Morgoth
Mar 21 2007, 10:20 AM
There is a new bigfoot video from Vancouver Island on Cryptomundo and You Tube. And this one has sound!
http://www.cryptomundo.com/bigfoot-report/vabc-bf/Wouldn't you love to see the orignal video instead of the highly compressed version?
Ronnie Bass
Mar 21 2007, 11:08 AM
There is something there, but unless someone can enhance the video it looks like it's almost impossible to tell if it's bear, bigfoot or whatever.
I also don't think it's a hoax on the kids part, their reaction and fear seems to be genuine, if it is a hoax it looks like they were ones being duped.
moregon
Mar 21 2007, 11:39 AM
The more I re-watch the beginning of the video, the more and more it looks like a bear going from standing to down on all fours.
camper32
Mar 21 2007, 11:56 AM
100% bear.
Mystical Hominid
Mar 21 2007, 12:41 PM
Nice video blobsquatch there. :new_hmmsmiley02:
It is what it is I suppose. Can't really determin much about it. If authentic, at least they shared what they got.
I agree though, there not much to make me think its not a bear.
Drew
Mar 21 2007, 01:34 PM
Looked like the movement of a bear coming down off leaning on the tree and turning and dropping down to all 4s before disappearing
youcan'tseeme
Mar 21 2007, 02:11 PM
there's nothing there that would conclude it been a squatch.
does anyone know why every video on the net has to beso pixelly?
Skeptical Greg
Mar 21 2007, 04:13 PM
QUOTE(youcan @ Mar 21 2007, 04:11 PM)

................
does anyone know why every video on the net has to beso pixelly?
Don't you know ? Bigfoot IS ' pixelly ' :biggrin: ..
Savage30L
Mar 21 2007, 06:41 PM
I went through it frame-by-frame. When the creature is first visible, it is standing on its legs, and those legs are too long, in relation to overall height, for it to be a bear.
slewfoot
Mar 21 2007, 06:55 PM
I saw that also. There is a long weed centered on the figure that may give the impression of long legs while it is in the upright position.
Apeman
Mar 21 2007, 06:59 PM
QUOTE(moregon @ Mar 21 2007, 01:39 PM)

The more I re-watch the beginning of the video, the more and more it looks like a bear going from standing to down on all fours.
Good observation, and seems pretty likely.
The kids are pretty convincing during the initial filming but does it not strike anyone else as odd to hear some 14 year-olds (?) describe something as "humanoid?" I guess it's probably a pretty common term in Sci-Fi movies these days?
mkianni
Mar 21 2007, 07:24 PM
QUOTE(Apeman @ Mar 21 2007, 07:59 PM)

The kids are pretty convincing during the initial filming but does it not strike anyone else as odd to hear some 14 year-olds (?) describe something as "humanoid?"
That struck me as odd too.
Something else I thought was strange is the fact that they returned to the spot within 15 minutes of their sighting not knowing what this thing was. It seems that they were pretty confident that it was gone. I think at the age of 14, I wouldn't have been so confident.
Ronnie Bass
Mar 21 2007, 07:33 PM
QUOTE(mkianni @ Mar 21 2007, 09:24 PM)

That struck me as odd too.
Something else I thought was strange is the fact that they returned to the spot within 15 minutes of their sighting not knowing what this thing was. It seems that they were pretty confident that it was gone. I think at the age of 14, I wouldn't have been so confident.
To be honest, at the age 14 I probably would have gone back too, I wouldn't now at 41 unless I knew for sure it wasn't a bear.
bigGun
Mar 21 2007, 08:29 PM
QUOTE(slewfoot @ Mar 21 2007, 06:55 PM)

I saw that also. There is a long weed centered on the figure that may give the impression of long legs while it is in the upright position.
That frame is about the only good frame. Hard to tel what it was. Neat video anyways.
I doubt I would have gone back w/o a really Big gun. lol
believer
Mar 21 2007, 08:29 PM
I don't see a bear initially after looking at the legs. Hard to say hoax after hearing the younger pulling the older back. That act of concern and fear by him has kept his brother intact if it was a bear and has kept us from seeing footage of our furry friend low crawling out of there.
HarryHenderson
Mar 21 2007, 09:03 PM
QUOTE(Skeptical Greg @ Mar 21 2007, 03:13 PM)

Don't you know ? Bigfoot IS ' pixelly ' :biggrin: ..
:laugh:
QUOTE
"I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside. Run. He's fuzzy. Get outta here!" M.H.
I think somebody here has that quote in their signature line.
GriceUK76
Mar 22 2007, 08:53 AM
after a few watches of this vid I simply can't make anything out other than " something " moving, at first I thought bear because it seemed to go down on all fours which has already been mentioned.
The kid telling the other to stay back does sound convincing to me though; plus when I was that age I would have been back like a shot whether I thought it was a bear or whatever.
Something else bothers me though, if they couldn't tell what it was by looking with the naked eye how are we supposed to make sense of a highly compressed pixellated video clip, I just think its funny how eye witnesses to these videos being taken rarely "see" more than the video being taken. I do hope its a real sasquatch though.
tuffyy
Mar 22 2007, 11:48 AM
After having a good look,frame by frame.It does look to long legged to be a bear at the start.A little thin looking also for a bear.Not sure but having hunted bears,it doesnt really look like a bear at the start.Slow it down and see for yourself and maybe someone can outline it???Not so sure on this one....
Robert
Mar 22 2007, 04:03 PM
It's a really large, but somewhat thin black bear. You can see it go down on all fours and walk away.
counselor
Mar 22 2007, 04:18 PM
QUOTE(Skeptical Greg @ Mar 21 2007, 06:13 PM)

Don't you know ? Bigfoot IS ' pixelly ' :biggrin: ..
And therein lies the problem - that is why all pictures/videos of Sasquatches are blurry.
Sasquatches
are blurry - so we can no longer blame the photographers.
Next question?
:biggrin:
PinelandsResearcher
Mar 24 2007, 08:44 PM
Definitely bigfoot! Way too "pixelly" to be a bear and bears are not "humanoids".
youcan'tseeme
Mar 25 2007, 07:35 PM
QUOTE(counselor @ Mar 22 2007, 05:18 PM)

QUOTE(Skeptical Greg @ Mar 21 2007, 06:13 PM)

Don't you know ? Bigfoot IS ' pixelly ' :biggrin: ..
And therein lies the problem - that is why all pictures/videos of Sasquatches are blurry.
Sasquatches
are blurry - so we can no longer blame the photographers.
Next question?
:biggrin:
no not blurry i mean all the pixels. does a video need to be pixelized to go on a computer?
dogu4
Mar 25 2007, 08:39 PM
Some, and by that I'd say most, of the video cameras in cell phones and the kind you find on common digital cameras do not have very high resolution and additionally when the object is moving, the light is dim, the processors compensate with those digital artifacts your calling pixilation. With the previous generation of analogue video camcorders you'd get dark muddy colors and blurring, and when you would tranfer from one generation to next, each time you'd duplicate it, you'd quickly loose significant resolution. We've become spoiled with watching high quality video and film, some of which can be remarkably good even on Youtube. FYI the kind of lenses and cameras that give us those really sharp crisp images can easily run into the tens of thousands of dollars, The ability of a digicam or cellphone to catch snapshots and quick little video clips in good conditions is a modern electronic miracle, we're still a few years away from even the quality of resolution we got even with cheap instamatics back in the 70s and 80s. Too bad we can't go surveying the deep dark mountainsides with the kind of setup and support platform I just saw the film crew use on tonight's Discovery Channel presentation of Planet Earth. Some of those lenses might very well have cost more that a nice new truck.
xpert4u
Mar 25 2007, 11:47 PM
Really crappy video of a bear..thats all folks...
zartimus
Mar 26 2007, 09:59 AM
I vote bear.. "Go Bear!".
What I would like to have happened is for Patty to come in from the side, cuff the kid with the vidcam and say "Git!". Or grunt or whatever in Bigfootese.
I just found out about this a second ago. I was hoping for the same excitement leading up to the old manitoba blobsquatch vid. Alas..
moregon
Mar 26 2007, 10:45 AM
QUOTE(youcan @ Mar 25 2007, 08:35 PM)

no not blurry i mean all the pixels. does a video need to be pixelized to go on a computer?
The answer is no, I have videos saved on my computer that are of DVD Quality. The problem is many places that store videos, such as YouTube and Photobucket use a compression format known as .FLV rather than .mpg, .mov or .avi.
The .flv format is for the Flash Video viewer. The advantage is a format that is viewable by the majority of Interenet users who have a Flash Plug-In already installed in their browsers and a much smaller file size for quicker transfers. The drawback is it's more compressed than the other formats so there is loss of information which translates into loss of quality and the creation of pixelation.
http://www.wimpyplayer.com/support/flv_about.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLVhttp://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=FLV_Video_Compression
Northern Manitoban
Mar 26 2007, 10:56 AM
yet another hoax looks like nothing to me could be someone running in the bush to blurry, if not its a Bear. Sorry guys still no proof
Morgoth
Mar 26 2007, 12:23 PM
QUOTE(Northern Manitoban @ Mar 26 2007, 09:56 AM)

Sorry guys still no proof
The story is getting deeper:
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptid-universe/va-bf-video2/If he is really sending it to the B. C. Cryptozoology Society there could be something on there that isn't bear like...
mkianni
Mar 26 2007, 12:33 PM
QUOTE(Morgoth @ Mar 26 2007, 01:23 PM)

QUOTE(Northern Manitoban @ Mar 26 2007, 09:56 AM)

Sorry guys still no proof
If he is really sending it to the B. C. Cryptozoology Society there could be something on there that isn't bear like...
The writer of the article also says that there is no such organization called the B. C. Cryptozoology Society.
I wonder whats up with that?
twinkletoes
Mar 27 2007, 07:19 AM
I just read a little story via Rogers.com. Apparently a man and his friend filmed a sass and it's posted on youtube.com. This man made the short film in the Enchanted Forest in Tofino British Columbia. He said he put the video on youtube. I went to that site and I couldn't find the film. Has anyone else seen it?
georgerm
Mar 27 2007, 08:02 AM
QUOTE(twinkletoes @ Mar 27 2007, 06:19 AM)

I just read a little story via Rogers.com. Apparently a man and his friend filmed a sass and it's posted on youtube.com. This man made the short film in the Enchanted Forest in Tofino British Columbia. He said he put the video on youtube. I went to that site and I couldn't find the film. Has anyone else seen it?
No but I hope someone finds it and posts the URL!
LAL
Mar 27 2007, 08:11 AM
Kucta-qa
Mar 27 2007, 03:40 PM
Wow. Seen some bad footage in my days, but, this takes the cake. It's so obviously staged that it's not even funny.
Even if it was real, it's too blurry and short to be useful.
JVDBogart
Mar 27 2007, 04:29 PM
It was going pretty good until that goofball started talking and revealed himself to be one bad actor !!
Orygun
Mar 28 2007, 09:30 AM
Ronnie Bass
Mar 28 2007, 09:36 AM
QUOTE(Kucta-qa @ Mar 27 2007, 05:40 PM)

Wow. Seen some bad footage in my days, but, this takes the cake. It's so obviously staged that it's not even funny.
Even if it was real, it's too blurry and short to be useful.
I don't think it was staged, I just think it was a bear and the kids got scared and confused.
Kucta-qa
Mar 28 2007, 09:47 AM
QUOTE(Ronnie Bass @ Mar 28 2007, 10:36 AM)

QUOTE(Kucta-qa @ Mar 27 2007, 05:40 PM)

Wow. Seen some bad footage in my days, but, this takes the cake. It's so obviously staged that it's not even funny.
Even if it was real, it's too blurry and short to be useful.
I don't think it was staged, I just think it was a bear and the kids got scared and confused.
"Yeah, this is where we were 15 minutes when we saw the bi--- something."
"Hey! Look at these indentations in the ground! They look like big foot prints!"
"Wow, we're out in the middle of no where."
"Turn the camera off. It's getting a little wet."
Sounds rather staged, with bad acting to boot.
Ronnie Bass
Mar 28 2007, 11:40 AM
QUOTE(Kucta-qa @ Mar 28 2007, 11:47 AM)

["Yeah, this is where we were 15 minutes when we saw the bi--- something."
"Hey! Look at these indentations in the ground! They look like big foot prints!"
"Wow, we're out in the middle of no where."
"Turn the camera off. It's getting a little wet."
Sounds rather staged, with bad acting to boot.
What video are you watching? Because I hear nothing of that type of dialogue you just posted.
Orygun
Mar 28 2007, 12:46 PM
QUOTE(Ronnie Bass @ Mar 28 2007, 10:40 AM)

QUOTE(Kucta-qa @ Mar 28 2007, 11:47 AM)

["Yeah, this is where we were 15 minutes when we saw the bi--- something."
"Hey! Look at these indentations in the ground! They look like big foot prints!"
"Wow, we're out in the middle of no where."
"Turn the camera off. It's getting a little wet."
Sounds rather staged, with bad acting to boot.
What video are you watching? Because I hear nothing of that type of dialogue you just posted.
Try turning up the volume?
Ronnie Bass
Mar 28 2007, 01:41 PM
QUOTE(Orygun @ Mar 28 2007, 02:46 PM)

Try turning up the volume?
It is loud enough and I don't hear them once make a reference to Bigfoot or anything like that. Also the kids fears in their voices at the beginning comes across as quite genuine. Just because the video is not of a Bigfoot are we just to naturally assume it's a hoax and not mistaken identity?
mkianni
Mar 28 2007, 01:56 PM
I believe there are three separate threads on this topic already:
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?sho...=18259&st=0
HarryHenderson
Mar 28 2007, 04:05 PM
The thread "youtube.com latest video, anyone seen it?" started by twinkletoes has been merged into this one.
gilbert
Apr 5 2007, 02:35 PM
what are we supposed to do with this? can i get a look at something without my eyes shaking out the frame.
t.steenburg
Apr 7 2007, 12:33 AM
I did send the video owner a e-mail asking for more information but he did not replie to my requests. Also John Kirk told me that it was not sent to the B.C.S.C.C. for any analysis. One interesting thing though the date that was given when this video was shot? It looks like it's a typical rainy cold winter day on vancouver island. one of the boys is even waring a winter hat. yet when I checked back to the weather report that day around Tofino, it was clear and warm with only a few clouds??
Thomas Steenburg
TimMcmanus
Apr 9 2007, 07:36 PM
So your footage is automatically disqualified as a hoax if you express the suspicion that what you've just filmed might've been bigfoot and therefore have some familiarity with the subject? (I'm referring to the way the one kid--who comes off as being pretty bright for his age [i.e. stating that what they saw was something "humanoid"]--immediately looks for footprints.)
Ultimate Predator
Apr 9 2007, 07:41 PM
IT IS A HOAX. Do a little research. It has been proven without a shadow of a doubt a hoax.
TimMcmanus
Apr 9 2007, 08:12 PM
QUOTE(Ultimate Predator @ Apr 9 2007, 08:41 PM)

IT IS A HOAX. Do a little research. It has been proven without a shadow of a doubt a hoax.
Sorry. Is it this site's info--
http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptid-universe/va-bf-video2/ --that proves it "without a shadow of a doubt a hoax"? I mean, call me a lousy researcher, but I'm only finding information on it over at Cryptomundo.
Even if it is a hoax, that still doesn't answer my question in the general sense.
Morgoth
May 9 2007, 02:01 PM
A little more on this one, here it is stabilized and slowed down. A little tough to watch, because the camera was flying around.
Also, I DONT think this figure goes down to all fours. Watch it move BEHIND the foliage as it walks away.
In other words, I think the foliage makes it look like it goes down, but watch carefully...
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bartlojays
May 9 2007, 10:22 PM
Great job Morgoth getting it stabilized, it reaffirms what I thought I suspected after watching at regular speed about 15 times, it's likely a hoax based on what T Steenburg has shared, but could be a real squatch. The only thing in my mind that's definitive is that it's bipedal. I just don't see this as being a black bear walking away downhill.
youcan'tseeme
May 10 2007, 05:15 PM
QUOTE(bartlojays @ May 9 2007, 11:22 PM)

Great job Morgoth getting it stabilized, it reaffirms what I thought I suspected after watching at regular speed about 15 times, it's likely a hoax based on what T Steenburg has shared, but could be a real squatch. The only thing in my mind that's definitive is that it's bipedal. I just don't see this as being a black bear walking away downhill.
Agreed, it ain't a bear. Looks a lot more interesting stabliazed!
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