Haven't seen this Kiamichi photo, currently featured on the GCBRO message board.., discussed.

you mean that pic of a firefly. just kidding, but is that supposed to be a face? I can vaguely make out something if I tilt my head while standing 3 feet away and using my imagination.

Seriously though, are they saying this is a face ?


dav



edited to remove an errant "I"

Without context, it's just a picture of some branches with a little red dot in it.

I wish people wouldn't put pictures up like that and then ask for comments the way they did. IMO, it makes people defensive from the get go. Nobody wants to made a fool of.

Why am I doing this...

Anyway, after fooling with levels, it's a slightly clearer picture of branches with a red dot in it. I wonder what the smudgy spot below the red dot is?

For whatever it's worth, here's the original.

The concensus over there at the GCBRO seems to be that this photo shows a genuine "monster."

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE IT'S THE TREES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


if you blow up the pic, the red dot (firefly) looks like its about 3-4 feet off the ground.



dav

Cyclops bigfoot with red lipstick?


Jeepers. :new_weirdsmiley: :wink:

It looks photo-shopped to me.

Whatever it is that is causing the red shine, It's "not photo shopped" "I can gaurantee that".
It's from my game cam that was loaned out to a friend.

What appears to be a mouth may be leaf clutter. It's the red shine that was in question.

Well, I'll be. (Thanks, L!)
I said it looked photo-shopped as the bottom of what kind of looks like a mouth looked somewhat smeared.(?)
As for the other, some of you know what a smartass I can be from time to time. Sorry doll!

Forget about the blobsquatch in this photo -

I've circled the real cryptid in this image - an evil, pointy-eared fairy with an axe over his shoulder.
The fairy is just as clear as any other alleged monster in the image.

These sorts of photographs are ridiculous - - - you can find just about anything in them if you look hard enough.

:doh:

Criminey.

Some of this has been taken well out of context.

I had a bunch of activity on my place recently, and Lou lent me her game cam to see if I could get anything on it. It takes pics in series of 3, about a minute apart.

I stuck my digital camera's card in there, so if I wanted to check the pics, all I had to do was bring my camera down there, plop the card in that, and see what, if anything, was on the cam.

3 night shots showed up, with nothing in them that I could see, so I forwarded the thumbnails to Painthorse for her to check out. She emailed me right back, and said the middle one had this weird red eye-shine quality dot right in the middle of the pic. I then posted it on the internal SRI forum, and some people were emailed the original pics in full res. One guy did a .gif composite of all 3 pics, and it showed nothing more than just this red dot popping up in the middle pic, nothing more could be seen around the area.

Some others think they can make out a face behind it, I'm not sure.

I guess I was hoping for something big and hairy in the pic, a little more obvious. I did not post this pic suggesting it was a pic of anything, just thought it should be anayzed to see if anything could be found. I don't know who posted it on the GCBRO forum.

It has NOT been photoshopped. If anyone wants the original, pm me.

Painthorse,
Can you give us more details surrounding this picture?

Sorry, Scotto done did. Disregard Painthorse.

Yea, you can find anything in anything if you look hard ehough.
BUT it was the shine that raised an interest.

Nothing ridiculous about setting out cams to try and solve this mystery and getting something to question.
It may be inconclusive, but it's still something to analyze if there were something there.
At least we're trying, how bout you?

Perfect. That's what I meant when I said:


NOW we have something to talk about. Just posting a little cropped square onto a board and saying "What's that look like to you?" is pointless.

For the record, I'd love a copy of the original file.

Scotto,

You just have to have the right kind of filters. :smile:

There's clearly something there.


Just messin' with ya.

Scotto or Painthorse, do you have any photos of the same area in daylight?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!



Yep, got one with me in it for comparison, as a matter of fact.

Awesome. That's perfect!

I layered the daylight photo over the nighttime photo after drawing the red circle around the spot of light in the nighttime photo.

The eyeshine was where the faint red circle is behind Scott.

And I did this real quick and dirty...

It was hard to line up all the little branches. Anyone remember what the wind conditions were that night?

Frogsquatch?

One question and it may clear all of this up......is that a lake or pond behind those trees?

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These types of photos aren't just "inconclusive" - they aren't meaningful evidence of anything unusual in the first place. It's nice that you're experimenting and trying - but I'm really hoping that no one on this board actually is seeing anything worth analyzing in this photo. (As far as bigfoot evidence is concerned)

But thanks for the "At least we're trying- How about you?" sermon. Maybe I needed to be knocked down a peg or two. I'm not perched very high anyway.

I've been modestly contributing to a virtual Patty-Apologetics Ministry (P.A.M. for short) on the board for a little while - Nobody's proven anything conclusively even with fairly clear images that are clearly not just trees, fireflies, reflections from dew, or whatever. "But at least someone is trying".

There is nothing ridiculous about setting out cameras and trying to solve a mystery, that's for sure - more power to ya!, but the more of these types of photographs that get "analyzed" by pro-bigfoot people, the less credibility we ALL have.

I can totally understand presenting inconclusive photos and other types of evidence for both sides of the issue. What I can't understand is presenting evidence that isn't even compelling (Skookum cast comes to mind) or even worse - presenting what seem to be pretty obvious fabrications/hoaxes by probable fabricators and then "analyzing" them as if they have anything to do with solving any type of mystery. (Freeman footage comes to mind)

People seem to have the nerve to get within feet of these creatures - with a camera - but suddenly no one knows how to get decent images of what they are seeing? Hasn't anyone ever heard of telephoto lenses? I can take pictures of the polar ice caps on Mars with my backyard telescope for crying out loud - - - But yet somehow the bigfeet - millions of miles closer than Mars - remain nebulous blobs with a virtually perfect track-record of avoiding even modest detection.

The game cameras only seem to be able to capture decent images of known animals. But when the "bigfeet" show up, suddenly photons become distorted and fuzzy. "My camera jammed" - "I forgot my camera" - "The image is under/over exposed..... well..... except for these pictures of the deer and squirrels of course. :new_tiredsmiley:

I know I'm overreacting - sorry - but am I the only one that gets tired of seeing a bigfoot get shoe-horned into images that don't show anything all that clearly? I seem to be agreeing with BF skeptics' accusations of "wishful thinking" more and more everyday.

Looks like a boat?

I was wondering that too Scott. What's back behind the trees?

Very good soarwing.....couldn't have put it better myself....the pic shows the eyeshine of a frog or gator IF that is indeed a water source through those trees.....IMHO

Okay, I take it you are not buying into my HR Pufnstuf interpretation?

Isn't Pufnstuf a frog? Can't remember that far back, but I thought that is what he was. Anyhow, maybe the better names is Pufnsquatch.

Peregrine, that's too cute, lol. Kinda looks like a carved pumpkin, lol.

Soarwing, FWIW, niether of us said it was a b/f. Understand?
Due to some questionable activity <And I said questionable not absolute b/f related>
The cam was set out to try and capture what "might be attributed" to the activity.
Again---->No one can say the activity was attributed to a b/f. That was why the game cam was set out.

The red shine is what was questioned.
Was it eye shine??? We don't know.

It's inconclusive and questionable.

Now, some people are more apt at knowing how to use different programs to lighten up backgrounds, what's the harm in trying to see what's behind the shine, if it is eye shine?

The pic Scotto posted with himself in the pic.
He's standing in the creek bed and what appears to be water in the background is actually a pasture.
The guestimated height of the shine would be roughly 4', and again that's guestimated at this point.

Bipto, I can't recall the weather/wind conditions for that night.

Gators this far north is possible.
Frogs are definately possible.
Spiders also have red eye shine from what I have been told.
Some predators have red eye shine as do rabbits and opossums.

But the point is, is that there is nothing wrong with analyzing a pic when there has been questionable activity in a specific area.

Especially since "we are not claiming it to be a b/f"

Only wanting to try and find out what caused the shine.

The game cam is a digital Moultrie, I have also been told there's a possibility that the red dot could have been an artifact.

But you never know until everything is ruled out.

Pufnsquatch. I like it! :new_lmaosmiley:

We live very rural here in the Ouachita mountains of Arkansas, and there have been reports of people having sightings, multiple sightings, near my home. I had heard a few vocals last fall, and things heated up a few weeks ago, which is what prompted me to put the game cam out behind my house, by the creek, in the first place.

Taken out of my diary of events:



My son Mitch, who will be 20 in Jan., sort of thought there could be something out there, he's heard the vocals and wood knocking. But when we were having all of these rocks pitched at us, from the creek behind our house, he is now not very skeptical.

There are no teenagers that live by us, and nobody that I know of would be out, behind my house throwing stuff at us at 1:30 in the morning, unless they don't mind the thought of having a nice 12 guage slug sitting in their skull.

It's not like coons, deer, bear, etc. can throw rocks anyway. I don't know. The whole time this was going on, Mitch and I were looking at each other, like "No way is this happening to us right now."

I never saw any creature. I'm not claiming anything, just stating the facts here people. If you wanna speculate, or rip this to shreds, be my guest. This is just an account of what happened behind my house, and what prompted me to put that damn game cam out there in the first place.

It took about 50 pics, only 3 at night. In no other pics can I see what set it off, just looks like pics of the creek and surrounding trees. Just in the one night pic did that "red eye shine looking thing" show up. I'm not claiming that it's anything more than a photo artifact. Nothing has been "photoshopped." I didn't even notice it at first, it was pointed out to me later.

There you have it. That's all of my diary I'm posting for now, more stuff has happened since then.

I tell you what, if someone ever gets a video of some damned raccoon throwing a rock, it's gonna blow a hole a mile wide in all this bigfoot crap! :new_evil2:

:laugh:

Good idea with the diary. That rabbit comment is really weird. Can you elaborate?

Soarwing, you know good and well why the photons blur the image of Bigfoot. Don't make me break out the links.

:icon_abduct:


And Sir, the creature in your particular red circle is a goblin. Which although having a very generic nomenclature for a hideous little fairy - is actually a specific name for a particular fairy, belonging to the Unseelie Court. It is not carrying an axe, it is clearly carrying a pick - a miner's tool. Because that is what they do. The Goblins.

H.R. Pufnstuf was a dragon on a Sid and Marty Krofft Saturday morning show laden with pot references for Pete's sake ... but not to be confused with Pete's Dragon. :new_tiredsmiley:
Featured Jack Wild as 'Jimmy' the boy with the magic flute. Wild also portrayed the Artful Dodger in Oliver, and passed away in March of this year due to throat cancer.


/random rambling off

Context is everything. Scotto and Painthorse have made it clear that the photo wasn't meant to represent Bigfoot ... or Pufnstuf for that matter. (Awesome job btw Peregrine)
The dot has received it's requisite analysis and mockery - just like everything else. I do hope that whatever events are transpiring in the area - yield up an answer for you, pictures or not.

Well, this was the first night that all this weirdness started.

My son went outside for a smoke (he unfortunately smokes, like me) and heard something big moving thru the trees behind the house. He at first thought it might be one of the neighbors horses.

He heard a rock hit the ground, and then this rabbit runs up from the woods, right next to him, he said it was like it ran up to him, for protection, or something. Well Mitch was just staring at this rabbit, like WTF, when a rock almost hit the rabbit, and it ran off.

By this time he is getting weirded out, it's really late (or early in the am), and then rocks start to get slung near him, all seemed to be coming from the woods. He can't see them, but he hears them thudding the ground, or coming thru the big oak tree in the backyard, like whatever is throwing them is trying to make some noise with the rocks. He finishes his smoke and goes back inside, and tells me about it the next day.

2 days later, it got really bizarre with both of us back there.

It made a profound impact on Mitch, I think Painthorse and her family came over the next day or day after, and Mitch took Chas back there to tell him and show him where this stuff happened.

Quite frankly scotto, I'm glad the dot got posted now.

Have things quieted down?
Whether it's racoons, mountain monkeys, or crazy neighbors, things being thrown at you from the dark is unnerving and dangerous.

It's been pretty quiet the past few nights, but we have been sick over here, and the weather has been nasty. We've not been up as late as when the stuff usually gets going, around 1 am for some reason.

I just hope the rocks don't get much bigger. My wife is not a happy camper with this stuff going on.

FWIW, we had something similar happen here the latter part of April. We had, my son and self several large rocks chucked at us in broad daylight and had a visual of a small black critter. Can't prove it, can only tell it like it was.
I had decided to walk to the mailbox a good 1/4 mile from the house and as I walked out the door I heard what sounded like metal on metal, like someone hammering a metal fence post in the ground. 2 loud clanks.
I thought someone was messing around on the adjoining property behind my front horse paddock and focused in just in time to see a small black bipedal thing running at full speed, no taller than 3 1/2'. I ran in the house and got my son and we started walking, tried to find what it was hitting on and found squat. Started walking the road and got a total of 6 rocks heaved, 5 landed in the woods and the 6th one barely missed my head and landed in the road and I snatched it up. After several more minutes the dog and wolves started going off and my son started walking towards the house and stopped and pointed into the woods just as I saw movement, I saw it "leap" behind a large tree, got a rear view of it.
It started getting dark and we headed back towards the house, in the yard we had 3 more rocks heaved at us.
No we didn't actually see what was throwing the rocks, but.....................

My husband found a partial heel print and 2 days later a small print was found and cast in the same area of the partial print.

No, can't say that what we saw made the print, but I would guess that it's possible that something 3 1/2' tall could fit the size print that was found.

Nothing conclusive on the game cams, only thing captured was white eye shine.

Have fun :biggrin:

Scotto,
From your house to the back fence line, how far a distance is it? Asking because if it continues to happen with the rock throwing, we can run down with the DVR system and run out 2 night vision cameras (200 feet distance) and see what it gets. The cameras are high quality night vision. Just let me know if you want us there.

Probably about 65 yards or so, and then another 80-100 to the creek bottoms itself. The land drops down very sharply into the creek bed, something like an elephant could walk back there, and not be seen from my back steps. The creek runs from the mountains to the north of me, south into the Ouachita River. Lots of vocals have been heard from the river area, and one lady who lived along the river, had multiple sightings through the years there.

Very good habitat. If it stuck to traveling the creek, it could be about invisible from the road all the way into the Ouachita Natl. forest.

I will say that I'm the one who cast the print, and we had 3 rocks thrown at us at that time. This was my first time to have rocks thrown at me.

Painthorse lives in an area you could seriously call B.F. Egypt. Right smack in the middle of the Ouachita Mntn. range, nothing but mountains and wilderness all around. Very beautiful, and very remote.

Okay, so 1 camera at 400 feet. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

I feel for her. I'd take her out to a nice romantic dinner, cover all the windows with heavy drapes, and learn to say, "No honey, I'm very sure you didn't just hear "hey, can I get some garlic out here???"

Nope, HR Pufnstuf was green with red hairs.....like all good bud.
Forward facing eyes, that's a predator of some sort.
Cat? Owl? Primate? T-Rex?
With that big mouth, I think it's safe to rule out the owl and the cat.
Couldn't be a type of primate, that's too easy, I'll go with dino!

:popcorn2: Keep working and please keep us posted! Thanks for the updates.

Face in the clouds, not even a good one. Look at other regions of the pic and you will also see faces. You can see faces about anywhere if you try.

I see absolutely nothing in the pic that indicates a "monster".

Whatever you do, DON'T take her out for a 'romantic' dinner!! :new_weirdsmiley:


:laugh:

It's got an awfully big mouth whatever it is..

I had the pleasure of visiting Painthorse's property this weekend and I can vouch for the fact that her area is THE perfect place for bf activity. My hubby kept saying "dang, I thought we lived in the boonies!" :laugh: And the leaves in their full fall colors would take your breath away.

I don't know what the red dot is in the game cam picture, but I do appreciate Scotto and Paint out there looking and being open about what they find.

It's sorta like a very good friend said to me just yesterday when we were talking about a piece of possible evidence..."It may not be proof, but it's danged sure fun to look at." :wink:

Now that's creepy...