Hi,i wanted to see how many independent researcher/investigators are here and where you are at.I wanted to see if there was a way to put a database together,or a list,so that we could contact each other,and maybe find fellow researchers in our areas to meet up with.I am in south central NJ,and am starting research/investigations in my area,including the pine barrens which has been the home to many reported encounters over the years.I am planning to get a web site up soon.I am interested in meeting up with others in my area for research.Anybody else here that wants to post something similar to let others know you're here,feel free to.Thanks

not many here i guess???

Try these on for size:

Sasquatch Research Initiative (SRI)

Alliance of Independent Bigfoot Researchers (AIBR)

These two associations are all about independent researchers, and can help you get started in your own search for the Big Guy.


Thigmo

We are way up in British Columbia's Fraser Valley.

West Coast Sasquatch Research

http://www.westcoast-sasquatch.com/

Home of the "Sasquatch."


Bushman

You beat me to those links Thigmo... can't go wrong contacting either one.

checked out these 2 sites,didnt see a place to really place your info. so that others can see,sort of like a directory

What "kind" of info are you wanting to 'place'?

Well Bigfootmorf, they're not really places to list yourself as an independent researcher (though that's an interesting idea!). I'm one of the SRI folks, so I can tell you that being a new group, SRI is still growing the content on its site. But among the resources you'll find are investigation techniques and more on how to go about doing the research. I haven't had a chance to really dive into AIBR's site yet (sorry guys!), but I'm sure you'll find great stuff there too.

Thigmo

All of us who are members of AIBR used our real names and our locations when we started up the alliance. The member profile itself acts as a directory of sorts as long as people use their real names and locations.

This isn't likely to sound very nice,but here goes.

There are alot of problems associated with just making a 'group" or any form of collaborative effort in anything bigfoot related, and though some will scream at the top of thier lungs that its due to the ' politics' involved, in actuality it has more to do with honesty and that oft derisive word among many," credibility and along with that credibility, simply 'ability'. Someone not long ago pointed out BFF as being a micro cosm of a much larger society in our day to day live and it applies here as well.

When going by what some would condider " farming out" reports or any other witness information, or even information about investigators themselves it opens a much larger issue of trust ,and there are many individuals who have romantic tendencies and frankly ,lack the ability to look at anything with any form of skepticism, and that is not the person you want investigatingg reports for your org or group. If that were the case everything from that point on could be called into question. All it takes is one individuals actions to taint the whole crop so to speak.

The internet also offers potential investigators or researchers the opportunity to mis-represent both thier intent and thier ability level in regards to what they get out of bigfoot research and expect out of others. Just the same as real life.

The other thing that some seem to forget is the amount of individual effort and the overall group effort it takes on the part of many to make anything such as AIBR or SRI work with in the confines of a true form of democracy that benefits all involved and not just a chosen few. taking that into consideration, you have not only your duty to the witnesses whose reports you are allowed to represent , but also your reponsiblity to each and every member who chose to be a part of that endeavor. We all ,by now should have been able to see how a dictatorship does not work, if someone didn't see that ,then diregard this post now and move on to read something else.

A democratic form of bigfoot org takes more work and effort than any dictatorship ever will, from the website design , to articles written,research presented, votes, requirments, guidlines,proposals and just plain making the time to voice your opinion and vote on an issue thats presented, all the while keeping your ego in check for the better of that same whole and not the one of the few.

In some cases you are going to have to take risks with who you bring in and it sounds very discriminatory in a way,but sadly ,it has to be that way. Not everyone is worthy of the trust of a witness or thier pers and thats been proven time and again. On the forum alone I can think of several dozen indivduals in the last 4 years that i have disagreed with on a regualar basis, but still found respect for them because of thier abilites and knowledge. those are the people you want with you, not sychophants, not romantics, and defiantly those who lack the ability to ' investigate the contents of a paper sack' as a friend of mine said. Or those who contribute nothing to help along the effort that others have put into this, sometimes its a small thing and sometimes its on a much larger scale.

You have to be willing to learn everyday in this and take the effort upon yourself to imrpove in any small way you can or you've already failed.


and damn I hope that makes sense.

*edited for my brain going faster than my fingers*

Well said JimF,
I do my own research here in Southern Washington and come to this site and others to shoot the breeze and get information that might be helpful. But as an independent researcher, it is hard to find any organization that isn't tainted by individuals who are strictly interested in their own agenda, meaning stealing info for their own gain. I'm very liberal with my research results as I feel that it can only help the overall effort in solving the squatch mystery, but as I become more familiar with the bigfoot community, I'm becoming less inclined to share information except to a few trusted individuals. Not my plan, just the way the BF community has led me.
Democracy? Where?
klp ;-)

Here are two more Bigfoot associations

NESRA

Sasquatch Watch

klparnell,your post started off promisings,but....its sad to say their is politics and favoritism,in the bigfoot community,instead of people working together for a common goal

It sometimes seems that this is true. I also believe that info is not shared for other reasons.

I have posted on my site recordings that have been made fun of by some on this very forum. I know what I have heard and still believe these to be recordings of a Bigfoot talking. I also no others have heard simular things and have not posted about it because the idea of a Bigfoot talking has for some reason been more than some can except.
I am not in this research for the money. If I was..I am running in the red..LOL. There is a creature out there that I want to learn more about. If it takes being made fun of by some to gain knowledge from others that have heard and seen some of the same things..then it is worth it.

Until other researchers open up and not be scared about what the others think it will continue to be a closed mouth research project where info is not openly shared.

I hope this will change in the future.

I am keeping my research confined to 2 counties in south Alabama, although I have reports posted from other areas of interest of the RFP. This is all that I have time for and believe me, I haven't even scratched the surface of this area. I could go out every night the rest of my life and still not cover all the possible areas that could produce information.


Mike (watch1) South Alabama Bigfoot Research

I'm based in Monmouth County and have done a lot of field work throughout New Jersey from the Pine Barrens to Sussex County. Shoot me an email.

All animals communicate. Cats have 28 calls, as I recall. Whales transmit millions of bits of information, including weather reports, in their song. I have no problem with an unidentified hominid having a sophisticated means of communication as long as it's not Cherokee. Chimpanzees mostly gesture (language may have arisen from that) and they do it in dialect.

Have you had your recording analysed? An analysis might not show what it is, but it could show what it isn't.

i hope to be getting a web site soon,and if i do,any and all info. i have will be posted for others to share and use for assistance.I will link to other likewise sites.

cryptojoe,ill shoot you an email today or tomorrow,interested in talking to you

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No I have not. I would be glad to have them done but have no idea who could do this. What could they tell me about the recordings. How much would it cost?

Most were recorded on a digital voice recorder. I played them back and copied the files on my computer using sony sound forge. I have tried running filters on the sounds and still hear the same things. The recordings on my website are cuts from these recordings but have not had any filters run on them.

Most of the recordings started out as about 3 hr. recordings. After carefully listening to these I cut out the sounds of interest and saved those. I do have one tape that I used before I went digital. It has alot of movement (sticks breaking..sounds of footsteps in leaves and a muffled deep voiced whisper of something I can not understand).

I think I can rule out just about every (KNOWN) animal after listening to the "Alabama Talk" recording. There are alot of things going on in this recording that you can not hear just by playing it on your PC speakers.
Download the file..play it on a program that shows you the sound wave and with a good set of headphones you will see patterns of the knocking and the other sounds. This is true of the other recordings also.

After listening to the knocks and the reply knocks there is intellience there. The timing of the knocks and the timing of the replies has a timed pattern. It is not randomly done. There is always a pause..a wait for the reply..whatever you wish to call it.

Mike (watch1)

Call Alabama Fish & Game and ask them who could analyze your recordings.If there're not very helpful call
Auburn University (War Eagle!!!)or that other school to see what they recommend.No idea what this would cost though.

Can you cite the source of your whales communicating weather reports please?

I can,Al Roker and Willard Scott