This is a photo being discussed on a couple of other boards.

What I know of the story is that a researcher named Jimmy took a video of an area one day and didn't notice this on the film until a later date when reviewing the film. This is a still from the film. It is causing a stir on some of the other forums.

I am also going to try and upload a .gif file that is animation from the same film...if it will work.

Ok..talk amongst yourselves...

Maybe, maybe... but wait, I remember a photo - http://www.n2.net/prey/bigfoot/images/oregonbf.htm - posted on Bobbie Short's website that looked very promising until the woman who took the photo returned to the photo site.

She saw the same shape, and took a series of pictures as she approached the suspected "Bigfoot" to discover it was just an old stump. The series of pictures were priceless.

Looking at the first photo, I see nothing (not even a blob)
but I notice your GIF has a circled area that actually is in the
lower left hand corner of the first frame you posted.
Does this imply a sequence of vid captures showing something
moving left to right Arky? Do you have more?

I remember that photo Tug

The in the first photo is the exact color of the tree it is next to. My verdict, tree.

I noticed something about the animated gif you posted. One, the two frames are not the same size. The second frame is smaller and therefore very hard to use for comparison purposes. Two, the second fame is at a slightly different angle from the first. This also makes it hard to compare them.

I took the image into Fireworks and attempted to make the two frames more alike. I used the large branch in the top right corner as a guide. Based on this new version, I'd have to ask the photographer how much wind was blowing that day. The dark shape in the background does not appear to move, but the brush in front does.

Just for giggles, I inverted the first photo to see if any more detail could be coaxed out of it. Judge for yourself:

I am sorry Arkansan but I don't see a thing on the first picture you put up there and on the animation I see something move but I can't make out what it is. It could be anything.

Someone in a suit trying to hoax or something genuine possibly but you can't make out what it is or I can't anyway.

So in my opinion it would not be worth showing on the internet because of that.

I only wish someday we could have a picture that is actually worth looking at that some one took that would really show the animal like you did on the zoo pictures of the Apes.

I hope I don't make anyone mad at me cause of me not seeing anything.

It might just be my eyes cause they are not all that good anymore.

Whose picture is this anyway. Who is the Jimmy you are talking about?

I am not calling Jimmy a liar or anything. (just think is general attitude sux) Great, now he will be here to complain about his perrsonal problems with other organizations.

But this has the usual line assosiated with the "Blobqsquatchers". didnt notice until later. Why is it always "later" that they discover this amazing find? If it wasnt discovered unntil later, what the hell was he doing video taping a bunch of dried up sticks??

I've said if before, I'll say it again: If it wasn't there when you took the picture, it was there.

LOL...don't be sorry Ranshirl! That's what I posted it for. There is a big debate over whether he photographed a bear or a bigfoot and personally I have doubts that it is either. Sadly another blobsquatch that we have grown accustomed to seeing by now.

Bipto and SkunkHunter hit the nail on the head for me. If you don't see the bigfoot when you are doing the filming, then it's likely there wasn't one there.

I don't have any more facts on the story, you can read about it on the Appalachian Mtns. Bigfoot Research Forum", "Hoax Busters" or on Jimmy's new "Bigfoot Argument Forum" if you like.

But I must warn you, you would first have to weed through the garbage being slung around to find it. There is a big fued going on between them and it isn't pretty.

I just wondered what the people here thought about the photo.

Couldn't see anything in that photo, except trees that is.

But I must warn you, you would first have to weed through the garbage being slung around to find it. There is a big fued going on between them and it isn't pretty. - Arkansan


Consider the sources. Could be a sasquatch. Could be a tree. Could be Ralph Nader embarrased because of a hole in his undies and he got in nettles and its not pretty either.
Next !! Thanks Ark, it shows the crap that people involve themselves in so emotionally that common sense flies out the window to be replaced with motor oil and poorly potted plants. Wait, I should edit that. Naw.

Great. Now i'm gonna look like one of the crackpots - I do see what could be a bigfoot shaped figure walking in your version of the animated gif bipto - with an arm swing even.

But you're also right - it could be a stump with trees blowing in front of it.

If this is from an area with recent bf activity - who knows? Totally inconclusive.

-Ray

Isn't that the continuing problem...

WE can't see the Bigfoot for the trees

If it was supposed to be a video of a bigfoot walking through trees, that'd be fine, but it was a video of trees, period. The bigfoot didn't show up until later. Therefore...

I take the grand prize for stupid. I'd seen the still lots of times on other boards. And I thought I could see plump, fluffy furball. Now, to my chagrin, I was looking at the wrong part of the photo. I didn't even notice the part that was supposed to be the Bigfoot. The video, I don't know--I'm anything but an expert. This is not the first time this has happened to me. Once there was a photo on some board and I thought I could see the BF perfectly. Then I found out that was thought was the BF was just blurred brush and shadows and the alleged REAL Bigfoot, I had not even noticed.

Something tells me I'd better never make a comment about a photo again in my life, unless it's as clear as Patty--which none of them are to this day. :rolleyes:

Well I might have to edit but look in the center of this blowup of the same frame.
Notice anything odd or out of place? :rolleyes:

Enlarged the photo shows what appears to be one or two people hunkered down behind the trees.
I see the outline of a ball cap (under a poncho type garment)but the "odd" thing is the coffee cup that jumps out clear as a bell.

bigfoot photo .....I don't think so.

Robert

OMG... I have one that looks just like that...The coffee cup not the pic.

Well, I don't see squat, bupkus, nodda, nuttin honey with nanners and a lil' sugar on top. What the hell are these people taking pictures of nothingness for? just randomly taking shots of trees and sticks? If it aint there, it aint there. We aint gonna get nowhere with these fuzzed-out pictures of sticksquatches. If we were, someone would have already hauled in a load of sticks and leaves and said "there, mystery solved".

I see it, I see it. OMG An actual photo of a ...... guy having a cup of joe. Holy schmidt someone call Art Bell.

Good job Robert

I don't see a thing but trees, that's the thing that kills me so many people have photos of practically nothing but shadows and trees and claim they are bigfoot. I have a game cam out in the woods for hunting and if I were to look through some of my photos I could probably find dozens with shadows or trees that appear to have sasquatch-like shapes in them, but I know they are just trees, bushes and shadows

Thats wht gets me about all these folks who have thses photos of that BF that just later showed upo in th film.

Why do these folks take pictures of dead dried up trees , or shoot a video of basically, nothing. At least if they said that they were filming a wild rare bird or something. But no, just a stupid video of some plain old woods, you know, just for the heck of it.

Do you know what? I am gonna have my bro take a picture of me holding up a pile of dead vegetation, maybe next time I cut my banana trees. I will kneel next to it with my rifle and submit it as a BF kill photo.

You know some day someone will have that photo.A good one.But they won't share it on a forum
But if you got a photo of a and really don't know what it is ...
I'm afraid not the case here....don't try and push it off as valid without being ready for questions.BF folks will slice and dice.
I do not know JimmyOkla (what a nick) but have talked with him in PalTalk and seen his ongoing battle of wits with others.
People you don't need a to be accepted into the Wide World of Sasquatchdom.

see ya.....

Robert

Guess I'll have to share that grand prize with you Ella. I clearly see a bear snout sticking out from behind a tree in the middle of the picture. Now I'm totally confused.

I think everyone needs glasses

Now BEAR with me.....

Try this one

Now if thats not clear enough...there is no bear.
It is two people behind and beside a tree.
One standing one on their knees.
What they are doing is anyones guess but the coffee cup is clear and so is a hand holding the tree when blown up.

Case Closed.
Jimmy Okla aint got no Bigfoot pictures.

I agree with you, Ben_There.

*********UPDATE ON MY VIDEO*************
June 30 2003 at 12:34 PM jimmyokla (Login jimmyokIa)
from IP address 24.117.93.15


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This is not a slam to anyone or saying I dont beleive anyone regarding my tape.I have just spoke with Paul Moore of the Oklahoma Dept. of Wildlife in Oklahoma City regarding my sighting in the Wann, Okla. area.He advised me that NO bears have been introduced to this area and if there was a bear in this area it would not do well because of food sources and would begin to rumage for food in dumpsters and trash cans in the area.He said he has had no reports of such.I also spoke with Game Warden Jeff Brown in Nowata Co. Okla. as to my sighting and he advised me the same thing and also added that the last time he has had to deal with a bear was 12 years ago in Foyil,Oklahoma which is 40 miles from this area I took the video.Paul Moore and Game Warden Brown want to see the video in question.Paul Moore asked me to send a copy to him in OKC and he would return it.He said he is VERY interested in seeing it.Warden Brown said he also wants to see the video and would be available Thursday to see it.He said he will contact me and set up a time to meet him so he can see it.So I will go from here with the video and I will be satisfied by thier conclusion.Just thought I would let you all know.

jimmyokla

Found on High desert Bigfoot.This is too rich.

I see the coffee cup and I think I see the people but it is blurry from being so blown up.

PSSST! It's a tree! Mum's the word!

Well, I'll damn sure know not to say I see a bear again!

Thats it though JD.In the first unenhanced photo it does look like a bear snout.at the side of the tree unless you look closely at the blow ups provided by Robert.Its very hard to tell that its a person at all.I thought it was a bear at first too,based on the first photo posted by Lisa.Not until really looking can you make out the other details in the photot,and if you have to look that hard,well.....

Ummmm....I vote for a very fuzzy, bad pic of a .....

What the heck? Can't anyone take a clear picture of a blob? Sheesh.... :rolleyes:

Well, if it is a sas, I must have about a hundred of them in my backyard


For goodness sakes, when will people pull their heads out of their ahhh..sandboxes and realize these types of photo's are total manure?????

'nuf said

Redwolf

Some folks are too hopeful, they see BF everywhere. But usually only after reviewing the pics or video, just never when they were taking the photo.

Damn Blobsquatchers are multiplying again.

If someone came here and said "I saw a BF, it was through the trees but I got a crappy photo that doesnt show much, but here it is anyway." I really dont have to much of a problem with that. Its the folks who only see them on film and have no good story as to why they were filming a rather bland lanscape for no reason. When they tell us that it "CLEARLY" shows a Bf, is when I say toss the pic in the trash and give it up.

SkunkHunter (know nothing armchair researcher extraordinaire)

Question? On the "Update of my video" The guy refers to it as "his sighting" How in the world could it be considered a sighting if he never saw it with his own eyes, the way I understand this, he did not see it until "after he played back the film and then noticed it. The people who did the blowups did a great job. Don't feel bad miss Ella, I could have sworn the blowups looked like a cup sitting on top of a cows head lol.

You are going to be just fine here. Good question.

I second that motion brer skunk

Actually, my favorite "I saw it AFTER I got the roll developed"
picture comes from a motocrosser in VA.

Go to the bottom of the page, normal photo and a blowup.
I'm not sure what to think. Have at, love your critical views
on these, honestly...

http://hometown.aol.com/burnnlov/index.html

and ignore the "download attachment" you'll only get gibberish,
my mistake in attaching it Bipto, sorry...

That one was always interesting to me. But it has all the features. "Didnt see it until we developed the roll." The photographer had to have seen the guy comming up the hill on the ATV for a good while. I dont know how fast the guy was going but I am sure the photographer has been looking at his subject for a good while, seeing him comming up the hill, then through the camera itself. Its not like it was a surprise all of a sudden type of picture. The person certaintly was not starteld by the noise so had to look down there for a few moments.

If you look carefully, it would seem like the "brown thing" really isnt that far back there. You almost have to picture the ATV going backwards down the hill to that spot. That makes it look like it is only about 3 feet tall. and thats probably why they didnt see it before the picture was taken.

I vote for stump or anything like that.

Hey Skunkie, I understand that the photo you posted is a well-known hoax. About like the one with the guy standing on top of the WTC on 9-11 with the plane heading straight for his back. It was called, "This man had real bad luck" or some such thing.

I'm eager to hear what those game wardens of Jimmy's will say. IMHO, the picture could be of anything and maybe there really was a Bigfoot in the bushes. Like most photos and films taken, it's just not clear enough to be conclusive. But unlike the picture that Skunkie presented above, it is not an obvious, deliberate hoax. If I were Jimmy, I would go back to the area at some future time and try to get a clearer picture and cast some tracks if he finds them. :|

From one know-nothing armchair researcher extraordinaire to another, I'd say you're right on there Skunk!

And the ATV pic? Maybe we're looking at a previously unknown pygmy sasquatch!?!

My point EXACTLY Jim. The shhhhh "bear snout" shhhhh I was talking about in my reply to ELLA was what I saw in the FIRST picture posted by Lisa.

And looking closely at the blow ups provided by Robert doesn't show anything that looks like a person IMO. Oh well, guess I really do need glasses.

But the 'people' are the same color as the tree they're supposedly standing next to. Maybe they were in camo, but it'd have to be pretty good camo to blend in so perfectly. Also, remember the guy didn't see anything until later. He wasn't taping movement or anything in particular, just the scenery.

We can stare at the picture long enough and find anything we like in it, but our finding a bear or two people holding a coffee cup or whatever is really just the same as saying there's a bigfoot standing there.

Very, VERY good point Bipto!

You are right. Everytime I look at it again its different. I thought I saw a cup in Roberts blow up. But now I dont know what I see. I definitely dont see any people.

I still want to know what the original intent was when taking the video tape. The subjetct matter at hand. I asked Jimmy on another message board. But a few posts later he said he will not post ever again. (not due to my questions , but ther was some other personal crap going on with him and others) Well he still posts there but still has not answered my questions. Maybe he didn not see them?

I dont want to get into too much discusion with him because honestly I dont think he is capable of level headed debate. Lets just say he "does not play well with others" he is very vengeful.

Not trying to slander Jimmy or anything, but there is no Sasquatch that I can see, in his photograph. I'm just being honest.

I think this is a really good example of how humans work. Someone we know says they see something and we're drawn into seeing it too. We have these two impulses that go hand in hand towards this kind of thing. One is the need to find order in the chaos (drives scientists and theologians alike). The other is some kind of tribal need to support our own kind. You can see how different web-based 'tribes' (that is, other boards or BF orgs) can get a certain thought in their heads and toss rocks at other 'tribes' with differing opinions...

Whoa. That went a little deeper than I planned!

Right on.

I am painting my face up and heading off to other tribes with a big bag of rocks. Because my tribe is less wrong than their tribe of course.