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watch1
I have posted around on several of the forums about what I thought would be the size of the limb/stick it would take to make the sound of the knocking we have heard. I just got this report from the Arkansas Researchers and check these 2 out. The size of the stick described is real close to what we here in South Alabama have said it would take to make the sounds we have heard.
The reports are interesting even without the stick size.

Check them out in the "RFP Research Reports from other areas"section.

Link to the website is below.

Mike (watch1)
JayleeD
Just so us Arkansans don't have to 'hunt' for the reports too hard:

http://users.isp.com//bigfoot/reports/RFPreportother.htm



Edit - OK, wait just a dadgum minute. So what you have, you have taken from other websites? huh.gif
watch1
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Mar 28 2006, 11:32 PM) *
Just so us Arkansans don't have to 'hunt' for the reports too hard:

http://users.isp.com//bigfoot/reports/RFPreportother.htm
Edit - OK, wait just a dadgum minute. So what you have, you have taken from other websites? huh.gif

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I have reports that are posted only on my website and links to the reports that are posted on other websites that cover the area on interest. The other reports are from other members of the RFP Research groups that are outside of my area of research. I posted the reports because I was asked to post them by the investigator himself. We have researched together in this area several times and I have learned alot about these creatures from him. He has been studying these creatures for over 30 years and, in my opinon, knows as much, if not more than some of the top researchers in the country.
He wrote most of the other reports that are posted on the other sites that I have links to.

Does it matter that much where the report is posted? I just wanted the reports from the area on my website and I have permission from the other sites to link to them and they have my site linked from their sites. The only exception of this might be the reports on the BFRO. I seen no reason to re-post a report when all I had to do was put up a link.

The reason I did not post a direct link to the report was because if I did you could only read that one report and not see the rest of the site. The report would be real easy to find if one would just follow directions in my first post. Just 2 clicks and you are there.

Mike (watch1)


I will edit the page and put a link "BACK TO HOME PAGE" at bottom and fix that problem.

Mike (watch1)
JayleeD
Ok, I understand Mike. Good looking site. :icon14:
drtimal
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Mar 29 2006, 08:32 AM) *
Ok, I understand Mike. Good looking site. :icon14:



Jaylee I was in South Arkansas last weekend. I would have like to hook up and do some hunting with you. I still can't get anyone to turn on PM or email to other members. It still says I am not allowed to use.Oh well, I took my boys hunting and only saw deer and lots of turkeys. I even tryed the location where I had a sighting ( it is a gravel pit now). Tryed knocking on trees and some calls (only my calls) no knocks or noise noted.
JayleeD
QUOTE(drtimal @ Mar 29 2006, 09:38 PM) *
Jaylee I was in South Arkansas last weekend. I would have like to hook up and do some hunting with you. I still can't get anyone to turn on PM or email to other members. It still says I am not allowed to use.Oh well, I took my boys hunting and only saw deer and lots of turkeys. I even tryed the location where I had a sighting ( it is a gravel pit now). Tryed knocking on trees and some calls (only my calls) no knocks or noise noted.




Hey! Send me a PM the next time ya'll are headed this way.


You need to make a few more posts (5 more) before you can use the PM function. Post up now coz I'd really like to hear from you.
drtimal
QUOTE(JayleeD @ Mar 29 2006, 09:58 PM) *
Hey! Send me a PM the next time ya'll are headed this way.
You need to make a few more posts (5 more) before you can use the PM function. Post up now coz I'd really like to hear from you.


Hey thanks for the information about needing more posts ! Let me know if you have any activity in your area and I will buzz over for the weekend, good to talk to you.
Wardog1078
Where's the BF stick???? Any pictures????
watch1
QUOTE(Wardog1078 @ Apr 4 2006, 01:58 PM) *
Where's the BF stick???? Any pictures????


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Did you read the report?

Witness Profile: Male, now 58, 12 or 13 years old at the time of the incident.

It happened several years ago as you can see.

He immediately noticed that in one hand the creature was clutching a large wooden club that was 3 to 4 feet long and appeared to be 3 or 4 inches in diameter.


No picture was taken at the time.

Mike (watch1)
truth seeker
Guys I'm not surprised about the size of it after if all a large very storng ape is wacking a stick against a tree or log it's going to have to be good size if it's not going to break after acouple of hits.
watch1
We experimented a little about what it takes to make the sound of the knocks we were hearing. It took a green limb/stick/pole (whatever you wish to call it) about 3 inches in diameter and about 3 feet long or better. A good strong hit on the side of a good size tree gave the sound very close to what we have heard.
A dry limb will have a sharp crack to it. A baseball bat will have a ring to it. They are not the same sounds. We have heard differences in the sounds of the trees. A dead hard pine will have a different sound..sort of a hollow sound..and a green tree will have a dull sorta mellow thump to it. We have heard these and other knocks coming from areas that no person was in at the time.
If anyone can tell me what animal can make sounds like these that is native to south Alabama I would welcome your ideas.

Mike (watch1)
Wardog1078
Watch1,

I had a web site called "Desert Apes" and when I was surfing through it, it showed a picture of a stick that was allegedly carried by a BF. This happened in New Mexico.

Now, I can not find the web site. I do not know what happened to it. I guess it was taken off line. Did anyone else, besides me, see the stick. It was big and rounded on one end.
Wardog1078
Watch1,

OK, found that website. I am going to try to upload pictures of the BF stick/club. Let me see if I can do it.

Hope they come out.
Wardog1078
Pics did not come out. Do not know what I am not doing. Instead here is the web site:

www.unifiedworlds.com/desertapes.htm#threerivers

Hope you can see it.
cacadorbisavo
QUOTE(Wardog1078 @ Apr 5 2006, 03:59 PM) *
Pics did not come out. Do not know what I am not doing. Instead here is the web site:

www.unifiedworlds.com/desertapes.htm#threerivers

Hope you can see it.


Just a note about "Bigfoot Sticks". It appears from talking to witnesses in four areas of the country that maybe the sticks are also carried when the animals are foraging around home sites where large agressive dogs are present. In one case in rural WV the owners of two large vicious Rottweilers were ordered by the Sheriff to pen their dogs. They escaped, and went into the adjoining mountains which have a long history of BF residents (near the Ohio River). The dogs' owners went looking for the dogs and found them with their skulls crushed, as if with a big club. Both dogs were piled together. In the Ouachita Mountains of western Arkansas a large vicious dog and his grown male offspring were penned close to an old barn that was used to store sweet-feed for horses. The dog pen was located there to try to stop something that had ripped off a locked door and continued to steal the feed. The old dog raised the devil at night until someone or something bashed in his skull, leaving the younger dog cowering in his dog house, urinating on himself. (That reminds me of the time I was in Mike's area and--------, Oh, never mind.) The owner of the dogs and horses drove to the barn one night sometimes later with a young relative to check on loud noises from the area and they encountered a massive animal that charged them as they stepped out of the truck. The older man told the kid to run and he fired a shotgun at the animal at point blank range. The animal roared and turned away.
An old man in southern Tennessee told me that years ago he found wild hogs and a sow bear that appeared to have had their skulls crushed by a blow from a club.
Clubs may be practical for these creatures for many reasons.
Wardog1078
QUOTE(cacadorbisavo @ Apr 5 2006, 04:01 PM) *
Just a note about "Bigfoot Sticks". It appears from talking to witnesses in four areas of the country that maybe the sticks are also carried when the animals are foraging around home sites where large agressive dogs are present. In one case in rural WV the owners of two large vicious Rottweilers were ordered by the Sheriff to pen their dogs. They escaped, and went into the adjoining mountains which have a long history of BF residents (near the Ohio River). The dogs' owners went looking for the dogs and found them with their skulls crushed, as if with a big club. Both dogs were piled together. In the Ouachita Mountains of western Arkansas a large vicious dog and his grown male offspring were penned close to an old barn that was used to store sweet-feed for horses. The dog pen was located there to try to stop something that had ripped off a locked door and continued to steal the feed. The old dog raised the devil at night until someone or something bashed in his skull, leaving the younger dog cowering in his dog house, urinating on himself. (That reminds me of the time I was in Mike's area and--------, Oh, never mind.) The owner of the dogs and horses drove to the barn one night sometimes later with a young relative to check on loud noises from the area and they encountered a massive animal that charged them as they stepped out of the truck. The older man told the kid to run and he fired a shotgun at the animal at point blank range. The animal roared and turned away.
An old man in southern Tennessee told me that years ago he found wild hogs and a sow bear that appeared to have had their skulls crushed by a blow from a club.
Clubs may be practical for these creatures for many reasons.






This is very interesting. Now, could we call these BF sticks/clubs tools??? Would we consider them defensive tools or communicating tools????????
TKD
One logical question remains... do they walk softly? :couch:

TKD

(Ducking)
watch1
QUOTE(Wardog1078 @ Apr 5 2006, 06:12 PM) *
This is very interesting. Now, could we call these BF sticks/clubs tools??? Would we consider them defensive tools or communicating tools????????


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It has been questioned that "since no one has never seen a Bigfoot doing the knocking.. is it a Bigfoot doing it?"

Now we have a sighting of one carrying a stick/limb/club big enough to use as whatever it wants to use it for. It could be for protection from dogs, killing deer or whatever else it wants to knock in the head. It could also be used in the knocking to communicate or let other BFs know its' location.
I see this report as giving a little more info into this question. They do carry something that can make the knocking sound ALOT of researchers have heard.

Mike (watch1)
PEPPERSFARMS
FYI this sight has a report and a video of a wild Gorilla using a stick to cross a river. The Gorilla is testing the depth of the water with the stick.

OOPS for got the link!

Tool usage by Gorilla
Wardog1078
Was there not a post or a BFRO report regarding a birdwatcher in the forest that spotted an alleged BF banging on a tree. A racoon dropped from the tree and the BF started to eat it.

After some time the BF went away and the bird watcher walked to the tree and found some fur. I can not remember if it was a report on the BFRO or a post on this forum.

Does anyone recall reading this report or post?? I think it happened in the NE. If anyone has a link to this report, please provide it.

Buttom line is that the BF was observed by the bird watcher, via binoculars, using a stick/club to bring the racoon down from the tree.
Dillrod
I read it a couple of weeks ago, but I don't remember where. He said BF was beating two trees with ithe stick/club. I guess the racoon must have been moving through the limbs back and forth between the trees until it fell.
A green limb should be stronger and not shatter as easy as a dry one. But how does it make the club? I think it would have to be shortened in some way. Breaking it would make it jagged probably not a clean break.
watch1
If anyone finds this report..please post a link to the sight. Any other info or report of Bigfoot carrying a limb/club please post a link.

Thanks for the info about the Bigfoot club. I wish the pictures would have shown more of the club. I really could not tell how long it really was or how the other end looked.

Thanks!

Mike (watch1)
Saskwatcher
Inconclusive Theory, but still POSSIBLE.

I guess anything's possible....

:new_weirdsmiley:
Dillrod
I found it, Not in the same place, looks like its posted here somewhere already.

http://www.bigfootforums.com/lofiversion/i...php/t12069.html
watch1
Thanks for the link to the post. That is a very interesting read.

Seems like BF carries a GP-Large (General Purpose - Large) stick/limb/club - knocking pole -whatever, to knock on whatever it so desires.

Seems like I ran across a pic of some limbs that had been stacked in a fork of a tree somewhere..any one else remember that one?

Mike (watch1)
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