1) If one ever wanted to try and take down a BF, a Bradley is the way to go.
2) Thought it interesting that the follow-up talked more about the investigator's sighting than the witness.
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=17089
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Found this tonight. Two notes about this report:
1) If one ever wanted to try and take down a BF, a Bradley is the way to go.
2) Thought it interesting that the follow-up talked more about the investigator's sighting than the witness.
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=17089
1) If one ever wanted to try and take down a BF, a Bradley is the way to go.
2) Thought it interesting that the follow-up talked more about the investigator's sighting than the witness.
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=17089
Interesting.
The first thing that caught my attention was these 2 contradicting statements.
Does one of these bad boy Bradley fighting vehicles have more than one hatch?
And this:
I understand what he's saying, but how can you tell, with a thermal viewer, if you are seeing a subject fully unclothed or a subject fully clothed? Couldn't a uniform heat signature come from either...as long as it's uniform I mean?
The first thing that caught my attention was these 2 contradicting statements.
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The driver had the hatch closed and was using a night vision device to view the road.
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The vehicle commander was standing up out of the hatch looking through night vision monoculars.
Does one of these bad boy Bradley fighting vehicles have more than one hatch?
And this:
QUOTE(BFRO Investigator Stephen Willis)
This confirms my own observation with a thermal viewer during the BFRO's 2006 Redwoods expedition (Northern California). The creature I saw was very tall and had a uniform heat signature. It had none of the bright spots seen on humans in clothes. Humans in clothes (costumes would reveal the same patterns) show noticeable variations in surface temperature. Exposed skin stands out brightly while the loose parts of clothing are cooler and darker . The figure observed with the thermal sight in Georgia showed the same characteristics I observed in the California Redwoods -- a uniform insulation density.
I understand what he's saying, but how can you tell, with a thermal viewer, if you are seeing a subject fully unclothed or a subject fully clothed? Couldn't a uniform heat signature come from either...as long as it's uniform I mean?
The vehicle commander is the dude with his head out the very top, the driver is lower up front and hard to see if he doesnt have his head showing.
Yes. The driver is in the hull of the vehicle while the commander and gunner are in the turret.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m2.htm
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/m2.htm
OK. Does the driver have a hatch and the commander have a hatch? Seperate ones I mean.
Edit - from looking at the pics I guess they do both have a hatch! :laugh:
Thanks!
Edit - from looking at the pics I guess they do both have a hatch! :laugh:
Thanks!
Yes.
The driver sits in his own compartment in the hull of the Bradley and is separated from everyone else. The commander and gunner share the turret. Each of the crew has his own hatch for ingress/egress. In addition, the door on the rear of the vehicle opens to allow a squad (6 men) of soldiers to deploy in relative safety behind the vehicle. It sounds like they were only training on the evening in question with the crew and that an infantry squad was not present.
Have to admit, a Bradley can give one a pretty secure feeling when in the presence of the big guy...
The driver sits in his own compartment in the hull of the Bradley and is separated from everyone else. The commander and gunner share the turret. Each of the crew has his own hatch for ingress/egress. In addition, the door on the rear of the vehicle opens to allow a squad (6 men) of soldiers to deploy in relative safety behind the vehicle. It sounds like they were only training on the evening in question with the crew and that an infantry squad was not present.
Have to admit, a Bradley can give one a pretty secure feeling when in the presence of the big guy...
By the way, the main armament is the 25mm chain gun capable of 200 rounds per minute. It also has a 7.62 machine gun and 2 TOW antitank missiles (the box on the left side of the turret).
Looks pretty safe to me...that's is if your in the woods/swamp in a tank and run into or have a chance to give
BF a chase the Bradley appears to be a good retreat hole once he's nice and mad. BF could out run a tank
this size easily through the woods without ammo involved would be my guess. That was just 1 cent worth of
info. maybe less...
BF a chase the Bradley appears to be a good retreat hole once he's nice and mad. BF could out run a tank
this size easily through the woods without ammo involved would be my guess. That was just 1 cent worth of
info. maybe less...
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Jan 2 2007, 10:51 PM) 
I understand what he's saying, but how can you tell, with a thermal viewer, if you are seeing a subject fully unclothed or a subject fully clothed? Couldn't a uniform heat signature come from either...as long as it's uniform I mean?
I am NOT an expert on thermal imaging, but I have had some very limited experience with it. I would think that an unclothed, hairy individual would present a uniform thermal image, as long as there were no exposed skin in viewing range. The exposed skin would create a brighter image due to heat loss. Viewing an individual from the side would create such a uniform image. I think that it would be very hard to create a uniform image if the subject was wearing clothes. Everthing visible to the viewer would have to be made out of the same material, have the same fit (i.e. distance from the skin), etc. This does not take into consideration the difficulties associate with the head. Even if the individual had long hair that covered the face, that part of the image would be different from the clothing on the rest of the body. Perhaps if some sort of head covering made from the same material were worn, that might get close, but I would think there would be some tell tale differences...
Maybe some of those folks who have had a lot more experience with thermal imaging can better answer this question.
QUOTE(VAFooter @ Jan 3 2007, 12:10 AM)
I am NOT an expert on thermal imaging, but I have had some very limited experience with it. I would think that an unclothed, hairy individual would present a uniform thermal image, as long as there were no exposed skin in viewing range. The exposed skin would create a brighter image due to heat loss. Viewing an individual from the side would create such a uniform image. I think that it would be very hard to create a uniform image if the subject was wearing clothes. Everthing visible to the viewer would have to be made out of the same material, have the same fit (i.e. distance from the skin), etc. This does not take into consideration the difficulties associate with the head. Even if the individual had long hair that covered the face, that part of the image would be different from the clothing on the rest of the body. Perhaps if some sort of head covering made from the same material were worn, that might get close, but I would think there would be some tell tale differences...
Maybe some of those folks who have had a lot more experience with thermal imaging can better answer this question.
Maybe some of those folks who have had a lot more experience with thermal imaging can better answer this question.
It depends. What is the coolest and warmest temperature in the thing your trying to image. Then is your sensor sensitive enough to pick out the slight variations between warm and warmer in your image. Military thermal image can do this. It can tell the difference between naked skin and uniform over skin.
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