Driving back from Grand Junction tonight, I was looking into an almost full moon much of the time. The next three days and two nights will find me way out in the middle of nowhere in the San Juan Mtns. and it looks like, unless there's cloud cover, I'm gonna have lots of moonlight. So I was just wondering what thoughts, observations or speculations any of you might have on what if any effect a full moon might have on our search. Any increases or changes in animal activity, or people also for that matter? Any bigfoot-related full moon reports? Any hunter's observations? Does it bring out the howling warewolves? I've never noticed anything but increased visiblity which I'm thinking might be likely to hinder 'squatch activity if anything.
Just throwing it against the wall...

Well usually when you're out hunting it's for critters that hang out in the day (diurnal). Although the likes of moose and deer don't really use their eyesight that much they will move and feed alot more if there is a full moon.

Maybe they can't sleep? I don't know.

As for they big guy, a supposedly nocturnal animal, would they be more afraid of being seen? I don't think so. Just because there's a full moon doesn't mean there's going to be more predators (humans?) in the bush than there normally would be.

I think, if anything, your chances of actually seeing one at night would be increased during a full moon, but only because you can see better.

just my .02

Although i've only been going "out" the last few years, it's been my personal experience that the Full moon has proved unsuccessful for me here in CA. Enough so that in the future I'll be shooting for darker nights when I plan on going out. May just be my luck thus far though as I've read and heard of various Full Moon encounters. I've also witnessed many other animals (mostly deer) who don't seem to have a problem quietly strolling around the moonlight. Take into account that the odds of one or several Squatches being near my exact location at an exact time (even prime location) could be 1 in a 100 at the very best, and basically I've got no evidence that the Full Moon makes a difference. My personal feeling though, which is obviously unproven and unsubstantiated, is that the Full moon doesn't stop or slow their regular activities. I feel it may wane their natural interest and curiosity when it comes to human presence and activities. And makes them, keep safer differences. I'm sure they would be aware that the balance in light shifts with the brighter moon and almost evens out the playing field when it comes to us and our vision capabilities. Well Almost

Here's an interesting article from National Geographic on the subject....

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...21218_moon.html

meant to say safer "distances". Sorry, long night last night- a few girls, about 10 drinks and only three hours sleep and back to work. :new_tiredsmiley:

It alway seemed to make for more night feeding especially the deer.I would think that it would make for better chances of observing more wildlife than normal.Good luck and be safe.

I don't know if all full moons are this way, but I've noticed a lot more road kill after a night of a full or bright moon. Seems the smaller animals that are nocturnal like skunks are more active during brighter to full moons.

Gotta watch out for those werewolves though... :doh:

Mammals yes, reptiles, not as active. Snakes are preyed on by many of the warm fuzzy critters.

You quoted me in your signature! I'm honored!

I know we have police officers and nurese on this board, I am hoping some of them will comment becausssssse......

I know an RN and she says that they get more stabbings, and that admissions in general increase during a full moon. I never heard that dogs bite more though? However, you would think that most nocturnal animals would be a little more active since they could see better......
Just my $0.00

I don't know what a horse's eyesight has to do with that of a Bigfoot, but I was told that a horse couldn't see well, especially not at night. I found out by experience that the horse's eye can gather much more light than does a human eye, so that they not only can see well at night, but with a full moon, they can see almost as well as in the daytime for practical applications. For instance, it was a very dark night, and I had to try to lead a horse across the area in which there was an old barbed wire fence. I could not tell where the fence was still standing and where it had been torn off the posts. I really couldn't see anything. I was in deep woods, and I had to lead that horse out of there. I found out that the horse could easily see where the wire was. If he hesitated when I tried to lead him forward, the wire was in front of us. If he led willingly, the wire was down, and we could go through the gap. Not having led or talked to a Bigfoot, I just have to speculate that he could see pretty well under dark or moonlit conditions. So he can see you pretty well at all times. In the moonlight you might see him better if you had no night vision equipment.

Hmmmm.....I'm not a police office nor am I a nurse, but I teach jr. high. During full moon's, we have much more discipline problems with the students than any other time of the month. Fights, vandalism, etc. So, perhaps to find a squatch during a full moon one should look for adolescent squatches vandalizing the local woods. You know, tagging trees, stealing rock piles, prank howling, scratching on tents and running away....that type of stuff.

:laugh: Just keep them away from the TP.

It's been raining here quite a bit lately so it's been pretty dark here at night, but the other night was clear and the moon was pretty full.

On the way home from work in the morning I saw 2 dead raccoons and 3 dead house cats (road kill).


No big monkeys (sorry)

I remember reading in one of John Greens books, that during the bigfoot sightings at the Quantico Marine base; Ammunition Storage Area ( ASA Monster, the nickname given the beast by soldiers there), a cycle of two weeks or so, was observed between sightings.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/moon_phases.html

I had the opportunity to correspond for a time with an MP, "Ray" that had been stationed there on Quantico in the 1950's. In his sighting, he stated the hairy bipedal creature he saw at night near one of the dumpsters inside the fenced compound did not react to the growling dog " Goldie?" he had on on patrol with him that night. Only when he pulled the bolt back on his rifle, did the creature seem to react , and immediately ran to and cleared the fence.

I think this case may still be on the BFRO

It seems that way to me. Full moons are almost always our busiest night at the hospital, and in the mental health facility as well. Of course, I might just be superstitious...

In a silly way that may have some truth to it who is to say a young bigfoot could not have similar human personality traits.I read about a truck driver that had his beard stroked by the supposebly female bf standing next to his trk window while the male bf attended to an even smaller "bf child" sitting in road.I don't know? maybe to much tom collins tonight but at the present time it sounds like reasonable thinking even if the drivers story was false.I'm thinking an adolecent bf child could be a little troublesome sometimes.
Would there be a mom and pop type family atmosphere or single mom type raising for a bf child or has this ever been discussed?I think i will stop here tonite.

Not that it really matters for anything, and nowhere in particular to put it, so here is fine.
And for anyone who might be interested for a minute or two or sorry to bother you,
or might be willing to give one of those rat's ass hot items I keep hearing about..
or just something to peruse over the coffee...

When I started this thread, those two nights were at:
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=9018 and then at http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=1350
for first visits of the year. Nothing seen or heard to note.

The next Sunday, I was made aware of an account concerning an evenings observations a week ago, not too very far away from where I was at the same time, same mountain range anyway, which happened to mention that brilliant full moon, involving continuous crashing in creekside brush, a very low rumbling growling, and huge footprints on the boggy edge of the water. So much so, that a longtime outdoorsish couple got scared enough for the first time to leave a campsite at dark. Woo-hoo! A good and recent lead.....that's why. I'm there. Get there that night, just before sunset. As it happens, that location was very near this one: http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=2110. Interesting accounts.

So I get to this valley at about 8:30. Sun getting low. Found the exact location. Checking out the area. Start down through the brush to start walking waterside looking to see if any tracks remained after a week. I wasn't there, stomping around through the brush and mud and sand and goop, for about ten minutes when I heard an unusual sound, a sound unlike any that I've ever heard before. From the ridge above and to the north, maybe up 500' and over about a half-mile, I heard what sounded like a fairly loud bark. Very short, fairly distant, deep pitch, seemed to be loud to even be heard as well as I did. I would spell it "Rark!" Well, that caught my attention. Nothing certain. But noted. I scoured the immediate area as well as I could in the half-hour of light as it quickly turned to the last hints of twilight on the western horizon. Beautiful location. Water had been high at some point in the days earlier, fisherman's tracks, deer tracks, duck tracks, but no tracks, bummer. So I'm rolling out my air-mattress, sleeping bag and blankets, and other stuff to snooze in the back of my truck. Heard Drudge talk with Bill Gertz about N. Korea fueling a missile and wondered what the morning news might be. Clear-skies, no weather, no bugs, no tent. Perfect, under the brilliant stars, watched a hundred satellites and half-a-dozen shooting stars. In the middle of this, I hear, from the same spot on the ridge above, very loud and clear, sharp wood-knocking. I've heard this several times now and have become convinced, within reasonable qualifications, that these knocks are very likely a means of communication between these things. That doesn't mean all, that doesn't mean every, that doesn't mean....I'll try to express what the rate of the knocks was like; 1..2..34..5,6..7..8. It was Sunday night. The weekenders and fisherman were gone. There was no one else in this valley at all when I showed up, or at least no cars or camps. And this was pretty far up on a rugged climb at about 10,500'. Would somebody be up there now doing those things? Or could those people possibly have bumped into one or more of these creatures, in an area that may provide a home, or seasonal home for some of them? Interesting thoughts to eventually fall asleep to. Heard nothing the rest of the night or the following morning. Apples, peaches, granola and snickers bars out in certain places went undisturbed. I made instant buddies with a few chipmunks, who otherwise were standing up in the morning sun nibbling at flowerheads. Poke around for a few hours. Perfectly logical location. Only area in this valley that offered passage from the higher mountains immediately above down to this water with the continuous coverage of trees and dense brush, only interrupted by one dirt road, and then a little side road cut out parking area. Fwiw.
Next up; when everyone gets out of the woods, couple days in the Buffalo Peaks Wilderness Area.

i've been a psych nurse for 21 years (god how time flies) and i have definitely noticed an increase in admissions and behavioral problems in the psych arena. i currently work in a prison, and we dread the full moon because of the increase in bahaviors.. also i've noticed more bahavioral problems when the moon is in mars.

as far as bigfoot and full moon sightings i dont know, but it'd be interesting to find out.

gael

In my years working at hospitals I've noticed more babies born, and a lot more emergency room activity during full moons. When the hospital had a psych lock down unit it was generally busier during full moons as well. Some of the ER reports were quite interesting to transcribe. lol

I'll have to pay attention and see if the full moon has any effect on the wolves. You'd think I'd have noticed that by now. Some nights they howl quite a bit, other nights they don't howl at all. They've been playing a lot more than usual lately, but I haven't thought to check the moon phase.

I am not a nurse, although I have admired their sexy white outfits and black flats---but I can never really remember anything remarkable happening during a full moon. Everytime I'm out and about, I don't smell anything different...I mean the changes in my body are nothing sort of hysterical, you know...the elongated snout, my canines growing larger and sharper and of course the feeling of power that arises from strength and visious carnality as hair covers every inch of my supple body...but, when I'm rooting about for furry mammals or that one delicious morsel of human flesh, everything seems pretty kosher. One time, I thought some folks were getting busy in a pup tent during a full moon, but it turned out they left the radio on and it was just the Pussycat dolls chirping away. They were snoring. During a full moon no less! No outrageous sex acts, no screaming, no pornographic thrashing...

I ate them. Nothing spectacular. Human flesh tastes the same during a full moon or a gibbous moon or a quarter moon. :wink:---I ate them during the pop chart hit: Stickwitu

Really, this full moon stuff is an over-reaction. Road-Kill? Come-on!!! How ridiculous. I kill small animals for fun. They don't all of a sudden run into a major road because the moon is full. "Look, I'm a bunny and the moon is full! I think I'm going to dart in front of that Hummer!" I'm just having fun in the woods. A swipe here, a swipe there. You haven't lived until you take out a whole family of opossums and leave the runt to live. That's some funny sh__. After you hurt 'em they crawl into the road usually...or I drop them there. County workers scoop them up...I pay taxes for that, damnit! :new_grrr:

Full moon, schmool moon. Hmmm. I see better during a full moon. That's it. Nothing else.

here is a relevant link to the full moon and studies done on animals and humans.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20...21218_moon.html

I'm a bit skeptical of claims that the full moon turns us into killers, psychos, baby machines, or anything else for that matter.

RayG

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=14997

Article of possible interest to the subject of this thread:

A SYSTEM FOR CORRELATING BIGFOOT ACTIVITY WITH CHANGING LUNAR PHASES

Just for the sake of curiosity, I found this web site, Moon Phases 1700-2035 and then went to the BFRO, and matched up the first ten actual sighting reports I came across, with an actual date. Most of the reports are only specific as far as month, or season of the year. Many of the reports do refer to if there was a moon or not, or if it was behind clouds etc at the time of the sighting. Here's what I come up with on this random sampling....

#1 was 2 days after the beginning of the Last Quarter
#2 was 1 day before the beginning of the Last Quarter
#3 was 1 day before the beginning of the First Quarter
#4 was 4 days after the beginning of the Last and 3 days before New Moon
#5 was 3 days after the beginning of the New Moon and 4 days before First Quarter
#6 was 2 days before beginning of the Full Moon
#7 was the night of the beginning of the First Quarter
#8 was 3 days after the beginning of the New Moon and 4 days before First Quarter
#9 was 4 days after the beginning of the First Quarter and 3 days before Full Moon
#10 was 3 days after New Moon, 4 days before First Quarter

So just looking at the above examples, it looks like the phases of the moon have no effect overall. It's been sighted during all phases. Then again remember, GIGO (Garbage In Garbage Out), so unless all of these reports are 100% accurate, the results won't be accurate.

But maybe it can lend a little guide to the HUMAN element? All the years I have worked with the public, almost guaranteed if we were having alot of "strange" calls, for example, well, the people who were not quite in touch with reality... well sure enough it was either a new moon or a full moon, seemed like every time we were going "My God, what the heck is wrong with people????".... it was one of those moon phases. It got so bad at one call center that we knew we were going to get a call from a specific individual based on the phase of the moon, the question was, who is gonna have to talk to him this month? We even had a manager who was designated to deal with him. So, it makes sense to me that the "questionable" reports should show up more so at that time of the cycle. I have noticed, and will not specifically mention who, but a couple on this forum who seem a little more out of touch with reality in certain lunar phases. Believe what you will, most who work with the public have seen it :laugh:
SK

Thanks Moregon, as usual excellent post. I believe there are just to many variables to come to any conclusion with certainty. The reports in my area seem to have a "Fall" pattern, and there could be numerous reasons why, I'm leaping to an assumption that possibly hunters in the fall tend to go deeper into the wilderness area's where recreational use tends to stay closer to water (Lakes/Rivers/Streams), the reports are typical of the encounters (hunters, recreational visitors, vehicles) with variety in day or night (no pattern). Hunters appear to find more tracks, vehicles and rec users have physical type encounters.

Snow Kitty when it comes to the Moon affecting Human Behavior, I've seen that first hand myself. I worked for a number of years with the Mentally Disabled, and without a doubt the incidents of unwanted behavioral patterns increased around the time of a full moon. Whether it actually had something to do with the moon being full in appearance, or maybe it disturbed their sleep patterns, I don't have a clue. But something affected them.

NWsquatcher, I also have seen a similar pattern based on seasons when I've looked at numbers of sightings in respect to the seasons of the year. I agree that fall would mean more hunters deeper in the woods, summer means more people outside doing things such as camping, boating and fishing. Winter time is usually the low point, does that mean fewer bigfoot in the area, maybe due to migration? Maybe, but it might simply be that more of us spend our times INDOORS, rather than outdoors where we need to be to see them.