Hi all. As I've said in an earlier post, the reason I joined this board was to get opinions on what I saw last Wednesday, October 18th. And before anybody asks, no I don't have photographic evidence.



I live in New Jersey and recently just got back from a vacation with my family. We left on the 9th and came back on Friday. We stayed at Wyoming.

At around 7 or 8 in the morning, my two cousins, my uncle, and I were exploring the Medicine Bow national forest. My twelve year old cousin saw it first. She grabbed my arm and pointed behind me. It was 25 feet away and looked about 6 foot 5ish. Its fur was dark brown and had a very human face. The closest it came to us was maybe 14 feet. I swear it looked at us while it was walking past us. None of us were really afraid. I didn't feel like our lives were in danger or anything even when it looked our way. It did send a chill up my spine though. It remained in our view for another minute or so until it passsed through a patch of trees.
Insight anybody?

Well, i believe you. But i have encounters like every day in this past week, this week has been very strange.
I dont know whats goin on and just today this morning we heard a bigfoot interaction , it was like trying to copy what we were saying and it was moving throught the bushes. we started walking away.I came back with my voice recorder but we heard nothing but what sounded like wood knocks. But, we did get us screaming and running away from such creature about 3 days ago while we were exploring.

But, your story is very intersting and believable.

I hope to hear back :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

O, yea also i lived in NJ...very cool state and weird .

But let me tell you ive had an encouncter in NJ once and it was my first and also it kinda changed my life from thta day i was very little then.

If you want to find bigfoot again travel to the pine barrens in NJ :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

I take it that most of the above post was sarcasm........

No realy! I wouldnt do that.

hey angelic wow thats a very interesting sasquatch encounter you posted indeed, do you have a google map of the sighting location. can you possibly draw a sketch of the sasquatch seen. good evening bill :bf: welcome the bff you will like it here.

I dont think that he was trying to be sarcastic.

You mentioned that you didn't feel afraid or threatened. 14 feet is pretty close. Do you think that it came closer to get a better look at you guys or did it not notice you until it was walking past.

What did its face look like, you mentioned it looked very human. How closely did it resemble a human's face, as in nose, eyes, mouth etc.

It would be interesting to hear your perspective while it is still fresh in your mind and since the creature came so close to you and your group.

I would also encourage you to post your encounter at http://www.texasbigfoot.com which is an honest and credible bigfoot research org.

No, we weren't afraid. It didn't seem to be a threat. It was very passive. If it ran towards us, I would have been scared as hell. But that wasn't the case. Sure, it saw us. But it wasn't interested in us in the least. All it did was look at us and went on its way.

Eyes and mouth looked similar to a human's, but not the nose. The nostrils were bigger than a human's and it didn't really slant.

bigfoot: i believe

Sorry if you weren't being sarcastic. The story about how a bigfoot is trying to copy what somebody's saying just sounds a bit weird.

I think I need some help getting the scene down. Sorry, but lots of questions...

Were you walking along a trail? If so, was it a hiking trail or more like a game trail?

How far were you from roads or other man-made structures?

Were there any other people in the area? If so, did you see them?

From what I can gather, it walked past you with a closest pass of about 14 feet. You say you could swear it looked at you. Does that mean you could not tell if it looked directly at you? If it did, could you "see the whites of its eyes"?

Was it walking along the same path you were? Can you describe the area it was walking from and to? Was the general area wooded or open?

Did it make any sounds?

Did you smell anything?

How much do you think it weighed?

Can you describe its build?

Can you remember anything about the distribution of hair? For example, how much hair covered its face? Did you see any other ares where skin was visible?

Did you look for tracks?

What were the genders of those in your group? You say one was your uncle and one was a female 12-year-old. I assume you're a female. Do you mind telling me your age? What gender and age is your other cousin?

How long had you been in the area? Have you been there before?


B:IB, why don't you start another thread for your encounters. It'll make this one neater if we're only discussing a single story.

Thought of a few more. Take your time. It's better to post replies to these things more slowly and carefully rather that quickly...

Relative to how fast a person normally walks, how fast was this going?

How would you describe its demeanor? Did it seem perturbed in any way?

Off topic:
Jack Skellington kicks ass!
Also, I know I have "Angelic" in my username, but I'm a guy. I suppose one would have to follow pro wrestling in order to get the name.







More like a large area of grassland. We were about a litte more than an hour away from the mountain Gannet Peak.


Fairly close. Maybe 3 miles?



None in sight, no.



I know it looked at me. It locked eyes with me.



As I said above, we were in an area of a grassland. I didn't see where it came from. I'll ask my cousin when I get the chance since she saw it the longest. We were very close to a patch of woods, but not in it. That's where it disappeared. The general area was open.



It was making slight grunting noises as it walked past us.



Yeah, it had an odor to it.



I'd say around 190-200.

I'll add the rest later if that's OK.

Hey AngelicEnigma....an interesting encounter is it...please keep the details coming...but take your time...

Take a look at the Painted Cave and see if you can find a face and body shape that closely matches what you saw. I would be most interested in seeing what you come up with.

Hi AngelicEnigma....welcome to the board!

My question.....how did the creature compare with the subject of the Patterson film...as far as the shape of it's head, and hair on it's face and chest area?

Thanks in advance! :popcorn2:

Damn. You caught me! :laugh:

This is a good thread, I am very interested to hear more details...


:popcorn2:

Welcome AngelicEnigma,

There are several artists here who visit the forum and have websites with their renditions of sasquatch. One website is Oregon Bigfoot with many different artists, you could take a look and see which one might be similar to the one you saw that day and let us know. Thanks for posting your encounter.

Here's a link: http://www.oregonbigfoot.com/art_gallery.php

Sunflower

I like your report. But I do have a problem with the height/weight ratio. 190-200 pounds would make it very light compared to a human of the size you reported. Let alone even to slim b.f. reports I have. If you made a mistake on the weight, I must say you are one of the few people who have under-estimated the weight.

Could you be a bit more spaciffic on the smell your party smelled.

Could you say how long the first person saw the subject. And how long did you personally see it. Also how far did it move until it passed out of sight.

Thank you for your report.

Damn, peeps! I'm having trouble keeping up with all of your questions! :laugh:

CoolFoot and billkirbywofb

I guess I could be wrong about the weight. What I was going to add was, it appeared to resemble the creature in the Patterson video fairly well, but it wasn't as huge. Its shoulders weren't as wide and it was shorter. It walked much the same way though. The sketches that are provided in the Oregon Bigfoot link don't seem to have much similarities. It' not like they're way off, it's just that I haven't seen any drawings that I could say "THAT'S IT". Blackbear has sent me a PM asking me to describe the creature in detail so he can draw it.





Don't get me wrong, this thing could have done some damage if it wanted to. But it didn't look like the stereotypical "Bigfoot". It looked ape like, such as with the way it walked, looked, and sounded. Still, not an overly large muscle ammount.





The 2 areas of its body I remember distinctly not having a lot of hair was its face and hands.





Can't say that we did.





*ignores being called a female*

My other cousin is also a girl and she is 5 turning 6 on November 9th. My uncle is 35 and I'm 18.




We were there for about 30 minutes before we saw it. This was my first time there.

And last no doubt...hehe. Or, do you plan on going back ever?

:popcorn2:

Much faster than human. It was 25 feet away from us when my cousin pointed it out and took it 30 seconds to reach us.



Very relaxed and indifferent.




Hell yeah I wanna go back I know it's a long shot, but I'd like to see it again.

Don't take this the wrong way, but:

I believe it could have moved faster than humans, but this was just funny. I know I can move more than 25-feet in less than 8 seconds and just by walking.

Could you have meant 25 yards?

Er, yeah. Shows how smart I am huh? Can't even describe its weight right.......

Welcome to the club. I think there are more of us out there, that don't know where to turn, or don't want to be thought of as a crackpot. Good luck!

I wasn't trying to come off like that...I knew what he meant, just wanted to point out that it made me chuckle.

Oh no Ivan, I wasn't saying you were, not at all. I was just welcoming Angelic to the club of those that have seen one. I think there really are more out there than what we have reports for. It took me a year to report my sighting. No idea where to go, who to talk to about it, and what would people think of me for doing so. I just knew everyone was going to think I was a complete headcase. The more I thought about what happened to me, the more I needed to know I wasn't the only one out there, seeing this stuff. There is a ton of info out there online, but sometimes it gets tough wading thru the real stuff vs. the absolute whacko stuff, to help us better deal with what we experienced. I can tell you this upfront. I haven't met a single person, where a good solid Class A sighting hasn't completely changed their life. Me included.

Thanks, that is cool.

It is wierd though, because anyone I talk to about it doesn't seem like they think of me as a 'headcase.' Usually they think it is interesting ane want to know more. For the people that think bigfoot isn't real...they don't really react negatively to me, they just say they don't think there is a hairy monkey man running around in the American woods.

I usually follow up their disbelief with the facts of how and when african gorillas were 'officially' discovered.

There were stories of the great apes going back to the early man. Let's just say for argument sake that the rumors did not circulate the population until 500 B.C. Gorillas were not 'officially' recognized as being true and fact until the early 1900's. This is 1400 years before they were found and 'scientifically proven' to exist.

Bigfoot lore and mythology has only been sought & recoreded going back to the 16-1700's. We have a long way to go if you compare the time-lines. Given our increased Western-zed lifestyles, our increased technology, etc...that does not make much difference at this point in time, as those woods where these creatures live is as wild as it has ever been. A camera in the middle of L.A. does not change the geography or take away a hiding-hole for bigfoot in the Ozarks or in Bluff Creek.

I also tell them that I don't think it is some human-gorilla hybrid or relative. I tell them that if they do exist, they are simply a type of great ape that has evolved to the point of walking upright, just as we have as humans.

I also try to reassure them that I am not a nut, and I know there are people out there who are, just like the woman who claims bigfoot visits her and asks her for garlic to ward off the insects and that he talks to her...now...that...I take as a headcase. But, to say that someone who has seen something which is not currently fully known to man is a headcase...that is just not a response I have ever heard from anyone whom I have talked to it about. Note, I have not seen bigfoot, I am just speaking in general terms.

I haven't felt that telling anyone my stories/beliefs would discount or discredit my reputation or my ability to be part of the world in which I work or play. Perhaps I am young and simply part of a younger, more open-minded generation, but I haven't had any negative interactions with people when I talk to them about wildlife, bigfoot and so forth.

EDIT: As a matter of fact, most younger people my age hope that bigfoot is in fact real. Though young people may seem to be uncaring at times, it is simply the fact that they were not brought up to be able to control or express their feelings. Wanting such a thing to be real, in my mind, is a way of people saying they hope there is something more peaceful, serene and wonderful in this world than the world we all live in where war, hate, neglect and crime reins supreme.

Like you I don't believe in some hybrid man/monkey either. I'm a Christian and so I don't believe it's the missing link either. The other day my barber, who is also a biker, like me, were talking about good rides. Places with lots of scenary. I told him I would like to try hwy 299 (Northern California). He proceeds to tell me about earlier this year, when he and his wife did the Redwood Bike Rally. After the run was over, them and some other guys had decided to do 299 all the way across to hwy 395. That first night they got half way between 101 and Weaverville. They pulled over on the side of the road at a little meadow and creek, and just rolled out there sleeping bags to spend the night. He then tells me you hear all kinds of noises out there at night, and he looks really nervous as he is telling me this. So I look at him and ask him, "Let me guess, screams, growls, howls, whoops"? Then he says there was some growls along with some whistles, and alot of branches getting broken and stuff, but it seemed to come from 3 different areas all at once"! I start laughing and then in a low voice, cause the barber shop is full, I tell him I think I know what may have made those noises. I tell him Bigfoot, expecting a "BS no freaking way" or something to that point. He instead says "I thought that was proven to be a hoax, that one guy up north running around with the wooden feet". I get his email address and send him some of the recordings I have that include whistles. He listened to them after he got home and called me up immediately, yelling "OMG, That was it!! The whistles at the end of the growl sound"!!! Anyway, that whole exchange went along the same lines as you are saying. Non believers not actually calling me crazy, and the uninformed actually listening. I think it's probably my own perception of how I would have acted if someone I knew told me they had seen BF. Or at least until I saw mine.

Hey the Angelica... if this was a real encounter please find an artist rendition of the creature. If you are serious then you will spend time to research this aspect; else the story is a nice read that we can soon forget.

WTF? It's not ANGELICA. AngelicEnigma..........


Right now I'm replying to Blackbear's PM that he sent me.

No problem, but theres been many reports where bigfoot do try to copy other voices. Very interesting, check it out on bfro.net

I did bipto, its in NJ sightings (which i started) just come and check it out. But, My storys are in the middle of some of the posts.
And also, i have a very interesting story that happend about maybe 4-5 years ago. I'll send it too you when I have time.
From,B:IB

Yikes. That seems a little harsh, eh?

Not harsh, in light of the fact that Angelica replied by saying a bad word(s)...

I was just following suit or forum etiquette, i.e. when someone comes in the forum with a story I thought we were supposed to question/badger a little, no?

: )

Sorry AngelicaEnigma.

What "bad word" did I say? And stop being a troll and calling me Angelica........

LOL :laugh:

I'm 6 foot 5 and 275 and by no means anywhere near as robust as Patty

Alex

:biggrin:



Don't you see the bad word there... ? :glare:

YEA Well its alright

Nope I don't see any bad words. Are you guys the morality police? Wanna guess where I found this? :wtf:


And if he doesn't want to be called Angelica don't call him that..all you're doing is this. :pokey:

I'm not even sure what exactly is going on in this thread, but I believe it has gone a little overboard and I agree with Blackdog.

Give the guy a break.

What I think whats going on is just a bunch of stupidty , but it is funny




Just like i said before its all rite its not like he's really saying it.

:yeahthat:

:new_jerry:
:black-eye:
LOL

I think too many nested quotes make Baby Jesus cry.

One more thing about this stupid argument, Blackbear did not say angelica it was monkey.B

monkey brick, stop with the angelica crap.

And people please, stop quoting dang near every post that's been made in the thread. Good grief!

LOL, Bitter Monk

Nested Quotes Make Baby Jesus Cry. That's a frickin' t-shirt if I ever saw one.

Amen, brother. Amen.

Amen :new_sleepysmileyanim:

I finally sent the details to Blackbear. Hopefully a sketch will be made soon.