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RobUstes
If what i am told is correct, Yellowstone is essentially a big giant volcanic crater. Could this be a prelude to a bigger event?? Some scientists have said in the past that Yellowstone may go active again, and if it does, an eruption would or could be catasrophic to North America.
If your in that area, please keep an eye open for increased sasquatch activity.

http://www.rense.com/general39/yellow.htm


Yellowstone Park Getting
Hotter - Closes Volcanic Basin
From The Yellowstone Newsletter
8-1-3


Yellowstone National Park Superintendent Suzanne Lewis announced that due to high ground temperatures and increased thermal activity that could affect visitor and employee safety, a portion of the Back Basin at Norris Geyser Basin on the west side of the park has been temporarily closed. Yellowstone's more popular features within the Norris Geyser Basin, including Steamboat and Echinus Geysers and all of Porcelain Basin, remain open to the public.

The temporary closure is clearly marked and covers most of the western portion of the Back Basin trail starting at the Norris Museum. There are approximately 12,500 feet of trails in the Norris Geyser Basin-with approximately 5,800 feet affected by the temporary closure.

Norris is the hottest and most seismically active geyser basin in Yellowstone. Recent activity in the Norris Geyser Basin has included formation of new mud pots, an eruption of Porkchop Geyser (dormant since 1989), the draining of several geysers, creating steam vents and significantly increased measured ground temperatures (up to 200 degrees Fahrenheit). Additional observations include vegetation dying due to thermal activity and the changing of several geysers' eruption intervals. Vixen Geyser has become more frequent and Echinus Geyser has become more regular.

Park staff continue to monitor temperatures and thermal features in the area. When conditions have returned to acceptable ground temperatures and stable surface conditions have improved, the trail will be reopened. Norris is another example of Yellowstone's thermal features that are constantly evolving and changing.
Grover's Ghost
Rob- Are Squatches affected by increased geothermal activity?
RobUstes
I'm not 100 % certain GG, but there was a big debate surrounding the Mt St Helens eruptions regarding such.

If they can detect the rumbleings of a volcano or not.
Or if, like us, they sense "something different but cant put my finger on it" until it shakes and blows ..

My theory of "fat pads on feet that can detect seismic waves" , like elephants can, could explain alot of things.
I think i did a thread on it, "Fat feet" or something .....

http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?act...924&hl=fat+feet
Leeloo Dallas
I have wondered about them sensing things like that too Rob. Animals very often sense things before we do. So I think they are smart enough to vacate an area if they sense something bad is happening. I have wondered about this with forest fires also.
Kisal
ohmy.gif Some years ago I read that they had discovered that most, or all, of Yellowstone was a single giant caldera. What tipped them off was that a large pond was moving. While trying to find out what was causing it, they determined that the ground on one side of the pond was swelling, forcing the water toward the opposite side. ohmy.gif They also discovered that the entire area is underlaid by one enormous pool of lava. icon_stressed.gif

If I remember the article correctly, when that lava pool blows it will devastate most of Utah, Arizona and New Meexico. There was also some discussion of that volcano being responsible for the apparent "bottleneck" that has affected the DNA of Native American's. ohmy.gif icon_stressed.gif ohmy.gif
Leeloo Dallas
QUOTE(Kisal @ Aug 1 2003, 09:25 PM)
If I remember the article correctly, when that lava pool blows it will devastate most of Utah, Arizona and New Meexico.

Now that would suck. My brother in law is moving to Utah. ohmy.gif
RobUstes
Leeloo, i dont think animals freak out over a forest fire like DIsney portrayed in Bambi ... its more of a casual nuisence to them. I recall a photo of elk grazing in a meadow, while a forest fire burned the shrubs in the background. The Mt St Helens eruption was different, massive explosion of dust and gas, moving down the mountain at upwards to 100 mph, ... and some unverified reports of sasquatch carcasses being airlifted out after the dust settled down .. Unverified (i had to say that again). But just think of all the neat fossils that will await mankind in a couple thousand years biggrin.gif eight feet of dust and ash in spots, trapped animals underneath it ... wow ! (think Vesuvius)

Kisal, thats what i remember, the whole area being a big crater of volcanic activity. unsure.gif i dunno if i wanna go to Yellowstone anytime soon, like i hoped to a year ago ... laugh.gif
RobUstes
Oooohhhhh .... lookie biggrin.gif I'ma "Mountain Devil" now

This mean i get to sit upon the mountain top and shreik and stamp my feet at passers by ? icon_razz.gif i just wanna lob cans of tunafish at people .. and lima beans, some people find lima beans frightening icon_really_happy_guy.gif
Grover's Ghost
Whoaa..... Airlifting the Squatch carcasses out after the blow? This sounds too cool to let you get away with just a quick reference, Rob. What do ya know????? blink.gif
Grover's Ghost
Another thing about the fat pads. Perhaps that's why Squatches are so damn elusive. Maybe they can feel the minute siesmic vibrations that humans put into the ground as they walk? Very interesting...........

ok.... now back to the airlifting...... unsure.gif
RobUstes
Well, airlifting ... the state and feds were disposing of alot of animal carscass, and its "RUMORED" that there were some sasquatch bodies too. Some wild reports of arms and legs dangleing from cargo nets under helicopters.

Wild rumors. Nothing verified. No pics that i know of. No person has come forward saying" Yes, i put those bodies in a cargo net" or anything.
Fishbone35
QUOTE(RobUstes @ Aug 1 2003, 10:30 PM)
i just wanna lob cans of tunafish at people .. and lima beans, some people find lima beans frightening icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Who could possibly find lima beans frightening??? icon_razz.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif
RobUstes
QUOTE(Fishbone35 @ Aug 2 2003, 03:41 PM)
QUOTE(RobUstes @ Aug 1 2003, 10:30 PM)
i just wanna lob cans of tunafish at people .. and lima beans, some people find lima beans frightening icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Who could possibly find lima beans frightening??? icon_razz.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Wellllllll ... one person comes to mind right away .. we both know him .... laugh.gif
Fishbone35
Yep! And I think the next time I mail him something, I'm going to use dried lima beans instead of those styrofoam peanuts. wink.gif icon_razz.gif
Kisal
Well, I'm not fond of lima beans, myself! In fact, I downright detest the things! icon_really_happy_guy.gif

Those explosions of dust and superheated gases associated with volcanic eruptions are called "pyroclastic flows," and they literally burn your lungs out. icon_stressed.gif They move at such high speeds that it's impossible to escape them. The ordinary dust and ash is definitely unpleasant, but if you don't have too far to go (and you're reallly lucky!), you can use several layers of cloth to filter it out while you make your escape. But if you get caught in a pyroclastic flow, you're a goner. The young seismologist who was killed by one of these flows while watching Mt. St. Helen's erupt was a lonnnng way from the mountain when it finally exploded. Unfortunately, he was south of the mountain, which was the side that blew out. Poor guy never had a chance. icon_cry.gif
Kisal
sad.gif Here's some very interesting information about super-volcanoes. If you go to the url there are some maps included. Notice the size of these volcanoes compared to Mt. St. Helen's! icon_stressed.gif

http://www.victorynewsmagazine.com/TheVolc...ion%20on%20Toba

Young Toba Tuff

Toba caldera produced the largest eruption in the last 2 million years. The caldera is 18 x 60 miles (30 by 100 km) and has a total relief of 5,100 feet (1700 m). The caldera probably formed in stages. Large eruptions occurred 840,000, about 700,000, and 75,000 years ago. The eruption 75,000 years ago produced the Young Toba Tuff. The Young Toba Tuff was erupted from ring fractures that surround most or all of the present-day lake.

Scientific Discussion on Toba

In Britain, a scientist has predicted that another volcanic super- eruption the size of Toba could pose twice as much of a threat to civilization as a collision with an asteroid or a comet.

Michael Rampino, of New York University, warned that a massive volcanic eruption capable of causing as much devastation as the cosmic bodies, occurs every 50,000 years.

"Volcanoes in Yellowstone Park and Long Valley in California have erupted three times in the past two million years, each time coating the whole of the U.S. with ash" he said.

REF: New Scientist Magazine on Wednesday.

"But the biggest and and the most recent super-eruption happened at Toba, on the Indonesian Island of Sumatra, 73,000 yrs ago" he added.

REF: New Scientist Magazine on Wednesday.

Samosir Island and the Uluan Peninsula are parts of one or two resurgent domes. Lake sediments on Samosir indicate at least 1,350 feet (450 m) of uplift. Pusukbukit, a small stratovolcano along the west margin of the caldera, formed after the eruption 75,000 years ago. There are active solfataras on the north side of the volcano.

Comparison of volumes produced by some of the greatest volcanic eruptions. The Young Toba Tuff has an estimated volume of 2,800 cubic kilometers (km) and erupted about 74,000 years ago. The Huckleberry Ridge Tuff, erupted at Yellowstone 2.2 million years ago, has a volume of 2,500 cubic km. The Lava Creek Tuff, erupted at Yellowstone 600,000 years ago, has a volume of 1,000 cubic km. The May 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens produced 1 cubic km of ash. Not shown is the Fish Canyon Tuff of the San Juan Mountains of Colorado. The Fish Canyon Tuff was erupted 27.8 million years ago and has an estimated volume of 3,000 cubic km.

The volume of the youngest eruption is estimated at 2,800 cubic km, making the eruption the largest in the Quaternary. Pyroclastic flows covered an area of at least 20,000 square km. Up to 1200 feet (400 m) of Young Toba Tuff is exposed in the walls of the caldera. On Samosir Island the tuff is more than 1800 feet (600 m) thick. Ash fall from the eruption covers an area of at least 4 million square km. Ash from the eruption has been recovered from deep-sea cores taken in the Bay of Bengal and in India, roughly 300 miles (500 km) inland (1,900 miles, 3100 km from Toba).

Rose and Chesner suggested the ash may have reached central Asia and the Middle East. Ninkovich and others (1978) estimated of the height of the eruption column to be 30 to 50 miles (50 to 80 km) for the Young Toba Tuff. Rose and Chesner, after a study of the shapes of the ash shards, concluded this estimate was too high by a factor of 5 or more.

The pumice erupted 75,000 years ago is calc-alkalic quartz-latite to rhyolite in composition (68%-76% silica).

There have been no eruptions at Toba in historical time but the area is seismically active with major earthquakes in 1892, 1916, 1920-1922, and 1987.

According to Rampino's research, Toba blasted a crater 100 kms long and sent 3 billion tonnes of sulphur dioxide into the atmosphere and a dense volcanic cloud around the globe.

"He also suspects that Toba's super-eruption was responsible for the population crash of 70,000 years ago, when the number of people fell to no more than 10,000", the magazine added.

Michael Rampino warned that this kind of super- eruption occurs every 50,000 years.

Other research indicates that as the cooling of the earth had already commenced, Toba then was the indicating point for the commencement of the ice-age.

Sources of Information:

Knight, M.D., Walker, G.P.L., Ellwood, B.B., and Diehl, J.F., 1986, Stratigraphy, paleomagnetism, and magnetic fabric of the Toba Tuffs: Constraints on their sources and eruptive styles: Journal of Geophysical Research, v. 91, p. 10,355-10,382.

Ninkovich, D., Sparks, R.S.J., and Ledbetter, M.T., 1978, The exceptional magnitude and intensity of the Toba eruption, Sumatra: An example of using deep-sea tephra layers as a geological tool: Bulletin of Volcanologique, v. 41, p. 286-298.

Rampino, Michael, New Scientist Magazine

Rose, W.I., and Chesner, C.A., 1987, Dispersal of ash in the great Toga eruption, 75 ka: Geology, v. 15, p. 913-917. Simkin, T., and Siebert, L., 1994, Volcanoes of the World: Geoscience Press, Tucson, Arizona, 349 p.

Williams, M.A.J., and Royce, K., 1982, Quaternary geology of the Middle Son Valley, north central India: Implications for prehistoric archaeology: Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology, v. 38, p. 139-162.

Further Reading:

Can We Predict Volcanic Eruptions

www.victorynewsmagazine.com

And here's an interesting follow-up article about genetic evidence of humans almost going extinct:

http://www.mysteriousearth.com/archives/000129.htmlsize[I]
Knurd
http://www.casperstartribune.net/articles/...09f3ccac5b5.txt

Info.........
Streamrunner
Kisal, Knurd anybody else that starts with K who decides to post neat volcanic stuff : Thanks for that.

Regarding mad.gif the lima beans reference... will you guys just QUIT it?
You know damned well.... icon_redface.gif
icon_blob.gif

laugh.gif
RobUstes
I can see it now, SRs nightmare titles ... laugh.gif

The Attack of the Giant Lumbering Lima Beans

The Lima that ate Chicago

Son of Lumbering Lima

The return of the Son of the Lumbering Lima

Night of the Living Lima Beans

Lima Bean Death Squad

The Big Green Mean Lima Bean

icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jon a. larsen
Invasion of the Paranormal Mutant Lima Beans??????
chronic
QUOTE(Leeloo Dallas @ Aug 1 2003, 09:24 PM)
So I think they are smart enough to vacate an area if they sense something bad is happening. I have wondered about this with forest fires also.

A rhinoceros will run over and stomp out your campfire........or at least that's what they did in "The God's must be crazy".
RB
I liked that documentary... what was it called again?... Oh yes...

Lima Beans Sound Off
RobUstes
Lima Bean Ninjas of Death

It came from the stalk

Children of the Limas

Teenage Mutant Ninja Lima Beans

and the Stephen King classic - Limajo ph34r.gif
msfit32
Hmmm, went from volcanic eruptions to lima beans.... blink.gif


heh heh....I love this place!!! laugh.gif

Hey Mammoth Mountain has been getting more active too...they are watching it closely....that is in California BTW a ski resort area and theres been a sighting or two of bigfoot thingies there.....I hope they don't all stampede my way if it blows..... icon_stressed.gif


ATTACK OF THE SHRIEKING HORDE OF KILLER BIGFOOT THINGIES!!!!! icon_stressed.gif icon_blob.gif
Kisal
laugh.gif "Dr. Lima and Mr. Bean"

"Bride of the Lumbering Lima Bean"

"Jack the Lima Beaner"

"Count Lima Bean"

"Interview with a Lima Bean"

laugh.gif icon_really_happy_guy.gif
Streamrunner
I like "It came from the stalk" and "Jack the Lima Beaner" laugh.gif

but come on, this is not real food. And they make lousy marbles and they... oh come on. mad.gif icon_blob.gif laugh.gif
Howlingmad
Volcanoes, skeery things they are. Visited Kilauea just
before leaving Hawaii and it was a sobering experience,
damned near standing on flowing lava, watching it on the
hillside above us, and seeing the devastation wrought over
the last 100 or so years. Sobering indeed...

And damned slick too, great adrenalin rush wink.gif
SgtFang
Brrrrrrf... I hate doomsday scenarios... I wonder if there's any way to vent this thing before it builds up enough pressure to blow?

-Sarge
MIbfhunter
QUOTE(RobUstes @ Aug 2 2003, 12:28 AM)
Leeloo, i dont think animals freak out over a forest fire like DIsney portrayed in Bambi ... its more of a casual nuisence to them. I recall a photo of elk grazing in a meadow, while a forest fire burned the shrubs in the background. The Mt St Helens eruption was different, massive explosion of dust and gas, moving down the mountain at upwards to 100 mph, ... and some unverified reports of sasquatch carcasses being airlifted out after the dust settled down .. Unverified (i had to say that again). But just think of all the neat fossils that will await mankind in a couple thousand years biggrin.gif eight feet of dust and ash in spots, trapped animals underneath it ... wow ! (think Vesuvius)

Kisal, thats what i remember, the whole area being a big crater of volcanic activity. unsure.gif i dunno if i wanna go to Yellowstone anytime soon, like i hoped to a year ago ... laugh.gif

is this the pic you are talking about Rob? beautiful pic isn't it? I visited Yellowstone several years ago when I was a lot younger, it's a beautiful place, it was just 4 or 5 years after the huge fires tore through there and we saw a lot of burned up trees, but already new growth was coming up, and it didn't seem to have harmed the wildlife at all, we saw hundreds of buffalo and elk, no bears though. I have yet to see a wild bear despite much looking icon_bang.gif
RobUstes
MIb, thats one i remember, but not the one i had in mind ... that was a daytime shot of elk grazing in the meadow while the blaze was on the slope behind them.

That IS an awesome pic though ... breathtaking cool.gif

I get excited at the thought of all the new growth thats going to occur there, the wildflowers, the small pines, the birds , bees and berries, all the undergrowth that will provide cover and food for the furry woodland creatures. Be neat to get a pic this next spring of that same spot.
Fires,.. while immediatly devastating, try not to think of all the sooty blackness, but the new green thats to come from it. smile.gif

cool.gif
ganglian
saw the pic, that was my wallpaper for a year. COOLEST pic in a long, long time
bipto
Travis, that is an amazing picture. Do you have it at a higher resolution?
MIbfhunter
no I don't have it at a higher resolution unfortunately bipto, this pic was with my saved ones from a long while back, I think I found it on the realtree.com forums, this was the biggest pic someone posted there I believe.
RB
Elk ain't so dumb... I can feel the heat off that pic from here... I'd be in the river as well... ohmy.gif

That's the same size as the photo I have, bipto... but resolution? I'm clueless... hey, watch it... dry.gif biggrin.gif
Knurd
New stuff............

A MONSTER THAT COULD DESTROY LIFE ON EARTH AWAKENS
Published in the UK Daily Express. 10th. September 2003.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum....cgi?read=36599

Did Earth Blow Up The Dinosaurs
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/life-03zr.html
MonkeyMan
I've been watching the Yellowstone situation with great interest for a while now. If that thing blows like it has in the past, you might be looking at ash covering much of the farm belt. The result would likely be widespread social upheaval that is far beyond what we can imagine. The magnitude of the eruption could make the volcanic events of our lifetimes seem like a pinprick.

On the happy side, geologic time is a bit different than TV Guide time, so the window of dis-opportunity is very large.

There is a new report from the area, believed by many to be one of the best places to see a BF, on the BFRO.

And for more interesting related reading, check out the fine resources on Cascade Range volcanoes on the USGS site.
JonZ
Living 90 miles from Yellowstone, I hope I'm out of town if it rocks.

There are two calderas up there. The Yellowstone Caldera which is several miles long and wide, and the Island Park caldera which is smaller.

If the Yellowstone eruption occurs it will do what someone has already posted, destroy the farming in midwest, possibly kill thousands from ash fall out (they have found fossils in Kansas that are linked in death to the last explosion), alter weather patterns, and I have even heard promote a new ice age.

But hey, that's all if...and if it does, most of us won't give a rat's behind if bigfoot left the area because of a premonition of an event. We'll have bigger worries.

Jon
Knurd
http://www.earthfiles.com/news/news.cfm?ID...ory=Environment

Yellowstone Park - Will There Be Another "Super Volcano?"

© 2002 by Linda Moulton Howe


The Caldera Rim in Yellowstone National Park, Wyoming, is 40 miles in diameter.
645,000 years ago, a "super volcano" blew out so much magma that the land collapsed downward
a few thousand feet, creating the caldera. The Norris geothermal region marked with a red star has
periodically had sections closed because of intense heating from below ground.
Graphic courtesy the U. S. Geological Service.



September 19, 2002 Menlo Park, California - In the past three weeks since I reported about potential threats of volcanic activity in the Pacific Northwest and changes in hydrothermal activity in Yellowstone Park, internet chat rooms have been buzzing about the idea of a "Super Volcano" erupting in Yellowstone. Excerpts from one e-mailer at rumormillnews.com said: "Yellowstone is worse than we thought. ...there is a large dead zone of animals and vegetation. ...New geysers and mud pots are springing up daily. ...They have closed more areas to the public than is being reported. There are several areas where the ground temperature tops 200 degrees. And earthquakes are becoming a daily occurrence." People are asking if all the increased heating could be the prelude to a "Super Volcano?"
I went back to the United States Geological Survey office in Menlo Park, California, where Jacob Lowenstern, Ph.D., is the Scientist-In-Charge of the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory. He and I had talked at the end of August about changes this summer in the Norris geothermal system at Yellowstone in which some trails were closed because surface temperatures exceeded 200 degrees Fahrenheit due to increased boiling water bubbling up from below. This week, I read the e-mail to him and asked if there was any continuing evidence of increasing pressures and temperatures at Yellowstone Park.

Jacob Lowenstern, Ph.D., Scientist-In-Charge, Yellowstone Volcano Observatory, U. S. Geological Survey, Menlo Park, California: "There are two different press releases by the National Park Service about the Norris geothermal system. There were some changes. There is an area with some dead trees. I don't think I saw any dead animals when I was there. It's not changing at this time. It changed in July and has pretty much stayed the same ever since.



Norris Geyser Basin, Yellowstone National Park.
Photograph courtesy USGS.



There was increased boiling that sort of spread onto the area where the trail is so the ground temperatures are very high in some areas. There has been release of thermal water up to the surface in some areas. So there are a few new features and once again, those features formed in late July and they haven't changed since then.

IS IT THE HOT WATER THAT'S BOILING TO THE SURFACE IN MUD THAT IS KILLING THE TREES?

Yes, there is increased flow of hot water from the underground to the surface. it's actually increased heat. There is more boiling than normal. The actual amount of flow of water out of the ground, we don't know if that has increased. It probably has not.

WHAT ABOUT EARTHQUAKES BECOMING A DAILY OCCURRENCE?

Seismic events, earthquakes at Yellowstone, are lower than normal at this time and have been for a couple of months. Yellowstone has a lot of very small earthquakes. It's an active area. But again, there's no indication that things have changed or increased in the last few weeks to few months.

WHAT IS YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON A CONCEPT THAT IS BEING KICKED AROUND ON THE INTERNET OF A POTENTIAL SUPER VOLCANO ERUPTING IN YELLOWSTONE?


Could Yellowstone Erupt Again?



The periodicity of super volcanic eruptions at Yellowstone
have been 2 million years ago; 1.3 million years ago; and 630,000 years ago.
Graphic courtesy U. S. Geological Survey.


The Yellowstone area has been host to some of the largest volcanic eruptions on earth. They were a long time ago. There have been about three of them, and the most recent one was 640,000 years ago. Since that time, there have been about 30 more eruptions, most of them much smaller, and causing much less potential damage than the so-called super volcano event.

It's always possible that there can be more volcanic activity at Yellowstone and that's why there is a Yellowstone Volcano Observatory. But the probability that that event is going to happen any time soon is exceedingly small. There is no reason to believe at this time that there is any heightened chance of a volcanic eruption at Yellowstone.



Hawaiian magma eruption. Photograph by J.D. Griggs.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NORMAL VOLCANO AND A SUPER VOLCANO?

I think what they mean is that the amount of magma that leaves the volcano during the eruption is much, much larger than a typical volcanic eruption such as in Hawaii or Mount St. Helens, or some of the ones we've seen over the past few decades.

(Super volcanoes) are really large events and they form what we call calderas where the ground actually sinks down because there is so much magma removed from beneath the ground and there's a big hole that is left. The one at Yellowstone is on the order of 40 miles across.

HOW DEEP?

It would be a few thousand feet.

A FEW THOUSAND FEET DEEP?

Yes. Similar to what you can see at Crater Lake, Oregon, but on a larger scale. That sort of thing does happen. There are several similar kinds of caldera systems around the world. Yellowstone is not the only one. These events do happen, but they are very infrequent.

IF I'M UNDERSTANDING, THERE WOULD BE A GIGANTIC ERUPTION OF MAGMA AND THE WHOLE LAND 50 MILES ACROSS SANK?

That's right.

IF THAT HAPPENED AGAIN TODAY, WOULD THE SAME AREA THAT SUNK, SINK LOWER?

Possibly. We don't know exactly what area would be the location for the caldera. It would be somewhere in and around Yellowstone, if it happened at Yellowstone. But again, it's a very remote possibility that this will happen any time soon, if ever.

IF THERE WAS A SUPER VOLCANO AND ALL OF THIS MAGMA BEGAN ERUPTING, WOULD THERE BE A GIGANTIC SOUND ASSOCIATED WITH ALL THIS?

Yes, I'm sure you would hear it from hundreds of miles away.

WHAT WOULD PEOPLE BE HEARING?

They would be hearing explosions essentially.

EXPLOSIONS FROM THE EARTH SPEWING OUT THE MAGMA?

That's right.

WHEN YOU SAY HUNDREDS OF MILES, THINKING OF WYOMING, WOULD PEOPLE IN SAY WASHINGTON STATE ON THE WEST AND HOW FAR EAST WOULD PEOPLE HEAR?

I'm not an expert and couldn't tell you how far people could hear it.

IS THERE ANY EVIDENCE IN OUR GEOLOGICAL STUDIES TO SUGGEST WHAT THE FREQUENCY MIGHT BE OF A SUPER VOLCANO LIKE THIS IN YELLOWSTONE?

Well, there have been three of them and they occurred 2 million years ago; around 1.2 million years ago; and around 640,000 years ago. so, they've occurred on the order of every 600,000 to 700,000 years. But there is no reason for us to know that that means anything or that conditions have not stayed ­ we don't know they are going to occur that often every time.

BUT IF IT DID, THEN WE WOULD START BEING IN THE WINDOW OF TIME IN WHICH THERE COULD BE ANOTHER SUPER VOLCANIC EVENT?

If it did.

WE WOULD BE IN SUCH A WINDOW?

Within 100,000 years or so. Again, these things don't happen very often. Human civilization has never seen one in historic times, but even far longer than that.

IN SUMMARY, THESE REPORTS THAT ARE BEING SPREAD ON RUMORMILLNEWS.COM AND OTHERS ABOUT A SUPER VOLCANO GETTING READY TO BLOW UP IN YELLOWSTONE PARK ­ WHAT'S YOUR BOTTOM LINE RESPONSE?

Most of it is trying to sort of excite people without using facts."


Dr. Lowenstern says that he is confident that the U. S. Geological Survey has enough seismic and other monitors spread throughout Yellowstone Park to give plenty of warning about major seismic and temperature changes.
Randy_Hutchings
"WHEN YOU SAY HUNDREDS OF MILES, THINKING OF WYOMING, WOULD PEOPLE IN SAY WASHINGTON STATE ON THE WEST AND HOW FAR EAST WOULD PEOPLE HEAR?

I'm not an expert and couldn't tell you how far people could hear it."

I read somewhere that should Yellowstone pop with the veracity that it has in the past (during "supervolcanic" events) the explosion would be, literally, heard around the world to varying degrees, save for a certain area within the direct vicinity of Yellowstone (due to some form of sonic phenomenon that I can't quite remember the details of at the moment)...

Course, the reported distance of the kill zone is debated at being anywhere between 350 to 650 miles around the caldera, so I'm sure those in the direct vicinity wouldn't care that they missed the mother of all explosions anyhow, being as they'd be quite dead....
RB
QUOTE(MonkeyMan @ Sep 15 2003, 06:51 AM)
There is a new report from the area, believed by many to be one of the best places to see a BF, on the BFRO.

And for more interesting related reading, check out the fine resources on Cascade Range volcanoes on the USGS site.

Hey Monk! Good to see you're going for that trip out west here... cool.gif

Don't forget to call me... we'll do Yosemite... or lunch... whatever you can work in... biggrin.gif

Since you've been studying the chain of volcanoes...

Have you figured out where the best place in the lower 48 to be if and when a volcano does erupt?

Ummm, just a SWAG here, (as, that's what I do best)... but...

Could it be where Sasquatch hangs out... historically speaking?

Coincidence due to climatic preferences... or... maybe familiar with eruptions? dry.gif

I dunno... you be the judge... film at eleven... laugh.gif
jimf
Just finshed reading a book (again,by that i mean the same book for the second time) .. In it (though its fiction alot of it is based on reality.) In it it mentions that if just eight strategic volcanoes were to erupt at the same time it would create a nuclear winter...anyone know if this is indeed based on fact ?
Randy_Hutchings
QUOTE(jimf @ Sep 22 2003, 10:32 PM)
Just finshed reading a book (again,by that i mean the same book for the second time) .. In it (though its fiction alot of it is based on reality.) In it it mentions that if just eight strategic volcanoes were to erupt at the same time it would create a nuclear winter...anyone know if this is indeed based on fact ?

From some of the articles I've read recently, detailing what Yellowstone is capable of (not saying it will be, but has shown to be capable of in the past), one big pop from it would be nearly enough to create a nuclear winter for as long as 3-6 months...

Not to mention the entirety of mid America would be in ruins (crops failed, ect. ect)...

It'd kinda be one of those things You'd morbidly like to see happen, just cause noone living has ever witnessed such...Then again, it's also one of those things Ya pray never does happen in Your or Your childrens lifetimes...*shrug*...Be pretty messed up either way...
Arkansan
Eeeeek!!! icon_eek.gif

Not something I want to think about with a family of 6 to feed!
jimf
QUOTE(Randy_Hutchings @ Sep 23 2003, 06:49 AM)
[From some of the articles I've read recently, detailing what Yellowstone is capable of (not saying it will be, but has shown to be capable of in the past), one big pop from it would be nearly enough to create a nuclear winter for as long as 3-6 months...

Not to mention the entirety of mid America would be in ruins (crops failed, ect. ect)...

It'd kinda be one of those things You'd morbidly like to see happen, just cause noone living has ever witnessed such...Then again, it's also one of those things Ya pray never does happen in Your or Your childrens lifetimes...*shrug*...Be pretty messed up either way...

Thank you ,Randy. It would be an awesome sight to behold...but just the same I'd rather not see it either.
goldie
If things aren't scary enough to chew on in this thread I just noticed a coincidence that is kinda scary. The black out in New York and the Black out in Italy and the earthquake in Japan and Mt Lassen pretty much all sit on the 40 meridian. Creepy. goldie
goldie
Sorry I meant to say Latitude lines. Thanks Howling Mad.
goldie
RobUstes
*bump thread*
Important developments in the Yellowstone area icon_eek.gif

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Scientists Closely
Monitoring Yellowstone
The Idaho Observer
1-7-4


"When Yellowstone does blow, some geologists predict that every living thing within six hundred miles is likely to die."

Recent Eruptions, 200 Degree Ground Temperatures, Bulging Magma And 84 Degree Water Temperatures Prompt Heightened Scrutiny Of Park's Geothermal Activity

BILLINGS, Mont. -- Yellowstone National Park happens to be on top of one of the largest "super volcanoes" in the world. Geologists claim the Yellowstone Park area has been on a regular eruption cycle of 600,000 years. The last eruption was 640,000 years ago making the next one long overdue. This next eruption could be 2,500 times the size of the 1980 Mount St. Helens eruption. Volcanologists have been tracking the movement of magma under the park and have calculated that, in parts of Yellowstone, the ground has risen over seventy centimeters this century.

In July, 2003, Yellowstone Park rangers closed the entire Norris Geyser Basin because of deformation of the land and excessive high ground temperatures. There is an area that is 28 miles long by 7 miles wide that has bulged upward over five inches since 1996, and this year the ground temperature on that bulge has reached over 200 degrees (measured one inch below ground level).

There was no choice but to close off the entire area. Everything in this area is dying: The trees, flowers, grass and shrubs. A dead zone is developing and spreading outward. The animals are literally migrating out of the park.

Then during the last part of July one of the Park geologists discovered a huge bulge at the bottom of Yellowstone Lake. The bulge has already risen over 100 feet from the bottom of the lake and the water temperature at the surface of the bulge has reached 88 degrees and is still rising.

Keep in mind that Yellowstone Lake is a high mountain lake with very cold water temperatures. The Lake is now closed to the public. It is filled with dead fish floating everywhere. The same is true of the Yellowstone river and most of the other streams in the Park. Dead and dying fish are filling the water everywhere.

Many of the picnic areas in the Park have been closed and people visiting the Park usually stay but a few hours before leaving since the stench of sulfur is so strong they literally can't stand the smell.

The irony of all this is the silence by the news media and our government. Very little information is available from Yellowstone personnel or publications. What mainstream newsstories do appear underscore the likelihood of a massive volcanic eruption. Though geologists publicly admit Yellowstone is "overdue," they have been quoted as stating another massive magma release may not occur for 100,000 or 2 million years. Others close to the story are convinced that a massive eruption is imminent. A source that has demonstrated first-hand knowledge of the park's history and recent geothermal events stated the following: "The American people are not being told that the explosion of this 'super volcano' could happen at any moment. When Yellowstone does blow, some geologists predict that every living thing within six hundred miles is likely to die. The movement of magma has been detected just three-tenths of a mile below the bulging surface of the ground in Yellowstone raising concerns that this super volcano may erupt soon."

- This report was taken from a series of articles, emails and official information

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20031219.htm
nightwing
Friend from work went hunting in Wyoming in October. He visited the park on his way back...he said it's flat out scary, and the park rangers are NOT talking...ask them abou it, they say it's a non-issue....yet....the lake is off limits(really!), the river is virtualy dead, and the wildlife IS moving out...fast.
There have been many reports animals leaving the park area, beyond the numbers generaly associated with seasonal migrations.
Something to think about, given that there are farily strong indications that animals can detect minor "signs" of impending volcanice and techtonic activity....and often try to get away right before something blows.
This, folks, is scary.
And..there is nothing we can do about it...
Lets just hope that Argentina and Bolivia are willing to be our breadbasket after the U.S. and Canadian wheat and corn belts are effectively removed from the face of the earth.
Howlingmad
So much for all that "blue ribbon trout stream flowing thru
20 acres cheap" property in the back of hunting magazines ohmy.gif

This is gonna suck when it happens...

No wait, I mean blow huh.gif

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