Maybe that's where Albert Ostman and Muchalat Harry were headed before they escaped?

"If I shot a Sasquatch"

(very obscure reference).......I'd keep the hat.

Ah, an open mind. I love it. You are no doubt one of the Chosen. Bigfoot will make the final decision, however, and will then prepare a place for you on the next flight to Zeta Reticuli. I am only a low-level emissary, even as Commander of the Intergalactic Federation, or whatever it is I said I am.--ufo

I wouldn't shoot one if I had the chance. I think it's ironic that we have to kill something to prove that it exists. If you believe in it, why do you need to prove it to anyone else? I understand for science, but I still think there are other ways. Though i must say, I would still respect someone who did shoot one because it would be understandable. If I did want to shoot a BF, I wouldn't worry about guys in monkey suits, as far as I'm concered it's their problem. Why did you get one? LOL. I am sure that Fish and Game or any judge with ide with you. If you run around in a deer suit and get shoot, well you get the idea....

Before one of the true hunters on the forum tears you a new one about that statement. You may want to retract or explain yourself a bit better. Just a thought.

STOP HOLDING ME BACK, JIMF!!! LEMME AT 'IM!!!

But seriously, I've thought about this scenario before, too. I vaguely remember hearing that it is legally attempted suicide if you run around in the deep woods in a gorilla suit.

Kucta-qa

Seriously though, and if Counselor gets a chance maybe he'll correct me if I'm wrong. Wearing a Bigfoot costume during hunting season is stupid and dangerous, but not a crime. It is however a crime if you shoot someone wearing that costume and you will likely face either criminal or civil charges based on the outcome.

If you're talking about the post directly above yours, I'm not seeing where he said anything worth getting his ass tore.

Regardless, the 'accidently shooting a prankster in a suit' scenario always cracks me up. Mostly because 'it never happens'. And if it ever has, it's a secret. We all roll our eyes and laugh when he talk about some idiot in a suit getting shot as the seeming lunacy in it is obvious. But I bet I can count on one hand the number of 'Bigfoot stories' I've seen where 'shooting a gun' was directly involved in the incident. Of anything - a shadow, a beast, a man, a grunt, a 'could be a badger but I bet it's Bigfoot' - anything. If a Bigfoot specimen's demise comes from a bullet, I would be genuinely surprised.

HH,

If you read some of the older reports, from 40-70 years ago, there are quite a few more accounts of shooting than you can count on one hand, that's for sure.

But you are correct about today's world. No one is willing to take the risk today. If it is a prankster, that's 2nd degree murder, at the least.

I guess if you shot a guy in a suit you'd want your lawyer to bring up cases where a person with a replica weapon got shot. Making the analogy that a rampaging gorilla that appears to be able to tear you limb from limb is a "lethal weapon" or has lethal weapons of it's own. The argument being that it's what it seemed to be rather than what it was. IF you shot a guy in a horse suit however, you'd be SOL, because you'd have to admit you were reckless in not knowing a horse from a deer, and I doubt anyone would believe you felt your life threatened by it.

This part: No hunter I've ever known, unless inept, shoots at a target that they cannot identify 100% for what it is.. If you're that close to get a clear shot, you should have a clear view as well, and hopefully not randomly pull the trigger out of fear, or because it's the fault of the "guy in the suit". JMO.

Hunting accidents would fall into these categories
1. Trip and fall while going to and from hunting area or while hunting on foot (bullet or arrow damage ensues)
2. Falling from tree stand
3. Someone is in line of fire (Dick Cheney example)
4. Stray Bullet


I don't know of any cases where someone was shot, and the shooter claimed that they mistook them for a deer.
I do know that the scariest thing that happens when out hunting, at least to me, is an encounter with another hunter. I mean you're there holding a gun, theoretically he could say I threatened him and pointed the gun at him and he had to shoot me. And he'd get away with it most likely. Anyway, does that mean I could shoot a person in a gorilla suit in the woods and get away with it? probably not.

A great case could be made however for accidental shooting.

How could one possibly know or even reasonably expect that there is a person wearing a furry suit running through the woods during hunting season?

How could one expect a GORILLA to be running through the woods during any season?

I think your forgetting about the reports that start out "At first I thought it was a bear, then it stood up".

Thats right. You wouldnt expect or intend to see something of that nature. An accidental shooting is a shooting that was not planned or intended. If the defendant did not know, and had not willfully planned to kill this person in the suit - I do think a case could be made for accidental.

You are not required by law to walk up to every animal that looks like it has fuzzy fur - and yank on it to see if there is a human in there.

Murder is malicious and willful - and intent is always there. What is the intent here? You think your pulling the trigger on an animal - but it turns out to be a man in a monkey suit..

Definition:

1. Occurring unexpectedly, unintentionally, or by chance.

Did this person expect to go into the woods and find a person running around in a costume that does infact resemble an animal of some kind?

Did this person in any way intend to shoot this person?

Did the defendant give the suit to the decedant?

Did the defendant know the decedant would be running around the woods on this day, at this time wearing a suit that could have him confused for an animal?

I understand where you're coming from now. I'm not a hunter and know of that rule. I want to think that if a Bigfoot is ever shot, the shooter knew exactly what he was shooting at. And would not later deny it or excuse it as a case of mistaken identity blah blah. "Yeah, I knew what it was, and I also knew there's important people out there that would like to have one."

5. Sheer stupidity or unbridled enthusiasm.

I live in a rural area about an hour and a half north of New York City..

We used to get city folks who traveled up here to hunt who obviously have never been in the woods and would basically shoot at any thing that moved...

Had one shoot a farmers' cow claiming he thought it was a deer..
There was a guy shot somebody's Labrador Retriever claiming he thought it was a deer..

The worst being the guy who brought his wife along to hunt, when they got seperated in the woods he shot her, claiming to police he thought she was a deer.

Needless to say, some of us stay away from the woods during hunting season around here.

You can add a Mule to the list of misidentified deer, that story has been around for a long time. Plus "ALMOST" a very large pig, if I hadn't been as careful as I was of identifying my target BEFORE shooting. In Wisconsin where I did most of my hunting the biggest problem was from the "City Slickers" who'd never been in the woods, let alone hunted before from Milwaukee and Chicago.. these guys and gals are DANGEROUS! It got so bad at one time that they were recommending people DO NOT use white toilet paper when doing their duty in the woods. Seems those silly people were mistaking people wiping their bottoms with white toilet paper as flashes of white from the deer tails and shooting! Quite a few people ended up in ER's bottom shot.

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I even talked to one at a coffee shop one morning, who was telling me he'd been out hunting the previous week. I asked how he did and his response was, "I got off a couple of sound shots, but didn't get anything". When I asked what he meant by a "Sound Shot" his response was, "It's when you hear something rustling in bushes and you shoot into them because you know it has to be a deer." !?!?! I don't want to be anywhere NEAR where that guy hunts!

Does anyone else have the problem of seeing the title of this thread.. "IF I SHOT A BIGFOOT"

Everytime I look at it, the words play back in my head subsituting itself for the lyrics to "If I Were A Rich Man" from the play Fiddler on the Roof. And it plays over and over and over in my head for quite a while before I get rid of it! Now if you're familiar with the song, I hope YOU enjoy as well! LOL

William Roe in 1955 said he had a clear shot and he couldn't pull the trigger.

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/classics/roe.htm

I REALLY wish you were right, but its not going to happen unless the idiots have a body to play with....

Cant Speak for others, But rather or not I took the shoot, would depend on what I was carring. If I was out looking for rabbit, and I have a 22, well you get the ideal. Iam not going to do it, just watch and see what happens. But usually I carry a 9mm with me in the woods, but still. If BF is 7-8ft just how effective is my little 9mm going to be. I will have to let him go, rather then have myself turned into dog chow. If you have ever been up close and personal to a silver back. Just bars between you. You can feel them in you chest when they speak, and just the size and power, and there only 6ft.

No jury is going to convict a person for shooting some fool in a suit. But yes always IDENTIFY 100%
Hey you could be having a slow day, not much dear or elk or pig or bear, so what the heck, have a little fun, lol

For getting the body out. Well if some one could get me a dang cell PH the worked in the some of the area's I get into I could call a buddy for the ATV and drag him out. And then I could get my own show on SCIFI or TRAVL Ch as the CRIPTO HUNTER he he....

Familiarity with your weapon is the key. My 22 mag revolvers are the optimum concealed weapon. But when ease of firing, hitting a moving object, or fighting defensively, I prefer my little 38 revolver. Having to take time to find your stance, get a nice 2 handed grip, etc. is a sure path to the great unknown. The ability to shoot 'from the hip' should be a minimum prerequisite. Pop off a few in his face will surely bring the desired result. (it's the body we need anyway)

My uncle Pete (Ed, to outsiders) was a great northwest hunter. I used to get a kick out of his hunting stories. He used to stress that you had to get within a hundred feet or so to deliver the sure-shot with his high powered bow. Gotta hit him near the shoulder blade, or something, to knock him down.... Used to carry a long barreled Colt 45 for bear. I spent a lot of time in those forests, while my father worked backwoods welding projects (water, power, etc) and I could just sneak up to any prey animal and shoot them point blank with my BB gun. No challenge. Fishing, on the other hand, is a great challenge.

I guess you haven't hunted in North Carolina! Here's a story I posted a couple years ago. I saved the newspaper clipping somewhere and will try to find and post it. Not implying a large rodent is the same asa hairy biped, but reminding hunters to be careful about the dogma that they never shoot unless they know exactly what it is simply isn't always true.

an old post of mine




Apeman

THAT'S IT! THAT'S THE ONE! Yes, that happens to me too. Every time.

I gotta know where you can find that camo TP. PM me?

I was informed that if a person were to shoot and kill a sasquatch, and then fear that he may be prosecuted, then do the following:
Place a gun in it's hand and tell the authorities that it was gonna shoot you, so you shot it.

In this jurisdiction (Oklahoma) there may be the catch-22 in that illegally killing a non-game animal (meaning you cannot conclusively prove it was 100% self-defence) is felony animal abuse and carries a harsher penalty-under-law than spousal abuse.

Edited to remove that last sentence. That doesn't belong here and won't be allowed.

Even if you kill it, they probably won't believe it. Just strap it down on the front of the pickup, put some antlers on it and you're home free. If anybody asks, tell them it's a sasqualope.
Or, if you don't like the idea of making him look like some kind of devil man, nix the part about the antlers. When the police pull you over, tell them you are headed for the doorstep of the Smithsonian Institution, and can they please escort you.



(Yadadalna's {or something like that} g-gson)

Chickenofthesea,

Sorry Charlie, but my money would be on you not making it out of the woods alive as retribution may well be swift and permanent.

My little injun friend, you're full of it. That kinda thinking will keep you, and people like you on the res forever.

manofthesea, I take offense at your 'injun' and 'res' comments. Take a few days off from the forum and see if you can come back here and be civil. If not, don't come back at all.

If I shot a Sasquatch......
Id shoot one in the morning......
Id shoot one in the evening.......
All over this land.....

Umm, sorry, back to the topic at hand.

Haha, oh, man, manofthesea, you just got Jaylee'd.

Jim isn't the only one.

Is there something to hunt in North Carolina?



I've been hunting with others. I've been shot by them.

I know full well that all hunters aren't perfect.

But, then, what group of folks are?

Scientists?



Yeah. "That's an aside".

It's good they shot it. It doesn't belong here. The last thing we need in this country are capybaras running around willy-nilly in the swamps..........

I often have nightmares about capybaras running around willy-nilly in the swamps... and now probably will again tonight... thanks...

In the past, there have been many comments on the Skamania County, Washington State anti-bigfoot hunting/killing ordenance. A few years ago, the penalty for that offence in Skamania County was reduced to one year in the county jail and a $1000 fine. This is the maximum that the State of Washington under the RCW (Revised Code of Washington) to be applied in a county ordenance. So the original ordenance was not valid, while the present does meet state guidelines.

However there is a very stong arguement that a county does not have the authority to set its own county ordenances on hunting outside and above that directed by the Washington State Fish and Game Commission. Plus the old agrement of passing a law against an animal that is not proven to exist. As my lawyer friend once said, you might be convicted in county court but it would most likely be thrown out by apeal to the state court of apeals as the county went beyond it's jurisdiction. Though I would not be the one to go to the cost and bother in the first place.

thank you JayleeD i found it very offensive myself.

manofthesea I can't believe you actually posted something so racist...I thought this was a friendly forum..very very poor taste..

As far as I am concerned, if someone is STUPID enough to run around the woods dressed in a gorilla costume, FOR ANY REASON, deserves to get shot. Stupidity SHOULD be painful.



Capybarras are known in Florida and are actually encouraged to be hunted. They are considered an invasive pest.

have any of yall ever considered the possibility that people have killed a squatch, but havent reported it for one reason or another.. either out of fear of retribution, or thinking they commited an illegal act? or for that matter, here in Polk county, Arkansas, i have no problem seeing an acorn stuffed squatch roasting over an open fire w/ an apple in it's mouth, with a gaggle of my buddies waiting around
w/ their tounges hangin out...

Let's say someone did shoot and kill a sasquatch. Let's also say that they only removed the head and a foot and hand. Wouldn't it be a good idea to place some kind of monitoring device like a motion activated game camera in the vicinity of the body to see exactly what happens to the remaining "pieces' over the next few days/weeks? Just a thought as there are many theories of bigfoot burying their dead.