Regarding the newest BFRO report (here)... I haven't decided if I'm 100% pro kill or not but WOW what a missed opportunity this guy had! I think the creature must have thought both of the ATV riders had continued on up the trail and didn't realize one of them had stopped when it stepped out of the brush. Also, his description of the of the thickness of the creatures body hair I found to be very interesting. If the report is true (I saw no red flags, and I'm very suspicious of most reports) then it suggests that the BF living in cold climates must find shelter deep inside caves during the winter months or they'd freeze.

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Yes I agree that was a very good report, It sounded good and simple with a twist that sounds like a very good reason for Bigfoot to make itself visible after such noise. I myself just bought a Yamaha Kodiak 400 and have been using it to place game cams in hard to get places. I would like to have had that shot but it would be hard thing to do!

I have read reports by hunters and have often heard other people ponder why they simply didn't shoot the creature. My own perspective, being a life-long hunter is not particularly difficult to impart, but often difficult to get others to believe. Perhaps there is a "hunter's ethic" in play, or perhaps there is a "wonder" at seeing something unexplainable, and wanting the encounter to run its course without violence. When I hunt deer, I'm a deer hunter. Case in point. When hunting the Shawnee National Forest in Illinois a few years back, 1999 I believe, I encountered a wild pig. Not a feral pig, but a true wild pig with long fur. It walked right past me and I could have taken it with a .22 handgun. I didn't shoot, because I was hunting deer and not pigs. Plus, I had never seen a true wild pig in the woods and wanted to continue observing it as long as I could. What's even funnier, is I had a camera in my back pack and didn't think about reaching for it.

I took a lot of ribbing from my hunting buddies because Illinois doesn't have any wild pigs. I called the department of natural resources and they told me Illinois doesn't have any wild pigs. I told them "well, it has at least one!" They took my name and number.

Three or four weeks later a DNR game biologist called me and we talked. Turns out there is a theory about how the pigs may have gotten into Illinois from Missouri and it involves the major floods of 1993 and 1995. So, Illinois now has wild pigs and it's been confirmed.

But getting back to the point of this. I never even thought about shooting this animal. Even now, after hearing the DNR biologist say that Illinois wants them shot on sight, I probably wouldn't. Hunting has never been a "killing" sport for me. I'm sure there are other hunters who feel the same way. But truthfully, if you have a shred of humanity in you, I doubt with all my heart - false bravado aside - that you would be able to put your scope on the back of one of these creatures and pull the trigger, merely for the satisfaction of proving they exist. If you could, I don't think any real men would buy you a drink.

P.S. There are rifle scopes now that have quality digital cameras mounted in them. They are pricey, but might work better than killing a bigfoot.

Dan

I imagine the last thing a hunter with a gun would ever expect is to have a surprise encounter with a supposed legend that doesn't exist, I mean I believe in the possibility that BF exists, but if I was to run into one while armed, I can't imagine how thrilled, frighted, intimidated and whatever other emotions I might experience, it wouldn't surprised me if I just froze in time seeing the BF. I can't even imagine what a hunter who doesn't believe in BF or given it much thought one way or the other would go through. I imagine he would be frozen with a gun in his hand as well.

If a BF ever gets shot, I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't because mistaken identity such as the hunter thinking it was other big game not ever realizing what it was until after the fact.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't know personally, nor would I hunt with, someone that would shoot something that hasn't been identified properly.

That said, I can't see myself shooting something that must be endangered and in most probability don't BBQ all that well!

Aside from vermin I don't shoot it if I ain't gonna eat it.

I know that I personally wouldn't be able to shoot one unless it was threatening me in some way.. but I'm not a hunter and don't carry a gun so I guess if it came after me I'd be toast. I also agree completely about the shock and surprise experienced when suddenly encountering a BF, (although you'd probably be quite a bit more shocked if you didn't already believe they existed). I also know from personal experience that once you regain control of your faculties that the flight or fight response kicks in and dumps all that adrenaline in your bloodstream and the only thought is to get the heck out of there asap. I was holding a camera IN MY HAND and completely forgot it was even there until I was well down the road. I'm sure this is 100% of the reason why the only half way decent photographic evidence we have was taken by someone who was specifically looking to photograph a BF and was at least somewhat mentally prepared.



But, on the other hand it is an inevitable fact that when the creatures existence is finally accepted by the scientific community that they are going to have to kill one asap in order to fully study it's physiology....


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I agree entirely, all I'm saying is it isn't going to be me.

Even if an absolutely pristine photograph were to emerge by an unimpeachable source, there are many on this forum who would work tirelessly explaining how it could have been faked!

It will take a corpse.

Dan C

Its rather sad but the fact is yes we will need a dead sassy to prove the exsistance of the animal,I for one hope they dont catch up with one because I have a feeling that this may encourage more aggresive behaviour then already seen by some of the animals.
On another note maybe live trapping???It would be very difficult but there must be a way...Afterall they found the ''new'' species of deer in vietnams jungles through live trapping back in the 90s.

Someone tried a trap....didn't work...

It's a nice looking trap, If I could get out of it, I'm sure a bigfoot could.

Great idea though!

cheers

Alex



That report comes from very deep in the Northern Ontario forest too. It is a very remote area near the town of Red Lake (comes up on google and mapquest maps really well).

You drive up this highway and then the road ends and there is the town and there are dirt roads leading out of town, but not too far. This is where us 'city folk' go camping!

There have been other sightings nearby and at Sioux Lookout (not that far away) and Lac Seuil.

I believe (having been there in all 4 seasons) that there is some strong activity here that is kept quiet by (mostly amerind) locals, and I don't blame them for that.

I believe that the advent of 4-wheelers gets man deeper into Bigfoot habitat and will scare them further away from us.

It's a great report and I am glad to see another from Ontario!

Cheers

Alex

I was happy to see this report as well . . .although it is a little old. I am based in Kenora, which is about 3 hours south of Red Lake, but my wife's family is from there and as a result I am up there visiting on a regular basis. My father-in-law hunts, fishes, guides etc., so he has an extensive knowledge of the area . . . I will be bringing this report to his attention to see if he knows the location for a quick look around. AS BigAlx stated, tehre have been a number of reports around the Lac Seul/Siox Lookout area that are mostly kept quiet by the folks around there.

Just to let you know though, in the original post on this thread, it was mentioned that due to the cold weather, these creatures must live in caves to keep warm. The terrain up in this neck of the woods is Canadian Shield, which is really hard, thick granite, and I have not come across too may caves that could house a Sasquatch type creature . . .