Hey everyone!

Been on these forums for ages it seems, but never really been one to post. I am actually in the Hot Springs area (until tomorrow am, then my flight leaves for back home) of BC, and wow is it absolutely gorgeous out here. Lots of Sasquatch cafes, carvings, paintings, etc. I Even had time to take a hike at Sasquatch Provincial Park (sadly, no Sasquatches were found).

I have recently rekindled my interest in photography, and purchased a DSLR (Canon Rebel XT) with two lenses: 18-55mm (kit lens), and a sigma 55-300mm. I have been pretty good carrying them around with me wherever we go. Probably have shot a few thousand pictures from the time I landed (last Wednesday) to now (Sunday). I also was able to take on the task of taking photos for a friends wedding (the whole reason the wife and I are out here).

Earlier tonight I wanted to hike with my wife to find where the source of the hot springs comes from (we are staying at the Harrison Hot Springs Resort) and the lady at the guest services desk pointed us to a path (about a ten minute hike) just out back of the resort that leads to the source. We took off on our hike (its about 5:30pm at this time) and get to a flood gate overpass. The wife and I were trying to figure out if we should go left or right at the fork- the directions weren't all that clear to the source of the hot springs. She had taken the liberty of taking the path to the left and was probably 50 ft in front of me from where I was standing. As I looked around and started to take random shots with my camera I noticed what looked like two people through the tree line. I watched for probably 5 seconds before noticing a few things. At first I wasn't at all interested, but just figured they were taking the same hike that we were. However, I did notice a few things: 1) I immediately thought 'oh theres a father walking with his son' 2)they both were wearing all black (or dark colours) 3) they were almost 'waddling' away, slowly, with the little one holding the fathers hand to the left of him, and 4) when we started the hike i noticed that it was a very laid out path, with lots of bridges and a main path. They appeared to be walking in actual forest.

It could just have been a father and son, who knows. I just kinda regret not bringing my 55-300mm zoom lens. I am actually kicking myself. I was able to snap four pictures with the kit lens, but they all kinda amount to blobs. I've drawn a wicked blob of what I saw with my naked eye. Ah well, it was definitely interesting! The whole time I didn't think much of it, until i finished the hike and didn't come across any father or child. At the pace they were walking/waddling it would have taken them much longer to complete that hike than it took us, and I'm sure we would have passed them.

My flight leaves tomorrow am, but I am hoping to get back there before we go to take another look around.

The Maddness - I could see the blobsquatches without your outline(which is rare with these old eyes).

Did you go off the trail to look for any tracks? Yep, I too wish you had your zoom lens!

Thanks for sharing.

Yep, I could pick them out as well. Is there any chance you could post the actual photos at some point when you get time?
Some folks have the software and the knack for enhancing these shots. Can't say I'm one of them but I do like to try. Just
a thought. Not trashing your work on them mind you! That may be as good as it gets as far as I know...hehe.

Interesting shots though!

Wow great to hear that they are easy to spot! The photos are approx. 5MB each, so I'm not sure what the best method to send these would be. Maybe Paul or Brian have some options? I can send it to them and maybe they can host them?

I figure the more people that can help with these pics the better, so no offense taken Pappy



Hi Oregonfooter,

I wasn't really looking for tracks because at the time the possibility of what I may have seen hadn't really sunk in. What are the odds that someone from the city goes out for 5 days to 'Sasquatch Country' and *possibly* catches a glimpse of one? I'll set my alarm and see if I can head out to take a look in the morning before I leave.

I see the black objects without the outline also. Please post the pics and let the fun begin.

Good luck tomorrow, Mr Madness.. I think the pics are very good. Looks like a nice place to be on scout..


Peace.


Go Leafs Go...

I think I just realized why I have trouble seeing blobs when other people say they see them, I am color blind and while I can see colors I don't see them as clearly as everyone else, for example green and brown and look very alike for me and when you blend them together it makes it difficult to make out anything in it.

I can see the blobs too...look like a father holding the sons' hand just like you said. But on the last photo, the lower right one, I can see what look like a shape next to the tree trunk that looks like a person(with blueish/denim? shirt and pants? and what look like hair and skin color on the face and hands...) Anyone sees this, or is it just my monitor? Did the size of the bigger shape stand out as larger than normal to you?
Lol I have trouble keeping my fingers off the shutter button on my camera too, mine is just a point and shoot digital and I have to constanly remind myself to stop shooting everything.

Hi Blackbear,

If you are referring to the last photo in that group of four, I think that may be a rock or something else in the frame- could be wrong though. With my naked eye I could pretty much determine quickly that they weren't wearing jeans (at least that was my initial observation)...if anything they were in black jumpsuits. That last photo I shot was just for reference. I wasn't actually looking through the viewfinder at that point (no really- most of the time I do!), because I wanted to try and track it with my own eyes (if that makes sense)

Madness, you should have given me or Bill Miller a call. Would have been happy to show you around. Nice place the Harrison resort hey, pricy though. Bill stays at the Bigfoot campgrounds during the summer, thats the place with the large statue at the entrance. I live just 30 minutes down highway 7 in Hatzic. As a matter of fact we both were up on the west side of the Harrison river looking into a report where a man says he shot at a sasquatch last January. Lots of history around there.

Thomas steenburg

I'm PMed an email address to which the original picture can be sent. As soon as I receive it, I'll post it here for everyone's bloborrific enjoyment.

Oh, and for what it's worth, I didn't see any blobs before the outlines, but I'll be interested in seeing the original photos and playing with the color balance...

I also was able to see the figures before your outline M. Looks very interesting to say the least. I see something on the larger figure that I'm anxious to compare to the original photo.

Attached is an animation I made from the original pictures Madness sent me earlier today.

A few notes about the animation:

• The file is a 1.2 MB animated GIF. For those on dial-up, you have been warned.
• Since it's a GIF, it is only a 256 color representation of what was in the original files. As such, it should be used only to show movement from one frame to another and for no other purposes. Note this is an inherent problem with all animated GIFs not just this one.
• I have made no color adjustments or other enhancements.
• I have used a what looks like a rock or some other light colored object on the embankment as a reference point to stabalize the frames (and I've circled it in green). I noticed in the large frames that Madness seemed to be shifting his location from one frame to another. This will introduce some level of distortion in the animation, but I'm not enough of a photographic stud to say much more than that.
• In the fourth and fifth frames, it appears that the figures move into the light and turn to the right behind a tree. The blackness of the figures turns bluish in the light.

As soon as the originals are done uploading, I'll post links.

Oh, one other thing. I used an entirely arbitrary 15/100s of a second pause between frames. Relative speed of the figures is impossible know, so don't try to figure it out from what I've done.

Still uploading the files...

Here are the files. They're all more or less 5 MB a piece.

Image One
Image Two
Image Three
Image Four
Image Five

It occurs to me that the files may have a time stamp from when Madness took them. Depending on that, it may be possible to determine the speed in which the figures are moving, though it'll be hard to determine the distance they travelled using these photos.

Good work, bipto.

Now I really wish he had his zoom lens.

Madness, did you get a chance to look for tracks? Looks to me like you got pretty good blobsquatches.

Thanks for posting the pics Bipto. You are correct, these pictures should have a time stamp on them, along with info on what settings I used. I haven't pulled out my laptop yet (just got home now and I'm exhausted), but will do it later tomorrow after work and let you know.

Thomas,
Thanks so much for the offer! If I would have known you were in the area I definitely would have taken you up on the offer. I had a whole day to kill in the valley while the girls were getting ready for the wedding . Would love to hear more information on that bigfoot report from January though. And next time I am down that way (hopefully soon- we're thinking about a move out there now!) I will send you an e-mail, hopefully we can connect.

Oregonfooter,
I was able to take a quick run through the area before leaving for the airport, but couldn't find any tracks. I shot a few more pictures this time with my zoom lens and once those are loaded (prolly tomorrow) I will post them as well. There is a bridge through the opening, where the figure was spotted, and I had a little conversation with my wife about the whole thing, trying to determine if the objects were on the bridge or behind. If they were behind they must have been quite large as it is dense bush and a few feet lower than the bridge/platform. There were a few spots that looked like there could have been trails (coming down the moutain side) that I took pics of and will post tomorrow. I also had my wife walk the bridge a few times and back away out of my view (hoping to mimick the same path that I saw) and the direction was not the same with what I observed. I was really hoping to figure this one out before I left- either some prints or a logical path that a father/son could have 'waddled' down. Now I'm stuck with blobsquatches and a whole lotta questions!!!

I am off to bed now- its 1am and I have to be at the office for 8am.

TM

Good one Madness, thanks for sharing...

p.s. good job bipto!

I created a zoomed animation of the figures. This is 300% bigger than normal, sharpened, and I've slowed down the animation to 1/4 second between frames with a one second pause at the end. The figures appear to go behind the tree trunk on the right and appear to get lower which leads me to think they're heading down an incline or something.



Here's the second frame out of the five. It's the one that best shows the arm of the larger figure.



Personally, I find this series of images to be very interesting. The bluish tint to the figures in the 4th and 5th images seems to be consistent with how black fur could appear in a similar setting. Do a Google image search for silverback gorilla and you'll see a few examples of that.

It'd be great is a couple of nice people in the area could reenact the event with a person of a determined height in the same area as the figures and someone on the bridge where Madness was taking pictures. That'd help figure out relative height. Also, we could find out where the figures where headed as they walked off and to the right.

Madness, is there anything you can tell us about the spot that'd help us find that bridge on Google maps? I'd love to get a look at the surrounding area.

EDIT: I'm wondering if this is the area you were in.

Great work Madness and Bipto.
Thomas Steenburg e-mailed me last night and said he was covering this one. I'm sure he will be up at the possible sighting location today.
It may also be interesting to note that there has previously been a documented sasquatch sighting in this same area behind the Harrison Hot Springs Hotel. In fact, if I'm not mistaken I think the sighting was by two boys that were also on a hike and is listed in one of Thomas Steenburg's books.
Any closer and those sasquatch will be walking through John Green's back yard.

Bushman

To my very untrained eye, in the animation that Bipto posted, it looks like the 2 figures actually go into the brush on the left side. In other words, looks to me like they continue forward and go a little to the left and into the brush, instead of going behind the tree.

The blue 'thing' looks to be a bush of some sort that pops back up after they pass by it. Possibly the larger figure had pushed it aside until they were past it???

I don't know, but I really like this series of pictures and honestly believe you may just have gotten the 'real' thing there Madness. JMO as always.

Very interesting piece. Excellent work.

I'll be very interested to see how an analysis progresses.

Bipto's animation certainly lends to the impression of a youngster, wobble-walking to keep up with an adult.

Both figures appear to be very dark in color, particularly contrasted against the bright green ground cover.

My sense is that the visible right arm on the large subject is big ... from a mass point of view. Can't tell if the entire arm is visible.

I considered that as well. It may be the case, but I eventually settled on it being the figures cutting to the right and going down. But who knows, you may be right. If Madness has more images of the same area from before or after the fifth image, we'd know for sure.

And I agree with the positive things being said here. It looks very promising, but without further investigation of the scene, it's hard to say much more than that. Here's hoping Steenburg get some images we can compare Madness' to.

So it occurs to me that if it weren't for the fact that Madness might have had bigfoot on the brain during this moment, his first inclination of this just being someone out for a walk with their kid might have been his only thought on the matter and he would have dismissed it. Makes me wonder how many bigfoot people look right through every day without even realizing it.

Of course, you could say the same thing in reverse. That it's only because he had bf on the brain (as do we all) that we see what we think are bf in the photo...

I looked at it and tried to frame what I was seeing as a single animal , like a moose or bear, giving the appearance of two.
The animation, as well as Madness' own account certainly seems to indicate two subjects.

Regarding sightings that 'aren't, in the scheme of things it seems a matter of course to dismiss sighting what appears to be people, as people, especially given the case that one appears to be holding the hand of the other.

Madness do you have an estimate regarding their distance from the treeline?

Hey Bip,
Yes that map is spot on where we were. Actually, where the 'I' is situated on the map is right around the area. Not sure of the actual coordinates, but I'm sure any locals would know of the trail to the hot springs behind the resort. I'm pretty sure anyone can park and take the walk (not just resort guests).
The bluish blob thingy that shows up on the last frame is kinda weird. *If* the two figures are indeed moving off to the right then that means that they would have more than likely been walking across the bridge (assuming they were people). And that is strange because as my wife and I walked to the area we didn't pass a soul. No one was out there at all. If they were walking to the right we would have bumped straight into them for sure. AND...get this, my wife was complaining that there was a skunk in the area because of the smell. Now I know that we refer to BF as a Skunkape- but for those of you who have actually smelt/seen one- do they *actually* smell like skunk??? I could clearly smell skunk in the area, but again because of not really putting the events together didn't think much of it. I know that there is whats called 'Skunk Cabbage' in the area but didn't think to check if there were any near by. I saw some at Minter Gardens while out there and the stuff smelled very much like skunk, so it could have been that. Maybe?!

I'm on my lunch break here at work but as soon as I get home I am going to go through the pictures I took yesterday of the area and post them!

Hi Cryptidon,

This is the million dollar question, and I wish I could say for certain. If it was closer to the tree line than the figures were probably on the path. There is a mound of dirt and some trees in the foreground, and just behind it is the path (30 ft from the treeline)...further beyond that (<10ft) is thick bushes (lower in elevation, maybe 4ft lower?) and moutainside 50-60 ft back from that path (pretty steep). If they were in the bushes then they were definitely large in size due to the elevation. These are all approximations, I didn't actually make and measurements while out there. Hope that makes sense

hey everyone this is a wonderful new sasquatch sighting thread very informative. those sasquatch photos are very interesting indeedy. please leep me posted definetly ok. thanks bill

Very interesting pics! How cool would it be, Madness, if you actually were able to photograph 2 BF while on your Harrison adventure? Makes me want to head up there this weekend - it's just over an hour from our house.

The "blue" thing in the 4th picture has me perplexed. On its own it looks like a guy in a blue coat. But combined with the animation it appears to have no relation to the two figures (which seem to be moving to the left). So while I was sitting here pondering this, a lovely blue jay flew onto our deck and it made me wonder...could the blue thing be a jay that just happened to fly into view during this photo shoot?

I wonder if there were any tracks around that pond? The sign on the pole said caution salmon, wonder if they were fishing? That is assuming they were bigfoot.?

I am wondering if this is an adult and child walking out of the shadows and curving to the right. In the last 2 frames the adult is behind the tree, and the child is in the sun where the blue shirt is visible. Look for the hand of the child reaching up and the hand of the adult from behind the tree in frame 4. Or is this my imagination?

You know, after looking at the animation that Bipto posted, I'm thinking that the blue looking spot in the last frame is actually just one of the figures and looking at it through the green of the bushes gives it a blue tint. I dunno, but my eyes are starting to cross from studying these pictures.

Exactly! It looks like the larger and smaller figure turn to the right and the sun shining through the clearing in the trees is reflecting light off the back and head of the smallest of the two giving a grayish-blue tint of color.

Bipto, is there any way that your animation can be slowed down some?

Wow,
At first I passed this off as just another blobsquatch, but now that I look at it with the animated gif, this has got to be one of the most interesting blobsquatches I've ever seen. The shapes, movement, and lighting look very natural. Excellent work all.

ohio_squatcher

I don't think it's your imagination. It's one good explanation. I'm on the wrong computer to show this, but in the 4th and 5th frame one could think they see a small peach-colored patch of pixels that appear to track with the bluish area. Could be some toe-headed little kid's head? Dunno. Just another theory...


Yes, I'll post a slower one as soon as I get back on my laptop...


Absolutely, but maybe we need to better define the term "blobsquatch". In my book, this isn't a real blobsquatch since we know there were figures there when Madness snapped his pics. Classic blobsquatches are the shapes found on pictures where no bigfoot were seen when the pics were taken.


Darn. If only you had been about 2,000 feet to the West you would have been in the high resolution satellite picture and not the fuzzy one!

First, here's the slower animation as requested:





Morgoth, I think these two frames could fit within your hypothesis. What I assumed was the larger figure getting shorter as the result of a dip in the terrain could just as easily be the smaller figure with the larger being behind the tree. I'm showing images 4 and 5 here looping twice. The first time, with the "head" circled, the second time without.

I don't know bipto, that could be anything...

I think these pics are really interesting, but we all know they won't prove anything by themselves. Let's not forget there is a witness here.

Ok Madness, you were kinda brief at the beginning. It's time to spill your guts, what are we looking at here?

I see an arm, with a hand up to the head area. Like a kid with his arm up extended to the person behind the tree. I see spiders slowly crawling up my monitor, I see...

Totally. At this point, I'm trying to be as open as possible to all the various explanations. More from the witness would be very helpful as would investigation of the scene.

Damn, if only I were 1,500 miles closer...

Well I tryed to down load the image here but for some reason it will not work? But I took the one image in which a blueish tinge is seen and put it through Adobe Photoshop and used fill in flash. And it appesrs to me the the subject is a woman wearing a blue colored coat walking the nice trails which run right behind the harrison Hotel all the way up to the hot springs themseleves. It lovely old growth forest back there and there have been sightings of sasquatch in the past right behind the hotel. I think I may have published a couple of them. But if you take the photo with the blue in it a Zoom in and lighten a bit you will see what appears to be the profile of a woman in a blue coat? Give it try gang and see for yourseleves?

Damm tryed agian to post the still which shows what I was talking about but I can't get to do what I want it to do.

Thomas Steenburg

Need some comparision photos, as Bipto noted earlier.
If people are seeing Bigofoot behind this place. What about trail cams? Trip wire photos?
A couple of weeks ago I discounted the worlds largest dog photo to my co-workers because of what I have learned from you guys. Great Job!

Since we're speculating... I disagree that whatever it is, turned right. I think that it continued straight ahead into the bushes.

I think the blueish thing is just a branch or bush and the color is not blue in reality. Remember, the GIFS reduced the number of colors from millions in the original to 256. The computer made some choices there. I think proof of this is the fact that other areas in the GIF also show blueish things. It's just a computer generated "best guess".

Also Madness, how far apart (timewise) are those pics? Did you have the trigger down the whole time or did some time elapse between shots? Thanks!

Ahhh...the 'If only(ies)'....I am having a serious case of those right now. Mainly with not having the right equipment and the state of mind to actually seriously contemplate that it *could* have been anything unusual at the time. I am always the one that is wondering in the back of my mind how many we may have missed just because we weren't looking. I know that I have a tendency to watch almost every step I take when I walk through the forest or bush, and those are precious seconds that something out there has to escape my field of view.

Gigantor,
Not sure what you are trying to get at with your question. How more honest do you want me to be with what I think I saw? I never went beyond saying what I thought it might have been, and what I found to be out of place. I wasn't out hunting anything...I was out going for a nice relaxing walk with my wife after a long and stressful wedding!

Bip, I've got the details on those pictures i sent you. Time stamped as follows:
Frame 1: 5:23:49 PM
Frame 2: 5:23:50 PM
Frame 3: 5:23:51 PM
Frame 4: 5:24:01 PM
Frame 5: 5:24:01 PM

The last two frames are essentially identical, and must have been snapped pretty quickly together. I am surprised at my lag in between the 3rd and 4th frame.

I have some comparison photos and other misc stuff from the following day that I will be posting in a few minutes...I just want to shrink them to a more manageable size!

I have a few more photos from that day that I have had time to go through that may be relevant. They are from the path that we walked along after snapping the initial photos. The first photo is me approaching the bridge that leads over to the opening, where the two 'people' were spotted. The opening is to the left side of that picture. Shortly afterwards I shot the next photo, of me walking up the bridge.

Time stamps for these:
Frame 1: 5:26:38 PM
Frame 2: 5:26:40 PM

From the time I shot the last picture through the tree line and took these pictures the total elapsed time was about 2.5 minutes. Not that long really. I am certain that if someone was with child and walking in our direction (that is, to the right in the initial frames) we would have bumped into them. I don't think there was any other route out.

Please don't take it the wrong way. I'm not saying you are dishonest at all. Quite the contrary.

No problem Gigantor! I am probably just as confused as you are right now

For anyone else out there...

*tap tap*, is this thing on? j/k. I am going to post a few more images here that I took. The following day, before the flight left we (the wife and I) walked to the same area, but now that I look at where I took the shots and where the figures were spotted initially, I think i was too far to the left on the flood gate bridge. The angle is off.

There are also a few pictures I took when we got closer to the location, but seeing that we were in a hurry I only brought the zoom lens this time sans the 18-55mm, therefore I had to 'stitch' via photoshop a few pics together to try and get a better sense of the surrounding vegetation.

I also spotted some sort of dug out area under some vegetation, pretty much right behind the opening where I shot the two figures. I had to walk down a few feet from the path to really see it and I only got one good, in focus shot. There was also a broken stick (dunno if this has ANY relation whatsoever to this but I am including it as part of my observation) right underneath the large centred tree in the full framed picture from the bridge

hey thomas steenburg & madness wow your very welcome for those new above updates with the photos of the sighting location. very inpressive. please keep us posted ok. thanks bill

awesome work

I'm certain I'm nuts, but I sort of see a face in the second image in the animation (IMG_3157).

Well heres the photo in it's original form. Everytime I try to post the zoomed in ones it returns to this. But if you folks zoom in on the blue figure you can make out what I think is a woman in a blue coat, could be a guy I supose, but defiantly a person. Brian same problem with trying to e-mail, image will not transfur??

Thomas Steenburg