, because today's science hasn't yet been involved in the phenomenon.

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This show tries to get folks to think for themselves, and exposes extremists through insulting humor.


Bullspit. The Penn and Teller show is extremism.

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Essentially, it's entertainment with a bit of truth attached.


There's not truth attached at all, and I don't find it entertaining.
AxelFoley
I actually like some of Penn & Teller's Bullsh!t episodes, they can be pretty funny. I was very disappointed in this episode though, not because it was Bigfoot they were dealing with, but because they offered nothing new, just the same bullshit about people needing something to believe in, yada yada yada new_whistle.gif
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