Anyone else come across anything odd recently? It would seem that this would be the perfect time to observe weird things besides pot growers and meth freaks. I've heard odds and ends about "GOLD MINIERS" of all people. Can someone give me the skinny on that?

once in Bankhead Natl Forest on horseback and at least five miles from the nearest real path much less dirt road I came across a complete cheerleaders outfit with a pair of socks and panties laying there on the ground. I sat there on the horse with a really weird feeling running through me. I looked and saw that there was rope tied to a tree. I looked closer and found that there were two pines about ten feet apart. Each had a similar lenght rope tied to them about one ft off the ground and again at about six ft off the ground. If you looked you could tell they had been cut jaggedly at the ends but had a person of average height been standing there you could have easily had them tied spread eagle in the standing position.

I took a compass bearing and mental note of terrain and whipped that horse into a fast a pace as I could and went and got some forestry officers. We went back and they really got curious about it. Took a statement and sent me on my way. I tried calling back about it but was more or less brushed off each time.

I came across a small childs suitcase full of lil clothes once while coon hunting the same county. It was a couple miles from the nearest gravel or dirt road.

Found a large sandstone in the forest about three miles up a very rough creekbed with a pentagram on it and lots of feathers and blood etc everywhere.

I would've cried, I suppose its possible that the cheerleader outfit was just an outfit during cosensual activity.
Nonetheless, pretty disturbing.

One time I found something like a table or alter made from beer cans. Jeesh.

An old hunting buddy once told me he came across two men skinning a woman alive way out in the middle of the woods here in Florida.

He was in law enforcement at that time, so I guess he dealt with them accordingly; he did not say any more to me than that.

What a disturbing thing to discover! I wonder just how many missing kids ended up in a situation like that. A parents worst nightmare.

That is pretty horriyfing along with the two skinning a woman. Honestly in a weird way this is almost turning into a perfect ghost or tall tales thread.I have to wonder how much criminal activity occurs in the forested regions of the US. Seems like a suprising amount.

My law enforcement friend told me most of the worst stuff happens closer in to densely populated areas, but in the woods. "On the fringes," was the way he put it.

I'm always more wary in the woods near neighborhoods now that he told me that.

Shoot after hearing that I'd want a SAW and an orbital laser platform for close support. YIKES so much for the words only being inhabited by peaceful hippies and squatch!

Good Lord! Now that's just disturbing.

Was she still alive?

The skining a woman alive sounds like a variation of the Infamous Ed Geins story from around the La Crosse and Plainfield WI areas from about 1947-1957. Two movies were based on his life, the lesser known one, but more closely related to his life was a movie by the name of "Deranged" released in 1974. "Deranged" on wikipedia The second movie was "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" It's also said the characters Norman Bates in "Psycho" and Buffalo Bill in "Silence of the Lambs" were also based on Ed Geins. I read the book on Ed Geins life, and literally wanted to puke as the book included police photos from the crime scene. In addition to killing and skinning his victims he also fashioned things like lamp shades and seat covers from their bodies. When the police searched his house shortly before he was arrested they found human flesh canned as well as some cooked but uneaten on his stove. Ed Geins on wikipedia

gfanikf in regards to "Gold Miners" there's a lot of them in Oregon, and I've run across a few during the time I spent out there. Then number one thing to remember if you come across a claim, and usually you'll see a sign of some sort stating the property has a claim on it, is don't trespass! Many of those claims are far away from civilization (in the sense we know it) and I doubt they want to be bothered holding you there till law enforcement arrives to deal with you.

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Hahaha... I wonder if anyone's said that yet.

You know we have teenagers on the board when someone say's something like the following... :doh:

Moregon, thanks for the info I've been wondering about it since I first heard it mentioned. I always figured that all the gold in this country was dug up lol. Are these young guys or the last of the mountain men?

gfanikf, all the gold dug up? Not by a long shot. The big difference is now, for the most part, it's harder to get the gold, meaning poorer veins etc. Not profitable enough for big companies so it's the little guys that do it. I personally know people with claims that range from early 20's to 70's so it spans the entire range of ages. One couple I know, who have a claim work it from May till September every year, then take off the rest of the year and dabble in their hobbies. They make enough to support themselves with neccessities, as well as have purchased several homes (one they live in and some rental properties) and they buy a new car about every three years, and still put money in the bank. But it's not like a job where you have a guaranteed income based on the hours you work. They may go for weeks with nothing, then hit a good amount of gold and make as much in a week as some do in a year. Others have been mining/prospecting for years and are lucky to hit enough gold in a week to pay for the gas to go out to their claim. No guarantees, but all have dreams of hitting the big one, and the last thing they want is for you to come on their property and steal it from them before they find it.

I seen a show on the travel channel not long ago and they talked about gold. They said the gold in the US that has already been found is only a small% of what is still out there. They gave a example that like the Ca. gold rush only accounted for maybe 1% of the gold ever found in the US any not even on the scale for what is still out there.

Boy I really hate to admit it, but yes bad things can happen in the woods. People are much more dangerous than animals, simply put.

Everytime I find a random shoe laying around or something I feel uneasy. I don't ever want to stumble across something bad. A man recently dissapeared last year and his truck was found far back in the woods, a place where I've been before. They suspect it was murder. Bodies have also been found in various lakes.

It's my belief that you can avoid things like this just by staying away from bad people and avoiding strangers completely unless they are obvious hikers or someone else just out there enjoying themself. It's a shame how many drunks are up to no good when they hit the woods.

I often wonder how many satanic cults perform their nastiness out in the woods? When I lived in California, many moons ago, we had a rash of incidents of this type. I don't know who would be worse trouble running into out in the woods, devil worshipers or druggies? I would think that gold miners would be tame compared to the other two groups.

If devil worshipers these days are just the whinny nitwits that casued EMO to become a huge part of the music scene then I don't think you should be do worried. Back in my day when worshiped the dark lord we listened to Slay and Black Sabbath damnit! :laugh: . Seriously I'm not sure, but I would say druggies because in theory devil worshippers can act rational (ie there not on meth!).

moregon and micahn thanks for all the info on gold mining in this country. Screw bigfoot, I'm going to be a sourdough lol (ah the Oregon Trail and Yukon Trail games ).

A few months ago a man was found in the trunk of a burned car at the Jack's River Campground in the Cohutta Wilderness/Cherokee National Forest area. Law Enforcement had leads that it may have been gang related to the Mexican gang MS-13. Well, a few weeks later, my girlfriend and I are driving down the trail towards the campground and an approaching vehicle is coming towards us not wanting to move over an inch. I drive a Jeep so I don't have any problem pulling into the ditch for the other guy out of courtesy. Turns out to be a Federal Wildlife Officer. He was rude and questioned us as to why we were out there and our destination , asked for I.D. and so forth. I explained to the officer that we often drive the trails and forest service roads . I can cover up to 60 miles in an evenings drive up there, it is very relaxing and you never know if you'll see a bear or a pig. I have always had good relations with FWO's and state game wardens and this guy really had me PO'd confusing ME with a Mexican gang member! I'm a 42 year-old blond haired white guy in a lifted and modded Jeep for Christ' sakes! And no I don't have tassles across my windshield. :icon_bang: but I do love Mexican food..... :laugh:

I just hope this thread sinks in on those folks who only plan on taking some love beads into the forest. As sad a commentary as it is, there are crazies out there who will slit your throat and not think twice about it. 99.9999999% of the time you are not going to run into them. But that one time you do, I really hope you are adequately prepared to make the world a better place and eliminate some trash...for you and your families sake...and ours.

The love beads I usually take with me are in the form of 00 buckshot.

Well, lets see, once I was hiking the Uinta's in Utah. In a forest clearing at about 10,000 feet elevation, sitting on top of some very large boulders, were four seashells, like scallop shells (same as the "Shell" oil company logo). Sitting in these shells were berries. I don't know what type they were, as I'm not a berry expert, but it sure looked to me like someone's dinner table, with plates and food. It was definately set up that way on purpose...teddy bear picnic? I don't know, but it was pretty odd, up there in the middle of nowhere.

In SE Oklahoma, a mile or so off a main trail, on the side of a large mountain, was a pond. It appeared to be exactly like a man-made farm pond, built up on all sides for the sole purpose of holding water, but this was on a mountainside in the middle of thick woods. The water was brown and muddy, to be sure, but it sustained me for the night (filtered it, of course). I don't know why it was there, but it sure looked man-made.

Those are the 'strange' things that seem to stand out. I've seen various articles of clothing and whatnot, too.

By the way, I'm an avid geocacher. If anyone has any questions about it, let me know.

Great thread! Keep it up!

I think you have a concrete pump ball there.

I say this from experience as I own four concrete pumps.

I wasn't hunting for BF at the time, but when I was 17, myself and a number of friends decided to go explore the old abandoned seismology station that used to border Warren and Van Buren counties, here in Tennessee...This initially occurred on Labor Day of 1991 (I remember the date fairly well, cause my pop was taken to the VA Hospital that same afternoon while I was away from home)...

So we get there and decide to goof off in the main building, which was pretty big, and still held quite a number of old charts and graphs, and this one HUGE glass table that was about 12ft long...Man, I wish I could've somehow toted that thing outta there somehow, but it was too huge to transport (hey, if it'd been sitting there for 20yrs, I figured it was finders keepers by that point)...We looked through alot of the old papers and so forth, and found one of the seismology charts, if we were reading it right (which, admittedly, we probably weren't)t, detailing some gigantic cave waaaaay down underground below the site (like 9 miles or more, if memory serves correct), or wherever the readings were taken from...

Anyhow, after we got bored in the main building, we took off towards what we called "the Orb"...The Orb was basically some old satellite relay thing, and was, for better or worse, kinda shaped like an orb with a thick tubular protrustion coming out the very top (kinda like this, cept on a much smaller scale - Sattelite Relay Station )...Inside the orb were some of those big refrigerator sized computers You see in flicks from the 70s and a phone...Not thinking anything about it, one of us picked up the phone and lo and behold, it was still working and had a dial tone...Now, this place had been, up to that point, closed for nearly 2 decades, so we all kinda chuckles and thought it was a fine example of goverment waste...

After goofing off in "the Orb" for a few minutes, we decided to check out this very drab looking trailer that stood about 30 yards away, that had a small sign on the door that read "Fire Extinguisher Inside"...When we tried to open the door to this trailer, it was locked, but one of my friends noticed a very short length of rope hanging out from underneath the very corner of the door, where it met with the door facing...Well, being stupid kids not thinking about much, we grabbed a tire iron and tried to pry part of the door open, just enough to get some of the rope, which we managed to do...So we pull a good length of this rope out, and while we do so we've got someone still tugging with the tire iron on the side of the door...And then, POP - Door flies open...

And that's when we all kinda think we mabey shouldn't have done all this...Cause, I kid You not, upon that door opening, we stood there looking at 5 or 6 computers, all of which were on, accompanied by a couple chairs sitting infront of these computers, and an ashtray with a couple cigerette butts in it...When we took a look at the computers, they all read the exact same thing - "Earth Station One"...

So we kinda all got worried we're mucking about with something we shouldn't be, so we close the door back, put the rope just like we found it, and pack up in our cars and head out...

Well, being stupid teenagers living in a rural po-dunk town in the middle of nowhere Tennessee, we kept thinking about what we'd found up there at the Seismology station, so we went back up about a week or so later, with a female friend of ours who was really good messing about with computers (although, looking back with what I know now, she definatly wasn't a "hacker" by any means)...When we got there, the rope wasn't hanging out the door this time, so we kinda got a little nervous thinking someone else had been up there...We took out the trusty tire iron again, and popped the door open as we had before...Just like before, the computers were sitting there with the same words - "Earth Station One" on the monitors...

So my female friend sits down at one of the comps and starts typing, and immediatly, and I mean IMMEDIATLY, the computers all turned off...We freaked out, slammed the door back shut, and took off in our car...Now, the site of this old seismology station was roughly a mile back down a gravel road, in the middle of BFE nowhere, on goverment land (atleast, it was owned by the goverment at the time)...So I drove like a freaking madman to get off that property as fast as possible...

So we hit the main highway (highway 8) and turn in the direction of going back to town (McMinnville), and just as we go around this slight turn in the highway, we see a white van speed past going in the opposite direction...We were still able to see the turn for the seisomology station at this point, and watched as this white van turned to go onto the property...

Well, this didn't make us any less freaked out, You can imagine, so we drove our collective tails off to the little country store nearby, and parked there...We went inside, grabbed some chips and so forth, and came back outside and sat at this little picnic table outside the store...By this time, a little while has gone by since we took off, and we're joking about the entire situation...And round about that time, that same white van comes driving by the store, slowing down as it does such, and the guy driving (who's wearing what look like grey coveralls or a workman's jumpsuit of some kind) just stares at us all while he slowly drives by...

So we now all think "damn it, this guy is going to turn us in", so we worried he was indeed going to do so, we pile back in the car and drive after him...We caught up with him right about the time he was decending the plateau (the seismology station was on the upper cumberland plateau - or "Harrison Ferry mountain", as it's locally called- and McMinnville lay on the lower part of the plateau)...I stay behind him as well as I could, all the way into town...I know the guy knew we were following him, he had to, I was too obvious about it cause I was freaking out at the time...So we follow this guy all the way to the police station, where he then turns and goes in an entirely different direction...We kept following him until, finally, he hit the bypass and left town...

About 6 months or so after all this occurred, a huge truck went back there and moved the trailer and the Orb out (so I was told by resident who live nearby)...Not long afterwards (mabey a year or two), a tornado hit the main building up there and just ripped it to hell and back...A few more years later the goverment sold the entire property, and it was strip logged...The property is just now starting to be reclaimed by woods and 2 generation growth...

I've never known what the hell it was we stumbled upon up there, but over the years I've been given a few different possibilities from people I've mentioned this to...

One possibility, given to me by my army recruiter in late 94' was that it sounded to him alot like there may be a nuclear missle silo somewhere up on the property, and that may have been monitoring equipment...
My problem with this idea is who the hell in their right mind would have the monitoring equipment for nukes in a freaking trailer???...

Another guy (he told me this back in '93), and this one's out there I'll freely admit, thinks it was a UFO monitoring station, as he swore him and his dad (who supposedly was in the Air Force for a number of years) saw a big diamond shaped object up near that location, cross highway 8 before shooting off and disappearing...According to him, his dad commented "that's what they're monitoring up there"...Whether he was telling the truth, as to what he claims he saw, or as to what he claims his father said, I have no clue, but we did have quite the UFO incident near this location back in '95...State and local police (as well as some citizens who had heard about it on their scanners) drove after whatever the hell it was that went near the area...Like I said, it's way out there...

Either way, I've always wondered where the hell that white van came from, and how the hell it got there so damn fast from -insertwhereverhere-...

I've also always wondered why the hell the guy who showed up outta nowhere let us know that he knew we were up there, yet never turned us in...

I don't know to this day what the hell that place up there was for, but it was pretty freaking weird...

-Editted for spelling-

Damn that is really really freaking weird. One idea if I can propose it may have been some sort of survalliance data from spy satillites. Its entirely possible it was an old weather sat and this was just junk data, hence when touced it shut down (heck it could have been the last shutdown sequnce run and you just hit the off botton). Even more likely an old network that was esentially a forgotten piece of equipment that until you guys touched it set off an alarm or something.

I think it may have been part of Echelon (hey I liked Dues Ex:)). Bit fetched but it wouldn't suprise me that if Echelon is real the gov't would want to hide it in plain site. Eventually the gov't decideds to get rid off it because its noticed. Plus the guy in overalls may have been just as freaked as you. But hey I'm just trying to find an answer that won't stay in my mind and creep me out.

Damn, RH. Glad MIB haven't been trailing you!

We have been. We're just waiting for the right time.

Dan

Dont know if you'd call this creepy or not, considering some of the really creepy stuff on this thread, but I'll go ahead anyway. Bout ten years ago I started hunting a new spot that I had heard about, and had been going there for a few years when I found an area that had a whole bunch of deep depressions in the ground. They seemed to be laid out in somewhat of a pattern, and some had the remains of stone walls around them. I jumped down into one to look around and see if I could find out what they were. I found bottles, REALLY rusty cans, and all sorts of refuse. I also found that when I dug around along the sides, the holes seemed to be lined with stone kinda like a foundation. I figured they were the remains of old cellar holes from small cabins or shanties. Thing is, these holes were about 2 or 3 miles into the woods, and there was no visible road around. I did some checking and found out that they were the remains of an old mining camp. I hadn't realized at the time that there was a lead mine just up the road from my hunting area. Seems it's one of the oldest mines in the country, its called The Tantisques Reservation and its in Sturbridge Mass. Pretty cool to be out hunting and to stumble into a piece of local history.
Now if I could just get my hands on a metal detector, who knows what I could find up there.

That is a creepy tale Randy :new_thumbsupsmileyanim: .

Edited to add: I just remembered THIS place in the SW UK. You entered a space/time warp :icon_abduct: :laugh: .

That's because the alien escaped the MIB :new_lmaosmiley: You know, it's common knowledge they wear grey overalls and drive white vans! :wink:

Seriously though, that's one dang scary story RH!

RH, that's a great story, sounds like something just out of the X-Files......

Not sure what you found there Randy, but it was neat. Can you provide a Google Earth pic of the area or something (even though it has all been cleared out).



Not likely:



1) Missile silo - The locals would have known when it was being built. Extensive security procedures in place as well.



2) Intel operation - Doesn't sound extensive enough to control a satellite. Intel operations DO hide in plain sight, but they are surrounded by many extensive layers of security. You would have never gotten near the place had it been that.



3) UFO's - Well, ummm, who knows???

I have no idea on how to upload one of Google Earth's Kmz files so others can download em, but this link to terraserver will show exactly where all that took place -

Cumberland Plateau Observatory

I tried to look up Cumberland Plateau Observatory last night on Google, but didn't get much back save for links to STINET (Scientific and Technical Information Network), which is somehow associated with the Department of Defense...



Interestingly enough, if You click the bottom of the terraserver window a couple times from that location, You end up in one of the gulfs (Dry Creek Gulf) that I and my Bigfooting partner do alot of our research in...

:happy:

Mabey they were monitoring the seismic activity from Bigfoot feet falls... :laugh:

Dang it Randy, now I've got a good case of the heebie-jeebies. :icon_stressed:

That may just be one of the coolest thing's I've ever read!

I'll second that!

Randy, that's got to be one of the coolest stories I've ever read in my entire life. I'd love to have been there and seen that place.

"Earth Station One". Very intriguing.

Check out this link -

http://www.projectstrat.com/history.htm

Possible explanation?

I'll third that...if there is such a thing. :biggrin:
Great story Randy...I actually hung on every word after the first paragraph.

This is quite an interesting and entertaining thread...I hope more participate.

Interesting link Vol...it's certainly seems like a possible explanation.

All I know is of an Abrams tank driver (ed: commander he may have said) in California on exercises running into two facilities not on the map at two separate times. When he questioned the CO what the places were...

...the commanding officer said, pay no attention, they're there, but they are not!

At one site, a water tower structure was named Mars. Exercises in another location on another day revealed another watertower emblazoned with Neptune.

"It's there, but it ain't!" was his CO's comment, referring to the unpresence of the site on a mil map. From the witness' comments, helicopters painted black, not Army olive drab green, were roaming around.

Take it for what it's worth.

Some MIB's might make a stop at my place for just such a post. Have at it.

I'd like to die knowing rather than living as a dunce.

DR

PS edit: While waiting at an auto repair shop where the witness was an employee, I was reading Black Helicopters by Jim Keith and those are the remarks he volunteered as I went to pay with the book in hand.

Believe it or shove it.

That's pretty messed up and creepy Vol... :ohmy:

I hadn't really thought about any of this stuff for a few years atleast...I tried posting it on a forum years and years ago, and the moderator of that forum e-mailed me and told me he wouldn't allow me to post it, as he was afraid I'd get in trouble (as I was admitting to vandalizing goverment property)... :biggrin:

I know the incident definatly makes me wonder just what the hell might be sitting out there, in the middle of nowhere, that people would never expect being there in the first place...

Edit to include -

Don't know if this is relevent at all, but I found this at answers.com -

earth station
n.
An on-ground terminal linked to a spacecraft or satellite by an antenna and associated electronic equipment for the purpose of transmitting or receiving messages, tracking, or control.

http://www.projectstrat.com/index.html

This has nothing to do with hunting BF, but I used to have a job very near the small airport in Roseburg, OR. There was a "black chopper" that flew in and out of the airport often. It was painted flat black, had NO numbers, markings, lights, or anything on it. Even military choppers have lights and some writing on them (warning stickers and such). This had none. Flat black paint from tip to tail. It was a modern looking chopper like the ones the Coast Guard uses only smaller. It looked sleak and fast. It landed, shut down, and a fuel truck came and tended to it. The truck left a few minutes later and it fired up and left. Nobody got out or in.

I saw it a couple times a month for several months. I don't work there anymore, so I don't know if it still comes and goes or not.

17x7

MIB.

Sounds like Ft Irwin in California also known as the National Training Center. The place is absolutely huge.

Yeah, was going to ask if it was at the NTC. Otherwise, it would probably be at Camp Pendleton. If that stuff is there, you should be able to Google Earth and find it (might take a while though). The great thing about GE is that is allows everyone to become an imagery analyst... :biggrin:

Yeah, that's pretty cool. Those guy's are great, swooping around, chasing flying saucers, following political dissedents around. I was just listening to Alex Jones on Coast to Coast last night, jeesh :icon_abduct:.
Did it make any noise as it flew in?

My friend and I found on abandoned car on a country road once, somebody had busted the back window with a stick with all these peoples signatures on it (which is better then say, a body, but still). Weird.

My PC doesnt like google earth so i use Flashearth.com because you can switch and you also get street names etc.

Scott

This sounded http://www.guardiantales.freewebspace.com/JAN-Beast.htmllike somthing i have read before i did a little research heres the link to something like that http://www.guardiantales.freewebspace.com/JAN-Beast.html

One of the earlier posts on this thread mentioned Albino Colonies in New Jersey and/or California.

I grew up very close to Hicks Road in San Jose, the site of one of the alleged "Albino Colonies", and indeed this was part of our local lore. Hicks Road is near the old mercury and cinnabar mining town called New Almaden, and Quicksilver Park. My father (in the 30s and 40s) and I (in the 80s) spent a lot of time exploring the old mines in the hills there. We have relatives who lived off Hicks Road for years.

As a teenager, we used to party off Hicks Road and the subject of the Albino Colony always came up, but nobody I knew ever had any firsthand info. Plus, albinos were never that "freaky" to me as one of my closest friends to this day is albino. And no, she'd never heard about the colony, either. But it's weird to see the stories resurface on the internet after all these years!

I think many of the stories were inspired by the history of the place--lots of old cemeteries in the hills for miners, lots of old Indian graves, and of course the old structures from the mining operations.

But indeed, there were some really freaky, unrelated, verified stories about that area. There are methlabs in those hills, and a few pot fields as well (having run across the latter while riding my horses in Quicksilver Park). Overall, though, probably no creepier than any other rural outskirts of a major metropolitan area.

Lots of dumped bodies, murder tales, ghost stories, etc.

Many of us wondered about mercury poisoning in the water around there, so for those of you who makes the connection while reading this, I don't have any answers, but I sure as heck never ate any of the fish I caught in the local reservoirs.

I've had many a creepy experience in the woods, but the creepiest by far was when exploring some small islands in the San Juans. On one island--hardly more than a rock with a few trees--I found four dried up lampreys, carefully laid out in a row, well above the waterline as if on purpose. Mind you, this was about 100 yards from the nearest shore, in a cove only accessible by boat or floatplane. Gave me the creeps, and I cleared out pretty quickly (just a kid in an inflatable dinghy, on a boating trip with my family).

And in the Sierra Nevadas, in the ruins of an old cabin, friends and I found an ancient pair of green leather child-sized Leiderhosen (sp?). Nothing else. Just that.

And at low tide on a remote stretch of shoreline, no other people or prints in site, I found a sea anenome on a rock with a Power Ranger action figure sticking out of it.

Weird. :new_weirdsmiley:

maybe the albino colony tale was an offshoot inspred byt the very real and verifiable Blue Fugates family of Troublesome Creek Kentucky. A family that actually were blue in color.

http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyperry3/Blue_Fug...some_Creek.html