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escAPEe
A video clip showing an alleged glimpse of a BF-like animal has been posted on the Internet, this time from Australia. The videographer is the moderator of Wicked Lasers, a technical laser light forum board, and posted the thread within the Experienced discussion section of his forum on Monday night, June 26 just 2 days after the video clip was obtained while he was on weekend holiday at a mountain rental cabin near the national park at Katoomba in New South Wales, Australia.

The videographer was originally offering copies of the clip to any interested forum members reading the discussion thread who requested it. Two of the people who received the clip then posted versions of it on the Internet which are still publicly available at this time.


PUBLICLY AVAILABLE VERSIONS OF THE VIDEO: The clip posted by B. Green at Google video appears to be the original 1 minute video as sent out by the videographer along with the full audio of the witness's reactions after sighting a glimpse of the moving animal. Go to Original version of Yowie video.

An enhanced version of only that portion of the video which shows glimpses of the animal's movements was posted by Black Sheep at YouTube. This version unnaturally brightens up the background and washes out the colors, but does provide more visible details to be seen than what was apparent to the witnesses at the time by the naked eye. Go to brightened but shorter film clip.


SUMMARIZED BACKGROUND STORY GLEANED FROM THE FORUM POSTS: A laser light enthusiast was toying with a new Elite Laser device near the National Park in the mountains at Katoomba in New South Wales on Saturday evening, June 24, 2006. He was with a couple friends as they were filming how the green laser looked against the winter sky (this is the southern hemisphere) and outdoor night backgrounds when the videographer noticed someone standing near them. He pointed the laser/camera at whoever it was and ended up capturing film of what they believe to be a Yowie as it first hides behind an ironbark tree then runs away from them in the dark.

They get their best video of it standing behind the tree when one of them shines a flashlight at the tree. The best glimpses in the film seem to be taken within 15 feet of the subject. This is not a distant shot of a blobsquatch but upclose images which show its flowing hair as it moves. However, its facial features are obscured by the high-contrast lighting conditions, the quick movement of the creature and possibly because the animal appears to be shielding its face with its left arm (best seen in the brightened but shorter film clip posted on YouTube).

The videographer provides a precise time, date and address for where the video clip was made. He was on holiday with other witnesses to the encounter (his wife and wife's friends) and states that although he has often vacationed in this area during his life-- this was the first time he had ever seen a creature like this.

The laser enthusiast who posted the video operates Nero Designs, Inc., a laser art company in Australia. In one of his posts he identifies himself as having been the designer and matte painter for the Farscape series and his claim to fame is that he was once interviewed by a film crew for the SciFi channel when they did a piece about Farscape several years ago. Among his replies to forum members discussing the experience during the first several hours after he launched the thread he expresses his concern that because of his connections with the special effects industry and his wife being a costume designer, some people may instantly dismiss the video as a hoax.


DOCUMENTATION FOR THE BACKGROUND STORY: Following is a transcript of the comments made by the videographer himself (unless otherwise noted) about the circumstances behind the video which I've copied from the discussion thread at Wicked Lasers:

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ORIGINAL POST on 26-Jun-2006: We don't know what it was but it was just on 6 feet tall and was watching us test an Elite Laser last weekend in the mountains at Katoomba. This is a location believed to be occupied by the elusive (mythical?) Australian Yeti which is known locally as a Yowie.

I can send the video on to anyone if they want to take a look. I't about 4.9MB.

We turned off the laser and chased it. No idea what it was but it was watching us curiously from about 15 feet away. It ran off when we turned the camera and torches on it. Could have been a prankster I suppose but it was a quiet road overlooking a massive canyon/gorge and the temperature was close to below zero at the time.


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27-Jun-2006 - Let me know what you think it is. It's not very brightly lit but you'll see how we stopped lasering to see what it was. I'd mounted an INOVA 5 whilte LED to the camera and mounted a <110mW Elite (not usually available) to the top of the camera.


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27-Jun-2006 - It's a pity the video appears a bit darker... but the thing against the tree was there for a good 15 minutes before we saw it there. It remains perfectly motionless until I walked closer and then it just took off. There was no way we were about to run into the thick bushland (hundreds of kilometers thick I might add).

No way we were going after it since it was taller than me. If it was a guy playing a prank, they were in a remote location after dark in nearly subzero temperatures. We all had chillblanes on our fingers when we got back to the house. (where your skin stings as it heats up).


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27-Jun-2006 - Remember that it was almost zero degrees out there... We were freezing at the time. If the video was a little longer at the beginning, you would have hear endless complaints from the other guy with me. The girl is a nurse and didn't complain since they had both come outside with me to see the laser and the stars (they were extremely clear there in the mountains). Anyone devoted enough to stand next to a tree on the edge of a huge National Park in soon to be subzero is pretty tough stuff. There's a 400ft drop not far back into the bush.


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27-Jun-2006 - Was with two friends of Rena's (my wife). She was back at the house we had rented for the weekend with her girlfriends figuring out what to get for dinner. I had told Steve I'd photograph a laser out overlooking the ranges if I could which is why were were out there. But the light had gone from the sky early (it's winter here) so we were just testing out the different lasers.


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27-Jun-2006 - I've sent the Vid to those on the list that asked... sorry about the delayn - I'm based in Australia as you know.

I just emailed Black Sheep on the subject and I'll include the following Cut Paste because it relates to the issue at hand:

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In Katoomba, there have been numerous Yowie sightings (it's an aboriginal name). According to the natives here, the Yowies leave their haunts after dark in search of meat.


Hard to say exactly what it was although it spooked us when it moved and then ran off. I recall being a boy scout years ago and the Park Ranger coming by to ask us if we'd seen anything since he was acting on reports by other campers at the time. Was probably in late 1977 at the time.


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27-Jun-2006 - The SciFi channel send a film crew out to film me for the Farscape series a few years ago. I used to be the designer and Matte Painter for Farscape.


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27-Jun-2006
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LaserLight wrote:
I just brightened up the clip so that I could see what is going on. I also put part of it in slow motion.


That's great! Can see details not visible in the actual footage from the shadowed areas. What did you use for the enhancement? I tried that in iMovie but no dice. Whilst not as normal looking as the original in terms of colour schemes, it's great to see what was lost in the shadows.


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27-Jun-2006
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LaserLight wrote:
.... This did not look like any commercially available suit to me. Is not your wife a custom maker? I do believe this could be authentic. It's the best footage I have ever seen and I have seen most of the footage that's out there.


Rena (my wife) is indeed a seamstress and a costume designer but she specialises in Rennaisance and period clothing... like chainmail, 70s and even leather garments + anime costumes for the local Animania conventions. The kind of material needed to create a hairy costume would be in the many thousands of dollars... even if relatively cheap pieces were used. I can assure you that she had nothing to do with the critter since she's pressured for time these days and was also indoors at the time back at the property we were renting for the weekend. I don't think she quite believed us until I gave the camera enough time to defrost (climatise) - which took about 30 minutes - and then showed her the video. She couldn't see much on the LCD screen and just said it looked "cool". Remember that it was like 5 degrees outside and felt like it was absolutely freezing. We were hoping for a rare bout of snow and were also killing time waiting for our dinner to be delivered by two of the girls who had gone to pick it up. I took some daylight shots from the same location - can upload those when I get home tonight. Might give you an idea of where I was in relation to the National Park.

I was going to post the vid under my birth name (I changed it by Deed Poll many years ago) to read B. Green instead of Nero_Design?

If my current name is on it, the video may be debunked based on the simple fact that I work in visual digital effects although a sensible person can probably tell that the critter was not digitally added to the footage. You may also want to mention that the locan creature is called a Yowie here in Australia... and that the location was Katoomba in NSW, Australia. Time was 7:40pm on July 24, 2006


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27-Jun-2006 - Fireball920 writes:

Holy crap, just watched it. I didn't think you got that close to it. Wow, you were like 2 feet away, that’s the best video I have ever seen of one.

Something I noticed... has anyone here ever gotten a direct hit in the eye with an X5 at that close of a range? *whistles* Lets just say bye bye to any remote chance of having useful night vision for the next few minutes or so. Whatever you encountered was face to face with your camera and mounted X5 and still managed to take off running, over what you say was dangerous terrain, without any artificial light of his own. Any human in that situation after exposure to that torch would be essentially blind, and to top it off if it was a costume it was a massively hairy one that would make running difficult, especially if you were blinded.

Conclusion, what took place was one of two things:
- A prank that Nero or his friends planned out, having someone in a costume waiting there and with a pre-set plan/path on where to run; for a casual prankster that just arrived on the scene would have been screwed in that situation.
- Or that was some animal/thing that lives out there with sharpened abilities to live outdoors, this would include better eyesight and natural knowledge of the terrain.

Quite the catch Nero, nice film.


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28-Jun-2006 - Davidgojr (Texas, USA) writes:

Thanks for sending me the video, Nero. I've also had the chance to take a look at some of the enhanced versions and I've also viewed the video frame by frame. As a scientist, I tend to remain skeptical but it is still an intriguing video. Could you perhaps post a map with the exact spot of the sighting or some exact Lat/Lon coordinates? That way, I can examine the topography of the region and pull up some satellite images to get an idea of just how remote the site was. This may help rule out a prankster outside of your group. I think it's important that you talk to everyone who was there to make sure that this was not a practical joke pulled or arranged by someone in your group.

If you are genuinely confident that this was no hoax, the next step would be to attempt to identify what kind of creature was there. It would be critical for you to return to this site as soon as possible. Treat the area as a sort of crime scene and photograph the exact location around the tree that the creature was hiding. You'll want to do this during the daytime of course so you can have excellent lighting. Look for any obvious features such as prints from boots or shoes that might indicate that it was a person wearing a costume. (Or any prints of any type)

In the video, the creature appeared to be very hairy. It made a quick getaway into the thick bush and would have certainly snagged numerous hairs. All mammals loose thousands of hairs in a typical day and there is a good chance that you could find them caught on briars, bushes, trees, etc. Purchase some inexpensive latex gloves and clean ziplock-style bags. It is important that you do not touch even the outsides of the gloves since even minute amounts of oil or dead skin cells could contaminate any evidence collected. Carefully examine the area through which the creature made its escape and place any hairs you find into the bags. Even a single hair is often enough to obtain enough DNA to make an identification of known animals at a laboratory. This can also reveal if the hair was synthetic (indicating a costume) or the hair of an animal that is used to make a costume. If DNA found on the hair turns out to be unknown, this would be very important.

Here in Texas, we had a case in which someone thought they had shot a Chupacabra. DNA was collected from the mysterious creature and tested at a laboratory for possible matches. It turned out that the creature was a coyote who was infected with a disease causing its hair to fall out and alter its appearance. (Thus making it appear as though it was an unknown species)

Let me know what course of action you plan to take. You might also contact any local scientific laboratories or cryptozoology groups in your area to show them the video. In some cases, these organizations might even attempt to examine the evidence for you. Let me know what you decide to do.


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29-Jun-2006 - Location: Large Ironbark tree (there's only one) Directly oppostite 37 Wellington Road/Drive, Katoomba.

That's a two hour drive from here. Elevation if probably a few thousand feet. You should be able to figure out the Longitude and Latitude within a few feet based on this address.

DNA evidence would not be admissible after so many days have passed. Cost of DNA analysis would be about $2000+ with the possibility of an inconclusive result, assuming such. I think I'll leave it to the "experts" in Crytozoology to define.... the location was about two blocks back from where I took this picture some years ago: videographer's panaromic shot of national park- I'd say that's a pretty remote location. The bushland we were standing on when we took the video leads directly to where this picture was taken.

All the best,

Marco


REMARKS: I registered as a new user on the Wicked Laser forum and tried to establish communications about the video with the videographer. So far, he has not replied to my PM or postings. There has been no further discussion of the video made by the videographer on his forum since June 29-- as if he isn't really interested in what comes of it.


QUESTION: Is this a prank that was played on the videographer and his friends? Or did they catch a glimpse on video of what Australians call a Yowie while they were testing their new lasers? And what do you make of the videos and narrative discussions between the videographer and his mates on the forum?
Touchmymonkey
Cool. Haven't seen this yet. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:


Seemed like bad acting through some of it. I have a MAJOR problem with the fact the "yowie" isn't looking at them, yet responds as if he sees them on cue. Or, the Yowie would have took off way earlier and not wait for them to come right up on it. One might say that maybe the Yowie was curious, but if it was, wouldn't it be looking at them? The creature wasn't tall. You can tell by the height of the camera. Looks like a Wookie suit.

Nothing on the vid that indicated a Bigfoot over a guy in a suit as usual:( Interesting still. Nice find.


"Among his replies to forum members discussing the experience during the first several hours after he launched the thread he expresses his concern that because of his connections with the special effects industry and his wife being a costume designer, some people may instantly dismiss the video as a hoax."


Gee, ya think?

Probably a publicity stunt for the Wicked Laser company.
maxx
I watched the video first before reading any of the backstory. My initial impression was that the responses feel rehearsed, and the yowie looked like it was wearing a really bad blonde wig. I am not ready to completely write it off just yet, for a couple of reasons.

One, he's stamped his name, his wife's name, his business name, all over it. If he is hoaxing then it it's for publicity. If it's for publicity then why didn't we hear about it sooner? Sure he would have contacted the bfro or some other such organization.

Secondly this quote says a lot to me:

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Whatever you encountered was face to face with your camera and mounted X5 and still managed to take off running, over what you say was dangerous terrain, without any artificial light of his own

That’s a real good point, we can’t really see the terrain that well from the video, so again we can only assume it was as dangerous as the video makers say....unless someone goes to the location and verifies it.

I am little bothered by the fact his experience with special effects and his wife was a costume designer was not mentioned till questioned about it. Did he feel it wasn't pertinent? Did he just forget to mention it?...not sure.

I'll watch it some more when I get home and have access to photoshop, and can mess with the frames, but if you made me decide right now, I'de lean toward hoax...which is a safe bet for anything sasquatch related.
Touchmymonkey
QUOTE(maxx @ Jul 31 2006, 06:50 PM) *
I watched the video first before reading any of the backstory. My initial impression was that the responses feel rehearsed, and the yowie looked like it was wearing a really bad blonde wig. I am not ready to completely write it off just yet, for a couple of reasons.

One, he's stamped his name, his wife's name, his business name, all over it. If he is hoaxing then it it's for publicity. If it's for publicity then why didn't we hear about it sooner? Sure he would have contacted the bfro or some other such organization.

Secondly this quote says a lot to me:

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Whatever you encountered was face to face with your camera and mounted X5 and still managed to take off running, over what you say was dangerous terrain, without any artificial light of his own

That’s a real good point, we can’t really see the terrain that well from the video, so again we can only assume it was as dangerous as the video makers say....unless someone goes to the location and verifies it.

I am little bothered by the fact his experience with special effects and his wife was a costume designer was not mentioned till questioned about it. Did he feel it wasn't pertinent? Did he just forget to mention it?...not sure.

I'll watch it some more when I get home and have access to photoshop, and can mess with the frames, but if you made me decide right now, I'de lean toward hoax...which is a safe bet for anything sasquatch related.





Well, the guy immediately started posting about it and sending people vids of it I think. I got the impression he was testing the waters to see if the vid would work against him or not.

The person in the suit would only have to run a few feet. Hardly dangerous.

I always follow any bigfoot case, hoax or not, so it doesn't matter if I already lean toward it being a hoax. Hoaxes are interesting too. To me atleast.

Please post any photoshopped stuff. BTW. You can enhance vids via photoshop? I didn't know that. Or you just talking about the stills?
monkeyboy37
Hello everyone. First time poster, long time lurker. To me and the wife, this looks like a "chewie" costume. Looks like a hoax to me.
Touchmymonkey
QUOTE(monkeyboy37 @ Aug 1 2006, 08:31 AM) *
Hello everyone. First time poster, long time lurker. To me and the wife, this looks like a "chewie" costume. Looks like a hoax to me.




Yes, I've read quite a few comments from people that think the same thing.

Just so you know, you have to post around 15 replies before you can make a thread (unless they changed it). This confused me when I first started posting, heh. So, if your try and start a thread by chance, that's why.
*+'-._,_.-'WhistleR'
QUOTE(Touchmymonkey @ Aug 1 2006, 11:17 AM) *
QUOTE(monkeyboy37 @ Aug 1 2006, 08:31 AM) *

Hello everyone. First time poster, long time lurker. To me and the wife, this looks like a "chewie" costume. Looks like a hoax to me.




Yes, I've read quite a few comments from people that think the same thing.

Just so you know, you have to post around 15 replies before you can make a thread (unless they changed it). This confused me when I first started posting, heh. So, if your try and start a thread by chance, that's why.




Looks interesting for sure, but we really will never know the truth... ph34r.gif
*+'-._,_.-'WhistleR'
QUOTE(Touchmymonkey @ Aug 1 2006, 11:17 AM) *
QUOTE(monkeyboy37 @ Aug 1 2006, 08:31 AM) *

Hello everyone. First time poster, long time lurker. To me and the wife, this looks like a "chewie" costume. Looks like a hoax to me.




Yes, I've read quite a few comments from people that think the same thing.

Just so you know, you have to post around 15 replies before you can make a thread (unless they changed it). This confused me when I first started posting, heh. So, if your try and start a thread by chance, that's why.




Looks interesting for sure, but we really will never know the truth... ph34r.gif


OOPSss!!
Avindair
QUOTE(escAPEe @ Jul 31 2006, 04:50 PM) *
A video clip showing an alleged glimpse of a BF-like animal has been posted on the Internet, this time from Australia. ...


Um...is it just me, or does that "Yowie" look an awful lot like Chewbacca?

Avindair
escAPEe
The videographer has a public web site with over 2 million hits displaying his photographic work. His access,
interest and expertise with the equipment identified in the original post is well documented. This further
corroborates his background story explaining why he was out after dark in the mountains taking video
images of his new green laser at work.

The following photograph is a nighttime image of a <110mW green laser beam he made on 24-Sep-2005 at
an ocean front. The setup he was using on the evening of 24-Jun-2006 in the mountains near Katoomba,
NSW was a camera mounted with a similar green laser beam.



Go to Marco Nero's Green Lasers photo collection
to see the rest of his work in this medium.

The following photograph is a daytime panoramic image he took of the 400 foot deep gorge near the location
where the video of the alleged Yowie encounter took place. This shows the rugged and dangerous terrain in
the vicinity.



So this boils down to which scenario you think is more likely?

(1) Could a person wearing a "wookie" costume as a prank (mask, gloves and all) sneak up quietly on the
group in the dark in near zero temperatures where they were filming laser effects and subsequently was
flashed in the face with a 110mW laser and yet was still able to run off into the brush (above) without being
apprehended?

(2) Or did a creature adapted and knowledgeable of the same terrain (above) draw close, was detected and
then fled as is seen on the original video?

< Edited: To reformat the text for easier reading. >
peiltch
I'm with Monkeyboy and Avindair, it really looks like a Chewy costume. There's even a possible "nod" to Star Wars:

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Hard to say exactly what it was although it spooked us when it moved and then ran off. I recall being a boy scout years ago and the Park Ranger coming by to ask us if we'd seen anything since he was acting on reports by other campers at the time. Was probably in late 1977 at the time.
Saskeptic
"Oh my goodness." "Giggle." "What was that?"

Um, if you go frame by frame on YouTube, you can kind of see that this Chewy, like Peter Mayhew, has blue eyes. It also looks as though the mask doesn't fit too well.
Skeptical Greg
Looks like a Ghillie suit to me..






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The following photograph is a daytime panoramic image he took of the 400 foot deep gorge near the location
where the video of the alleged Yowie encounter took place. This shows the rugged and dangerous terrain in
the vicinity


How about " Allegedly where the encounter took place " ?
Jedi_Master
QUOTE(Skeptical Greg @ Aug 1 2006, 03:54 PM) *
Looks like a Ghillie suit to me..



OMG...

I agree with SG blink.gif :icon_eek:

Anywho

Here is what I think shows a part of the persons face...



Looks like a Ghillie suit to me too...

**Edit to add I changed the color to B/W to show the image better**
monkeyboy37
Yea, I can see where it may be a ghillie suit, but, it reminds me of a chewie costume I saw in the mall around halloween.
monkeyboy37
maybe it's chewie wearing a ghillie suit?
soarwing
And I thought the PGF circumstances were somewhat suspicious.
If you look real close - in the enhanced version - the "creature" is carrying C3PO on his back.
Holy Toledo..... Nothing about this clip seems to be legit.

These sorts of films/videos are nauseating to me.

It's about enough for me to become Skeptical Greg's 1st Disciple.
Touchmymonkey
""""(1) Could a person wearing a "wookie" costume as a prank (mask, gloves and all) sneak up quietly on the
group in the dark in near zero temperatures where they were filming laser effects and subsequently was
flashed in the face with a 110mW laser and yet was still able to run off into the brush (above) without being
apprehended?""""








The laser guy could have been in on it... They flashed his face? Looked like the back of his head to me.

The terrain wasn't too bad, given that 3 of them were out there. There is no indication that the daytime photo
is the actual location of the Chewy vid. Also, the people there could have been familiar with the terrain. Didn't he have a home or something nearby they were at? Chewy was only seen to of ran a few feet.
bipto
QUOTE(Skeptical Greg @ Aug 1 2006, 04:54 PM) *
Looks like a Ghillie suit to me..

In what is very likely a sign of the coming apocalypse, I am in full agreement with Skeptical Greg.
Saskeptic
I still think it's a run of the mill Chewbacca special, right down to the silly black nose. So in a moment of bizzaro-worldliness, I'll let Bipto, soarwing, and Jedi_Master cozy up to a Skeptical Greg explanation while I, respectfully, disagree.

(this is fun)
billgreen2005bigfoot
hey everyone good hot afternoon this new possible yowie filmfootage is very interesting indeed but more research needs to be done on this new filmfootage. in my honest opinion it could be a young yowie. maybe some people here should email the eyewittness who filmed this creature to ask the right questions etc. thanks bill smile.gif please keep me informed. i hope dean harrison & other austraila researchers are realy studying this filmfootage. the forest area in this footage does look like good habitat for a yowie or any wildlife. i wonder what the weather conditions were like when this footage was taken of this yowie creature.
Boogaloo
Does anyone else see that the laser is panning at the beginning, but as as soon as it hits the tree the "Yowie" is standing behind, it gets shut off? Or am I not seeing it right...
escAPEe
Craig Woolheater just posted the news about this video in his blog at Cryptomundo.

Following is one of the best comments I've read about the video clip:

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MojoHotep Says:
August 2nd, 2006 at 4:43 pm

This one needs a closer look. In reality, the “yowie” reacted and behaved exactly like a wild animal. Look at the movement as it turns away from the tree. Notice how it put the tree between itself and the camera man as it fled. It’s technique of blending into the landscape until the last minute is exactly what many wild animals do. Notice also, and this is very important, the “yowie” did not look up at the camera until the very last second. It was deliberatly shielding its eyes from the glare of the camera, until that last second when it looked up before performing that very smooth “ninja” spin from the tree. A wild “yowie” would be experienced enough to know that it’s eyes would glow in the light of the camera. It would have seen other animals eyes glow in the moonlight in it’s lifetime. Different types of animals eyes glow a different color in the light. What color do human eyes glow, what color to yowie eyes glow. That red eye in your photo is the same effect in the dark with a light.

If this is a hoax, then the hoaxer made that “ninja” “fading spin” from the tree on purpose to simulate a wild animal. I could care less about the authenticiy of the fur suit or the mask. The most compelling evidence in this video is the behaviour and movement. This may very well be the real deal, if it isn’t a very good hoax. NOW, if this was a hoax, then we are to the point where the hoaxers have moved past us speculators in the “crypto” world. Their technology has exceeded ours in ability to hoax. SO, a previous poster was correct, if this is the case, then the only thing that will “prove out” now is a body, dead or alive. Don’t hate the mesenger, hate the message, because the hoaxers have created this dilema we find ourselves in. It won’t be long now, I don’t think, before bodies will be produced, but we may find a human inside the suit.


Kudos to you, MoJoHotep!

Either the "actors" wearing the suit in hoaxed videos are getting much better at imitating realistic animal behavior, or this video might have indeed captured a glimpse of a real animal. We just can't apply our "Americanized" Bigfoot expectations to what a Yowie is supposed to look like-- they may not even be the same species. Nor can we apply our "American" judgments to the behavior and verbal responses of the eyewitnesses overheard in the audio track of the original video-- Aussies have a reputation for being low-key and there really aren't any dangerous land animals in that part of the country (unless you're facing a rabid kangaroo). They may have thought that one of the girls from the cabin had shown up to tell them that dinner was ready; only to realize after the creature ran away that this wasn't the case.

MoJoHotep makes a great concluding point. Perhaps the hoaxers are getting better. The next logical progression for this trend is that sometime somewhere somebody wearing a "costume" pulling a prank is going to get themselves shot.
monkeyboy37
Good afternoon everyone. After further review, if you look at ,and ,pause on :32 of the enhanced version. I can see a seam between the shoulder and the arm. I would also like to add, Where is his/her butt? Did Han Solo tell chewie to "lose some weight ya fat bastard!"
Skeptical Greg
Is there another copy of this film we haven't seen ?

I mean the one that MoJoHotep saw ?
Saskeptic
QUOTE(escAPEe @ Aug 2 2006, 05:02 PM) *
Craig Woolheater just posted the news about this video in his blog at Cryptomundo.



IMHO, it's a lousy hoax, and the film subject does exactly what a real animal would NOT do: stand behind a tree right along a path while 2 or 3 chatting humans with lights and cameras walk up the path. A real Yowie (I still can't believe people even entertain the possibility of a creature like this in AUSTRALIA) would have been long gone before the people got anywhere near it, or at least retreated to a safe distance where it could watch the humans undetected.
peiltch
This isn't the clearest overlay, but the mask is nearly identical to the "yowie" face. The nose and teeth especially match nearly perfectly. The darker "Fu Manchu" mustache and lighter forehead are nearly identical...enough so that I don't need further convincing. I agree with Saskeptic that the behavior of the filmer (and friends) and the yowie/Chewy are far from convincing.
Touchmymonkey
QUOTE(peiltch @ Aug 2 2006, 06:42 PM) *
This isn't the clearest overlay, but the mask is nearly identical to the "yowie" face. The nose and teeth especially match nearly perfectly. The darker "Fu Manchu" mustache and lighter forehead are nearly identical...enough so that I don't need further convincing. I agree with Saskeptic that the behavior of the filmer (and friends) and the yowie/Chewy are far from convincing.




It looks like he has his back to the tree. Guess he has a Linda Blair neck. I'll go watch again, but everytime I do, I don't see him turn all the way around, I see him just turn a little left and run off. I know everyone else see it differently, so I'm probably wrong.

It took me a long stare before I could even see something that remotely looks like a face. If it is, it's VERY hairy.


Just watched. I can not make out the turn of the body still. There is something like bare skin where a face would be in a few frames. However, it is sooo small, it looks to me look a whole where the wearer can see out of. It does blend into the enviroment extremely well.

Oh, on each viewing (the version with sound of course) I heard something that might be a panting sound a couple times. Camera man?
youcan'tseeme
Yah, I don't see it turn around unless it's head turns completly the other way, their doesn't appear to be a major shift in the body that would lead me to believe it was looking at them. it seems to me that it was leaning againts the tree and then ran. i thinks it's pretty fake though.
escAPEe
The videographer and his wife are well known in the Sci-Fi/anime genre. In the course of my investigation, I find that Mr. Nero attended and was listed as one of the key draws for the recent Supernova 2006 conference by its organizers. He did not try to hide his connection to the video taken on 24-Jun-2006 when he started a discussion thread about it on 26-Jun-2006 on the laser enthusiasts board (Wicked Lasers) where he serves as a moderator under the username, Nero_Designs. In fact, he brings up the celebrity of his wife and himself as potential problems for other people accepting the reality of what is seen on the video very early in the thread (within the first couple hours of discussion). Otherwise, he is very forthcoming with the story surrounding the video, including the circumstances, weather conditions, date, time and street address location of the video a brief 48 hours after the video was taken.

The question then is not whether the video is authentic and credible; for testimonies corroborate it as being an unaltered video record of the event (the version being hosted on YouTube was subsequently brightened and slowed down to reveal more than the eyewitnesses saw and reacted to at the time it happened). Instead, the question becomes whether somebody knowing that Mr. and Mrs. Nero would be at the rental cabin near the national park at Katoomba, NSW that evening to test laser devices planned and staged a prank or practical joke on the couple. The couple certainly know the sort of people who have the resources to pull off such a hoax.

So far Mr. Nero has been silent on the subject of the video in his discussion thread since 29-Jun-2006, and he has not yet replied to my attempts at communication about the video. Could it be that he now suspects he was fooled? Or perhaps he has just been too busy with his work and private life.

The investigation continues . . . and the truth will come out in due time.
Chunk
That was my Mom. She has hypertrichosis. She's been missing since Reagan's presidency. Ain't she boootiful. A face only a son could love.

Chunk's succint and thorough analysis:

Hoax.

It'd be cool if it were real.

Gotta run.
RavenMadd
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! :bsflag:
Saskeptic
QUOTE(escAPEe @ Aug 3 2006, 05:14 PM) *
The question then is not whether the video is authentic and credible; for testimonies corroborate it as being an unaltered video record of the event (the version being hosted on YouTube was subsequently brightened and slowed down to reveal more than the eyewitnesses saw and reacted to at the time it happened). Instead, the question becomes whether somebody knowing that Mr. and Mrs. Nero would be at the rental cabin near the national park at Katoomba, NSW that evening to test laser devices planned and staged a prank or practical joke on the couple. The couple certainly know the sort of people who have the resources to pull off such a hoax.


Why doesn't the "question" include which one, Mr. or Mrs. Nero, actually picked up the Chewbacca costume at the local party store? Have you ruled out the Neros as co-conspirators just because they were correct about the date and the weather at the alleged fiming location?
cryptidon
"I just want some decent footage of a Bigfoot with a frikkin laser on his head."

Ah, the world of viral marketing. I suppose that clip getting passed around could be worse - it could have been wearing a Cialis T-shirt.

For the sake of consistency, can we at least discuss what people are seeing?
What I saw was the Yookie (Yowie/Wookie) facing the tree, with a forearm resting against the tree and partially covering it's face. The face pops out from behind tree and forearm, and then the Yookie quickly turns, appears to drop and flee (my initial impression was almost that the figure fled as a quadruped). Or maybe the dude pitched head-first into the brush.

Are others seeing anything vaguely resembling what I perceived?
FanofSquatch
Yookie, I like that,funny stuff! Things that bother me, What are they doing at the time,I know that they rented the house and all that but at the exact moment they were out in the woods shooting a laser on the trees? Why? And the reaction,kind of bland. Chewe get us out of here!
Touchmymonkey
cryptidon:

It's like dat blotch test shrinks give. I see a pig, you see.. pam Anderson? Wish I did. they see God. etc.

Actually, what I see, is some more non detailed footage, with bad acting, and NO reason to think it's real. It's a person in a suit, or a Yowie. No brainer eh? I'll bet everyone's life that it's a lame ass hoax. But that's just a guess. And a dumb one.
cipote10
All I can say is that I wouldn't be laughing if I happen to film something like a BF. I would probably freak out, may let out an involuntary yelp, but certainly not laugh....I call this one a fake.
jheard
I see the face of a guy with a goatee or beard and sweat on his brow from the hot costume reflecting the light.

escAPEe
Thank you for the excellent screen capture, jheard. The figure's movement in the video clip is so fast that it does help to analyze the frames one at a time.

However, I don't see the "sweat" on the figure's brow that you describe in your post. Consider that the weather conditions for Katoomba in the mountains of New South Wales, Australia on Saturday, June 24, 2006 at 7:30pm that evening were seasonably cold (it is midwinter in the southern hemisphere) with near zero degree (Celsius) temperatures (that would be the mid to upper 30's Fahrenheit) with a chance for snow flurries. If what you are seeing is just an actor in a costume, then he would have been well suited indeed for the cold weather with no need to break into a "sweat."

Over the course of the past two weeks, the videographer has submitted an original version of the clip along with other relevant materials, completed an encounter report questionnaire, and answered follow-up inquiries in cooperation with an investigation into this video clip. The original video clip is a high resolution 4.9 mB AVI movie with audio that was recorded using the videographer's Canon PowerShot Pro1 digital camera and stored on a removable 1 gigabyte SanDisk. The preliminary report on the video is pending completion of an analysis of interviews with the other eyewitnesses present at the time of the video recording and comparison of the video images with visual daytime photographs of the video scene (especially the vicinity of the ironbark tree seen prominently in the video).

Watch for a findings report about the video posted at Steve Kull's Squatch Detective site when the investigation is completed.
jheard
Any skier knows that you can sweat in warm clothes even if it is zero degrees outside.



I look forward to seeing the hi-res video.
monkey_breck
Could it be a dwarf person in a suit?
David Thomas King
QUOTE(jheard @ Aug 16 2006, 12:29 PM) *
Any skier knows that you can sweat in warm clothes even if it is zero degrees outside.



I look forward to seeing the hi-res video.


So what's the rest of the hair around the face, an afro? Sorry I just don't see a human face. A mask maybe. But a human face? I think you're reading too much into the pixels. IMHO.

Kerry (DTK)
Touchmymonkey
Humans can see a face in about anything. Funny the different variations of faces people see here.
Enjoi
did anyone notice in the edited version (you tube) that it was there for only one can guess the entire procedings of the film?

This struck me as highly unusual when going back and watching it, why would a yowie just decide to "chill out" near a bunch of engineers playing with lasers?

But if where dealing with an ape/primitive humanoid why wouldnt a yowie be curious about a bright shinny laser, much in the same way a cat (or a highschooler) would be?

Also included is the fact that it doesnt move unless its dead certain its spotted, anyone who has ever observed wild animals realizes that wild animals do the same.

For me atleast if I was in doing a hoax i would be nervous i would screw the pooch and constantly look over the tree to see if they where comming.

But then again that does look tremendously like a gillie suit
curtskinn
looks like a wookie suit to me.
jheard
QUOTE(Touchmymonkey @ Aug 19 2006, 08:59 PM) *
Humans can see a face in about anything. Funny the different variations of faces people see here.


There is no doubt that is the face of the creature. I made that screencap straight from the video of the head of the creature. The question is whether that is the face of a human or a yowie. I vote human in a suit.

You can also see the gap between the face and the "fur", which indicates to me the "fur" was not growing out of the head, but is a suit, what a previous poster said looked like an "afro".
Varg
QUOTE(Boogaloo @ Aug 2 2006, 01:42 PM) *
Does anyone else see that the laser is panning at the beginning, but as as soon as it hits the tree the "Yowie" is standing behind, it gets shut off? Or am I not seeing it right...


Yes, it looks as if he does not want to blind the person in the chewy costume waiting behind the tree. Also his reaction to what he sees sounds somewhat bogus IMO.
jorgsor
Well any video posted in "YouTube.com" cannot be taken seriously....
CoolFoot
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jorgsor
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