Well, those old tracks are probably gone by now...but there may be new ones about. Maybe you can gain access to the area once the water recedes. If there is something out there, you may well find fresh tracks in the mud. Above all, think safety first! Don't endanger your safety by venturing into hazardous territory until safe to do so.

That's your unsolicited safety message for the day...

RB gets the 'BFF Safety Scout' medal of honor!

Seems there is a Bigfoot Professor named Dr Meldrum.
I contacted him some time back, and he said that
the photo does not show an orangutan.

From a skeptic's viewspoint, I have to wonder why
anyone is still concerned with two still photos taken
God knows where, by God knows whom....

There is no proof these pics were even taken in Myakka...
just an unsigned note.

Where is skeptical judgment?

Why, like the faked Minnesota Iceman, does this go on and
on....forever?

Ziggy

Thanks chief! - *sniff* - This is the happiest day of my ...wait!...no!....come back with that!....ya'll are never gonna believe this, but, this Bigfoot just materialized from thin air, snatched my new medal and loped off laughing maniacally...bloody shape-shifting SOBs....

What is this? The Minnesota Iceman was a fake? Says who?

I think there is a healthy dose of skepticism in this forum. Photos such as the Myakka photos are fodder for healthy discussions regarding all sorts of aspects of reported crypto-creature sightings....Who?...What?....Where?...Why?...When?... To simply dismiss such photos without much discussion may be doing a dis-service to ourselves. While the Myakka photos may or may not be genuine...the fact remains that they "are". The truth about those photos may never be known, but when we have the opportunity to discuss the all the nuances surrounding a sighting, we should be certain to identify our target before we fire upon it. Experience tells me that anyway...

RB drops a nickel on the counter and picks up 3 pennies change...

What did Meldrum say it showed?

Meldrum is one smart cookie, no doubt about that. However, I saw him say on a History Channel presentation that he felt the "Snow walker" footage showed a real bigfoot. The common opinion now is that it is patently fake. So, even Meldrum can be wrong it seems. Nothing wrong with that, mind you. It's a human trait. :wink:

Even Krantz was fooled. Could happen to any researcher and is probably a given to those who do it long enough, considering some in the field.

I was told the "Snow Walker" footage was a hoax perpetrated by a film company and they openly admitted to faking it??

That's the same story I heard, Arkansan. Apparently, this show was done prior to them admitting the hoax. I sure couldn't picture Meldrum saying what he did otherwise.

They Actually Traced the Photos as far back as to the Eckerd drug store where they were developed.which is on Bee Ridge rd. in Sarasota.I've even spent time on and off myself trying to trace them back further with no luck.I do think that I have a good idea of the general area they were taken if not the exact location.since there is a limited distance as to where Myakka comes into the more populated areas.It seema at least to me that if you were going to turn in (well Done) fake photos ,you would have enough smarts about you to also have a means of not tracing them back to anywhere let alone to where htey were developed.I would and I'm 99.9% positive anyone else here would also.as to what it is in the photos ????I think the subject is a very real animal,though as to what i cannot say.based on some of the stuff I've researched and folks I've talked to about animal releases I'm split 50/50 as to wether or not its a Bf.And Thanks Rb,I try to be as safe as I can but unfortunately most of the time my adrenaline overrides my head out in the swamps.most likely scenario I'll get bitten by a rattler again (hey new thread for the In the Field Antivenin !!)

Again? You mean there was a first time and you didn't hobble right out and buy a pair of Kevlar boots? I once transported a guy that had been struck by lightening for the second time in his life! When I asked him why he wasn't more careful after being hit by lightening once before, he replied....well, I'll bet you can guess the rest!

Lightning never strikes twice???

Yeah Arky, how did you know???

It was on the Arm RB, the boots wouldn't fit. It was a long time ago anyway.Teenage years,when I did some really dumb things.Dumber than now at least .I always wear long boots and jeans now no matter how hot it is just in case,when I'm out in the field.

OK, just checking...I'm trying to earn a safety merit badge so I can get my "First Class Scout" pin!

You're just doing your best to make me fall off of this chair aren't you lmao

*BUMP* for DDA -- here's a link to the pictures.

http://www.lorencoleman.com/myakka.html

This topic again ? A while back myself and someone else both explained this for what it was. It is a fake made for a show on sci-fi channel years ago. They had a web cam behind a sea food restaurant that anyone could watch online. The whole deal was done for this show and trying to fake a Bigfoot report. They even a few months after the pictures came out told the whole story and what it was for.

I used to like to watch the cam as you could see things on it. I seen deer, Raccoons, Possum, And even a person one time lol.

But it is a guy in a costume and even the people who made the whole thing admitted it years ago.

This is one of my problems with the Bigfoot community. They take things like this that are a known faked and keep them alive as a maybe. Even the name of it has been changed from when it first came out I believe. I am not going to in what ones (Pictures and films) that I think are real and fake. However when ones is proven fake it needs to die and never be said again that it could be real. What I really find funny is when someone said it was a orangutan or other things.

This is nothing against anyone who is reading this. But please join me in getting the old fake stuff like this to DIE. It is still talked about some times on this and other forums as a real animal. Even the people who done it explained it years ago and it should have died Right then and there. But here it is years later and people are still pointing to it.

It sure looks like an orangutan but for one thing, Jimf mentioned it, the eye shine. That is a very obvious feature on the photograph which is not consistent with an orangutan. I remember reading Ivan Sanderson's theories of separate species, one in the southeast, one in the northwest over 30 years ago and he lamented how difficult it was to accept not one but two species of giant hairy hominoid in our own back yard. I guess I lean toward the escaped Orang theory but those shiny eyes really leave me with huge doubts, Hoax? Orang? Orang Pendek? or Skunk Ape? Only the Ape knows for sure.

Yes, we all KNOW what it's all about. Do you see where I bumped it FOR someone? Did you notice that I did not comment, ponder, or ask further questions about it? I bumped it as a favor to someone else who couldn't find the thread. Sorry if that's so offensive, but get a grip.

micahn --

The Myakka photos are a fake? Is there a link to an article about this?

Seriously, the Myakka photo, along with the Skookum cast, and finally the airing of LMS re-ignited my interest in the subject. I'd be terribly dissapointed to find out that one of those was a fake.

That being said...it sure looks like an upright, brown-haired, nocturnal Orang to me.

Uh, wait; do those even exist?

Take care!

Avindair

P.S. Got my DVD of LMS last night. My wife and I watched it, and the PGF. Review to follow.

Micahn, this is the first I have heard that claim also.
PLEASE post a link or further info for us unwashed heathens
FWIW...I have always been of the opinion it was an orang..either real(and ferel or released) or a cardboard cut out.
Would like to see the admited hoax information....if for no other reason, to see if THIS "admited hoax" claim has any more proof provided than the "other" one presently occupying so much of our time.

I'll admit when these photos first came out I was very excited. However, once the initial buzz wore off some things became very apparent....


Anyone can purchase contacts that will produce eyeshine. This very forum has posted up incredibly detailed masks that could easily pass as life-like at a short distance. Numerous other sites/forums have covered the anatomical "problems" with the photo, and as one of your own has pointed out there is evidence the entire thing was a publicity stunt. Add to that the fact that the photographer is unknown and there is noone who can back up the story, and you begin to have a very thread bare defense that this is anything but a hoax. Not to mention the fact that 98.7% of all skunk ape sightings do not match the physical description of the subject and that there has never been a report of a grey oragutan and you begin to wonder why anyone is even discussing this anymore outside the realm of failed hoaxes.

To the best of my knowledge, no one has claimed 'responsibility' for the Myakka photos. Dontcha think that'd be pretty big news?

Here is the thread concerning the hoaxed photos that Micahn is referencing:
http://www.bigfootforums.com/index.php?showtopic=4482&st=20. This is not the Myakka photos, but something that was on the Freaky Links website.

I remember that now. I also unfortunately remember how bad that show was.

It has been years so maybe I am thinking of the wrong case and all. But for some reason I still think that those pictures was proved fake years ago.

The "Freaky Links" tv show was originally aired on FOX about 4 years ago for just one season I think it was (FOX, then moved to SCI-fi channel). Used to watch it on Friday nights if I remember correctly and they had a "Tennesse Bigfoot" episode which I thought I had on tape somewhere, but can't seem to find it now.

Where is Fishbone when you need him? The Myakka photo was "presented" on the Florida M.E. show which he was apart of.

Well, IMHO I think these photos are real. If you can provide links to where one can buy contacts that create eyeshine, and incredibly detailed masks, I think that would help. A "suit" that expensive (you can see knuckle and nail detail) would be interesting to find, but I never see them outside of Hollywood sets, and none (other than Harry!) that match it. Goofy gorilla suits yes, but not this.

Also, there are 2 shots, AND a very interesting letter from the purported eyewitness. Now I understand that the "anonymous" nature immediately casts doubt, but I CAN see logic in her reasoning. Not to mention that the letter seems very geniune to me...not that it couldn't be faked, but that, in addition to great suits, this supposed hoaxer is a great fiction writer!

Also, no one knows what Sasquatch looks like (and there may be great variation), so "anatomical problems" and "physical descriptions" are in essence just opinions, and not evidentiary fact. The publicity stunt refers to another incident altogether.

All told, I'd LOVE to see some of these "hoaxers with incredible suits" under the scrutiny of daylight, because, as a certain man from Ohio says, "Show me the monkey!"

tirademan

(ps-I live in Photoshop and think it's very unlikely they were done with that...and to what end?)

Didn't Brian Smith (from the Walla Walla area of washington if memory serves me correctly) find some very interesting evidence that the Myakka "skunk ape" may have been a prop used in a Ripleys Believe it or Not, down in florida?...Could've sworn he had some really convincing pics related to such...

Actually Randy, that was the Ripley's Museum in Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin. Here is a side-by-side comparison shot:

Rave FX and other companies make contacts that will either emit light (ala "glow in the dark") or reflect ambient light. As for the hands, you can buy a very nice latex set from the Nightmare Factory for $24.99 plus shipping that show all the detail that you mention. Masks of equal or greater detail usually start at $54.99 and up.



I wasn't talking about bf anatomy, I was talking about general anatomy. If you look closely at the arm and then compare it to the overall length of the body it appears to be rediculously out of proportion. Not only that, but the hand appears to have no articulation at all, it just hangs limply at the end of the arm.

Gee, that is one loooong arm! From the top of the shoulder to the fingertips:

Volsquatch wrote:


Generally everyone agrees that this myakka skunk ape most resembles an orangatan. Long arms are a standard trait in Orangatans. I don't believe the Myakka Ape photos have been debunked yet. They are still in the inconclusive pile.

Arm length....

EXACTLY.

Teeth???

Those are some chompers... Damn!

ETHERAL???????

MICAH -- sorry about this, I just happened to catch it at 5:45 in the morning after getting 4 hours of bad sleep. I wouldn't have answered you that way if I'd been semi-coherent.

StacyInMI Do not think about it :-) I almost never take offense of anyone for anything :-) I am one of the most easy going people you will meet :-)

But if I do get offended chances are I would end up banned or something. As I also let people know just what I think and feel about things :-)

I have three different shots of that skunk ape and in every single one of them the thing did not budge an inch it stayed in the exact same position for all the shots. "Talk about posing for the camera"

Quatch -

I am glad you posted that picture of Harry Henderson - I am assuming that this was the best that Hollywood had to offer back in 1998 (?). Look at how skinny the legs are compared to Patty, and look at how much shorter/thinner the arms are too. The abdomen/trunk is also alot thinner than Patty's.

With all the Greg Long/Phillip Morris/etc, etc drama going on, I thought that this photo was telling.

The face looks pretty cool though - what I would imagine a BF would look like.

IMO.

C

I have talked about the harry and the Henderson's suite before on these forums. I feel that it is the closest one I ever seen to the patty film and even then it is not a real close match. And like you said it was made in 1998. No way they could make anything near as good way back in 1967 I feel. At least I have never seen one that was even close in any movie or show.

Just cause' I never pass up an opportunity to play with graphics!
While there is a resemblence..there are numerous differences, enought that I don't think this is it. Note, in order for the shoulder angle to match up, I had to change the angle of the Ripleys creature a bit.
The head of the ripleys thing is well above that of the Myakka subject.
I almost think the HH image is closer!
But still...there certainly IS a resemblance here.
IF it's a fake, I wonder if the Ripley diorama had any influence on the creator?

Hey, now that's cool NW!

I've never seen an orang with that much gray. show me a pic of one that gray, and it may be an orang. otherwise, it isn't.

IF it is an orang...I wonder if the color may be an artifact of the flash?
Sometimes night photos with flash will have very strong color discrephencies...
Just a thought

If it's a stuffed "creation" one could probably put whatever type of head they wanted to on their "creation" and then dye the thing any color they wanted to.

And one thing that should be noted in the two photos of the Myakka Monkey Crap, are the palmetto fronds that are across the creature's face. Funny how they went with him from one photo to the next, no?