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darkwinglh
I am posting this to give everyone an update on how things went as I know them during this last weekend. Please do not let this break down like the other thread, and if you don’t have anything worthwhile to ask, comment or whatever, don’t waste my time or yours be making crappy comments. If you have something worthwhile to ask or comment, I will respond, but if you come on here saying BS this or that without anything to back it up, you will be ignored.

Driver, Ole Bub, myself, my wife and another researcher named Gary all met in town to eat lunch and discuss all things Bigfoot.

We then traveled in caravan to the landowner’s house; where Gary listened to the landowner explain all the events that had occurred in the area.

Driver, Ole Bub and myself retrieved Driver’s cuddlebacks (Swwweeeetttt little cameras) and found some possible game trails that would be great to check out sometime.

After that, we traveled down to the field where 7 Bigfoot were seen on the same night by multiple witnesses.

Setting up camp, we positioned my Blazer about 100 feet out towards the middle of the field and erected a dining fly over the backend, to protect the DVR from the elements. (And also so that it would be a curious looking ensemble that might attract Bigfoot’s curiosity. The landowner bought a RV trailer a few years ago, and had a suspected Bigfoot walk around it at night, slapping it with an open hand. Kind of like curious about what it was.)

Driver positioned his truck in the tree line, so he could possibly spot any Bigfoot staying within the tree-line and circling us. His position also let him view a good portion of the creek bed that circled around the field, about 50 to 100 feet inside the tree-line.

Gary parked his vehicle further to the east in the same manner.

A camera was run about 100 feet out from the Blazer to the south, to cover the area where a large male had been seen running across the field. Another camera was position to the south west about 100 feet from the vehicle.

A 3rd camera was run down into the creek bed where it could cover the baiting stations left along the opposite bank from us.

With the possibility of rain later, we took a brand new tarp and covered the table where the DVR system was set at.

With this accomplished, Driver set out his cuddleback cameras on the other side of the creek where a large male had come up and was seen by 6 witnesses with night vision had seen it.

Baiting stations, based on pinwheels and neon green tennis b*lls (gifts to them) were placed along a stretch of creek bed and banks to the west of the area. And basic recon was done by individuals, just to get an idea of the short term surrounding area.

Ole Bub then headed out for home, due to the dropping temperature and his health conditions, but he was out there hoofing it with us younger folks, doing what he could to help set things up.

When everything was situated, Driver took us on a short hike, (about 4 miles) in an arc to the north of our position to show us an area where a hut-like structure had been discovered by the landowner about 15 years ago, and destroyed (Because he didn’t know better back then) because he had seen large feet sticking out of the entrance.

We also looked at some beaver dens that had certain sections of their tunnels dug out, and from the scratch marks, it was coyote that was digging them out.

Upon returning to the creek bed on the way back, Gary showed everyone a “possible” track he and Ole Bub had found on their short recon. The outline looked good, but it was still only a good possible.

Getting back to the camp area, Driver had to get some sleep (He’d been up the night before working a fire, before coming out.) and with the setting of the sun, the temp was already dropping down to the 21 degrees it would stay the rest of the night at. But as everyone started to get some early rest for the long night, vocalizations off in the distance could be heard. I would compare it to the Wildman scream I’ve heard so many times down in one of my research areas, they were coming out of the game preserve.

Around 10 pm, the vocalizations were now close up to the creek area, (will see if the DVR recorded the screams to post) and continued the rest of the night. We had what sounded like a bunch of apes screaming and yelling, a cross between a pig squeeling/peacock call, coyotes, and odds and ends.

About 2 am, I seen something on all fours come walking by the Blazer, almost half as long, and the back was several inches above the bottom window sill. It was going from southwest to northeast in direction. At that, it would have walked in between the cameras in front of the Blazer and right between Driver and Gary’s vehicles. The front of the creature was higher than the back end, and reminded me somewhat of a silverback gorilla. Not completely like a silverback, but just that type of impression.

At 2:20 am, my wife had to use the bathroom so after seeing the big creature walk past, I had her turn on the vehicle lights so we didn’t open the doors and find it sitting right there behind us. When the lights came on, Gary heard something large hit the creek bed with his bionic ear and retreat across the other side.

After getting back in, the frost started coming down and the ground froze, making the dead grass noisy to walk on. Several times after 3 am, my wife and I heard something coming around us. 6 different times, something lifted the side of the dining fly, or reached through the netting and tried moving the tarp over the table, there was no wind blowing at all, so I can rule the wind ruffling it out. This new tarp actually made a lot of noise because of it’s new crispiness. Each time, I would shine a light out the back window to discourage what it was. I didn’t want the DVR system to get damaged. Each time it would come back within 15 to 20 minutes and do it again.

With the temperature drop, the windows began icing over at 4:30 am, and after the last time of the tarp being moved I noticed a handprint on the window near where the dining fly draped over the side of the Blazer, this is where I thought what ever was disturbing the tarp was coming up at. After closer examination though, it was discovered to be where my grandson had put his hand on the window, and the body oil he left behind was not allowing the window to freeze up all the way there. Man, really thought we had a good print of a juvenile coming up there.

Anyway, at about 5:30 am, the cold got to be too much, so everyone began cranking their engines over to warm up. After building a fire back up, we discussed the night’s events, and my wife cooked up some eggs, bacon and biscuits for us. We gather up the cameras and found the one to the southwest had been knocked over, something had apparently caught the cord running back to the Blazer and knocked the camera down on it’s side. With over 35 hours plus of video to review, I think we can find what time it occurred by watching the video.

After getting everything packed up, we traveled to another point on the landowners property and hiked down into an area he had nicknamed Monkey Island. (Because it looks so much like the Chimp Island at Zoos, with old trees broken, fallen down, etc.)

Here we had traveled about 200 feet into the area, a whistle began up and continued until we finally left the area about an hour later. We found tree twists, where the twist was about 8-10 feet high on the tree. Now we are talking full blown, twists in the 360 degree type. We found several possible trails being used by the local Bigfoot, as tree limbs as high up as 10 feet off the ground could be seen down the length of the trail, where it had been recently used.

We also found several suspected nesting areas, in which we plan on going back to stake out when it is a little warmer.

We searched for tracks along the creek that runs the length of the area, and this creek is the same one where we spent the night.

Once back to the campsite, we went out and checked the bait stations, gift stations and the cuddlebacks and then decided that it was time to head in, the cold was down right bone biting.

Gary, my wife and I, headed out about 1 pm Sunday, Driver was going to go visit the landowners and then decide what he was going to do afterwards.

After I made it home, about 5:30 PM, I got a call from Driver, he was nearly down to Sulpher where he was going to research until Friday.

My conclusion to the events of Saturday night/Sunday morning, I believe a small hunting party passed through our area, foraging for food due to the cold, leaving the rest of the local clan behind where they were hunkered down at. JMHO

Driver is a class A researcher in my book, he shares his information unselfishly, listens to others information and ideas, and I think I will really enjoy working with him on further projects. One thing he and I agree on is that we have to start thinking outside the box. Everything that has been tried before without any success, we push to the side and look at other options.

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Map Layout to give everyone a better idea of the area.

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Gary, Driver, Darkwinglh and Darkwing's Wife

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Group of mean looking researchers

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Driver looking off one of the many cliff faces in the area.

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Darkwinglh's Dinging FLy before the DVR was turned on.

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Driver in his Ghillie Suit.
Robert
This is awesome! You guys are doing a heroic job out there in that icy cold weather, and it sounds like you are really close to getting some hard evidence. I can hardly wait to see what the DVR shows!
Robert
Also, excuse me if I mised this, but are your DVRs outfitted with night vision?
darkwinglh
QUOTE(Robert @ Feb 12 2007, 10:43 AM) *
Also, excuse me if I mised this, but are your DVRs outfitted with night vision?


The DVR cameras have built-in illuminators that show outwards to 30 feet really clear and about another 20 feet it starts diminishing on the brightness. When reviewing the video, we always brighten up the video to see what we can see in the background.
mkianni
Thank you for the update darkwinglh, I wish you all the best of luck in the time you have remaining out there.

I do have one question about the cameras, is the cold weather you are experiencing going to have any negative affects on them? Sorry, I have no field experience with electronics.
darkwinglh
mkianni,
The cameras being used are outdoor cameras, so they seemed to have faired pretty good out there.
micahn
Thanks for the great update. It sounds like you all might have a real good area there to do some research in.
saycheez
Thanks for checking in... have fun and stay safe.
FredSneakers/David
Excuse me as well for not having much field experience yet, but was it possiple to lift prints from the disturbed tarp and what not?

Thanks for sharing, very exciting!
slewfoot
Thanks for the update darkwinglh, sounds like you had a good time. Keep us posted.
imposter1298
that was a great report. i wish more were that way. i can't wait to see more pics from u guys. thank you for sharing with all of us.

good luck to all of you. be careful.

I was wondering, if you hung out some bells or something like that, would bf play with them? i have read they are very curious creatures. maybe hanging them up might intrigue them.
darkwinglh
QUOTE(imposter1298 @ Feb 12 2007, 10:43 PM) *
that was a great report. i wish more were that way. i can't wait to see more pics from u guys. thank you for sharing with all of us.

good luck to all of you. be careful.

I was wondering, if you hung out some bells or something like that, would bf play with them? i have read they are very curious creatures. maybe hanging them up might intrigue them.



i am planning on hanging some wind chimes out to see if that would work
Drew
Darkwing, there was a documentary in OK, where they took a news lady out in the woods at night, and then started shooting at something up on the hill. Were you involved in the making of that documentary? I swear that was you in that, but maybe it was just another guy from the OK.
darkwinglh
QUOTE(Drew @ Feb 13 2007, 06:59 AM) *
Darkwing, there was a documentary in OK, where they took a news lady out in the woods at night, and then started shooting at something up on the hill. Were you involved in the making of that documentary? I swear that was you in that, but maybe it was just another guy from the OK.


No Drew, I swear on my bible, that wasn't me. The guy looked like me, but that is as far as that went.

But nice catch, I didn't think of that until you mentioned it.
watch1
A picture says a thousand words.

This is the way to document everything. Great job. You have the pictures with the dates on them. You are out in the woods and everything looks just as you say it is. This lets everyone know that you are NOT just making this stuff up setting in front of your computer. You are out in the field doing the hard part of this research.

Thanks for sharing.

Mike (watch1)
Deano2331
Great work guys, I am glad to see more people getting out there and looking instead of just reading, anyway what type of bait was used? and did they take any of it or the gifts? did you do any type of call blasting or tree knocking? do you have any pics of the tree twists to post? i can not wait to see what the equipment turns up with.

also i have been thinking if riging up some kind of led ir light ball and placing it in front of the cameras might increase their range. just an idea. thanks again for sharing you reasurch

Deano
JayleeD
QUOTE(Drew @ Feb 13 2007, 06:59 AM) *
Darkwing, there was a documentary in OK, where they took a news lady out in the woods at night, and then started shooting at something up on the hill. Were you involved in the making of that documentary? I swear that was you in that, but maybe it was just another guy from the OK.



That would be 'Bigfootville'. A search here will lead to a few thread about the doc.
imposter1298
QUOTE(darkwinglh @ Feb 13 2007, 06:49 AM) *
i am planning on hanging some wind chimes out to see if that would work



i was wondering also if you put out some doe scent with that. might cover up any odor that might deter bf. also, how bout building your own bf shelter out of logs and branches. put some scent on it and see. maybe bf might take some of the shelter. or, of course, use it for the night. be interesting to see what bf would do with something he didn't construct. or maybe, even put up a ball on a rope. stupid things are popping in my head. you said you wanted to think outside the box.

too bad you can't put a tracking device inside something. now that would be awesome.

good luck
BFskinner
Good update DW. Don't worry about crappy comments, just keep on posting. There are those of us here who appreciate what you, Driver, Ole Bub and Gary are doing. Kudos to the wife too, for helping out. You men just might get something accomplished with some female guidence. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:
scotto
QUOTE(Drew @ Feb 13 2007, 06:59 AM) *
Darkwing, there was a documentary in OK, where they took a news lady out in the woods at night, and then started shooting at something up on the hill. Were you involved in the making of that documentary? I swear that was you in that, but maybe it was just another guy from the OK.


The guy that looked like him was my friend Don.

I interviewed him and did a report for his sighting in Oklahoma for SRI.
Orygun
QUOTE(watch1 @ Feb 13 2007, 07:14 AM) *
You have the pictures with the dates on them. You are out in the woods and everything looks just as you say it is. This lets everyone know that you are NOT just making this stuff up setting in front of your computer.


As we have seen ten billion times here, you should never believe what you can see.

Time stamps can be faked in mere minutes along with everything else you see.
LaurieB2851
QUOTE(darkwinglh @ Feb 12 2007, 10:05 AM) *
About 2 am, I seen something on all fours come walking by the Blazer, almost half as long, and the back was several inches above the bottom window sill. It was going from southwest to northeast in direction. At that, it would have walked in between the cameras in front of the Blazer and right between Driver and Gary’s vehicles. The front of the creature was higher than the back end, and reminded me somewhat of a silverback gorilla. Not completely like a silverback, but just that type of impression.


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Map Layout to give everyone a better idea of the area.




The figure that walked by your Blazer, was it out of range of the cameras? Also, considering the posture of said figure, it would amost appear that was an attempt to conceal itself below the windows of the Blazer. Would I be correct in guessing that your windows were not covered at the time? Having had a Blazer about the size of yours, I am going to guesstimate the height of the figure (on all fours) to be at least 3-1/2 feet tall by about 5 feet long. Does that sound about right?

Also, your having viewed the figure is there a reason that Driver decided to leave for his next destination? Was the figure viewed by Driver or Gary at all? It sounds like there was some success at that location.

Thanks much for sharing!
darkwinglh
QUOTE(LaurieB2851 @ Feb 14 2007, 05:03 AM) *
The figure that walked by your Blazer, was it out of range of the cameras? Also, considering the posture of said figure, it would amost appear that was an attempt to conceal itself below the windows of the Blazer. Would I be correct in guessing that your windows were not covered at the time? Having had a Blazer about the size of yours, I am going to guesstimate the height of the figure (on all fours) to be at least 3-1/2 feet tall by about 5 feet long. Does that sound about right?

Also, your having viewed the figure is there a reason that Driver decided to leave for his next destination? Was the figure viewed by Driver or Gary at all? It sounds like there was some success at that location.

Thanks much for sharing!



Well Laurie, I'm still reviewing the video to see if by chance it did walk by one of the cameras, but Gary did hear something big go crashing through the woods in about the same time frame.

I don't like covering up my windows, I like to see all around me, and since they are tinted, unless a light is on inside the blazer, it is hard to see in. Your guestimate is in the ballpark. This thing was about half the length of the blazer even from the distance it was at.

My initial impression was that it was scouting out the vehicles and the camp, trying to figure out what the heck was the dining fly doing mounted on the back of the blazer.

Driver had thought about staying another night there, but the weather was just too cold. His other location he was going to is about 300 or so miles to the south. A little warmer to say the least. But there may have been other reasons too, we will have to ask him when he gets back.
Robert
DW,

Have you had a chance to review the video yet? Just wondering.
darkwinglh
QUOTE(Robert @ Feb 14 2007, 07:32 AM) *
DW,

Have you had a chance to review the video yet? Just wondering.



I have about 6 hours of it done, it will probably be all done by this weekend. The video is captured in 15 minute segments, and I have to brighten each clip to see further into the background, so it takes a bit of time on each one.
LaurieB2851
Hi darkwinglh!

I hear you on the better temps going further south. I don't blame Driver for that one bit. I can imagine how much time it's going to take going through some relatively dark film also. It looked like you had the cameras set up pretty darned good. Good luck on that. It couldn't have been a very convenient and actually maybe not a safe thing for your wife to have nature call inside a Blazer either. :laugh: Those Blazers do not lend themselves to being very comfy to move around in and I can understand why the lights went on. Us ladies were not built for convenience in that department. That is for sure. We had the windows in our Blazer tinted also in the back portion. It works out really well when you're stopping at a few stores when you're shopping and no one can see what's in the vehicle if you have more errands to run and have to leave stuff in there while you do so.

Laurie
Bf believer
If Driver came south hoping for warm weather he may be disappointed. I'm approximately 25 miles north of Sulphur and it's a balmy 23F here.

I try to get down to the Arbuckles to look around at least once a week. I sure hope he finds something.
Ty
QUOTE(darkwinglh @ Feb 13 2007, 07:49 AM) *
i am planning on hanging some wind chimes out to see if that would work


Why bother with wind chimes and pinwheels?...the alleged Bigfoot in your encounters appear to come unprovoked or out of the mere curiousness of your presence.

Your conundrum seems to be documenting proof of these extraordinary claims.
darkwinglh
QUOTE(Ty @ Feb 14 2007, 07:30 PM) *
Why bother with wind chimes and pinwheels?...the alleged Bigfoot in your encounters appear to come unprovoked or out of the mere curiousness of your presence.

Your conundrum seems to be documenting proof of these extraordinary claims.


Trying to go through 35 to 45 hours of video is time consuming, not the least, hard on the eyes. ANyone that thinks they can sit in one sitting and view that much video without sitting back to rest the eyes is full of it.
Ty
QUOTE(darkwinglh @ Feb 14 2007, 09:25 PM) *
Trying to go through 35 to 45 hours of video is time consuming, not the least, hard on the eyes. ANyone that thinks they can sit in one sitting and view that much video without sitting back to rest the eyes is full of it.


That I understand...and I as you hope there is a clear portion of video of what was allegedly stalking your camp.
The Cod Father
Hi Darkwing and co.
What an awsome expeience you must have had . I relaay hope that you are planning to go back when it warms up and the weather isn't so against you . W ow what a great collection of encounters you had in just that 1 night. I can't wait to see some pics of what you have from the cameras or even some of of the area you were in . From what you said about Driver going on south for the week you were not at the area where he had the BF's in the back of his truck ? That also is a report I amreally looking forward to reading . Thanks for getting out and doing this kind of field work and keeping our hopes alive .
TCF
JohnWS
QUOTE(Ty @ Feb 15 2007, 01:30 AM) *
Your conundrum seems to be documenting proof of these extraordinary claims.

Indeed - as DW had to say eighteen months ago..... LINK

It would seem to be proving a monumental challenge. That's four & a half years. Let's hope the end result is worth all the effort.

Edit: Grammer/clarity
darkwinglh
QUOTE(JohnWS @ Feb 15 2007, 03:23 AM) *
Indeed - as DW had to say eighteen months ago..... LINK

It would seem to be proving a monumental challenge. That's four & a half years. Let's hope the end result is worth all the effort.

Edit: Grammer/clarity


Yea, hopefully it will be worth it, but look at John Green, Rene Dahindren, Peter Byrne and all the rest of the legends, they have been at it for many decades, and haven't caught one yet. So 4 1/2 years, I don't feel like it's a wasted effort, ask me in 20 years, and I will reevaluate my answer then. :biggrin:
slewfoot
four and a half years is a considerable investment in time and expenses. I would guess that you are the only one that can determine if it is worth the effort. I wouldn't worry too much what others think.
imposter1298
36hrs. of film would be too much for any mortal being. Precision and dilligence are the names of the game. Take your time and make it worth the while. good luck
mkianni
QUOTE(JohnWS @ Feb 15 2007, 04:23 AM) *
Indeed - as DW had to say eighteen months ago..... LINK

It would seem to be proving a monumental challenge. That's four & a half years. Let's hope the end result is worth all the effort.

Edit: Grammer/clarity


Thank you for posting that link, interesting reading.
driveroperator
Hello everyone,
Things have sure escalated around here. too bad! Anyways, i am at Darkwings house right now waiting for him to get home from work so we can go over some pictures. have been out in his area's last night and for the next few nights. will not be back into full swing of checking back in to the forums until after i get back home on sunday, or a couple days later. have had some slow nights, because of the temps. but have also had some interesting things happen. got some recordings from the chickisaw park, and seems to be an exact owl call i recorded last year during encounter. got what i believe was a hand print from the park, i will post picture and relate why and where i found it. Also talked to an older gentleman walking through the park ( about 80 years old) he said he has seen a bigfoot in the park, i will tell the conversation with him later. Have alot of photo's to go over with Darkwing tonight, am hoping Ole bub can join us in a day or two.
Driver
mkianni
Looking forward to hearing what the older gentleman experienced.
Sounds interesting.
Thanks again for you and DW checking in with info. Good luck!
driveroperator
YOU GUYS ARE NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS!!!!
After going over some video taken on our first night at my research area, something picked up one of the camera's and held it for over 40 seconds and then put it back down on its side, back on the stump!! we will be going back there tomorrow for a couple of days before i head home.
Driver


At the same time or a couple seconds before, another camera was jolted. so we can assume something caught the cord of the one that was jolted as it crossed the field to the other one and picked it up.
Orygun
You don't mind, um, posting the video, eh?
dragonridge
:new_lmaosmiley:
Wow ! that's great ...It's makes my hair stand up on end... fingers crossed you guys can get something...yes!
driveroperator
FREAKY!!!!
things like that just drive me harder.
driver
Blackdog
Why do I have a feeling that this will be a long, long wait?
Deano2331
you seem bitter BD.

Driver can't wait till you or DW get some pics or video posted, keep up the fire,

Deano
Orygun
QUOTE(watch1 @ Feb 15 2007, 08:40 PM) *
After the recording was started and you could hear us leave and drive off..then about 30 min. into the recording ..hear sounds of foot steps in leaves. Silence for a few min. and then the dish is turned real slow and then back. You can hear the squeeking noise it makes when turned. Then there is this strange voice that says "hogwash" and you can hear it walk off.

That..freaked me out ..thats all I can say about it. Believe it or not..It happened. I did not keep the recording of this. This was the first time I had heard something talk on the recordings like that and I deleted the whole recording..because..like I said..it was just to freaky to handle..this being the first time.

Mike (watch1)


Why would that be freaky? Did you assume that you were the only one out there?
darkwinglh
Something picks up the camera

Something catches the cord and moves the camera

The area we were in is about a mile from the road, behind a locked fence and we were the only ones in the field, we had just settled down in our vehicles due to the extreme cold about an hour earlier. While whatever picked up the camera didn't turn it on itself, Driver and I believe it could see the infrared light being emitted off the camera itself and kept it turned away.

We are heading back to that area today, to set up the cameras again, this time we are staying out all weekend in hopes of getting something on the DVR, this time we are also setting up the sound on the DVR to record too.

You can bash us all you want about a so-called long wait Black Dog, but comments like that is why most people don't post this kind of stuff on the BFF anymore.

If you have problems with Youtube saying the video is unavailable, keep trying, Youtube had a few problems last night when the folks over at Stan's tried to view it.
slewfoot
I guess the next step is to point the cameras at each other to catch whatever is moving them.
Robert
QUOTE(slewfoot @ Feb 16 2007, 08:06 AM) *
I guess the next step is to point the cameras at each other to catch whatever is moving them.


I agree with Slew, point them at each other.

Impossible to tell what moved the one, but I doubt a deer would reach his hoof over and pick up a camera. :biggrin:

I wish I know something more about IR radiation. Maybe you could shield it somehow so that they would not be able to tell the source? I don't know.

This is getting really interesting.

Oh, BTW, just watching those two short clips gives us an idea of how incredibly boring it must be to wacth 30+ hours of a static shot of woods.

You are to be commended for your sticktoitiveness.
Blackdog
QUOTE(darkwinglh @ Feb 16 2007, 06:40 AM) *
The area we were in is about a mile from the road, behind a locked fence and we were the only ones in the field, we had just settled down in our vehicles due to the extreme cold about an hour earlier. While whatever picked up the camera didn't turn it on itself, Driver and I believe it could see the infrared light being emitted off the camera itself and kept it turned away.

Are you suggesting that bigfoot knew it was a camera and didn't want to be seen on YouTube?
Or are you suggesting that it was afraid of the infrared light for some reason? How would a bigfoot acquire a fear of infrared lights? If that were the case why would it even approach the camera?
If it approached from behind the camera, how did it see the IR? And why would it gently place it back down instead of chucking it across the field?

I'm sorry but neither video shows anything remotely associated with a bigfoot IMHO.

QUOTE
You can bash us all you want about a so-called long wait Black Dog, but comments like that is why most people don't post this kind of stuff on the BFF anymore.

Thanks, but I don't need your permission. If you can't take criticism maybe you shouldn't be posting your reports and films here. I'm not saying you shouldn't, I'm just going by what it says here and here. I have a right to question anything that is presented here.
That's an old and tired rebuttal. I'd rather see something substantial but that's just me.
You have a hell of a lot more supporters than detractors so just relax, you're getting the attention you're looking for.
Orygun
I do have to say that this was not worth showing. It absolutely shows nothing. Both cameras were "disturbed" and what/whoever did it managed to completely stay out of the field of view? Those critters are smarter than we thought.

I couldn't pick up any audio on the YouTube. Is it there? Was it removed?

Was the "hogwash" edited out? huh.gif
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