This is not a sighting report, just a brief summary of a 'phone conversation I had yesterday. I can't tell you all the specifics because the people involved don't want any kind of publicity or attention yet, and will most likely do all that on their own when they are ready, if it ever happens. Remember, I have not spoken to anyone in person, just one guy on the telephone, so it could very well all be BS. He's not even sure about it himself. I wouldn't even bring it up, but the guy I spoke with is someone I sort of trust, having had three or four conversations with him. He's a regular guy, not looking to get rich or famous, as far as I can tell.

Apparently, according to this guy's story, some of the powerline workers in Green Swamp (there is a major utility easement that runs through the middle of GS with towers about every 200 yards) have been feeding the "locals" dogfood out there, and they are seeing them pretty regularly. One guy says he's been feeding them carrots, tomatoes, and apples. They don't like the carrots very much. This same guy (not the one I spoke to) says he has pictures, which even show facial features.

He also has some plaster footprint casts that are 15 1/2 inches long, 4 1/2 wide, and had one that was 17 inches long, but lost it to someone in another organization (guess which one) who refuses to return it, saying it is the biggest cast ever made in Florida, so they need to keep it.

My friend has not seen any pictures yet. The guy says he wants to "copyright" them first.

It all sounds a bit suspicious to me, and it's all just secondhand hearsay. If and when I get more information, and permission to talk about it from the people involved, I will let you know.

You never know. Got to start somewhere.

What kind of ethics are involved when they refuse to return property to it's rightful owner?

Do they include a disclaimer that all evidence sent to them becomes their property?

Please tell your friend that all he need do is put his name, the date, and a copyright symbol on the picture. This affords him the full extent of all protection offered by copyright law.

Please hurry :pinch: Can't wait.

This sounds interesting, but I hope these people aren't too involved with above mentioned org.

I just talked to someone who knows a bit more about this area than my other source. He informed me that most of this information is coming through a guy named Eddie Page. Eddie is a known hoaxer, is involved with all kinds of paranormal, ufo stuff, etc.

When I get home later I will post some links about Eddie from my home computer (I can't get to any of it through my computer at work). He said there never was a 17 inch cast, or any pictures. :pinch: These are all fictions created by Eddie.

This new source also informed me that some people with BFRO have been searching in that same area of GS for several years now, but have come up dry in the last couple of years. Apparently there was a group of BF living there about 4-5 years ago, but they may have moved on.

And so the story evolves...

If this is the same person, and I suspect it must be, apparently Eddie is more than just involved with UFO stuff, he is himself an ALIEN HYBRID!!!

Thats right. Who would've think it? We got a psychic alien human hybrid feeding sasquatch dogfood in the swamp. Damn, and I thought that Ivory Billed Woodpecker was big deal! :eek3dance:

http://www.world-famous.com/EddiePageStuff...Page-Chap1.html

You know, now that I think about, the dogfood part should have been a dead give away. No self respecting sasquatch is going to be eating any stinkin' dogfood.

Yep. That's him. Good job finding that site Mystical Hom!

Would someone please PM me the second they see this alien hybrid register on BFF !! I don't imagine I'll think twice about banning him.

Hey Robert, thanks. Just want you to know that I'm not trying to disparage your making of the thread in any way. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to relay the story. And is important to have information like this.

I wonder why they didn't like the carrots?

You got it Big Chief. I suspect we will recognize him by that dogfood bit.

I bet he would make a good read. :drug: :icon_abduct:

Nah better not.

No problem! I'm glad I could be of service! It's important to know about these guys and what they are up to. I will post more when I talk to the original source again.

I've never heard of this guy.
Real piece of work.

"The World's Most Paranormal Site."
You know, just reading the first page, I really can't argue with that claim. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:
"The Amazing True Story of The Eddie Page Story" :glare: ?
So this is the story of the story of Eddie Page?

Eddie wrote all the copy for these pages himself. Read through all of it and you will find a lot of writing errors. I am an English teacher, and I grade essays almost daily (big sigh) so these things jump out at me.

I thought he moved to Uranus :icon_abduct:

Hey, everybody's gotta be something.




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I just wanted to set the story straight on Eddie Page.
I and two other investigators (I'll call them Jim and John, they request that their real names not be used because of their respective careers) spent quite a bit of time with Eddie investigating his purported encounters with Florida SkunkApes.
He claimed to have had multiple very close encounters with them, some right outside his campsite. We contacted him, and had several conversations with him over a couple of weeks. At this point his claims seemed quite credible, and very beleivable. He claimed to have an audio recording of several SunkApes
squabbling over a pile of apples just outside his camp. He claimed that he was a former OSI Agent. He stated that he had prevoiusly investigated bigfoot reports in Texas and Oklahoma. He claimed to have been a helicopter pilot in VietNam, and had beeen shot down, and eluded capture for over a week in the jungle with a captured enemy AK47.
When the time came for us to meet with Eddie, and pick him up and take him out to the area of his reported encounters. He had told us that it will get pretty scary out there, and we had better bring extra pairs of underwear. He stated that we would have to park, and carry in all of our camp gear, recording gear etc. We would have to hike about 2 hours to get there. Now this first trip I was unable to attend, but Jim and John are some of my closest freinds and I respect their judgement and their word.
They got to the area where they had to park, And then it ended up only being about 10 minutes of hiking to the place where Eddie had his camp. He produced his audio tape of what he refered to as the "Intense Hour".
He played the audio tape, and you could clearly hear what sounded like several bigfoot, or skunkapes vocalizing in an agitated state. He said it happened right on the outskirts of his camp, that the skunkapes came in after the apples that he set out. It was very loud, and you could hear Eddie talking over the primate like sounds, describing what he wa seeing. He said there were 5-6 of them. He said he could see their shapes in the darkness. FHe said they were very large. HE then said that a extemely large black shape came int oview and pushed the others away and started eating the apples himself. The big one he called the large male. Then Eddie whispers over the commotion, "I'm going in for a closer look" He states that he walked to within 20 feet of them, and then you can hear a largew growl. He states" the big male just growled at me"! I'm just going to stay here for now. Noises and primater like sounds continue, and after a few minutes, it gets gradually quieter. I recorded this on my camcorder as he played it from his audio recorder.
As time went by and we spent several 3 and 4 day weekends with him out in the Green Swamp, we began hearing him relate to us about many different things about himself, and his life. Many of these topics had different details that didn't add up. So after the second or third weekend with him, Jim decides to hire a private investigator and have her do a background check on Eddie. It was 29 pages long! It had many different aliases, several different social security numbers, as well as various places of employment, and various places of residence over the years. Some of it was right on the mark, and some of it was just differnt enough to through someone off of his track if you read it the wrong way. Some of the discrepencies I will lisrt here. (1) He was never in any branch of the service, let alone being a helicopter pilot. (2) He has used numerous variations of his name: Eddie T. Page, Eddie Paige, T. Eddie Page, Eddie Thomas, Thomas Eddie Page etc. (3) He was never with a secret organization called "OSI." The OSI, was formed to investigate alleged war crimes after WWII in Europe. He claimed to be writing a book. He was going to call it "My Life Amoung The Florida SkunkApes." Alot of things didn't add up.
One day while we were hiking in 90+ degree heat, we walked past a cool spot in the forest. Jim commented that it must have been a thermocline. Eddie said "What's a thermocline?" We just looked a t each other and tried not to laugh at him. Thermoclines are pockets of hotter or cooler air, that rise or fall within the surrounding area. This is what all hangliders look for, so that they can climb thousands of feet into the air. Any good pilot should know this.
Eddie didn't have much in the way of gear or clothes for that matter. The only clothes that he had was an old pair of torn gym shorts, (the seat was torn open in the back), a couple of old tee shirts, and an old pair of dilapidated tennis shoes that were held together by several layers of duct tape. It didn't matter, he was a likeable guy, and for the most part we enjoyed his company and his freindly demeanor. He always had afreindly greating of "Howdy Neighbor!"
We did make quite a few casts of foot prints, some of them in excess of 18"x 9". But some of them apeared to have been tampered with. It seemed that when Eddie found tracks when he had wondered off by himself, they always appeard to be not quite right. Some of them appeared to have had fingerprints imprressed into where the toe prints were. I beleive that the original track was real, but that someone had
tried to make the appear to have better dermal rige details. It seemed like it was always the ones that Eddie found by himself. Later we had a renowned expert examine high quality digital photos of them. He concluded that they had been tampered with also. He reached this conclusion all on his own, without any of us offering any comments before hand.
At the time I did a Google search using Eddie Page as a search string, and found the following links.

http://www.users.qwest.net/%7Eedgein/eddiepage.htm
http://alientattletale.com/eddie_pa...die_page_3.html
http://alientattletale.com/eddie_page/index.html
http://alientattletale.com/eddie_pa...die_page_2.html
http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo...b/m09-018.shtml
http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs...ic.php?pid=6920

The forth link is from a lady in Oklahoma I believe that tried to report some kind of UFO encounter.
At about the 4th paragraph down, you can see where she sais that she was contacted by an "OSI Guy" by the name of Eddie Thomas, and later by the same individual calling himseld Eddie Page.

The picture of Eddie Page on the ailien abduction website is the same Eddie Page that we met in the Green Swamp. One day Jim and John witnessed him throwing the apples out into the forest that we had set out as bait. They watched him from 30 feet away throw and kick them out into the woods, then immediately call us all o nt he walkie talkie. Eddie said, " Hey Guys, you better get over here, the skunkapes took all of the
apples!" Eddie didn't realize that they were sitting not more than 30 feet away from him at the time. When Jim and John confronted him about throwing the apples away and tampering with evidence, he said" Well those were old apples anyway." Then tried to change the subject.
I felt sorry for the guy and took him into WalMart in Lakeland and bought him new shoes, some new shorts and socks. As well as furnished him food, batteries, insect repellant, disposable batteries, gatorade, bags of ice, etc. for probobly close to a month. But before too long we just could not trust him to be out there with us, even if he was within sight of us.
I post this as a warning to any other good hearted person who might feel sorry for him and offer assistance to him in return for his sighting, or information, or even a location to what ever he claims to have going on now. All of this took place well over a year ago, and there has not been any activity in that vicinity in quite some time. He is all about getting attention for himself, trying to find someone willing to sponsor him, or set him up in the woods for an extended period of time, all in the name of research. He does come across a a pretty likeable guy, but before long he will need this, or need that, and soon you will find your self
entangled way deeper than you wanted to be with him.
Oh, I almost forgot. You remember the audio tape that I mentioned in the beginning of this post. Well it did sound scary as s**t! The sounds deffinetly sounded like they were from a larege primate something. After listening to it several times, I realized it sounded familiar. Then it hit me where I had heard it before. It was a recording of the "big male" on the Seierra Sounds CD. Eddie had recorded it, and then pretended to be around them when it happened. You could hear the sound of the tape being clicked on and off several times as he was telling about them being just 20 feet away from him. He sounds breathless and totally scared. All the while his commentary is iterspersed whith the howls, grunts, and chatter from the Sierra Sounds CD.
I have a video recording of me interveiwing him as he is playing this audio recording to me. And I got to tell you, he should get an Academy Award for his performance!
If any of you have been contacted by Eddie PAge, associate yourdelf with him at your own risk.
And if Mr. Page would care to register here on this site and discuss this openly, I would welcome any dialogue with you.
Pat

:doh: :doh: :doh: What else is there to say!? . . .at least he's imaginative.

You hung out with this guy for a month? Why?

Umm-the OSI was a fictional agency that Steve Austin, the six million dollar man worked for.

Now that is a very good question. After catching him hoaxing, I would have been out of there. Depending on how much money and time I wasted on this guy, I would have left a corresponding number of lumps on his head.

Good lord...

Well that is a very good question, let me try to explain. When he first filed his report, he requested that we
keep it confidential, and not bring any one else out, we tried to honor that agreement. And remember, all of the instances of deception didn't happen on the first day. It took a little while to realize that things didn't add up with him. Even though he apparently was liyning about his personal history, there was so much action going on around us that we just wanted to stay busy trying to collect the evidence. It soon became obvious
that we we camping in an area that had at least 5 individual animals in the very near viscinity.
Even though he turned out to be a pathological lier, there was so much activity going on we had our hands full.
There were tracks every where. Every time we walked down a trail there were new tracks. Sometimes
we would check a trail 2-3 times a day. Almost always there were new tracks, that werent there just a few hours ago. At first we tried to cast most of them. Then it becam expensive and hard to keep a supply of Dental Stone in camp. So we had to become more selective about casting only the really good tracks. We started only casting tracks that had really good details, with dermal ridges. Several times while hiking down trails, we would almost run into one of them. We had 2 visual sightings.We collectively adapted a new stratagy. One of us would keep Eddie with us at all times. We took turns baby sitting him, making sure that we kept him in sight at all times. There was soo much going on, we just wanted to spend as much time out there as possible.
Pat

Rams;

The "OSI" is NOT a fictional agency, and there are two of them. One belongs to the justice department and was originally formed to investigate war criminals, mainly former Nazi members. It is still around but pretty quiet.

The second OSI belongs to the Department of Defense, United States Air Force. That was the OSI in the television show and to the best of my knowledge, we didn't have Bionic arms. My OSI retired credentials hang on my wall along with my decorations. My arms and legs are flesh and blood. But my former OSI buddies would be hurt to know they were fictitional.

Dan

Oh lord, I know exactly what you mean. I had something similiar happen with a 'researcher'.

Thanks for sharing this with us Pat.

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Could i just see a picture first please ??? :biggrin: :biggrin:

In fact i've just seen the link that was posted earlier & Eddie is now unfortunately planted in my head !!!

Dan, my deepest apologies.

After I posted I did remember that the Air Force OSI is indeed an actual agency. I would be fairly sure after seeing his website that the guy in question in this post however fancies himself a member of the OSI (Office of Strategic Intelligence) of Steve Austin and Oscar Goldman fame.

And of course we can't mention Steve Austin without noting the memorable appearance of you-know-who on the TV show "The Six Million Dollar Man" ... Thats right... Its

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BIONIC BIGFOOT everybody! HELLO! :new_lmaosmiley: :eek3dance:

OK, well we are having our fun with this thread, but I don't want to overlook anything because of it. Pat said some interesting things other than the information about psychic alien hybrid Eddie. So lets look at that a bit closer:

Really now?!



So you determined that the visual sightings were not hybrid Eddie? And did you determine the nature of the tracks? Please elaborate!


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Yeah, I was under the assumption that all the tracks were being faked by Eddie. Now, you're saying that you were finding other tracks and sightings too? And almost running into them?? Say what?

I am confused now, I thought all tracks were the results of Eddie hoaxing. How do you come to the conclusion that there were at least 5 individual animals in the vicinity?

Getting slightly off topic here..but... Actually, the OSI or U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigation is a real federal law enforcement agency. Every military branch has their own...Navy NCIS Army CID...etc.

Sorry...my two cents.

And this Eddie fellow...nuttier than a squirrel turd!!! Just my opinion!

DOH...must remember...read the entire thread before jumping in!!! Good catch Dan!!!

I might too aggressive for the forum, but iI would have staked him to the ground and left some raw meat. PROLEM SOLVED

And as for the CSI, use wood to stake him down. After a week there would be no evidence to link you to the site.

I spoke with Pat on the telephone for about 25 minutes about this. Mostly the conversation was about Eddie. They were actually finding a lot of tracks, some of which had been "enhanced" by Eddie (he was pressing his fingers into the toes to make them more distinct) but most of which were apparently genuine. Why it was not reported at the time on the BFRO site, or if it was, I don't know. I don't think much has been reported about it, not sure why.

Pat also told me he has been back there, and some others have also been back there, and have found nothing in the last couple of years, ever since the water has gone down. It's been dry here in the last two years. It seems the BF like the swampy wetlands, and when they dry up, they move on.

Did he have a trashed arcade bowling game? If so, he's here.

DR

Tell him the photos are worth millions, and you know just the guy who will pay.

Then wait for the show................

Thanks for the snot bubbles, Huntster... :laugh:

The OSI was a post WWII Dept. of Justice organization created to deal with Nazis who had escaped Allied troops and who continued anti-semetic operations:



The OSI was one of the several "agencies" which ended up being consolidated into the CIA after WWII.

Hunt;

The Department of Justice OSI is still active and while it may fall under the umbrella of another agency, it is not the CIA. The CIA is a non-domestic agency, while the DOJ OSI still actively investigates former Nazis living in the US who may have backgrounds that constitute war crimes. You may be thinking of the OSS.

The other OSI is also very active. I served with it for a long time. It was founded in 1948. Special Agent Joseph Carroll, an assistant to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover became OSI's first commander. The organization and its training was modeled after the FBI. Some of the training schools run by OSI are actually attended by agents from other federal agencies and foreign countries. It's a pretty good organization. Many of its first officers were old OSS types. They know where the bodies are buried...but unfortunately not Bigfoot.

Dan

How many Nazis war criminals could be left alive in the US? Seems like they should change their brief to investigating bigfoot sightings, at least they could get some exercise while they wait for the next 90 year old Nazi war criminal to surface.

Mystical Hominid,
Yes we were able to determine that the visual sightings were not Eddie. When I had my sighting, Eddie was standing next to me and the skunkape (I think a male) was 30'-0" in front of us. When Jim had his sighting, Eddie was several miles away, and it was John's day to babysit Eddie. So there was never any assumption that Eddie was involved in hoaxing any sightings.

As far as determining that there were at least 5 individuals, That was easy to determine. Quite a few of the
tracks that we observed and took castings of had individual characteristics. We observed what appeared to be 3 individuals that seemed to always be together. One was around 18x9, the next was around 15x7, and the smaller tracks were 13x6, if memory serves me right. We named these individuals Mom, Dad, and Junior. Then there was 2 others that were always alone. One had a curved foot, that we named Slewfoot. The other had a big toe that stick out to the side. We named him Hammer Toe. We would find these suspected bigfoot tracks almost on a daily basis, in an area approximately 10-12 square miles. Some of the tracks, and I do mean just a few of them did appear to be enhanced. And we did suspect Eddie of doing this.

Pat

Whoops! You're right. Despite my ability to speak the official language of "government acronyms", I got my acronyms twisted up!



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Pat you and your buddies managed to run a succesful hunt while babysitting pathological lair who does hoaxs and may very will be crazy impressive. Did you get him a bionic bigfoot to play with ?

Yeah but you can't blame him, English is his second language. He is from the Plaedian star system.

Pat



Need to talk to you about "Eddie Page" have sent e-mails, IMs etc . . . please contact me ASAP.

Thanks,
Frank

One big thing always comes to mind dealing with evidence and the possibility of the hard evidence science needs. Consider the Ga. hoax as the "War of the Worlds" for sasquatch - it's clear in hindsight the reaction of people to such a claim. With that said, if/when a body is produced it will be met with the same degree of skepticism we all saw when that claim was made before...that is until it is independently confirmed to be, in fact, an uncatalogued creature.

Until all human eyes can gaze upon a sasquatch or a good sized chunk of one that has been confirmed by scientists as something worthy of a new 'formal' Latin name, and able to be viewed without restriction for scientists and non-scientists alike, I personally understand where many of the logical skeptics come from. Every sighting, every cast, every picture both still and motion will be up for debate.

I preemptively apologize for the following minor threadjack, and I won't acknowledge the subject further on this specific thread for that reason (I will gladly on the proper thread), but the world needs a body.

Frank, have you tried to PM me yet?

Not working . . . I believe it's because I'm a "new" member . . .

Frank

frank_warren55@yahoo.com