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This is a sidebar note that appeared in the recent Scientific American Special Edition Volume 16 number 2 2006 page 11.

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A few individuals, including some serious researchers, have argued that the Sivapithecus lineage of great apes from which the orangutan arose has another living descendant. Details of the beast's anatomy vary from account to account, but it is consistently described as a large, hirsute, nonhuman primate that walks upright and has reportedly been spotted in locales across North America and Asia. Unfortunately, this creature has more names than evidence to support its existence (bigfoot, yeti, sasquatch, nyalmo, rimi, raksibombo, the abominable snowman - the list goes on).

Those who believe in bigfoot (on the basis of suspicious hairs, feces, footprints and fuzzy videotape) usually point to the fossil great ape Gigantopithecus as its direct ancestor. Gigantopithecus was probably two to three times as large as a gorilla and is known to have lived until about 300,000 years ago in China and Southeast Asia.

There is no reason that such a beast could not persist today. After all, we know from the subfossil record that gorilla-size lemurs lived on the island of Madagascar until they were driven to extinction by humans only 1,000 years ago. The problem is that whereas we have fossils of 20-million-year-old apes the size of very small cats, we do not have even a single bone of this putative half-ton, bipedal great ape living in, among other places, the continental U.S. Although every primatologist and primate paleontologist I know would love for bigfoot to be real, the complete absence of hard evidence for its existence makes that highly unlikely.
-D.R.B.
tugboatwa
I saw that issue on the stands before I came back to the boat this month... I knew I should have bought a copy. :icon_bang:
mspstomper
How freaky is a Gorilla sized Lemur looking???!!!
tube
QUOTE(tugboatwa @ Aug 10 2006, 09:02 PM) *
I saw that issue on the stands before I came back to the boat this month... I knew I should have bought a copy. :icon_bang:


It may very well still be on the new stands. A blurb on the cover reads "Display until September 19, 2006" So far, the issue is quite good, and not too technical for an amateur such as myself. Heck, it even mentions our friend Dryopithecus!
tube
Wolftrax has advised me that David R. Begun's article is already online!

http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/anthropology/.../begunSciAm.pdf
HarryHenderson
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.....There is no reason that such a beast could not persist today.....Although every primatologist and primate paleontologist I know would love for bigfoot to be real, the complete absence of hard evidence for its existence makes that highly unlikely.
-D.R.B.
There's not only no 'absolute denial' of Bigfoot™ , he admits there's no reason it couldn't exist. An intellectually defendable position for a scientist in my opinion. Does sound like Bigfoot's Existence™ has a secret cheerleading squad though, of which I was previously unaware. :wink:

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DAVID R. BEGUN is professor of anthropology at the University of Toronto. He received his Ph.D.in physical anthropology from the University of Pennsylvania in 1987. Focusing on Miocene hominoid evolution, Begun has excavated and surveyed fossil localities in Spain, Hungary, Turkey and Kenya. He is currently working with colleagues in Turkey and Hungary on several fossil ape sites and is trying to reconstruct the landscapes and mammalian dispersal patterns that characterized the Old World between 20 million and two million years ago.

"Harry"
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