Albert Ostman's Abduction

This is just a breif story of Albert Ostman's Abduction on skookumquest.com:


(His wording on the stroy, first person)

I have always followed logging and construction work. This time I had worked over one year on a construction job, and thought a good vacation was in order. B. C. is famous for lost gold mines. One is supposed to be at the head of Toba Inlet — why not look for this mine and have a vacation at the same time? I took the Union Steamship boat to Lund, B.C. From there I hired an old Indian to take me to the head of Toba Inlet. This old Indian was a very talkative old gentleman. He told me stories about gold brought out by a white man from this lost mine. This white man was a very heavy drinker — spent his money freely in saloons. But he had no trouble in getting more money. He would be away a few days, then come back with a bag of gold. But one time he went to his mine and never came back. Some people said a Sasquatch had killed him.

At that time I had never heard of Sasquatch. So I asked what kind of an animal he called a Sasquatch. The Indian said, "They have hair all over their bodies, but they are not animals. They are people. Big people living in the mountains. My uncle saw the tracks of one that were two feet long. One old Indian saw one over eight feet tall."

I told the Indian I didn't believe in their old fables about mountain giants. It might have been some thousands of years ago, but not nowadays.

The Indian said: "There may not be many, but they still exist."

We arrived at the head of the inlet about 4:00 p.m. I made camp at the mouth of a creek ...The Indian had supper with me, and I told him to look out for me in about three weeks. I would be camping at the same spot when I came back ...

Next morning I took my rifle with me, but left my equipment at the camp. I decided to look around for some deer trail to lead me up into the mountains. On the way up the inlet I had seen a pass in the mountain that I wanted to go through, to see what was on the other side.

I spent most of the forenoon looking for a trail but found none, except for a hogback running down to the beach. So I swamped out a trail from there, got back to my camp about 3:00 p.m. that afternoon, and made up my pack to be ready in the morning. My equipment consisted of one 30- 30 Winchester rifle, I had a special home-made prospecting pick, axe on one end, pick on the other. I had a leather case for this pick which fastened to my belt, also my sheath knife.

The storekeeper at Lund was co-operative. He gave me some cans for my sugar, salt and matches to keep them dry. My grub consisted mostly of canned stuff, except for a side of bacon, a bag of beans, four pounds of prunes and six packets of macaroni, cheese, three pounds of pancake flour and six packets of Rye King hard tack, three rolls of snuff, one quart sealer of butter and two one-pound cans of milk. I had two boxes of shells for my rifle.

The storekeeper gave me a biscuit tin. I put a few things in that and cached it under a windfall, so I would have it when I came back here waiting for a boat to bring me out. My sleeping bag I rolled up and tied on top of my pack sack, together with my ground sheet, small frying pan, and one aluminum pot that held about a gallon. As my canned food was used, I would get plenty of empty cans to cook with.

The following morning I had an early breakfast, made up my pack, and started out up this hogback. My pack must have been at least eighty pounds, besides my rifle. After one hour, I had to rest. I kept resting and climbing all that morning. About 2:00 p.m. I came to a flat place below a rock bluff. There was a bunch of willow in one place. I made a wooden spade and started digging for water. About a foot down I got seepings of water, so I decided to camp here for the night, and scout around for the best way to get on from here.


Whats your guys thought on this ONE?
Preety odd but interesting story.

At first blush (and even second, third, and fourth blushes) the Ostman story seems unbelievable. However, Ostman did include in his story many attributes of sasquatch behavior that were not consistently reported by others until much later. Also, his story remained very consistent his entire life. John Green believes it, for whatever that's worth. I suppose there's no way to really know, now, but it's one hell of a story.

A very detailed 15-page account based on an interview by Green can be found in Robert Alley's outstanding Raincoast Sasquatch.

The Ostman story has always been one of my favorites. In fact I'll go as far as to say it was his story and the Ape canyon story along w/ Ruby Creek incident that turned me truly into a bigfoot 'seeker'!

I have always liked that story alot, especially the premeditated snuff feeding. I have a deep suspicion that ostman saw a bigfoot while exploring for gold. ( He was not kidnapped) I think the part of the story about getting lost and found by the logging crew was true. I think after The Northren California episode made him yern for spotlight and added to story to make it sensational. I think he must of saw a male at close range. His description of the female doesn't fit the william roe description or patterson film.

Keep in mind that Ostman told the same story again and again without changing a detail. And it's probably not a good idea to dismiss accounts based on other accounts.

He described her as meek and old. Roe's female was adolescent, wasn't she? Patty appeared mature and in good shape.

I couldn't get the link to work, but here's another one for the rest of the account:

http://www.bigfootencounters.com/classics/ostman.htm

Just my feeling, I have read his story many times. What is so hard about making up a story and sticking to it. I think he did see a Squatch in his lifetime, (Did not have to be on that trip) He descriped the penis size as small maybe he read about male gorillas. Maybe he saw a real male bigfoot, and added the rest.

That's my feeling too--he had elements that were true, either from an observation or from hearing tales of others, and he embroided it to make it a more interesting campfire tale. Barbara Wasson thought that his consistency indicated that he'd memorized it and talked himself into it. His female's goose-walk waddle wouldn't have been due to old age, I don't think, so I agree that this is truly inconsistent with the Roe & Patterson creatures. I think Green in recent years has expressed regret at having initially accepted the Ostman story.

True or false it is my favorite story. Bigfoot is real and will be proven someday.

I was just wondering ... after John Green's interview of Ostman, did he (Ostman) ever give any more precise details to Green??? Did he at lease name the indian???? Did he talk about other things that could be searched for. Like, I recall reading that he stuck his axe to a tree trunk at his base camp but which base camp was he talking about????

It would be nice if we could get a report of the Green's interview per vertam. I would like to read it.

Stay tuned,

He found the good camp with a nice little spring and good area for prospecting. He said that a intruder came for 2 nights before kidnaping. He stuck axe in tree on one of the nights.

& he said she walked like a Goose !!! :biggrin:

To me, the Ostman story is fantastic & not out of the question...

By not out of the question, i believe that the way he described the living of a Family Group is possible with both Mum & Dad out getting food & the Kids not venturing vast distances away from home...

Also descibing their inquisitive nature has a certain element of truth in it based on reports.sighrting in the years following up to now !!

I also feel the amount of detail that he gave with regards to the way he was carried off ?& the pain that he had in his legs that stopped blood circulation...

If the story is true, this would have happened..

Either Ostman was telling the truth about the whole thing, or the Guy had a fantastically descriptive imagination & should have been writing & ultimately selling Books as he had an obvious talent.

Heres another link with much more storys with it. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

http://www.skookumquest.com/sasquatch/skoo...ters_ostman.htm





Heres another link with much more storys with it. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

http://www.skookumquest.com/sasquatch/skoo...ters_ostman.htm

The longest account I've read is in Raincoast Sasquatch. It doesn't appear to be a verbatim transcript of Green's notes, but it is written from them.

I've ordered it. Hopefully I won't end up with three copies.

You will not be disappointed. RS should be in everyone's library. A wonderful book.

Who did you ordered from????????? Amazon.com???????????? Please provide a link so that I too can order it.

Has anyone conferred with John Green regarding this interview??? What does he state about it? Has Green uncovered additional clues about the actual location of where Ostman was taken by the drunk indian???

I have heard that the famous hunter/guide (can't recall his name at the moment) that is alleged to have stolen the Yeti's hand or fingers, went on an expedition to Toba Inlet to try to locate or backtrack Ostman's footsteps. I also understand that this famous hunter/guide could not confirm any part of Ostman's story because he could NOT locate the exact part where the indian let off Ostman.

Therefore, it was concluded that Ostman was not taken to the mouth of Toba Inlet. Has anyone actually tried to verify this part of the Ostman's story??? What did John Green say about this????

Stay tuned,

Exscuse me LAL, I was just wondering where you orderd it from, if you can tell me that would be great .
Thankyou,
B:IB

AbeBooks.com has five at the moment. Amazon.com has six, but they're expensive.

Thank you, Bipto :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

Barnes and Noble has 1 from an authorized reseller.....and it's mine! all mine! :laugh:

Holy Cow, the last of those ABE resellers wanted over $72 for his copy. It wasn't signed or hardback, so what's the deal?

Thanks Bipto, I ordered my book today. Hope I get it soon.

Im goin to order it next week :eek3dance:

finally i'm goin read a book. jk :laugh: