First day was really nothing that I needed to rush over for. Got to see some old friends and meet some new people, as well as put faces to user names (Utahdude and medicdon, for instance).

Also got to see the unveiling of the AIBR t-shirt. Hairyman shows the back of the shirt (I cropped the photo because Kathy's eyes were closed.) As I don't want to turn this into a sales pitch, if you are interested in ordering a shirt, please PM Hairyman for information.

AWESOME - Ty tug

Saw Hairyman and RB, bipto, adamsclimber, BigfootDad, socalDave and socalJake and some whose names slip my sleep-deprived mind

In the picture below adamsclimber buys an autographed copy of Eric Penz' novel Cryptid: The Lost Legacy of Lewis and Clark. Sitted to Eric's right (photo left) is documentary filmmaker Doug Hajicek selling copies of his Sasquatch Legend Meets Science.

I've got audio recordings of some of the presentations (Jeff Meldrum, Kathy, Owen Caddy, Rick Noll) and hope to get more today. I'll be posting them for everyone as soon as I get some decent bandwidth (or time). Until then, attached is a little preview of Owen's presentation. Way too much technical detail for me to get into now, but he's done an unprecedented analysis of 420 digitized frames of the PG film. As you can see from the attached photo, the results of his work could radically change the popular idea of what the film subject looked like. If you're not particularly happy with Owen's interpretation, I'd say hold back until you hear the presentation.

With the exception of Owen's (who didn't present at Willow Creek), the other presentations are the same subjects that were covered at the symposium back in '02. However, I've found all of them to be greatly improved by the passage of time. It's great to see the progress being made and I'm looking forward to Meldrum's book (coming out later this summer).

hey tugboatwa im glad you had awesome time at the conferance . is this conferance going to be on dvd in near future. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim: :bf: i hope you took more photos of the conferance as well. the aibr t-shirt looks wonderful. thanks bill

You want pictures, Bill? Pictures I have... just no speaker reports until I return from camping later in the week.

From left - ecwool, tugboatwa, tube, MountainLady, RB,tirademan, medicdon, HairyMan, and Jeff Meldrum. Seated in front - winking ML.

Hi y'all ,socaljake and myself just got back from Pocatello. It was great to meet lots of bff people in person for the first time. I was honored to meet medicdon, wolftrax, bipto, tugboatwa,MasterBlaster, utahdude, Tirademan, damndirtyape, mountainlady(forgive me if I left anyone out!) and old friends adamsclimber, Bigfootdad, HairyMan, Tube and RB. Fun time that as usual was way too short! Here's a pic of Chris Murphy manning his book booth.

Gee, guess who made a rare appearence and was a big hit with the kids and adults? Hey socaljake, cool shirt you're wearing!

There was a bigfoot exibit in the Idaho State University's museum. Most things I had seen before or was familiar with. This was my favorite. This is the alleged stick that Sassy stepped on in the PG film. The story is that Rene D. studied the film and went back quite a bit later, located and claimed the stick that was stepped on!

The Rendevous was held in the student union of Idaho State University. In contrast with the International Bigfoot Symposium (Willow Creek, CA) in 2003, which had no air conditioning - and really needed it... the Bigfoot Rendevous had overly-zealous air conditioning, forcing some to grab sweat shirts or jackets, and at least one couple spent much of Sunday huddled together under a blanket.

I know some of you want to know if HE attended. Yes and he did disrupt things a little bit, interrupting speakers on several occasions to ask questions before the Q&A sessions at the end of each presentation... and at least twice using the Q&A sessions to announce his alternative conference in room 205 of the EconoLodge.

The following picture was "taken using a NASA spy camera." EB, on left, talks to Chris Murphy.

Ahh... memories, memories!

Brian looks over the table that was full of casts on Saturday, wondering how the one he wanted had gotten away.

HINT: It's being shipped back to Vancouver, WA by Tugboat.

hey tugboatwa wow those are wonderful photos of the researchers from the conferance makes me feel like i was there. please keep me informed ok. thanks for the reply. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

From left Bob Strain, Kristene Walls, Brandon Bannon, his daughter Cheyenne, and Tom Yamarone.

hey tugboat has the conferance been mentioned in any idaho newspapers or other newspapers in general. thanks bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

I was robbed!

Did HE confront anyone from the BFF? Bipto?

I came to the Rendevous with the assumption that he had viewed both mine and Brian's photos on these Forums.

But he walked by both of us, while we were sitting at a table next to Craig Woolheater at least twice. So no meetings and certainly no confrontations. :new_tiredsmiley:

hey dave good morning im realy glad you had a wonderful time at the bigfoot conferance this past weekend. so did you buy any bigfoot t-shirts or other bigfoot stuff there. im glad you met alot researchers etc there. thanks bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

While there was an article in the local paper, I couldn't find a link.

hey tugboat thats ok im sure there will other articles in newspapers about the conferance this week. thanks bill

He also sat two chairs away from me on a couple of occasions. If he knew who I was, he made no indication of it. Basically, he walked around and interrupted speakers and was a general PITA (but less of one than many of us expected him to be).

With that, let's stop talking about him. He gets too much attention from us as it is...

Hey bill green, actually I was a cheapskate at the conference. Jake and I got our SRI tee-shirts beforehand and I had every book that was being sold but one. Had to leave before I could find the vendor fot that one but I'll get it on the website. Jake made out like a bandit. adamsclimber bought him one of Dr. Meldrum's casts from Walla Walla, WA and Ken, the man who bought Paul Freeman's collection gave Jake a cast from the Blue Mountains, lucky kid!

hey dave wow that is awesome. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

sounds like the sort of event i should have gone to :icon_bang:

Was only able to make it to the little 'fair' on Friday night. Prior commitments and all.

Got one of those sweet bigfootresearch.org t-shirts, some books, some good food and took a few pics.

Here's a sequence of the 'star' I turned into an animated .gif.

Animated .gif of 'fake' bigfoot.

Oh yeah...all rights reserved.

Michael Slade

PS First post...long time lurker.

hi tawayama welcome to the bigfoot forum im glad you had a great time at the conferance. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the welcome. I'm dissapointed I couldn't make it to any of the events on Sat/Sun. I have read that they will be a available as audio or as a DVD? Looking forward to it.

Thanks,

Michael Slade

Those casts where very good quality!

As my first time attending a conference, I had a great time. The presentations were informative and enjoyable, but the best part was meeting all the folks behind the names on the screen here at BFF. Saw some old acquaintances and met a lot of new folks as well. At the risk of leaving someone out, I will not try to list them all, but it was a real pleasure to meet everyone. In fact I'm ready to do it again soon!

hey michael im looking forward to the idaho bigfoot conferance to come on dvd in near future. yes please keep on posting in the bigfootforums other threads as well. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:


hey adam im glad you had wonderful time at the conferance. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

My other favorite thing at the museum was Rene D.'s famous jacket. I showed it to Jake and got little response. But then I explained and put it in this context,'Rene's jacket to bigfooting is like Babe Ruth's jersey to baseball.' With that socaljake fell to the floor in homage and chanted,'I am not worthy, I am not worthy!' Hope no one takes offense, just a teeenager being a teenager. I was amused.

:new_thumbsupsmileyanim: Way to go Jake. I would most likely have done the same thing! :laugh:

My gosh Dave, from the pictures posted, it's for certain that your son has grown into quite the handsome young man. Put a weight on his head or he will be towering over you before long. :wink:

Dana & I enjoyed ourselves this weekend, despite an 11 hour drive each way to and from Seattle. Mostly I hung out with Owen Caddy and Wolftrax. Upon leaving Pocatello Sunday afternoon I witnessed a form of solar "glory" that I don't think I had seen before. The camera was more sensitive to color or brightness than my eye in this circumstance so I only saw the two rainbows laterally to the setting sun and not the subtle full arc seen here in the photo. I think what we see here is similar to a "sun dog" but with a rainbow effect.

I showed some test casts to Bipto, MasterBlaster and his wife, and Ben Radford. I thought I would have to "sell" the argument to these folks, but they all seemed to "get it" right away. Smart people. MasterBlaster asked several good questions, and I wish I could remember them all, as frankly I didn't know the answer to them! One I remember, which I think is a very important question, is just how much water in the substrate does it take before one does not have to worry about casting artifacts? Answer; I don't know.

The highlight of the weekend for me was being able to look at casts in Dr. Meldrum's lab. The low point was the constant interruption of MK Davis' presentation by a particular audience member.

hi tube im glad you & dana injoyed the idaho bigfoot conferance im sorry i missed it but seeing the photos posted of the conferance etc makes me feel like i was there already. i hope this conferance goes on dvd in near future. thanks bill :bf:

Hey Tawayama, ever read Ghoul or Hangman?

Sounds like there was almost as many people at the Pocatello conference as there were on the BFRO's latest 'Ohio Expedition'. :laugh:

Click to view attachment

No. Did I see those novels for sale at the Rendezvous? Are they bigfoot novels?

I'm still getting a feel for who's who in the research field, but who is "the particulare audience member" and why was it a low point, besides the constant interruptions?

See post #8

Okay I went to post #8 and I see two white men. Doesn't ring a bell for me. I don't know who they are thus the reason why I asked the question about the "particular audience member".

If you google "bigfootforums" you should get a hit on a site with that name.

Hint: It doesn't end with .com.

To speak of the gentleman who emails himself and runs that site is forbidden.

For good reason.

JMO

It was a real pleasure to be able to speak at the Pocatello event. I was happy to meet some of the people that I had only known by their internet identities. I learned a lot on Saturday. Owen Caddy's presentation was just superb. It has changed my mind on a lot of things. I've always been interested in Native American rock art and petroglyphs. Kathy Strain's presentantion was very informative. It makes you appreciate how long "hairy man" has been around. This was the first time that I have seen the Skookum cast. The level of detail on that thing is astounding. I can see why they think it could be a Sasquatch impression. I wasn't too put out by EB's interruptions. Brandon was very long suffering with him, and if he had to be escorted out the next day, I'm sure it was necessary. Dr. Meldrum took a complicated subject and made it clear and understandable. It was great to meet him. Chris Murphy's adress was compelling, and included a lot of Native American information, which I think is important. Rick Noll's part helped me to appreciate that the skookum cast has probably not been looked at enough, and may yet produce compelling data. It was great to meet Doug Hajicek. His groundbreaking documentary has changed a lot of people's minds about this subject, and continues to do so. He signed my copy of it, and it goes to my memento cabinet for sure. I thank Brandon and everyone there for having me, and I hope I was able to contribute in a meaningful way. M.K.

SoCal Dave, SoCal Jake, and Ben Radford. Somehow I expected Radford to be dour and serious, I found him quite the opposite. He seemed to be rollicking fun-loving guy. I guess I still have a stereotype of a "skeptic" as an uptight, retentive sort of person. I bought a copy of his lake monster book. Interesting stuff.

I agree with Matt about Mr. Radford. He signed my poster for me. I'm keeping the poster as a personal memento. The signatures that I get for it, do not have to be in agreement with the image, or any of my work. It's just a memento of a part of my life, that has become a larger part than I ever imagined that it would. M.K.

hey mk good late afternoon that was a great reply put in this thread about the conferance. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:


hey mk im realy glad you had a wonderful presantation and talk about your sasquatch research etc at the conferance with everyone there. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

:new_thumbsupsmileyanim: hey tugboatwa good evening so any tv media or newspapers articles about the resent idaho bigfoot conferance. thanks bill . i hope you post more photos of the conferance.

Hello there Mr. Green, and all who made it and did not make it to our little (and Chilly) event in Pocatello
I've got quite a few pics and small vid clips that I will make available, as soon as I catch my breath!
I want to personaly thank eveyone who made it up to Poky and I definately wish that I had more time to meet more of you when I had the chance, and to those of you I did meet and don't remember, i sincerely appologize!! the whole week end was kind of a blur. I would also like to thank all the speakers who performed even better than my great expectations! and other than one bad seed, a few electronic Gremlins, a deplorable lack of local public support, and my pathetic public speaking abillities, I think the conference was a great success!!!! I definatly learned a-lot of what not to do for next time.
keep searchin
Brandon
FallingRock

hi falling rock good morning awesome post about the idaho conferance yeah i couldnt make it to the conferance but yes im looking forward on seeing your videoclips & photos of the idaho bigfoot conferance it will make feel like i was at the conferance even though i wasnt.. please keep us informed here ok thanks for the reply. bill :new_thumbsupsmileyanim: :new_thumbsupsmileyanim: hey fallingrock welcome to the bigfootforums trust me you will like it here.

The Bigfoot Rendezvous was exactly that....a rendezvous!

didn't matter how many folks were there, 'cause there sure were a LOT of friends (both new and old) in attendance...in fact, there were many BFF members there...someone should make a list...it'd be a long one...

and the presentations were well done and I enjoyed them immensely (yes, some for the 2nd time, but this stuff hasn't gotten old yet...)

the museum exhibit was not as big as Vancouver, but Christopher Murphy said the presentation of the material was excellent...and I saw two footprint casts I had never seen before...

all in all, a fantastic time...a wild road trip of over 1700 miles and a weekend spent with bigfooters in the beautiful city of Pocatello!
thank you to Brandon, Kaye, Bill, Bob, Shandi and everyone at Falling Rock for putting on the event! You did your best and that was good enough for me! I understand Murphy's Law...it came into play and you dealt with it.

I'll share some photos from the event....Craig (ecwool) asked me to get him a photo of the bigfoot at the fair on Friday...one of the best costumes I've ever seen...they got the face right and the guy in there (John) was a trooper!



Here's the setting at Idaho State University...the Pond Student Union with the big "I" on the hill...

and the front entrance to the Idaho State Museum of Natural History featuring the awesome 2 story banner by Wolftrax! :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

and Christopher Murphy giving his presentation....yes, the one we heard in Bellingham but with some updates including these great images created by Wolftrax that will be included in the revised edition of "Meet the Sasquatch" - and Chris' talk is just such a great overview of the Sasquatch/Bigfoot phenomenon...it's the audio/visual version of John Green's "Best of Bigfoot/Sasquatch" and then some...

(it just keeps combining my posts...the new fangled BFF...well, I'll be...more later)

hey bigfootdad wow you realy did have a wonderful time at the idaho bigfoot conferance. wow those are great photos you posted in this thread. please keep me & everyone informed ok.

My review of the speakers:

Rick Noll - As with some of the others, Rick's presentation was basically the same I've seen him give before with some updates. Covering the events surrounding the impression that became the Skookum cast and the resulting interpretation of it is very interesting, even for those who've heard it before. In fact, if you haven't heard it from Rick, you should. I'll be posting a recording of his presentation this weekend.

Chris Murphy - Murphy's mile a minute presentation style allows him to pack a boatload of info into a measly 60 minutes. Similar to his book Meet the Sasquatch, his talk was a good overall primer on the subject of bigfoot. Nothing really earth shattering if you're sufficiently well read on the topic, but his enthusiastic delivery and obvious passion makes his time at the mic very entertaining.

Kathy Moskowitz Strain - I think Kathy's work on the Hairy Man pictograph and Native American beliefs is fascinating stuff. I like to use it on the rare occasions where I find myself explaining to someone why having an interest in sasquatch is not analogous to belief in the Tooth Fairy. I'm looking forward to seeing it published in the (hopefully) near future.

Benjamin Radford - Radford is a likable guy, but that doesn't change the fact that he suffers from an excessive amount of skepticism. He bemoans the fact that those of us on what I guess is the not-so-skeptical side of things are always lumping all skeptics into one gooey mass instead of recognizing that some (like him) are reasonable people who apparently are being fair and balanced when it comes to appraising bigfoot evidence. But that doesn't stop him from doing the exact same thing those on the other side. My problem with Radford is, when asked what of the existing evidence is most compelling, his response is the Skookum cast, but even that isn't all that good since it's all just a jumble of shapes to him. Apparently, all those casts and the work of people like Meldrum have no impact on him. He also dismisses all encounter reports since witnesses are unreliable. I agree that witnesses can be unreliable, but there are a number of reports that aren't the run of the mill "hairy thing by the side of the road" kind and aren't easily dismissed. But he dismisses them anyway. IMO, having Radford on the ticket was a good stab at presenting a balanced slate of speakers, but if this is the best the skeptical crowd can deliver, it would have been best to leave him out.

M.K. Davis - Davis is obviously very enthusiastic and dedicated to his work, but his presentation is not much more than him opening up a bunch of random files on his computer and showing them to the audience. It's not a presentation at all since he doesn't seem to have any kind of hypothesis or sufficiently defined objective he's trying to put forth except that he's got a lot of animated GIFs that he thinks show all kinds of stuff on the PG film. I've never seem him present before, so I don't know if this is typical or just an off night. In any event, it could have been better.

Jeff Meldrum - Aces. It does not get better than this. A real, live scientist showing the result of actual science applied to print and cast evidence. Again, basically the same as I've seen before but with some updates. Nonetheless, IMO Meldrum's doing more to legitimize interest in sasquatch than anyone before him.

Doug Hajicek - Hajicek is making slickly produced TV shows that might rekindle interest in sasquatch in the general public. I get that. I just don't like his presentation all that much. I'd rather watch his programs than his PowerPoint any day. He dropped a hint at the end of his talk that he will be making some kind of announcement soon regarding a new program regarding (I assume) sasquatch, so we have that to look forward too. Here's hoping whatever it is doesn't involve looking up people's nostrils for 30 minutes.

Owen Caddy - As I posted before, Owen has done what I think is groundbreaking and unprecedented analysis of the PG film. He gets pretty technical and can't show all the frames he's analyzed in an hour presentation, but his work could (literally) change the face of sasquatch research. Good stuff.

Darrell Smith - Smith's talk started out good with folksy humor and a down to earth delivery, but after about 15 minutes it became obvious that he's out there on the fringe. Once I heard him mention the black helicopters, I wandered off in search of something better to do (like find a Coke machine). I don't think Smith should have been on the agenda. Guys like this don't help advance the field and look especially out of place next to people like Meldrum, Kathy, and Owen.

John Mionczynski - This guy's the real deal. His extemporaneous talk was filled with compelling retellings of encounters he's investigated, as well as his own. It's just these kind of witness accounts that skeptics like Radford never talk about. After he spoke, I found out that Mionczynski spends the majority of his time out in the deep woods working, lives without electricity, and obviously has more manly ability in his left pinky toe than will ever be found in my body or the of bodies of the next three generations of my male descendants...combined.

Eric Penz - I admit to not seeing his presentation since I was at the museum next door looking at the bigfoot exhibit. I did buy his book, though. Here's a review of the book. You can buy it here.

Willie Preacher panel discussion - This was one of the more interesting discussions and it's too bad it was left until last and most of the audience had gone. The Native American perspective on bigfoot is not one I've spent a lot of time exploring in the past, but I hope to become more aquatinted with it in the future.