Squatchetery of State
Feb 14 2006, 12:09 PM
There are researcher's that think there 100 unreported sightings for every one reported. That was before the internet so I guess 10 to 1.
I've read or heard about at least 7 different habitations of our "Big Friend's" and AT LEAST 30 different sightings that our "Big Buddy's" keep going back to on a regular basis. In fact I'm researching one right now.
So can I not multiply 7 habitations by 10. That is almost one and a half habitation's for every state. Then I can do the "AT LEAST" 30, times 10 for the one's that have multiple encounters. That is alot of "Big Boy's" that are feeling pretty comfortable with the same human contact for some reason or another
I just taking a shot in the dark but if these stat's are right then this would mean there is probaly a habitation going on near all of us. What do you think? If true how can we get these people to come to us?
I know, it does sound crazy but you never know.
darkwinglh
Feb 14 2006, 01:15 PM
My group strongly believes there are three different habitations for Bigfoot in our area within a radius of 30 miles. These habitats are in no hunting areas and is sparsely populated. This seems to give them an extra feeling of security.
People in my area who have encounters don't report them to outsiders, but when they hear of my group, they come forward because they trust us. I would believe that this is the way it is in a lot of places, if people know you are a local, they tend to be more open and cooperative. IMHO. :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:
Sam Farris
Feb 14 2006, 01:26 PM
At risk of being termed a 'romantic'.....
The concept that there may be more of these creatures than we currently estimate is not something I would find hard to believe.
From what I gather, it seems they habitate widerness areas with flowing water (creeks/rivers). River bottoms are often difficult for humans to traverse, thus excellent for isolation, feeding and for lack of a better term, 'migration'.
I live in the Minneapolis, Minnesota area. If you check the BFRO you will find encounter reports along the Saint Croix River that borders Minnesota and Wisconsin, that are only an hour or so out of the metropolitan area!
Sam
Judaculla
Feb 14 2006, 01:34 PM
I believe the original poster meant habituation, not habitation (Is that a word? I thought it was just habitat...)
As far as BF habituation, one should have their BS detection meter set on maximum when dealing with such claims. Maybe it has happened... but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
Pun intended. :wink:
Judaculla
Feb 14 2006, 01:50 PM
Turns out habitation is a word, but it doesn't exactly mean habitat.
QUOTE
Main Entry: hab•i•ta•tion
Pronunciation: "ha-b&-'tA-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English habitacioun, from Middle French habitation, from Latin habitation-, habitatio, from habitare to inhabit, frequentative of habEre
1 : the act of inhabiting : OCCUPANCY
2 : a dwelling place : RESIDENCE
3 : SETTLEMENT, COLONY
QUOTE
Main Entry: hab·i·tat
Pronunciation: 'ha-b&-"tat
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, it inhabits, from habitare
1 a : the place or environment where a plant or animal naturally or normally lives and grows b : the typical place of residence of a person or a group c : a housing for a controlled physical environment in which people can live under surrounding inhospitable conditions (as under the sea)
2 : the place where something is commonly found
In case folks don't know what habituation is...
QUOTE
Main Entry: ha•bit•u•a•tion
Pronunciation: -"bi-ch&-'wA-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the process of habituating : the state of being habituated
2 a : tolerance to the effects of a drug acquired through continued use b : psychological dependence on a drug after a period of use -- compare ADDICTION
3 : decrease in responsiveness upon repeated exposure to a stimulus
Blackdog
Feb 14 2006, 05:21 PM
QUOTE(Squatchetery of State @ Feb 14 2006, 12:09 PM)

There are researcher's that think there 100 unreported sightings for every one reported. That was before the internet so I guess 10 to 1.
I've read or heard about at least 7 different habitations of our "Big Friend's" and AT LEAST 30 different sightings that our "Big Buddy's" keep going back to on a regular basis. In fact I'm researching one right now.
So can I not multiply 7 habitations by 10. That is almost one and a half habitation's for every state. Then I can do the "AT LEAST" 30, times 10 for the one's that have multiple encounters. That is alot of "Big Boy's" that are feeling pretty comfortable with the same human contact for some reason or another
I just taking a shot in the dark but if these stat's are right then this would mean there is probaly a habitation going on near all of us. What do you think? If true how can we get these people to come to us?
I know, it does sound crazy but you never know.
And yet not one clear picture, video or research paper. I'd be carefull what you believe there are a lot of Bullshitters out there...maybe closer than you think. :new_whistle:
Susan
Feb 14 2006, 05:29 PM
QUOTE(Judaculla @ Feb 14 2006, 11:34 AM)

I believe the original poster meant habituation, not habitation (Is that a word? I thought it was just habitat...)
As far as BF habituation, one should have their BS detection meter set on maximum when dealing with such claims. Maybe it has happened... but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
Pun intended. :wink:
Yeah, but would you bet the Poop Barn? :wink:
Volsquatch
Feb 14 2006, 05:53 PM
QUOTE(Blackdog @ Feb 15 2006, 05:21 AM)

And yet not one clear picture, video or research paper. I'd be carefull what you believe there are a lot of Bullshitters out there...maybe closer than you think. :new_whistle:
Agreed...
QUOTE(Susan @ Feb 15 2006, 05:29 AM)

Yeah, but would you bet the Poop Barn? :wink:
.....or how about the "pet seeing-eye hawk"?
QUOTE(Judaculla @ Feb 15 2006, 01:34 AM)

I believe the original poster meant habituation, not habitation (Is that a word? I thought it was just habitat...)
As far as BF habituation, one should have their BS detection meter set on maximum when dealing with such claims. Maybe it has happened... but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
Pun intended. :wink:
Wise words indeed.
nighthunter
Feb 14 2006, 05:57 PM
chronic
Feb 14 2006, 06:09 PM
QUOTE(Judaculla @ Feb 14 2006, 01:34 PM)

I believe the original poster meant habituation, not habitation (Is that a word? I thought it was just habitat...)
As far as BF habituation, one should have their BS detection meter set on maximum when dealing with such claims. Maybe it has happened... but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
Pun intended. :wink:
Gorillas, chimpanzees and orang's (while they live in the wild) have been habituated to the presense of humans. That's the only way to learn about sasquatch's complex nature, so it's gonna have to happen eventually, (that is, if we want to know more than just the anatomy of dermal ridges

)
Volsquatch
Feb 14 2006, 06:15 PM
QUOTE(chronic @ Feb 15 2006, 06:09 AM)

Gorillas, chimpanzees and orang's (while they live in the wild) have been habituated to the presense of humans. That's the only way to learn about sasquatch's complex nature, so it's gonna have to happen eventually, (that is, if we want to know more than just the anatomy of dermal ridges

)
Gonna have to happen eventually?
But....but..........but Chronic! According to you, it's already happened!
QUOTE(chronic @ Nov 30 2004, 01:11 AM)

successful habituation projects: 2
(although Zana was enslaved rather than habituated in the beginning)
chronic
Feb 15 2006, 10:51 AM
QUOTE(Volsquatch @ Feb 14 2006, 06:15 PM)

Gonna have to happen eventually?
But....but..........but Chronic! According to you, it's already happened!
Yep, but that situation is over and was sort of a wasted experience. I meant "it's gonna have to happen if anyone wants to learn anything interesting about sasquatch."
Sam Farris
Feb 15 2006, 01:55 PM
QUOTE(Judaculla @ Feb 14 2006, 01:34 PM)

...I believe the original poster meant habituation, not habitation
Well now,... that's a 'squatch of a different color.
Is it probable? I would venture to say 'remotely'. Is it widespread? I would say 'not likely'.
How will I sign off this post? Most likely as 'Sam'.
Sam :new_thumbsupsmileyanim:
Bitter Monk
Feb 15 2006, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(chronic @ Feb 14 2006, 07:09 PM)

Gorillas, chimpanzees and orang's (while they live in the wild) have been habituated to the presense of humans. That's the only way to learn about sasquatch's complex nature, so it's gonna have to happen eventually, (that is, if we want to know more than just the anatomy of dermal ridges

)
The estimated habituation time for bonobos, chimpanzees, and lowland gorillas that have not been hunted or provisioned is estimated at two to five years of consistant effort. The hypothetical "sasquatch as higher primate" would present the worst of all possible situations in terms of attempted habituation. Simply put, it would be a tough row to hoe.
chronic
Feb 15 2006, 04:43 PM
QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ Feb 15 2006, 04:10 PM)

The estimated habituation time for bonobos, chimpanzees, and lowland gorillas that have not been hunted or provisioned is estimated at two to five years of consistant effort. The hypothetical "sasquatch as higher primate" would present the worst of all possible situations in terms of attempted habituation. Simply put, it would be a tough row to hoe.
Yep, a tough row to hoe, but the resulting crop would feed our curiosity 100 fold.
Huntster
Feb 15 2006, 05:29 PM
QUOTE(Bitter Monk @ Feb 15 2006, 04:10 PM)

The estimated habituation time for bonobos, chimpanzees, and lowland gorillas that have not been hunted or provisioned is estimated at two to five years of consistant effort. The hypothetical "sasquatch as higher primate" would present the worst of all possible situations in terms of attempted habituation. Simply put, it would be a tough row to hoe.
Recently I've been struck with a thought regarding the Skookum Cast:
If the cast is truly that of a sasquatch that laid down to reach the fruit in the mud, it demonstrates a thought process that exceeds that of any other creature I know of.
I even wonder if the squatch watched the people toss the fruit into the mudhole from a distance.
It would help explain how these creatures are so difficult to "nail down".
Such a creature may not tolerate co-habitation at all.
chronic
Feb 15 2006, 06:13 PM
QUOTE(Huntster @ Feb 15 2006, 05:29 PM)

Such a creature may not tolerate co-habitation at all.
I agree completely.
I think it'll take contact with a young one, who doesn't have the 'learned' instinct to avoid humans, to accomplish a such a project.
Bring m back a live Huck!
Feb 15 2006, 08:46 PM
I think it'll take contact with a young one, who doesn't have the 'learned' instinct to avoid humans, to accomplish a such a project.
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That is an interesting response Chronic, because I do believe that we have all read about somebody who has already had that experence, and we all have rejected that encounter. :new_whistle:
Squatchetery of State
Feb 16 2006, 06:17 AM
If the "Big Boys' look into windows, go through the trash, steal food, raid the garden... does this not show that they feel some what comfortable around the other bipedal species?
If they are as smart as some of us think and have thier own personalitys then wouldnt at least a few feel some what comfortable with a family they have been watching and want to make some kind of contact? Like a slap on a wall or a yell in the back yard or standing in the garden for all to see, these all are encounters that have happen more then once as most of you know. To me these are signs of wanting some kind of human contact.
I could be completly wrong and be giving the "Big Ones" to much credit. Maybe Im just wanting it to be true, Huh?
jimf
Feb 16 2006, 06:30 AM
QUOTE(Squatchetery of State @ Feb 16 2006, 07:17 AM)

If the "Big Boys' look into windows, go through the trash, steal food, raid the garden... does this not show that they feel some what comfortable around the other bipedal species?
You forgot the most important part of your post:
"If" . And you're anthrompomorphosizing badly.
QUOTE
If they are as smart as some of us think and have thier own personalitys then wouldnt at least a few feel some what comfortable with a family they have been watching and want to make some kind of contact? Like a slap on a wall or a yell in the back yard or standing in the garden for all to see, these all are encounters that have happen more then once as most of you know. To me these are signs of wanting some kind of human contact.
I could be completly wrong and be giving the "Big Ones" to much credit. Maybe Im just wanting it to be true, Huh?
None of that means that a bigfoot is smarter than any other animal or even primate just that
if he exists at all, we're to dumb to find him.
Huntster
Feb 16 2006, 10:49 AM
QUOTE(jimf @ Feb 16 2006, 06:30 AM)

....None of that means that a bigfoot is smarter than any other animal or even primate just that if he exists at all, we're to dumb to find him.
I don't think we're too dumb to find them.
I think we're too busy struggling amongst ourselves to get it done.
(By "ourselves" I mean all of humanity, including science, the media, government, the general public, as well as the sasquatch research community).
jimf
Feb 16 2006, 10:57 AM
QUOTE(Huntster @ Feb 16 2006, 11:49 AM)

I don't think we're too dumb to find them.
I think we're too busy struggling amongst ourselves to get it done.
(By "ourselves" I mean all of humanity, including science, the media, government, the general public, as well as the sasquatch research community).
Granted, I was being facetious. ( Yeah , I know what are the odds? :laugh: ) The thing is overall humanity has far more pressing concerns than proving the existence or non existence of large bipedal primate where it's not supposed to be. Diseases, war ,crime ,poverty.. whatever. As much as we (generally speaking) may wish or want otherwise, there are far more important things ( the the world at large) to spend the money and research efforts on that this.
Huntster
Feb 16 2006, 11:42 AM
QUOTE(jimf @ Feb 16 2006, 10:57 AM)

...The thing is overall humanity has far more pressing concerns than proving the existence or non existence of large bipedal primate where it's not supposed to be. Diseases, war ,crime ,poverty.. whatever. As much as we (generally speaking) may wish or want otherwise, there are far more important things ( the the world at large) to spend the money and research efforts on that this....
I strongly agree with that.
Yet, it's amazing how much interest and investment is put into the natural sciences with regard to evolutionary discovery, environmentalism, evolutionary/religious struggle, and even inter-religious struggle which the discovery of an uncataloged, bipedal primate would impact.
A full investigation into this phenomenon shouldn't consume as much monetary investment as many think, and it might certainly pay returns (just in knowledge) which would be a major impact on science.
Sam Farris
Feb 16 2006, 05:11 PM
QUOTE(jimf @ Feb 16 2006, 10:57 AM)

...there are far more important things ( the the world at large) to spend the money and research efforts on that this.
Yup,...look at what Canada is researching.
http://www.gov.mb.ca/agriculture/research/...jects/hemp.htmlSam :drug:
jimf
Feb 16 2006, 05:13 PM
:laugh: Still probably more important to more people that sasquatch.
Blackdog
Feb 16 2006, 05:23 PM
Somewhere Chronic is doing a happy dance. :eek3dance:
Huntster
Feb 16 2006, 07:57 PM
That's nearly a half million bucks.
And I'll bet all that research has already been done here in the states over the past 50 years.
All that money...........
Up in smoke.
chronic
Feb 20 2006, 02:18 PM
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