This seems to be a particularly well-documented, auditory report from a witness with not only a Zoology background, but a Music background as well, meaning she has well-trained ears. I've looked at Google Earth and Google Maps to try to figure out which body of water they're on - I see lakeside communities off of 99E on Grim Rd. NE and Lakewood Dr. NE, and off of Maple Leaf Ct. NE. I'm not sure if one of these is the correct location of the report, but they seem like the only lakeside residential locations.

As stated in the report, there are lots of orchard/farmland around the area...it is pretty close to 99E and to I5, pretty much right between the Coast Range and the Cascades. There are pockets of vegetation following the Willamette, where a creature could be concealed. It does seem odd that something would be wandering about this bottomland, if there are two mountain ranges surrounding the location, but the theory that perhaps the storm had driven the creature into the valley in search of food seems to be a possibility.

What do you think...check out the report, and take a look at Google Earth and Google Local. What do you thinkabout the topology of this area? Did a Sasquatch sneak in here in search of food? Do you have a rebuttal for this witness, who, again, has a good Zoology background, and is anything but tone-deaf?

Very interesting, I think. I'll look out for more reporting on this incedent.

hey omah wow this a very interesting new oregon bigfoot encounter. yes keep us informed ok. bill p.s. im sure this sighting location is on google maps. i hope you go the sighting location with a camera to look for possible sasquatch evidence.

While I respect Dr. Fahrenbach, I personally would not have considered this a report to post.

"This was most certainly a primate type call"

Pure speculation IMHO. And thanks to GC and T Steenburg, Chehalis has deflated the vocalization bubble a bit.

Did anyone check to see what a Siamang sounds like? Well, if you go to this page Siamang Page go down about 1/2 way on the right hand side to listen to a sound file. This sounds extremely close to a sound I recorded about 15 miles west of here, in a semi-swampy area along the Sugar River. But I know what I heard, and it wasn't primate, it was a flock of Canadian Geese, and were excited at something nearby, possibly a fox, coyote or similar animal that might want to make a snack out of them.

In this report it gives the date as Mid November which is the peak time of the Winter Migration of Canadian Geese. Aurora, OR is right smack in the middle of the Pacific Flyway which you can see on this page Pacific Flyway . The report states that the day before there was a bad winter storm, Geese will seek shelter during a storm if possible, or if they get caught in strong headwinds they will need to settle down someplace to rest after they come clear of the storm and it's winds. This small of a lake may not be their regular rest stop, but due to the storm could have been used. Witness also mentions sounds of splashing water. A flock of geese will attack a dog, and their wings are strong enough to inflict bruising.

If there's another example of a Siamang audio file that sounds significantly different from the one I found I'd like to hear it. As for right now I'd consider Canadian Geese as another possibility.

Canadian Geese Sound File Posted March 2006 by moregon This wasn't a large flock of geese so with additional goose voices I think it would be even more similar.

The problem with sightings that don't involve a sighting is that no matter how well trained the witness might be (or having perfect pitch for that matter) there is no possible way to assign a definitive identification.

Interesting post. I'm a goose hunter, and last season while hunting I heard a goose make several calls that were very much like some recorded howls purported to be from a bigfoot. But I know they were from a goose. It's pretty easy for people to let their imaginations run away with them.... :new_tiredsmiley:

If you're looking at the small lake between 99E and I-5 (which is the most likely candidate) it seems like an unlikely location. While the area is not heavily populated, it's not exactly sparse either. Tons of traffic on I-5 and 99E is pretty busy too. Not where I'd like to be if'n I was big and hairy.

There was a lot of conjecture in the report. Physical evidence would help. Limping dogs don't count.

I believe this is the area in ? I added a little to the map to show possible route of ingress and egress if it was a BF (which I doubt) from the Pudding River. All are a mile or less. The yellow is kinda hard to read but it reads.74 miles. Was a good excuse to play with the maps though. Report does mention the lights being out including the railroad which can be seen paralelling 99E.

Just to throw in my regional knowledge of Aurora, I work just a few miles North of Aurora and drive through Aurora frequently. While 99E and I-5 are both very busy they are fairly close to each other and run parallel to each other. The area is a developing area. Now a little more info if you go due east from Aurora it is about 20 miles or so to National Forest land, and there is little between aurora and said NF land except farms. There was also a report filed from 1997 that is about 4 miles due east of this report.

As for geese. This pocket of Oregon (most of Oregon actually), is absolutely loaded with Canadian Geese in November, especially little lakes. Just the other day there was a small flock in the grass area between the freeway and on ramp just a couple miles from here, and that's normal. 2 weeks ago at the crocery store I had a flock or multiple flocks all flying together of what I would estimate to be close to 400 birds fly over heard at a low level. Now listening to the siamang recording, it sounds an awful lot like small group of Geese to me. What is interesting though is I would think anyone who has a degree in Zoology and has lived int eh NW would be able to identify the sounds of Geese. We hear them all the time in fall and winter, so it's not at all an unusual sound. The fact that waterfowl are mentioned does make a person wonder as well.

A little more though is she describes it as a scream, which isn't a very goose kinda sound.