BFRO Declares War on Cryptomundo

Sometimes it is all about Malaysia, baby! Sometimes it’s not.

Immediately upon publication of the Sunday New Straits Times article, “Book Has Bigfoot Pictures”, following in the wake of the Cryptomundo exclusive on the Johor Mawas photograph story, the BFRO published the Malaysian news item followed by one of their editorializing “commentaries.”

The new BFRO comments have more the appearance of a copy of an email sent to Vincent Chow or some one in Malaysia than an editorial directed at the public. Nevertheless, it says a good deal about the current flavor that exists within the BFRO organization as personified by its director, Matt Moneymaker, during these troubled days in which important members are leaving. How is it helpful in speaking to the Malaysians to use sarcastically a phrase like “many splendored things”?

The BFRO has always taken an elitist Western approach in dealing with Malaysian sources, giving them advice and BFRO “insights” on how the Johor investigations should be conducted. The BFRO, mostly as a front to the opinion of one man, has extended this international “advice giving” recently to Nepal, as noted on April 22. Some of the BFRO’s advice, as we have seen, is neither cautious nor factually-based in historical reality.

This new BFRO commentary shows an ugly side to the BFRO that only those within and who have left the group have known about for years. While we may agree with the measured caution expressed, it is the continued nature of the BFRO’s tone and personal level of attacks that is disturbing.

This commentary unfortunately demonstrates why others are questioning the BFRO mission and how vinegar can be its true nature. Such seems to be especially the reality after Penn & Teller fooled them with the fake Sonoma videotape. The BFRO rushed to comment on the Penn & Teller hoax claim in a previous “editorial,” declaring that the Penn & Teller statements were false. When it became obvious that, indeed, Penn & Teller had pulled off a hoax, that BFRO commentary was deleted from their site, although it exists as a historical item here and here.

Unfortunately, as has become apparent from how the BFRO issues their paternal and colonial statements to the public on many topics lately, they are hardly in a position any longer to be the authority they feel they are.

Sadly, this most recent “editorial” casts to the world, for all to see, the full nature of the petty and bitter side of organized Bigfootry via the BFRO’s own website.

Here is the item (as of this date):

BFRO Commentary:

This would be a bigger story if just one of the alleged photos were shown during the press conference.

We’re assuming your objectives with this book are worldwide interest, widespread acceptance, and the many splendored things that come along with all that. How could these objectives be hindered by releasing one good photo early on, if you’re already giving a press conference about the book? Why not just show one piece of the material?

It’s definitely not a “best practice” among real scientists (as opposed to non-scientist authors who call themselves cryptozoologists) to be melodramatic about photos without actually showing them.

Public expectations about the unseen photos (assuming they are authentic) are bound to rise quickly beyond the actually clarity of the images.

The photos will inevitably fall short of what people imagined. You need to set expectations appropriately from the beginning.

Best to avoid creating false expectations. If you can’t show the photos yet, then you should avoid making a big deal about them.

The copyright owner has nothing to lose by releasing one image, but has everything to gain, especially if there is more than one image.

One good image will sell the book better than 1,000 news conferences or 5 “pulp cryptozoology” bloggers.

I wonder what it would take for Matt to keep his mouth shut. He's making the BFRO look like the "one man show" that it really is.

I especially love how he's urging the release of a photo when during the Gregg Clay Debacle in Kentucky all the BFRO members were allowed to know was that there was a video obtained and a description of it. Matt, himself was not releasing the video even to his own organization. He finally showed it to his "chosen few" and subsequently, even with his forced signatures of non disclosure documents, word got out it was much ado about nothing at all.

Standard Moneymaker urging others to do what he, himself, will not. I think the BFRO has slipped another ten notches or so into oblivion under a dictator with delusions of grandeur.

I wonder why MM needs to have a photo? It has already been proven that he can't tell a hoax from the 'real thing', what would he do with it?

The first thing he should do is verify that Penn and Teller weren't in Malaysia recently. :new_whistle:

I especially love how he's urging the release of a photo when during the Gregg Clay Debacle in Kentucky all the BFRO members were allowed to know was that there was a video obtained and a description of it. Matt, himself was not releasing the video even to his own organization. He finally showed it to his "chosen few" and subsequently, even with his forced signatures of non disclosure documents, word got out it was much ado about nothing at all.

Since most of the good people have bailed from the bfro, he's got nobody left there to embarass but campers who have paid their way to becoming "investigators."

I wouldn't be surprised to see a report like this coming from the bfro in the near future:

YEAR: 2005

SEASON: Winter

MONTH: November

DATE: 17

STATE: Florida

COUNTY: Hillsborough County

LOCATION DETAILS: Location is near Lettuce Lake Park, North of Rt. 56

NEAREST ROAD: Fletcher Avenue

NEAREST TOWN: Temple Terrace, Florida

OBSERVED: I am reportin a bigfoot I saw crossin the highway at night. Me and my buddy Willy just picked up some beer from 7-11, and was headin back to Dover. This big, hairy creature ran in front of us, and I almost nailed him with my Ford. It stunk so bad, Willy puked up half a can of Bud Lite. I thought he farted or somethin.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: between 8:45 and 9:15 pm

OTHER WITNESSES: just 2 of us in my truck

ENVIRONMENT: The environment is mostly swamp, with a lot of Cypress trees and spanish moss. Bigfoot was seen crossin the road just West of the park entrance.
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Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Timmy Johnson:

My mommy took me to this big, fat guy's house. We sat on his porch and he told me he saw bigfoot. I mostly petted his fluffy cat. The fat guy kept drinking too much beer, so my mom honked the horn and said we had to leave. Dang. He told me I could come back and pet his cat but my mom said no.

P.S. I had fun on Mr. Moneymaker's campout! Thanks for the marshmallows, Matt!
My dad talked to Mr. Moneymaker, who told him if we paid for another trip in cash, he would let me see his bigfoot costume. Cool!
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About BFRO Investigator Timmy Johnson:

Timmy is a cub scout and in the third grade. He attended the 2006 Bimini expedition and will attend the Hawaii expedition if he eats all his vegetables.

How did you folks get Joe, Timmy and John's information out of the FLATS Investigators List? That's secret information.

I'm just wondering why the investigator's name had to be Timmy and he had to be a cub scout. You picking on me or something?

Yeah i know you didn't mean me.

Matt is not the evil, greedy, ego crazed person that these BFF regulars make him out to be. If he was anyone of those things he would be attacking **** like AR on his website that is visited by more that 30,000 people every day. I hope that everyone who has been following these delusional people who have been removed from the BFRO because the truth came out about their true intentions and their ego crazed minds will give the BFRO a chance.
Do your own research before you latch on the the writings of armchair warriors like AR.

No no I was there....
I was there when it was posted here to.
I talked to Matt the same day.
It WAS a hacker, a hacker who, when matt would not take the bait and retaliate in some way at the lies posted here, fabricated the story about AR and then started even more problems.
Would you like to know how I know it was a hacker? I helped secure the site and lock the backdoor the criminal went trough to do it.
Once again you have been lied to. Not by Matt but by the people who run this cesspool.

Even if Matt did interject the letter in the off chance that someone would check the source codes, read enough of it to realize that he was talking about AR, WHY? Anyone who knows her knows the truth and would form their own opinion.

No no I was there....
I was there when it was posted here to.
I talked to Matt the same day.
It WAS a hacker, a hacker who, when matt would not take the bait and retaliate in some way at the lies posted here, fabricated the story about AR and then started even more problems.
Would you like to know how I know it was a hacker? I helped secure the site and lock the backdoor the criminal went trough to do it.
Once again you have been lied to. Not by Matt but by the people who stir this cesspool.

Even if Matt did interject the letter in the off chance that someone would check the source codes, read enough of it to realize that he was talking about AR, WHY? Anyone who knows her knows the truth and would form their own opinion.

...when matt would not take the bait and retaliate in some way...

If it was a hacker, they sure had a lot of insider information.

The only thing more pathetic than Mr. Moneymaker's behavior is watching someone else try to justify it.

I completely agree :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:

Narcissists are aided, abetted and facilitated by four types of people and institutions: the adulators, the blissfully ignorant, the self-deceiving and those deceived by the narcissist.

The adulators are fully aware of the nefarious and damaging aspects of the narcissist's behaviour but believe that they are more than balanced by the benefits - to themselves, to their collective, or to society at large. They engage in an explicit trade-off between some of their principles and values - and their personal profit, or the greater good.

They seek to help the narcissist, promote his agenda, shield him from harm, connect him with like-minded people, do his chores for him and, in general, create the conditions and the environment for his success. This kind of alliance is especially prevalent in political parties, the government, multinational, religious organizations and other hierarchical collectives.

The blissfully ignorant are simply unaware of the "bad sides" of the narcissist- and make sure they remain so. They look the other way, or pretend that the narcissist's behavior is normative, or turn a blind eye to his egregious misbehaviour. They are classic deniers of reality. Some of them maintain a generally rosy outlook premised on the inbred benevolence of Mankind. Others simply cannot tolerate dissonance and discord. They prefer to live in a fantastic world where everything is harmonious and smooth and evil is banished. They react with rage to any information to the contrary and block it out instantly. This type of denial is well evidenced in dysfunctional families.

The self-deceivers are fully aware of the narcissist's transgressions and malice, his indifference, exploitativeness, lack of empathy, and rampant grandiosity - but they prefer to displace the causes, or the effects of such misconduct. They attribute it to externalities ("a rough patch"), or judge it to be temporary. They even go as far as accusing the victim for the narcissist's lapses, or for defending themselves ("She provoked him").

In a feat of cognitive dissonance, they deny any connection between the acts of the narcissist and their consequences ("His wife abandoned him because she was promiscuous, not because of anything he did to her"). They are swayed by the narcissist's undeniable charm, intelligence, or attractiveness. But the narcissist needs not invest resources in converting them to his cause - he does not deceive them. They are self-propelled into the abyss that is narcissism. The inverted narcissists, for instance, is a self-deceiver.

The deceived are people - or institutions, or collectives - deliberately taken for a premeditated ride by the narcissist. He feeds them false information, manipulates their judgement, proffers plausible scenarios to account for his indiscretions, soils the opposition, charms them, appeals to their reason, or to their emotions, and promises the Moon.

Again, the narcissist's incontrovertible powers of persuasion and his impressive personality play a part in this predatory ritual. The deceived are especially hard to deprogram. They are often themselves encumbered with narcissistic traits and find it impossible to admit a mistake, or to atone.

They are likely to stay on with the narcissist to his - and their - bitter end.

Regrettably, the narcissist rarely pays the price for his offenses. His victims pick up the tab. But even here the malignant optimism of the abused never ceases to amaze.

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ARsquatch Yesterday, 07:02 AM Post #3


Folks...

Matt is not the evil, greedy, ego crazed person that these BFF regulars make him out to be. If he was anyone of those things he would be attacking idiots like AR on his website that is visited by more that 30,000 people every day. I hope that everyone who has been following these delusional people who have been removed from the BFRO because the truth came out about their true intentions and their ego crazed minds will give the BFRO a chance.
Do your own research before you latch on the the writings of armchair warriors like AR.

One more thing-

Why are you mocking the reports that are compiled by real researchers?

Do you have some that are done better that you would like to share?

Do you have a database with thousands of them for people to look at, study, and form their own opinions of bigfoot from?

I may be going out on a limb here but I think the answer is...NO

when you do have a better reporting system: then you can mock us.

There is two sides of every story, people need to hear both.