there are stories from native americans, regarding "the little people". any feed back? anyone?
i've been to three other reservations, a couple in the south and on the pine ridge reservation. all stories are basically similiar, with accounts of "them" living in the trees. one tribe claimed they lived in the pine trees and there was clumps of cones and boughts, in certain parts of the trees. one account stated that at night, their eyes glowed red and that "they" can get you lost in the woods, if you wasn't in the right frame of mind (i.e. depressed, drunk, etc.)
i heard of accounts of older people, that feed them. they leave the food (on plates) and in the morning, the food was gone and the plates were neatly stacked. (the location of this story, was out in the country)
i have more....but i just got off the midnight shift...may others can add to this topic, laters
Full Version: Little people.....anyone?
I have about 20 or so little people stories collected. I haven't collected all that I've seen because I am only really interested in bigfoot stories. Those that I have collected "appear" to generally be little bigfoots (so young ones) or the stories have a mix of little people and giants in the same story.
From the best I can tell, little people stories are not nearly as wide spread as bigfoot stories. So far the majority are from the south and east...very, very few are found west of the Rockies.
From the best I can tell, little people stories are not nearly as wide spread as bigfoot stories. So far the majority are from the south and east...very, very few are found west of the Rockies.
Is there a possibility that little people could be "little bigfoot people?" I have a feeling that mature sasquatch might just put their little ones in trees while they hunt at night.
Sunflower
Sunflower
Kids are always getting into trouble. I bet the little people are sasquatch young'uns that are curious and getting too close to those 'pesky humans'.
I've never put much stock into stories about "Little People", and by that I mean really little people, sometimes called fairies, elves, leprachauns, etc etc etc. HOWEVER... no, I didn't see one! after looking at the picture of the "Pygmy Marmosets", I have to pause and wonder if monkeys can get that small, what would stop a human from developing that small as well?
I'm pretty sure we'd know by now if they were near a modern population, but what about in some remote area, or a small island somewhere? Until we know for sure, please watch where you step! :wink:
I'm pretty sure we'd know by now if they were near a modern population, but what about in some remote area, or a small island somewhere? Until we know for sure, please watch where you step! :wink:
The everyday cultural world of the Cherokee includes spiritual beings. Even though the beings are different from people and animals, they are not considered "supernatural." They are very much a part of the natural, or real, world and most people at some point in their lives, have an experience with spiritual beings. One group of spiritual beings still talked about by many Cherokees, are the Little People. They are invisible unless they want to be seen. When seen, they look very much like any other Cherokee, except they are very small, and have long hair, sometimes to the ground. The Little People live in various places, such as rock shelters, caves in the mountains, laurel thickets, etc. They like drumming and dancing, and they often help lost children. Not only physically lost, but sometimes saddened children and those who are going through the tough times of growing up. They are also known to be quite mischievous at times. The Little People need to be dealt with carefully, and it is necessary to observe the traditional rules regarding them. They don’t like to be disturbed, and they may cause a person who continually bothers them to become 'puzzled' throughout life. Because of this, traditional Cherokees will not investigate or look when they believe they hear Little People. If one of the Little People is accidentally seen, or if he or she chooses to show himself, it is not to be discussed or told of for at least seven years. It is also a common practice to not speak about the Little People after night fall.
From www.cherokee.org
From www.cherokee.org
I have little people in my house. I must have. I have never seen them, but they move stuff all the time. Like the remotes, important papers, pens, and eyeglasses.
If I go to the kitchen for some donuts, they are usually none left. I ask my son what happened to them, and his reply is always "I don't know." If I ask him why his dirty socks are laying in the living room, I get the same response. So, I think they like donuts and mark their territory with dirty socks.
I think they also use the rest of the toilet paper, because there is never any left on the roll when I go in there. They also like to mess around and take the cap off the toothpaste, put brown marks in my sons underwear (Always I don't know there too), spook the dog, put flies in coffee, etc.
My wife is always screaming "Who moved my" this and that, so I know they dig into her stuff a lot. I think they also smoke cigarettes, cuz mine go away much too quickly. They take money out of my wallet, and I wish they stacked my dishes when they were done with them.
If I ever see them, I'll ask them to stop.
If I go to the kitchen for some donuts, they are usually none left. I ask my son what happened to them, and his reply is always "I don't know." If I ask him why his dirty socks are laying in the living room, I get the same response. So, I think they like donuts and mark their territory with dirty socks.
I think they also use the rest of the toilet paper, because there is never any left on the roll when I go in there. They also like to mess around and take the cap off the toothpaste, put brown marks in my sons underwear (Always I don't know there too), spook the dog, put flies in coffee, etc.
My wife is always screaming "Who moved my" this and that, so I know they dig into her stuff a lot. I think they also smoke cigarettes, cuz mine go away much too quickly. They take money out of my wallet, and I wish they stacked my dishes when they were done with them.
If I ever see them, I'll ask them to stop.
I've collected 4 "little people" reports from Middle Tennessee, ranging back from the early to late 90s, all within quite a small area from different witnesses who don't know each other (quite a varied age range too, as one witness was 18yrs of age at the time of their sighting, another was in their late 20s, another was in their early 30s, and another was in their early 40s)...
In the 4 forementioned sightings, noone described anything that looked remotely Bigfoot-like...All simply stated it looked like a tiny human...
3 specifically stated it looked like "a little old man" (2 people witnessed the same thing at the same time, the other witness was a completely seperate incident), while another said it looked like "a tiny man"...Surprisingly, all three witnesses said that what they saw appeared "naked", although two said that what they saw looked to have "a long beard" that covered the front of it's body...
In two of the sightings, the witnesses (3 of them in two seperate instances) said the "little old man" was simply standing on the side of the road (technically, one of them said it was "sitting" but either way, relatively the same) watching cars go by...The other witness claimed to have walked up on the "tiny man" drinking out of a creek while hunting, whom quickly turned and ran into the bushes...
:happy:
Now, I'm not saying I believe there are forest gnomes or what have You, running about the remote wilderness of Tennessee (God knows we got enough loons in this state making wilder then hell claims)...But, just like Bigfoot, the witnesses all described, primarily, the same thing...Which makes Ya kinda wonder just what the hell was it they were seeing...
On a personal note, and for the proverbial record, I've never went out in the field gnome hunting...
:laugh:
In the 4 forementioned sightings, noone described anything that looked remotely Bigfoot-like...All simply stated it looked like a tiny human...
3 specifically stated it looked like "a little old man" (2 people witnessed the same thing at the same time, the other witness was a completely seperate incident), while another said it looked like "a tiny man"...Surprisingly, all three witnesses said that what they saw appeared "naked", although two said that what they saw looked to have "a long beard" that covered the front of it's body...
In two of the sightings, the witnesses (3 of them in two seperate instances) said the "little old man" was simply standing on the side of the road (technically, one of them said it was "sitting" but either way, relatively the same) watching cars go by...The other witness claimed to have walked up on the "tiny man" drinking out of a creek while hunting, whom quickly turned and ran into the bushes...
:happy:
Now, I'm not saying I believe there are forest gnomes or what have You, running about the remote wilderness of Tennessee (God knows we got enough loons in this state making wilder then hell claims)...But, just like Bigfoot, the witnesses all described, primarily, the same thing...Which makes Ya kinda wonder just what the hell was it they were seeing...
On a personal note, and for the proverbial record, I've never went out in the field gnome hunting...
:laugh:
I live in the PNW and the little people here just hide car keys.
the lakotas have similiarities, like to not speak of them at night....among others.
one account i just recently heard, was amazing.
a couple of years ago, two guys go out hunting, up north. one guy is na about 6'5 290lbs, the other, not na , 6'6 230lbs. and while hunting, one of the guys, finds an little foot prints. now he did describe this to me, the approx. length was 3-5 inches, perfect human tracks, barefoot, but they were tiny. he was amazed, as they knew, no children would be out this far, alone.
as the sun was starting to set, they bagged a deer, one of the guys wanted to skin and part the carcass there, well the na guy, started to get scared, because he felt like they were being watched. to say the least, they took the deer back home.
there would be a great difference, when one spots an "little person" compared to an bf.....atleast i would think. my cousins' husband, woke her up one time, and was laughing...making a comment as he was looking out the window, saying, "look how small that person is" she immediately closed the window and tried to put him to bed....the next morning, he had no recount of what he saw....he...never believed in any ghost stories, bf, etc, until he moved to the rez.....now....he believes
one account i just recently heard, was amazing.
a couple of years ago, two guys go out hunting, up north. one guy is na about 6'5 290lbs, the other, not na , 6'6 230lbs. and while hunting, one of the guys, finds an little foot prints. now he did describe this to me, the approx. length was 3-5 inches, perfect human tracks, barefoot, but they were tiny. he was amazed, as they knew, no children would be out this far, alone.
as the sun was starting to set, they bagged a deer, one of the guys wanted to skin and part the carcass there, well the na guy, started to get scared, because he felt like they were being watched. to say the least, they took the deer back home.
there would be a great difference, when one spots an "little person" compared to an bf.....atleast i would think. my cousins' husband, woke her up one time, and was laughing...making a comment as he was looking out the window, saying, "look how small that person is" she immediately closed the window and tried to put him to bed....the next morning, he had no recount of what he saw....he...never believed in any ghost stories, bf, etc, until he moved to the rez.....now....he believes
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If I go to the kitchen for some donuts, they are usually none left. I ask my son what happened to them, and his reply is always "I don't know." If I ask him why his dirty socks are laying in the living room, I get the same response. So, I think they like donuts and mark their territory with dirty socks.
LMAO!!!!!
Here is a story for you from my collection:
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Little People - Alabama-Coushatta Tribe
From: Texas Indian Myths and Legends, by Jane Archer, 2000. Maryland: Republic of Texas Press, pp. 207 to 208.
A race of little people exists for whom large is small and small is large.
One day a certain number of these people decided they would go to war. They made bows about six inches long and arrows even smaller. They set out on the warpath.
Soon a large person joined them, a shaman who had fasted four days to be able to see the little people.
They came upon a hive of yellow jackets, a sworn enemy of the little people. They fought hard, but the yellow jackets stung a good number of them to death. The large person jerked a bush out of the ground and beat the yellow jackets until they lay dead.
The little people greatly appreciated this help, so they honored the large person with much affection.
They continued on their way and came to a small creek, but it was so big to the little people that they built rafts to cross.
Soon they killed tsishtsinuk, a small bird, and cut it into pieces to carry separately because it was so heavy. When the large person lifted the bird's head by the bill, they saw amazing strength.
When they came to a small creek, the large person would put them in a big hand and set them on the other side. Yet when they came to a big creek, they could jump over but they had to help the large person across.
They killed a buffalo, and a little person picked up the mighty beast to carry alone.
Finally they came to a place where many cranes lived, along the water. They fought hard, but the cranes killed many little people. The large person clubbed the cranes until they flew away, then they continued on the warpath.
From: Texas Indian Myths and Legends, by Jane Archer, 2000. Maryland: Republic of Texas Press, pp. 207 to 208.
A race of little people exists for whom large is small and small is large.
One day a certain number of these people decided they would go to war. They made bows about six inches long and arrows even smaller. They set out on the warpath.
Soon a large person joined them, a shaman who had fasted four days to be able to see the little people.
They came upon a hive of yellow jackets, a sworn enemy of the little people. They fought hard, but the yellow jackets stung a good number of them to death. The large person jerked a bush out of the ground and beat the yellow jackets until they lay dead.
The little people greatly appreciated this help, so they honored the large person with much affection.
They continued on their way and came to a small creek, but it was so big to the little people that they built rafts to cross.
Soon they killed tsishtsinuk, a small bird, and cut it into pieces to carry separately because it was so heavy. When the large person lifted the bird's head by the bill, they saw amazing strength.
When they came to a small creek, the large person would put them in a big hand and set them on the other side. Yet when they came to a big creek, they could jump over but they had to help the large person across.
They killed a buffalo, and a little person picked up the mighty beast to carry alone.
Finally they came to a place where many cranes lived, along the water. They fought hard, but the cranes killed many little people. The large person clubbed the cranes until they flew away, then they continued on the warpath.
QUOTE(Randy Hutchings)
I've collected 4 "little people" reports from Middle Tennessee
Randy, that reminded me of a chapter in a book I have entitled "Once Upon A Time In Arkansas - Tales of Encounters with the Little People in Arkansas and Neighboring Regions", by John K. Quint.
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A Pygmie Graveyard in Tennessee - Anthropological Institute Journal, 6:100, 1876
An ancient graveyard of vast proportions has been found in Coffee county. It is similar to those found in White county and other places in middle Tennessee, but is vastly more extensive, and shows that the race of pygmies who once inhabited this country were very numerous. The same peculiarities of position observed in the White county graves are found in these. The writer of the letter says: "Some considerable excitement and curiosity took place a few days since, near Hillsboro, Coffee county, on James Brown's farm. A man was plowing in a field which had been cultivated many years, and plowed up a man's skull and other bones. After making further examination they found that there were about six acres in the graveyard. They were buried in a sitting or standing position. The bones show that they were a dwarf tribe of people, about three feet high. It is estimated that there were about 75,000 to 100,000 buried there. This shows that this country was inhabited hundreds of years ago."
An ancient graveyard of vast proportions has been found in Coffee county. It is similar to those found in White county and other places in middle Tennessee, but is vastly more extensive, and shows that the race of pygmies who once inhabited this country were very numerous. The same peculiarities of position observed in the White county graves are found in these. The writer of the letter says: "Some considerable excitement and curiosity took place a few days since, near Hillsboro, Coffee county, on James Brown's farm. A man was plowing in a field which had been cultivated many years, and plowed up a man's skull and other bones. After making further examination they found that there were about six acres in the graveyard. They were buried in a sitting or standing position. The bones show that they were a dwarf tribe of people, about three feet high. It is estimated that there were about 75,000 to 100,000 buried there. This shows that this country was inhabited hundreds of years ago."
By the way, the "Little Sam" story appears in this same book.
Interesting topic. I have always been fascinated by various kinds of stories,not just Bigfoot.
A couple years ago my daughter and a friend were walking between a field and a woodline, they found tiny prints that looked as if a baby had been walking.(Where they live they are accustomed to raccoon, opossum prints etc.) There are a couple pics, I looked to see if I could find my copy, no luck, but I will ask her.(LOL, she is more organized than I!!!) The other odd thing about the prints is that there appeared to be tinier hoof shaped marks alongside them. So, I dont know. (shrug) just fit with the thread.
A couple years ago my daughter and a friend were walking between a field and a woodline, they found tiny prints that looked as if a baby had been walking.(Where they live they are accustomed to raccoon, opossum prints etc.) There are a couple pics, I looked to see if I could find my copy, no luck, but I will ask her.(LOL, she is more organized than I!!!) The other odd thing about the prints is that there appeared to be tinier hoof shaped marks alongside them. So, I dont know. (shrug) just fit with the thread.
QUOTE(Hairy Man @ Aug 28 2006, 10:55 AM)
QUOTE(scotto @ Aug 27 2006, 08:28 PM)
If I go to the kitchen for some donuts, they are usually none left. I ask my son what happened to them, and his reply is always "I don't know." If I ask him why his dirty socks are laying in the living room, I get the same response. So, I think they like donuts and mark their territory with dirty socks.
LMAO!!!!!
Here is a story for you from my collection:
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Little People - Alabama-Coushatta Tribe
From: Texas Indian Myths and Legends, by Jane Archer, 2000. Maryland: Republic of Texas Press, pp. 207 to 208.
A race of little people exists for whom large is small and small is large.
One day a certain number of these people decided they would go to war. They made bows about six inches long and arrows even smaller. They set out on the warpath.
Soon a large person joined them, a shaman who had fasted four days to be able to see the little people.
They came upon a hive of yellow jackets, a sworn enemy of the little people. They fought hard, but the yellow jackets stung a good number of them to death. The large person jerked a bush out of the ground and beat the yellow jackets until they lay dead.
The little people greatly appreciated this help, so they honored the large person with much affection.
They continued on their way and came to a small creek, but it was so big to the little people that they built rafts to cross.
Soon they killed tsishtsinuk, a small bird, and cut it into pieces to carry separately because it was so heavy. When the large person lifted the bird's head by the bill, they saw amazing strength.
When they came to a small creek, the large person would put them in a big hand and set them on the other side. Yet when they came to a big creek, they could jump over but they had to help the large person across.
They killed a buffalo, and a little person picked up the mighty beast to carry alone.
Finally they came to a place where many cranes lived, along the water. They fought hard, but the cranes killed many little people. The large person clubbed the cranes until they flew away, then they continued on the warpath.
From: Texas Indian Myths and Legends, by Jane Archer, 2000. Maryland: Republic of Texas Press, pp. 207 to 208.
A race of little people exists for whom large is small and small is large.
One day a certain number of these people decided they would go to war. They made bows about six inches long and arrows even smaller. They set out on the warpath.
Soon a large person joined them, a shaman who had fasted four days to be able to see the little people.
They came upon a hive of yellow jackets, a sworn enemy of the little people. They fought hard, but the yellow jackets stung a good number of them to death. The large person jerked a bush out of the ground and beat the yellow jackets until they lay dead.
The little people greatly appreciated this help, so they honored the large person with much affection.
They continued on their way and came to a small creek, but it was so big to the little people that they built rafts to cross.
Soon they killed tsishtsinuk, a small bird, and cut it into pieces to carry separately because it was so heavy. When the large person lifted the bird's head by the bill, they saw amazing strength.
When they came to a small creek, the large person would put them in a big hand and set them on the other side. Yet when they came to a big creek, they could jump over but they had to help the large person across.
They killed a buffalo, and a little person picked up the mighty beast to carry alone.
Finally they came to a place where many cranes lived, along the water. They fought hard, but the cranes killed many little people. The large person clubbed the cranes until they flew away, then they continued on the warpath.
Hey, I think I've seen that movie...
:popcorn2:
QUOTE(*+ @ Aug 28 2006, 12:13 PM)
QUOTE(Hairy Man @ Aug 28 2006, 10:55 AM)
QUOTE(scotto @ Aug 27 2006, 08:28 PM)
If I go to the kitchen for some donuts, they are usually none left. I ask my son what happened to them, and his reply is always "I don't know." If I ask him why his dirty socks are laying in the living room, I get the same response. So, I think they like donuts and mark their territory with dirty socks.
LMAO!!!!!
Here is a story for you from my collection:
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Little People - Alabama-Coushatta Tribe
From: Texas Indian Myths and Legends, by Jane Archer, 2000. Maryland: Republic of Texas Press, pp. 207 to 208.
A race of little people exists for whom large is small and small is large.
One day a certain number of these people decided they would go to war. They made bows about six inches long and arrows even smaller. They set out on the warpath.
Soon a large person joined them, a shaman who had fasted four days to be able to see the little people.
They came upon a hive of yellow jackets, a sworn enemy of the little people. They fought hard, but the yellow jackets stung a good number of them to death. The large person jerked a bush out of the ground and beat the yellow jackets until they lay dead.
The little people greatly appreciated this help, so they honored the large person with much affection.
They continued on their way and came to a small creek, but it was so big to the little people that they built rafts to cross.
Soon they killed tsishtsinuk, a small bird, and cut it into pieces to carry separately because it was so heavy. When the large person lifted the bird's head by the bill, they saw amazing strength.
When they came to a small creek, the large person would put them in a big hand and set them on the other side. Yet when they came to a big creek, they could jump over but they had to help the large person across.
They killed a buffalo, and a little person picked up the mighty beast to carry alone.
Finally they came to a place where many cranes lived, along the water. They fought hard, but the cranes killed many little people. The large person clubbed the cranes until they flew away, then they continued on the warpath.
From: Texas Indian Myths and Legends, by Jane Archer, 2000. Maryland: Republic of Texas Press, pp. 207 to 208.
A race of little people exists for whom large is small and small is large.
One day a certain number of these people decided they would go to war. They made bows about six inches long and arrows even smaller. They set out on the warpath.
Soon a large person joined them, a shaman who had fasted four days to be able to see the little people.
They came upon a hive of yellow jackets, a sworn enemy of the little people. They fought hard, but the yellow jackets stung a good number of them to death. The large person jerked a bush out of the ground and beat the yellow jackets until they lay dead.
The little people greatly appreciated this help, so they honored the large person with much affection.
They continued on their way and came to a small creek, but it was so big to the little people that they built rafts to cross.
Soon they killed tsishtsinuk, a small bird, and cut it into pieces to carry separately because it was so heavy. When the large person lifted the bird's head by the bill, they saw amazing strength.
When they came to a small creek, the large person would put them in a big hand and set them on the other side. Yet when they came to a big creek, they could jump over but they had to help the large person across.
They killed a buffalo, and a little person picked up the mighty beast to carry alone.
Finally they came to a place where many cranes lived, along the water. They fought hard, but the cranes killed many little people. The large person clubbed the cranes until they flew away, then they continued on the warpath.
Hey, I think I've seen that movie...
:popcorn2:
Whistler, is that Lenny and Squiggy from Laverne and Shirley? They sure do look like them guys. :popcorn2:
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Aug 28 2006, 11:42 AM)
QUOTE(Randy Hutchings)
I've collected 4 "little people" reports from Middle Tennessee
Randy, that reminded me of a chapter in a book I have entitled "Once Upon A Time In Arkansas - Tales of Encounters with the Little People in Arkansas and Neighboring Regions", by John K. Quint.
QUOTE
A Pygmie Graveyard in Tennessee - Anthropological Institute Journal, 6:100, 1876
An ancient graveyard of vast proportions has been found in Coffee county. It is similar to those found in White county and other places in middle Tennessee, but is vastly more extensive, and shows that the race of pygmies who once inhabited this country were very numerous. The same peculiarities of position observed in the White county graves are found in these. The writer of the letter says: "Some considerable excitement and curiosity took place a few days since, near Hillsboro, Coffee county, on James Brown's farm. A man was plowing in a field which had been cultivated many years, and plowed up a man's skull and other bones. After making further examination they found that there were about six acres in the graveyard. They were buried in a sitting or standing position. The bones show that they were a dwarf tribe of people, about three feet high. It is estimated that there were about 75,000 to 100,000 buried there. This shows that this country was inhabited hundreds of years ago."
An ancient graveyard of vast proportions has been found in Coffee county. It is similar to those found in White county and other places in middle Tennessee, but is vastly more extensive, and shows that the race of pygmies who once inhabited this country were very numerous. The same peculiarities of position observed in the White county graves are found in these. The writer of the letter says: "Some considerable excitement and curiosity took place a few days since, near Hillsboro, Coffee county, on James Brown's farm. A man was plowing in a field which had been cultivated many years, and plowed up a man's skull and other bones. After making further examination they found that there were about six acres in the graveyard. They were buried in a sitting or standing position. The bones show that they were a dwarf tribe of people, about three feet high. It is estimated that there were about 75,000 to 100,000 buried there. This shows that this country was inhabited hundreds of years ago."
By the way, the "Little Sam" story appears in this same book.
Coffee county eh?...Interesting...I live about 15 miles from the Hillsboro area...
Think I'll snoop about and see if there isn't some shred of info on this, just to see if it's true or not...
Very interesting story though...Thanks Jaylee...
I have another one told to me by a friend, it was supposed to have happened in Wisconsin. This was in the day of horse and wagon, her grandfather was a young boy and had been sitting on the back of a buckboard as the family was on their way home. Out of the ditch came a little man, he hopped up beside the boy, they looked at each other for a couple minutes when the little man jumped back down and went into the ditch on the opposite side. I have some more collected but thats one of my favorites.
Randy, please let me know if you find out anything. One thing that caught my attention...from your post:
Then from the story I posted:
:new_weirdsmiley:
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In two of the sightings, the witnesses (3 of them in two seperate instances) said the "little old man" was simply standing on the side of the road (technically, one of them said it was "sitting" but either way, relatively the same) watching cars go by...
Then from the story I posted:
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After making further examination they found that there were about six acres in the graveyard. They were buried in a sitting or standing position.
:new_weirdsmiley:
Even Geronimo's story mentions little people:
From: First People US - Native American Legends
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There were some little brown people at the Fair that United States troops captured recently on some islands far away from here.
They did not wear much clothing, and I think that they should not have been allowed to come to the Fair. But they themselves did not seem to know any better. They had some little brass plates, and they tried to play music with these, but I did not think it was music it was only a rattle. However, they danced to this noise and seemed to think they were giving a fine show.
I do not know how true the report was, but I heard that the President sent them to the Fair so that they could learn some manners, and when they went home teach their people how to dress and how to behave.
They did not wear much clothing, and I think that they should not have been allowed to come to the Fair. But they themselves did not seem to know any better. They had some little brass plates, and they tried to play music with these, but I did not think it was music it was only a rattle. However, they danced to this noise and seemed to think they were giving a fine show.
I do not know how true the report was, but I heard that the President sent them to the Fair so that they could learn some manners, and when they went home teach their people how to dress and how to behave.
From: First People US - Native American Legends
John Mionczynski from the Giganto Documentry has some amazing stories of little people, At first i thought he was yanking me but he was serious and says there is a place he can take you to where you can listed to the little people underground at night, also claims they can drive you crazy, make you loose your mind.
I remember a long time ago, I read Ivan Sanderson's book, forgot the title, but he talked about the little hominids including the Duende of South America. Huevelmans reported all sorts of little people stories mostly from south asia. It always struck that it was really odd that the stories of the Duende seemed so similar to Orang Pendek. It is all so unlikely yet the stories must be explained either by coicidence, some strange human tendency to make up little hairy people stories, or possible based on a real creature (or something I haven't thought of). If an unknown giant hairy hairy hominid seems unlikely, it seems much more unlikely to have an unknown little one too?
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Finally they came to a place where many cranes lived, along the water. They fought hard, but the cranes killed many little people. The large person clubbed the cranes until they flew away, then they continued on the warpath.
Hmmmm...
Coincidence?
Wasn't there a skeleton of a little person found somewhere and it definitely wasn't human? I was sure that I heard about something along the lines of this...
I'll look it up
I'll look it up
i want to take the time to thank everyone for their respectable .02
from reading all the posts, i can point out some similiarities and i am quite excited to know.
sunflower pointed out an excellant theory, about the lil bfs in the trees. i haven't heard the alabama coushatta one, even though i stayed there for a while, if any one has a chance, go visit them, they are the most friendly people, i've even had the honor to meet, great great people.
has anyone on this forum, ever see one? alot of people i spoke to, have either seen "red eyes" at night, or heard, what sounded like a bunch of kids playing, having fun..
ps i'm living on the in-laws property and there's a spring approx. 75 meters south of my place, and a there's a long history of sightings & hearding a bunch of lil kids playing....
from reading all the posts, i can point out some similiarities and i am quite excited to know.
sunflower pointed out an excellant theory, about the lil bfs in the trees. i haven't heard the alabama coushatta one, even though i stayed there for a while, if any one has a chance, go visit them, they are the most friendly people, i've even had the honor to meet, great great people.
has anyone on this forum, ever see one? alot of people i spoke to, have either seen "red eyes" at night, or heard, what sounded like a bunch of kids playing, having fun..
ps i'm living on the in-laws property and there's a spring approx. 75 meters south of my place, and a there's a long history of sightings & hearding a bunch of lil kids playing....
All I know is if you find something in the woods you should let the little people know you'd like to take it home with you, and that you're expected to leave something in trade.
OK I'll remember to leave a gift when I go to the woods.
Sunflower
Sunflower
Are these little people mentioned here just like tiny little humans, or are they covered in hair? And what heights are we talking here? Are they about a foot tall, or maybe 30" tall? That's a big difference in stature! I can't get a picture in my head...
I was thinking in the 3 to 4 foot range but sometimes very powerful for their size.
I'm curious Jim, because if you try to look up little people you end up wading through lots of different versions, including not only smaller humans, such as midgets & dwarfs, but on to mythical "little people", fairies, trolls, etc.! All that doesn't even include the Native American Indian "little people".
Through these posts in this thread, there haven't been a whole lot of specifics. I was curious, and still am! There's a difference between a naked little non-hairy being with a beard, and a naked hairy little being with a beard.
Through these posts in this thread, there haven't been a whole lot of specifics. I was curious, and still am! There's a difference between a naked little non-hairy being with a beard, and a naked hairy little being with a beard.
The "little people" sighting reports I have are within the range of 18 inches to roughly 2 feet in height...
Yeah, I realize how crazy that sounds, but that's around the height they claimed they were...
Yeah, I realize how crazy that sounds, but that's around the height they claimed they were...
This is from the same book that I quoted above.
"The Little Man of the Rock" is located along the Ozark Trail near Alread, AR. He's a pectoglyph, carved into the stone rather than painted on. He stands 2 feet tall, seems to be holding a knife and has what looks like a headdress of feathers.
History of the Little Man says that he should be taken as a warning that the little people are around, and you should leave an offering for this guardian of the rock.
"The Little Man of the Rock" is located along the Ozark Trail near Alread, AR. He's a pectoglyph, carved into the stone rather than painted on. He stands 2 feet tall, seems to be holding a knife and has what looks like a headdress of feathers.
History of the Little Man says that he should be taken as a warning that the little people are around, and you should leave an offering for this guardian of the rock.
Very cool Jaylee, thanks for posting it.
I admit a curiousity about these stories. I am not sure what to think...interesting stuff.
Redwolf
I admit a curiousity about these stories. I am not sure what to think...interesting stuff.
Redwolf
In my files i have 2 little people reports.....one has a L.P. waking up an American Indian when it sat on his chest in a Montana forest.....the man threw it off and then gave chase as it ran off.....story told to me by his son, a medicine man of the Coeur d Alenes (Idaho), who was there......
Here is a link to little people in the Celtic tradition:
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/6686/little
While much of the ancient celtic knowledge has been lost or assimilated into the new age movement, there are some cultural commonalities between Western European and North American peoples.
http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/6686/little
While much of the ancient celtic knowledge has been lost or assimilated into the new age movement, there are some cultural commonalities between Western European and North American peoples.
Well, without being flamed or pounced on here folks, I personally believe I have seen a little person while doing a video documentary on Cherokee/Creek Indian Spirit Houses.
Spirit houses are houses built over the graves of loved ones for their spirit to remain until they advance to the next level. They also serve as shelter for Little People who supposedly protect the person's body in the grave against Bad witches known as Raven Mockers.
While scouting out some spirit houses after dark (we made it onsite to late) we approached one that was over 14 feet long. As we got near it, something small looked out the end at us with red-tinted eyes (glare from our flashlights), and the eyes were both to the front like a human or primate would be, not to the sides like a dog, coon or possum. We paused a second and then it slowly backed into the interior of the spirit house and within a short time, we heard something scampering away from the back side of the spirit house off into the heavy weeds.
It is customary to leave food, clothing and other gifts inside the spirit houses for the little people. And if you do damage to a spirit house, bad things are suposed to happen to you in the form of bad luck and the little people getting their revenge on you.
In this same area, we have had on several occasions, something walking up through the underbrush to our vehicle and despite using flashlights and spotlights, were unable to find the animal or whatever making the walking noise. On one occassion, something even knocked on the bottom of the vehicle with what sounded like a rock.
For those who will probably flame me, this area is in the heart of an area which the local Cherokee believe magical and mysterious things occur. My wife's family are full-blooded Cherokee and they respect the legends of the little people, they even have stories of encounters with the little people that happened to them.
Some examples of Spirit Houses:
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Spirit houses are houses built over the graves of loved ones for their spirit to remain until they advance to the next level. They also serve as shelter for Little People who supposedly protect the person's body in the grave against Bad witches known as Raven Mockers.
While scouting out some spirit houses after dark (we made it onsite to late) we approached one that was over 14 feet long. As we got near it, something small looked out the end at us with red-tinted eyes (glare from our flashlights), and the eyes were both to the front like a human or primate would be, not to the sides like a dog, coon or possum. We paused a second and then it slowly backed into the interior of the spirit house and within a short time, we heard something scampering away from the back side of the spirit house off into the heavy weeds.
It is customary to leave food, clothing and other gifts inside the spirit houses for the little people. And if you do damage to a spirit house, bad things are suposed to happen to you in the form of bad luck and the little people getting their revenge on you.
In this same area, we have had on several occasions, something walking up through the underbrush to our vehicle and despite using flashlights and spotlights, were unable to find the animal or whatever making the walking noise. On one occassion, something even knocked on the bottom of the vehicle with what sounded like a rock.
For those who will probably flame me, this area is in the heart of an area which the local Cherokee believe magical and mysterious things occur. My wife's family are full-blooded Cherokee and they respect the legends of the little people, they even have stories of encounters with the little people that happened to them.
Some examples of Spirit Houses:
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QUOTE(littlefoot @ Aug 30 2006, 12:00 AM)
I'm curious Jim, because if you try to look up little people you end up wading through lots of different versions, including not only smaller humans, such as midgets & dwarfs, but on to mythical "little people", fairies, trolls, etc.!
That's what I was wondering, how "little" these little people are supposed to be.
My sister-in-law said she saw some little people when she was young, and swears they were real, and not a figment of her imagination. And I mean real little.
Nice pic BTW Jaylee. How far from me do you think that place is?
To the Cherokee around here, the average height seems to be about 1 to 2 feet high Scotto.
I have heard some stories about little people in southern Colorado and northern New Mexico, but they were handed down tenth hand versions. Its been a long time since I've heard one, but I remember all originated around the turn of the century and were not BF related. What I recall is that it was beleived they lived in small caves, the supposed original witness's said they wore skin clothing had hats and carried bows and arrows. All supposed sighting happened when people were hunting.
I dont have an opinion on the stories one way or another, just relating that I have heard stories about them.
I dont have an opinion on the stories one way or another, just relating that I have heard stories about them.
had a friend, back in the military, he was from new mexico....told me about their little people. he told me that you could never see em....just at the corner of your eye, you'll catch a glance at one.....when you turn to look, they're so fast, they move before you can get a good look....there was a name for them in his language.....forgot it.....
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Nice pic BTW Jaylee. How far from me do you think that place is?
Alread is NW of Clinton in Van Buren County. Apparently the people at the store (must just be one store) can give directions to the carving.
QUOTE(ljromero76 @ Aug 27 2006, 12:44 PM)
there are stories from native americans, regarding "the little people". any feed back? anyone?
i've been to three other reservations, a couple in the south and on the pine ridge reservation. all stories are basically similiar, with accounts of "them" living in the trees. one tribe claimed they lived in the pine trees and there was clumps of cones and boughts, in certain parts of the trees. one account stated that at night, their eyes glowed red and that "they" can get you lost in the woods, if you wasn't in the right frame of mind (i.e. depressed, drunk, etc.)
i heard of accounts of older people, that feed them. they leave the food (on plates) and in the morning, the food was gone and the plates were neatly stacked. (the location of this story, was out in the country)
i have more....but i just got off the midnight shift...may others can add to this topic, laters
i've been to three other reservations, a couple in the south and on the pine ridge reservation. all stories are basically similiar, with accounts of "them" living in the trees. one tribe claimed they lived in the pine trees and there was clumps of cones and boughts, in certain parts of the trees. one account stated that at night, their eyes glowed red and that "they" can get you lost in the woods, if you wasn't in the right frame of mind (i.e. depressed, drunk, etc.)
i heard of accounts of older people, that feed them. they leave the food (on plates) and in the morning, the food was gone and the plates were neatly stacked. (the location of this story, was out in the country)
i have more....but i just got off the midnight shift...may others can add to this topic, laters
There are many Irish stories like this too, fairies and leprechauns and the like. They do similar things and the parents will frighten the children that "the fairies will get you" and such.
Similar?
Cheers
Alex
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Aug 30 2006, 10:30 AM)
This is from the same book that I quoted above.
"The Little Man of the Rock" is located along the Ozark Trail near Alread, AR. He's a pectoglyph, carved into the stone rather than painted on. He stands 2 feet tall, seems to be holding a knife and has what looks like a headdress of feathers.
History of the Little Man says that he should be taken as a warning that the little people are around, and you should leave an offering for this guardian of the rock.
"The Little Man of the Rock" is located along the Ozark Trail near Alread, AR. He's a pectoglyph, carved into the stone rather than painted on. He stands 2 feet tall, seems to be holding a knife and has what looks like a headdress of feathers.
History of the Little Man says that he should be taken as a warning that the little people are around, and you should leave an offering for this guardian of the rock.
Blair Witch Project anyone?
Bad movie but all those little hands...
Alex
I have to agree that there are a lot of similiarities between the old Celtic traditions and Native American traditions. (I practice Celtic Wicca and come across that kind of thing often. NO, I am not saying they are exactly alike.)
Stories...here is another from Texas. A friend of mine was having an overnight sleepover, they had their sleeping bags spread out in the back of her dads pickup truck, were sitting up talking, when they saw a little white figure over by some undergrowth, it would look out at them then duck behind the bushes, they were watching the area for it to appear again when it or possibly another one showed up off to the side of them...if it was the same one it had to have moved incredibly fast. At this point the girls freaked out and decided to go back into the house. When asked, she estimated their height at about two feet tall.
Stories...here is another from Texas. A friend of mine was having an overnight sleepover, they had their sleeping bags spread out in the back of her dads pickup truck, were sitting up talking, when they saw a little white figure over by some undergrowth, it would look out at them then duck behind the bushes, they were watching the area for it to appear again when it or possibly another one showed up off to the side of them...if it was the same one it had to have moved incredibly fast. At this point the girls freaked out and decided to go back into the house. When asked, she estimated their height at about two feet tall.
This thread just gets more and more interesting...
Thanks for sharing Your stories guys...
Thanks for sharing Your stories guys...
Hello, new member here (long-time lurker) from the Ozark Mountains....
For Little People, we may actually have a skeleton:
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/WY-LittlePeople.html
Many LPs in "Myths of the Cherokees" by James Mooney (1900):
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/cher/index.htm
In Iceland, where cultural belief in LPs is the norm, entire construction projects are modified or scrapped if it is perceived they are cutting into LP territory. A search for "Little People" + Iceland will produce lots of results.
As my grandfather said on his deathbed - "there's more to life than meets the eye", and I believe he was right!
Regards, Gail
For Little People, we may actually have a skeleton:
http://www.legendsofamerica.com/WY-LittlePeople.html
Many LPs in "Myths of the Cherokees" by James Mooney (1900):
http://www.sacred-texts.com/nam/cher/index.htm
In Iceland, where cultural belief in LPs is the norm, entire construction projects are modified or scrapped if it is perceived they are cutting into LP territory. A search for "Little People" + Iceland will produce lots of results.
As my grandfather said on his deathbed - "there's more to life than meets the eye", and I believe he was right!
Regards, Gail
skeletons? very interesting. i know of two seperate accounts of small human-like skeletal remains located around my area. both accounts do tell of finding an box (the box was buried) and finding remains, which looked like the "person" was trying to get out. on the skull, horns were located just above the eye sockets.
one area i know of.....call it b.s. hearing these stories, has even me, rubbing my eyes, but after all what goes on here (on the rez) i would'nt doubt it......legions....are the name for them, and there's supposely to be one left, running around...
these were told to me, when i was an teenager, surprised i still remember it.
one area i know of.....call it b.s. hearing these stories, has even me, rubbing my eyes, but after all what goes on here (on the rez) i would'nt doubt it......legions....are the name for them, and there's supposely to be one left, running around...
these were told to me, when i was an teenager, surprised i still remember it.
I think I've read every post in this thread. Perhaps I've missed it.
To summarize what I've read, the little people are about 18" to 24" on average, with the overall range of 6" to 48".
My question is, are they covered with bare, or nearly bare skin like us, or are they hairy all over, like we think a bigfoot is?
To summarize what I've read, the little people are about 18" to 24" on average, with the overall range of 6" to 48".
My question is, are they covered with bare, or nearly bare skin like us, or are they hairy all over, like we think a bigfoot is?
QUOTE(littlefoot @ Aug 31 2006, 10:35 PM)
I think I've read every post in this thread. Perhaps I've missed it.
To summarize what I've read, the little people are about 18" to 24" on average, with the overall range of 6" to 48".
My question is, are they covered with bare, or nearly bare skin like us, or are they hairy all over, like we think a bigfoot is?
To summarize what I've read, the little people are about 18" to 24" on average, with the overall range of 6" to 48".
My question is, are they covered with bare, or nearly bare skin like us, or are they hairy all over, like we think a bigfoot is?
The Cherokee version is a little person with dark skin, hair on the head and not like a miniature bigfoot. They are not covered from head to toe in hair. I also haven't heard any stories describing little people with beards.
just to clarify.......(and i'm only speaking for the lakota-side)
bf and the little people are entirely different "people"?
my mother is originally from the river area of sd and she told me many stories on how the little people came from underwater, maybe the trees that were underneath, due to the flooding. but there are similiarities of the celts and na, as well as other nations...
as far as photos? good luck, it would seem to me that they are more of a supernatural being. like i stated earlier, there is an spring just to the north.....you'll be the first to know, when i hear or see anything....
all the accounts i've heard concerning this, is they heard what sounds like little children playing and laughing, i hate to hear/know when they are mad....
bf and the little people are entirely different "people"?
my mother is originally from the river area of sd and she told me many stories on how the little people came from underwater, maybe the trees that were underneath, due to the flooding. but there are similiarities of the celts and na, as well as other nations...
as far as photos? good luck, it would seem to me that they are more of a supernatural being. like i stated earlier, there is an spring just to the north.....you'll be the first to know, when i hear or see anything....
all the accounts i've heard concerning this, is they heard what sounds like little children playing and laughing, i hate to hear/know when they are mad....
To the Choctaw (my tribe), little people could also be hair covered (the story "Little-Man-with-Hairy-All-Over" is an example of that kind of story). There are definately more non-hair covered stories than hair-covered, but there are a few...and like I said, mostly from the east and south.
hi hairy,
would you care to share any of those stories?
thank you :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:
would you care to share any of those stories?
thank you :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:
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